Member's Pet Peeves

[Jupiter551]

Seems the sense of entitlement by a select few is a growing contagion. Since when has it become the norm for a customer to pay in order to cheer up their service provider, or pay them for doing absolutely nothing (Offline tips)?? I iz baffled.

Well, somebody serving you coffee at a cafe is a far cry from a model you converse with on a regular basis. There plenty of models that i as a perv love to tip just to make them smile or help them out and plenty of members who sometimes do the same for me. The relationship between camgirl and member is often very different from customer and service provider due to the social aspect of the site and the extensive communication. (obviously only applying to a model whose room you frequent)

And actually, I don't think it'd be all that strange for somebody to tip their waitress extra to cheer her up even if they weren't getting anything extra from it.

This is how i feel about chip-ins and wishlists as well. A lot of guys like to buy things for the models they like. That doesn't mean you have to or that we expect it. I'd had never thought to put a wishlist or chip-in on my profile until several members requested that I do. Well shit, if you want to buy me things and give me money I'll let you.

But I am groovy with the general complaints going on here, which is pretty much that both models and members shouldn't expect more than they deserve.

I think he was more referring to a model putting out a newsfeed being grumpy about not getting offline tips.

So that would be like your waitress coming in pissed at you cos she didn't find a $10 note slipped under the door when she opened the cafe.

 

[Bocefish]

Yes, it was indeed concerning a model complaining she did not get any offline tips and she was NOT anywhere near the top 20 competition.

Since we're using waitress comparisons, that would be akin to a waitress coming into work and griping to all her best customers that nobody left her a tip while she was sleeping.

I'm not saying offline tips are bad, just that offline tips should NOT be expected.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

Leaving the waitress you like a $20 tip, when all you ordered was a cup of coffee and you see she's really really busy all over the restaurant, is the same as an offline tip.

You just do it now and then to make her day a little more bearable.

 

[ScarletRaven]

Leaving the waitress you like a $20 tip, when all you ordered was a cup of coffee and you see she's really really busy all over the restaurant, is the same as an offline tip.

You just do it now and then to make her day a little more bearable.

Well said, that is such a great way to put it :-D

 

[Bocefish]

Leaving the waitress you like a $20 tip, when all you ordered was a cup of coffee and you see she's really really busy all over the restaurant, is the same as an offline tip.

You just do it now and then to make her day a little more bearable.

Well said, that is such a great way to put it :-D

That is not the same as an offline tip, that's a generous tip to help brighten her busy day.

The point is that offline tips have gotten to point that some models actually complain when/if they don't get them. End of story.

 

[GingerAnn]

I gotcha.

What happens is some models receive a certain treatment and then others want the same.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

If my waitress whined and bitched that nobody or not many people leave her $20 tips for a $1 cup of coffee, I'd probably go tip some other hard working and less whiny waitress.....

"Art imitates life"

 

[Jupiter551]

Honestly...models can complain about not getting offline tips when I can complain about not being sent offline nudes lol.

 

[GingerAnn]

Honestly...models can complain about not getting offline tips when I can complain about not being sent offline nudes lol.

Actually, most of the offline tips i get are from people on my daily email lists saying thanks for all the nudes they get in their emails everyday.

 

[Jupiter551]

Lol well then you deserve the offline tips miss bakes

 

[bud9752]

AUTOPLAY MUSIC on a models profile page. NOT only loaded by trolls/idiots but by the model themselves. I'm not against the models loading of her favorite music, but of it AUTOPLAYING immediately when you just want to check a models profile for updates and new info about some item/drawing/raffle they are promoting. PLEASE stop the autoplay and let the "visitor" to your profile read and browse your profiles without having to frantically try and find the player to stop the music. If I want to listen to your favorite music let it be my choice please. Several of the top ranked/popular models have recently loaded these players on their profiles lately.

 

[GingerAnn]

YES! Profile peeves:

-music
-tiled backgrounds you can't read over
-horrible grammar
-pictures that are not resized and don't load right

 

[Jupiter551]

Guests, basics and other premiums who press you for tips.

Assuming one isn't begging, let the model ask for tips - or ask the room in general. And if you're a basic or guest just stfu.

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

Guests, basics and other premiums who press you for tips.

Assuming one isn't begging, let the model ask for tips - or ask the room in general. And if you're a basic or guest just stfu.

This completely. I hate it when someone does that and half the time its someone who hasn't even tipped! :lol:

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Guests, basics and other premiums who press you for tips.

Assuming one isn't begging, let the model ask for tips - or ask the room in general. And if you're a basic or guest just stfu.

If a guest or basic is doing that, they need to STFU because all they want to do is freeload off of others.

But as someone who does deliver as subtle as possible reminders that tips are appreciated for Amber, all I can say in my defense is that it allows her to focus on being entertaining and giving everyone a reason to tip.

Yes, it opens me up to someone saying "durr why dont u start?" Of course, that's usually from someone who's never tipped a waitress let alone a cam girl. But as someone who has given as many tokens as I have (and would do more if I could); I can just tell them that I have tipped Amber in the past or if I have a few tokens, I'll tip them to Amber and then say "OK, now it's your turn." I don't think I've ever seen any of them tip after that.

My point is this: if it's someone who never tips or rarely tips, that is a more than legitimate gripe. But if it's someone who tips very often, or at the very least has tipped the model that night; then I say let them call on others to follow. As long as they're not overbearing about it and it makes things easier on the model, what's the problem?

 

[Jupiter551]

Guests, basics and other premiums who press you for tips.

My point is this: if it's someone who never tips or rarely tips, that is a more than legitimate gripe. But if it's someone who tips very often, or at the very least has tipped the model that night; then I say let them call on others to follow. As long as they're not overbearing about it and it makes things easier on the model, what's the problem?

Well if you're just saying "we need some more tips!" to the room in general - no problem.

Likewise if some asshole is telling the model to bend over, spread em, dance a jig etc etc...they should be told to go ahead and tip (with the unspoken "or stfu")

Calling out a specific member who may just be chatting to the model without being a nuisance or begging - without taking into account special circumstances that arise on a case by case basis - is in my opinion completely counterproductive. If they were going to tip - there's probly no chance they will after being called out on it. Speaking personally, I'd be embarassed and offended and probably leave. I'm certainly not going to tip a girl cos some douchebag in her room "told me off" - then it looks like I only tipped out of guilt. Furthermore, if I didn't have tokens then you probably also dashed the model's chances of having a non-tipping but positive-vibe customer for the night, and tipping next week when he buys tokens - afterall, remember he wasn't even asking for anything other than to hang out and shoot the breeze.

If nothing else it ruins the mood...half of this stuff is in the mind, and when one is making pleasant conversation and deciding whether they might want to take the lady private or spoil her with a tip...suddenly a member butts in and plants the textual equivalent of a giant neon sign saying "Don't forget, this is all just business and you're on the clock buddy". :twocents-02cents:

 

[FrecklesXxX]

Great comments folks.

I'd like to add one of my biggest peeves: models who, when they're not getting the tips in the frequency/amount that they expect, say "I'm bored." You're bored? Are you really saying that? Why would anyone want to hang out with a model who tells her members that they're boring her? If you're bored, you're probably being boring. If you expect people to tip you because you're bored, rethink your method. Maybe this works a handful of times, but long-term it just alienates the members. The fact of the matter is that you're the hostess, the entertainer, if you will. If I'm at a party and the hostess tells me I'm boring her I'll do her a favor and just leave. If you're feeling bored, change things up a bit, or (as has already been suggested) go offline until you're not feeling burnt out.

The most successful models I've watch on here don't rely on members to entertain THEM, rather, they provide or are resourceful enough to instigate a fun atmosphere that everyone enjoys.

 

[LoveMaleja]

Now, before I begin, I'd like to preface that I don't expect anything to change and am not entirely bitter (I still visit MFC).

I've always been baffled by the whole pay up front culture at MFC and camsites in general. I guess it is the fact that payment is generally done in "tip" form. I would much rather have it be more like going to a strip club, where there are women putting on a show who I can tip or not depending on if I feel it's merited.

What I'm really saying is, why is tipping expected before any type of "reward" is offered. I understand that a girl's room is her castle, but I feel it really makes me feel like there is no respect when a model asks/whines for tips, which I then give in decent quantity, to which her reply is "thanks hun" without even a smile. Obviously I can just make my way to another room, but I still feel like I've been ripped off. I'm OK with stated goals like "500 for nude" etc., I'm really just getting at the whole underlying culture of the thing. Rather than me feeling like I'm some sycophant groveling at the feet of a beautiful woman, I would rather feel like a patron of an adult entertainment show, who rewards that show according to how good the show was. I've tried to bring this up in some rooms and gotten majorly ripped for, but I would rather have a girl put on a how and me tip her as a reward for good work. This is at odds with the prevailing "give me money and you just might get to see a nipple" zeitgeist.

I guess it all comes down to what gets the most tips, and apparently guys like to be taken advantage of. This doesn't really apply to the girls who post in this room, however.

 

[Remykins]

Now, before I begin, I'd like to preface that I don't expect anything to change and am not entirely bitter (I still visit MFC).

I've always been baffled by the whole pay up front culture at MFC and camsites in general. I guess it is the fact that payment is generally done in "tip" form. I would much rather have it be more like going to a strip club, where there are women putting on a show who I can tip or not depending on if I feel it's merited.

What I'm really saying is, why is tipping expected before any type of "reward" is offered. I understand that a girl's room is her castle, but I feel it really makes me feel like there is no respect when a model asks/whines for tips, which I then give in decent quantity, to which her reply is "thanks hun" without even a smile. Obviously I can just make my way to another room, but I still feel like I've been ripped off. I'm OK with stated goals like "500 for nude" etc., I'm really just getting at the whole underlying culture of the thing. Rather than me feeling like I'm some sycophant groveling at the feet of a beautiful woman, I would rather feel like a patron of an adult entertainment show, who rewards that show according to how good the show was. I've tried to bring this up in some rooms and gotten majorly ripped for, but I would rather have a girl put on a how and me tip her as a reward for good work. This is at odds with the prevailing "give me money and you just might get to see a nipple" zeitgeist.

I guess it all comes down to what gets the most tips, and apparently guys like to be taken advantage of. This doesn't really apply to the girls who post in this room, however.

would you go into a restaurant and pay only if the food was good? No, because you'd have to pay the price on the menu. Girls posting goals, or saying "tip for tits' or anything like that, is just stating what you can get for your money. If you're unsure about how good it'll be, its probably a good idea to not tip in the first place, and stick with girls who you KNOW will give ya what you want...but yeah. I make sure I get tipped first because you know what? If I don't require the tips to happen before the show, THE GUYS WON'T TIP AT ALL. Why buy the cow when you can get it for free?

 

[Jupiter551]

Why buy the cow when you can get it for free?

On that note, why take the cow private if she does group for 10 per minute!

Seriously though - there's plenty of nude models getting no tips. If I saw the number of times I've seen some idiot member or basic say "start the show bb tips will come"...heh...pretty sure that's perv-speak for "do a free show cos I'm a cheapskate bastard".

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

Seriously though - there's plenty of nude models getting no tips. If I saw the number of times I've seen some idiot member or basic say "start the show bb tips will come"...heh...pretty sure that's perv-speak for "do a free show cos I'm a cheapskate bastard".

Exactly ^^this.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I had a passing thought the other day that became more of a peeve the more I thought about it.

At any given time, in any public show, there are more guests, by far, than registered members.
We can all agree, a majority of those, are most likely under age children.

Nobody and, very few models ever seem to point out this and say "I can't do anything in free chat, the room possibly is full of children".

Ok the children may be as old as 14...15..16 yr olds. Still children.

Are you ladies ever creeped out by that thought while giving a free show?
So I guess my peeve of the day is, you don't have to prove age or anything else to surf into MFC or SV and just.... watch XXX rated content.

It'll bother me for about 2 more days until I say "hey, not my kids not my problem". And, it really isn't your problem either, really.

or is it?

But I can't help but look a the 200 anons in a hot free show and think "I wonder how many of those are kids?"

This is going to ruin my MFC surfing for at least.... a day or 2.
I'm old and I have a short attention span, so sue me.
:lol:

 

[LoveMaleja]

Now, before I begin, I'd like to preface that I don't expect anything to change and am not entirely bitter (I still visit MFC).

I've always been baffled by the whole pay up front culture at MFC and camsites in general. I guess it is the fact that payment is generally done in "tip" form. I would much rather have it be more like going to a strip club, where there are women putting on a show who I can tip or not depending on if I feel it's merited.

What I'm really saying is, why is tipping expected before any type of "reward" is offered. I understand that a girl's room is her castle, but I feel it really makes me feel like there is no respect when a model asks/whines for tips, which I then give in decent quantity, to which her reply is "thanks hun" without even a smile. Obviously I can just make my way to another room, but I still feel like I've been ripped off. I'm OK with stated goals like "500 for nude" etc., I'm really just getting at the whole underlying culture of the thing. Rather than me feeling like I'm some sycophant groveling at the feet of a beautiful woman, I would rather feel like a patron of an adult entertainment show, who rewards that show according to how good the show was. I've tried to bring this up in some rooms and gotten majorly ripped for, but I would rather have a girl put on a how and me tip her as a reward for good work. This is at odds with the prevailing "give me money and you just might get to see a nipple" zeitgeist.

I guess it all comes down to what gets the most tips, and apparently guys like to be taken advantage of. This doesn't really apply to the girls who post in this room, however.

would you go into a restaurant and pay only if the food was good? No, because you'd have to pay the price on the menu. Girls posting goals, or saying "tip for tits' or anything like that, is just stating what you can get for your money. If you're unsure about how good it'll be, its probably a good idea to not tip in the first place, and stick with girls who you KNOW will give ya what you want...but yeah. I make sure I get tipped first because you know what? If I don't require the tips to happen before the show, THE GUYS WON'T TIP AT ALL. Why buy the cow when you can get it for free?

Then why do they call it a tip? Plus the restaurant analogy doesn't really work, MFC is more like going to the strippers, if it was like a restaurant, there would be a menu, and you could choose from that menu. Which is why I like it when girls put goals in their topic. What I'm really talking about is the attitude some of the girls have which shows a lake of respect for the money I'm paying. They just sit there and expect tips, then decide what they may or may not do to reward the tip. A specific example would be a certain Blond girl from the UK that does the whole young schoolgirl act and acts all snobby while getting tipped thousands of tokens to maybe, just maybe give a little flash. I think many guys think that it is somehow some kind of challenge to get these girls to respond to them, kind of like the guys who think it's fun to try and pick up their waitress.

I think it really stems from the perversion of the rules that has messed up the system. Now that many of the girls will basically do full public shows, you can't really expect a merit based tip system, because why would a girl want to go to all the effort of doing a show without some pay upfront. If the rules were followed, then the public chat would be as intended, sort of an advertising campaign for groups and privates.

I understand why it's happening, but it's still something that gets under my skin because I'm paying good money, am very respectful, yet many girls act like they are somehow entitled to the money I'm paying and it's really a privilege for me. This is really a phenomenon I've encountered with many of the european girls on MFC. Obviously I'm going to just go to those girls who really appreciate the fact that they get to pleasure themselves for a living, but it still irks me when I do encounter those snobby girls.

 

[Jupiter551]

I had a passing thought the other day that became more of a peeve the more I thought about it.

At any given time, in any public show, there are more guests, by far, than registered members.
We can all agree, a majority of those, are most likely under age children.

Nobody and, very few models ever seem to point out this and say "I can't do anything in free chat, the room possibly is full of children".

Ok the children may be as old as 14...15..16 yr olds. Still children.

Are you ladies ever creeped out by that thought while giving a free show?
So I guess my peeve of the day is, you don't have to prove age or anything else to surf into MFC or SV and just.... watch XXX rated content.

It'll bother me for about 2 more days until I say "hey, not my kids not my problem". And, it really isn't your problem either, really.

or is it?

But I can't help but look a the 200 anons in a hot free show and think "I wonder how many of those are kids?"

This is going to ruin my MFC surfing for at least.... a day or 2.
I'm old and I have a short attention span, so sue me.
:lol:

Well, yeah I have thought this, and have consequently wondered if this is the reason that so many guests are rude and immature (though not the entire reason I suspect) - but it's also worth remembering that kids having access to porn is a widespread issue and stuff they might see on MFC pales in comparison to hardcore weird stuff they have probably seen online elsewhere.

I know from previous posts you are a parent Paulie and sound like a good one, and would know very well you can't stop kids from experimenting and stuff...the best thing you can do is communicate with them about stuff, set boundaries and make sure they're safe.

At the end of the day, the onus HAS to be on the parents to install software that blocks websites, or be present in the next room etc and checking in every few minutes while their kids are on the net. Because the only other alternative is governments regulating it for us...and personally I'd rather keep their noses out of what we are and aren't allowed to see on the internet (providing it's legal of course).

My niece and nephew have grown up with laptops and stuff...and their parents play enough of an active role in their kids lives to know what they get up to, how to check caches, use things like netnanny...etc etc...people who care about their kids take this as just another facet of rearing a healthy, happy child.

 

[Zoomer]

Honestly, when I have kids, I'd try my best to limit them from seeing hardcore stuff - MFC is tame, and whilst it's so easy to access, I personally think they'll find plenty of much harder and extreme stuff way before they find MFC..

As for netnanny and attempts to limit them - it'd be a fricken challenge I'd set it so my kids know I'm blockign them from all sorts of stuff, and they have to learn how to program, how to do all sorts of stuff. When they can eventually figure their way around it, and avoid all my attempts to log what they're doing via routers, computers, whatever - then they're set

Hopefully if I'm good, they'll be 16 by that time. If not, then I guess I'll have to ... cheat.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I guess they have to learn about it somewhere..... better online than in an alley eh?
:lol:

I'm glad my kids are adults. And I don't wanna know what they did see online as minors. Somethings are just better left unknown.

They seem to be fine adults so I guess the interwebz didn't harm them all that much. Totally different generation, the shit I go "eh... wtf" over they probably don't even pay attention to.

Ok, I'm over it now. :thumbleft:

net nanny.... :lol: as if kids aint smart enough to skirt around some software. The little bastards probably figure out your password before you can memorize it.
:lol:

 

[Traditio]

I just told our kids i would check the router access lists from time to time - that was dangerous enough for them to at least tone it down so i couldn't catch them. I am quite sure they got their share of porn (as i did in my youth - even without internet). Nowadays the youngest is 21 and i have some years until our granddaughter is old enough for the internet...

But i wonder if the kids are really into MFC if they can go to youporn or xhamster and have instant action there.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah, so long as they're 15+ looking at naked women is natural and like us, I'm sure they run when they see more extreme stuff.

Sex and teenage libido is about as natural as it gets. Attitudes toward women are another issue, but parents can set that straight.

 

[LilyVonShtupp]

I think of some of the stuff I got into on the net as a kid and it does make me wonder sometimes. However, at the same time I did learn a lot and it helped me with a lot of things. I was still a virgin until I was twenty and with the exception of an 8 month relationship with a total ass I've been a pretty good girl.

Of course there was no way my parents could have kept me away from that stuff. I knew more about all of it than they did. I only hope I can learn from my own sneakiness when I have my own kids!

I will say, though, even though the idea of minors seeing me kinda creeps me out and is making me consider limiting what I do in free a little more, I'd rather they see the stuff I do and the way I insist on being treated than go to some of the more explicit sites where women are degraded, "raped", peed on, and a variety of other things.

 

[Bocefish]

Of course there was no way my parents could have kept me away from that stuff. I knew more about all of it than they did. I only hope I can learn from my own sneakiness when I have my own kids!

Good luck with that. :lol: