Why so many Romanian / Colombian girls

[Jupiter551]

LOL, holy shit you're still going on about this, do you have some MFC crush that's a studio cam model in one of the countries I blocked or something?

Nope, I wasn't "going on about" it, some guy came into the thread and had a go at me for what I said days ago and was responding.

 

[MrRodry]

Loving this dick-on-dick block-on-block fight but:

Hey! Please don't kill me for being completelly off-topic ray:

I've been on mfc for just a couple of months and things aren't going so well... I feel like I could do much better but I'm not :crybaby: . So,to get to the point, I was wondering if someone, member or model, would like to help me out a little. Please don't send me to another topic, I've read loooots on all kinds of forums. I'd like to have a conversation with someone that knows mfc much better than me, explain him/her what's not going on well and maybe he/she can give me some advices.

Thank you ~~

And you missed the only one you shouldn't. :mrgreen: Get your model status on viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1696 , then check the model only section on this forum.

I believe you are going to find some kind of help and a world of sexy pillow fights covered with theories about the camscore system there.

 

[SoTxBob]

I have to disagree with Mikey and Sevrin on this one, it's way easier to hit next model or something than to deny yourself the pleasure of some culture.

I completely agree Boce.... :-D
While there might be a bit of question to the deff of 'culture' in this respect, Variety is the spice of life indeed. When a person has no desire to expand their horizons they tend to stagnate and become very bitchy and opinionated from their small window to the world.... :icon-lol: :icon-lol:

 

[JolieJolene]

Hi everyone This is my first post in this forum, which I hope will help a little with the question of why so many Romanian girls on MFC, considering I have the necessary insight .
First reason, which is quite obvious, is the poor conditions created in this country and low employment rates.
There are public Universities where you don't have to pay...true..but those places are limited..I finished Highschool with 9.80 points and I could not get a free place in a University, so I got a paid place. Per year the rate is about 500 euros, which compared to what other countries ask for is nothing, but compared to Romanian's average salary and how much someone can save after paying the bills and all is a little fortune for an average family.
But the majority of the young generation tries hard to finish a University only to face the harsh environment of the work force. You don't even have the guts anymore to dream of finding a job in your field, even poorly paid. Chances of new graduates to find someone to hire them on more then 400 or 500 dolars a month/ 8, 9 hours every day are quite small..Imagine that when the rent for even a shared apartment is 150 euros per person. And I am talking now about Bucharest..in the rest of the country is worse. :angry4:

I never complained in room or actually described the situations publicly, but people think they understand, and can imagine...By talking with some of my closest friends there, all USA and Canada guys ,I realised..no..they think they know...but only when my business partner (met on MFC) visited me last year to set up an office I realized by his cultural shock that...the people that don't live in this country have no idea. So the lack of work places , even poorly paid for Graduates, is a real problem , that affects the mood of the population dramatically. So please, if you see a girl having a bad day, don't hate her She sees sad people all the time on the streets so is contagious. This is the reason I don't use public transport anymore, is like you enter the Sadness Dimension

The second biggest reason I think is that romanians are valuable workers..and I don't mean only in this type of business. Some of the biggest centers of IBM, Oracle, Microsoft etc are located in Romania. Most of the young people, girls have at least medium english skills, my opinion. Or at least better then most of Russian and Ucrainians, which is why are the first choice of investors wanting to open studios in Eastern Europe. Not to say that beautiful features, a mix between west and east.Many romanian studios are american owned.

The third, is intensive marketing. You can't open an internet page in Romania without seeing a VideoChat add, mostly from studios. They promise $2500 a month, and benefits. This is a very tempting offer for most girls. And once you are online, even if you don't reach that sum , is hard to quit. I think we all experienced how addictive this can be

False adds. Many studios get their girls by false adds. I , for example applied for a call center ad in English and afterwords they told me what is all about, and tried to convince me. They do this because people consider as black sheeps everyone working in this business, so the social factor is a big pressure. Not all get to know this place from the inside to see what a great place can be, and that there are so many parts to it, and girls are not forced to do anything they don't like, and can actually develop themselves by experiencing so many different people.

Or probably a more plausible explanation is that the ones of us born in the years during Cernobyl nuclear disaster did not end up with a third hand growing on our heads, but instead with a more horny gene? this needs close research...
And..hmm..fast internet? Sorry for the long post..I really tried to keep it short..

 

[JoleneBrody]

Just wanted to say thanks for the above post and hiiiii! You were the first model to ever visit me and my first tip ever! I've always held you, my name doppleganger, in high regard. Teams JJ's!
And that post was so insightful! Thank you so much!

 

[Bocefish]

Or probably a more plausible explanation is that the ones of us born in the years during Cernobyl nuclear disaster did not end up with a third hand growing on our heads, but instead with a more horny gene? this needs close research...

Sometimes extras can be beneficial

All kidding aside, welcome to the forum pretty lady. :hello2:

 

[WonderAli]

I came across this posting while looking for some tips in vdc. And I also want to clarify these things:

1. What other girls have said, I am not going to repeat.

2. One of my biggest issue regarding Romania (and studio actually) is the fact that I am not allowed to tell I am from there. I mean, it kinda makes me feel bad lying that I am from other country and sincerely speaking I have limited choices as I speak only english, french and spanish. I mostly get over this question by just saying to them "I like to keep my location private" but that can also turn off members.

3. One of the main reason I ended up in this situation (a lot of studios require you do not say you are from Romania) is because most of the romanian girls that actually beg for money. I am not saying all, but the majority (more than 50% for sure) do that. It is pretty humiliating and actually I really do not know how they do it because it is a rare thing to know english (my mother is a teacher, I know what I am talking about)

4. Most of the girls do not have the money to buy a HD camera. Internet is VERY CHEAP and VERY GOOD. I mean you get for 10$ per month 100mbs at least. It is all problem with the money and also the fact that studio models get a better promotion on these kind of websites, thus making more money from the beginning. Let's face it, it is an easy way to get money for them.

5. Sorry to say that, it is bullshit to generalize girls by their origin/country. And even though I want to tell my members that I am from Romania and not from random country, if I analyze this better, it might be in a disadvantage as some of the members will immediately categorize me as a poor english speaker (and they wouldn't even think I speak other languages like spanish and french in my case) and stupid. Which I am not and I am glad all of my regular members acknowledged that through different conversations upon different subjects. On top of that I look good (and I am not being a narcissistic bitch here) so what is the point if I am working in a studio?

I am telling you this from my point of view, a romanian chick

 

[Jupiter551]

Well it's good to know at least that it's the studios asking girls not to say they're Romanian, rather than the girls themselves. It's stupid though, some of my favourite people I've known since I found MFC are Romanian, and are rightfully proud to be.

 

[bob]

Well it's good to know at least that it's the studios asking girls not to say they're Romanian, rather than the girls themselves. It's stupid though, some of my favourite people I've known since I found MFC are Romanian, and are rightfully proud to be.

yeah...and WonderAli is right, of course to call "bullshit" in generalizing models by their origins....
one other aside....i know a number or romanian models who do claim another country as theirs at work....whether it's an effective ruse or not, i can't say....but they do it to provide a layer of insulation between their work and their real life.

 

[RedHerby]

i know a number or romanian models who do claim another country as theirs at work....whether it's an effective ruse or not, i can't say....but they do it to provide a layer of insulation between their work and their real life.

there are also models from other east-europe countries who say they are Romanian for this reason

 

[SoTxBob]

Hi Ali :hello2:
Welcome !!!

....tossing my nickle into the resurrected bin here... I know or have known many girls from the region of Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Hungary and parts of the Russian Fed that all say they're from elsewhere... It is indeed for insulation from potential grief. I also am aware of a couple of studio bosses that threaten the girls with sending "visual evidence" of their job to their families if they should decide to quit. Most recently, this happened to one very prominent beautiful blonde that is now an indy. Also, the Romanians in particular, seem to speak very good english. :-D

 

[Nordling]

Hi Ali :hello2:
Welcome !!!

....tossing my nickle into the resurrected bin here... I know or have known many girls from the region of Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Hungary and parts of the Russian Fed that all say they're from elsewhere... It is indeed for insulation from potential grief. I also am aware of a couple of studio bosses that threaten the girls with sending "visual evidence" of their job to their families if they should decide to quit. Most recently, this happened to one very prominent beautiful blonde that is now an indy. Also, the Romanians in particular, seem to speak very good english. :-D

Yes, one in particular speaks better English than 80% of the Americans I know.

 

[WonderAli]

Thank you for understanding, Just wanted to clarify some things!

:hello2:

May you all have a great day

 

[UncleThursday]

I just recently found out that a model I have known and been friendly with for a while is actually Romanian. Her studio made her say Russia, but even though she is on her studio account, still, she now works from home and told me she doesn't have to lie any longer.... but not to tell another mutual model friend who works for the same studio that I know the truth. :lol:

I told her, it's ok, but now I can say Ro words to her when I am being funny. Like I know the Ro words for knee(s) (genunchi), belly button (buricul) and shoulder (umar); and I sometimes use them with a pervy or mhorny emote when I see them when I am being funny with the Ro models I know.

And I'm friendly with more than a few Ro models.

Going back like a year in this thread, JJ mentioned how hot Ro and Russian girls are (honestly, a LOT of Eastern European girls are very hot, Czech, Etc.)... And I think it can be very true. Even girls who might be considered "average" in their countries would turn heads in the US, especially if dressed up right. The one whom I recently found out was Ro, well, I've seen her in jeans and a normal T-shirt, and she's still beautiful in normal every day clothes. If she walked into a bar in normal clothes here in the US, she'd still turn heads.

I used to work with a guy who was stationed in Europe when he was active duty. He went to Bucharest on leave once, and said there were tons of supermodels just walking down the streets.

I think part of it has to do with their diet. The proliferation of fast food isn't as prevalent as it is in the West. So, in general, people eat better in those countries, so they are just more naturally attractive, overall. As opposed to those of us in the West who have grown up on greasy fast food and other junk foods our entire lives, so we have to work our asses off to look attractive.

LilyMarie also made a point about how women dress in Europe. I know one Ro model who used to work for a studio, quit there, eventually moved to the US and recently came back to MFC (I just noticed her new name this past week). And she complains that all the clothes to buy in the city she is in are boring compared to what she could find in Ro. Even lingerie seems more tame and bland to her in the US. Perhaps it's the fact that the US still has some very Puritanical viewpoints on things. She wonders if her mom saved any of her clothes and lingerie to send over. :lol:

I also asked her if US guys hit on her non-stop, and she said not on the street; but when she goes to nightclubs they are all over her.

Oh, and I did watch for lighting changes due to the sun when I was hanging with her this weekend, just to see if she was in the time zone she said she was, and it appeared that, yes, she did move to the US. Mostly because I know a few models who say US as their location, but it can be the middle of the night, here, and bright noon-day sun is shining in their windows.

As to why there are so many Ro girls? Well, simple economics. As some Ro models in the thread have pointed out, the job market, especially for women, is not so hot in Ro. Wages are also low. So, compared to working a normal job, camming can be very worthwhile to them. Even if they work for a studio that takes half their cut. If a Ro girl can earn $100 a day take home (either on her own or after a studio cut), she's already earning higher than the average paying job in Ro. So she is going to see major benefits. Then there's Ro girls like Shy and Mary (CrazySyzy) who are some of the top earners on MFC month after month, let alone just when compared to other Ro models. So those two, as examples, really can seem to live like royalty on what they make (hell, it's very good money in the US...).

And, as has been mentioned, studios offer equipment and a place to cam, which is why so many Ro models seem to be studio models. And, I'm sure they also actively look for girls who they feel can bring in money. While it has been said the Internet access itself is cheap in Ro, the computers and good cams aren't. So many Ro girls will probably start off, at least, in studios because the studios offer the equipment.

It's 5 AM, I might be rambling...

 

[WonderAli]

True true. Minimum salary here is 200$ and an average one is around 400$(tops). Food is pretty expensive here if compared to other countries (as far as I saw), we have to pay a lot of taxes (we are in the top taxes country as far as I remember) and that is why girls would like to cam instead of having a job. I mean 400$ you get in two weeks, in a month at least 800$(for a beginner I say) so why work for less than that?

Unfortunately, working on a cam here is saw pretty bad, so that is another reasons why girls don't like to say they are from Romania. To not be recognized. Most of the people have the mentality that you are a whore if you are doing that.

 

[UncleThursday]

Yeah, Ali, I've read that the average salary in Ro only comes out to about $400 a month. So if a girl can earn that in 2 weeks, she's doing good.

It's unfortunate about the stigma... but it happens in the US and other areas, too. If a guy finds out a woman is a cam model, in many cases, he basically thinks of her as a slut/whore and pretty much expects her to fuck him after he says two words to her. It's why most models block their home states in the US; so local guys won't see them on cam if they browse camming sites (as well as so family members won't see them, obviously).

I've also found, though, that there is a big stigma against Romanian models from other European models, too. Especially Western European models. I've watched some get irate if a guy asks if they're Romanian, some go completely ballistic. And I saw one Italian model a long while back wearing a t-shirt that said "I'm not form fucking Romania!" on cam.

 

[WonderAli]

Romania has made a bad name because of the gypsies. I am not saying all of them are bad, but most of them are not the most honest people let's say. Unfortunately most of the western people do not make the difference between a gypsy and a Romanian. Gypsies are born here, but that does not make them Romanians. They do not have the same heritage. I am not a racist, but it is the truth. I have gypsy friends that work hard, so it's not like I have a grudge on them. But every nation with its own flaws.

 

[Nordling]

Romani (gypsy) people only make up 3.2% of the population of Romania. Hungarians make up about twice that percentage. There are more, as a percentage, Romani in Bulgaria. Seems like a silly reason to "blame" an entire country on anything.

 

[WonderAli]

That is it only in papers. Believe there are more. I live here, I traveled and I can see that. They do not declare themselves as gypsies most of them or they do not declare themselves at all

 

[Nordling]

There is a tendency among humans to notice things we dislike (or like, for that matter), more than we notice the commonplace or banal. I live in the US, and if I were to give an off the cuff opinion on how many Romani, Germans, Moldovan or any ethnicity, live here, I'd be wrong.

Opinions based only on anecdotal evidence are rarely correct. It's really amazing that the Romani people exist at all these days, considering how they've been treated over the centuries.

 

[SoTxBob]

Romani (gypsy) people only make up 3.2% of the population of Romania. Hungarians make up about twice that percentage. There are more, as a percentage, Romani in Bulgaria. Seems like a silly reason to "blame" an entire country on anything.

LOL.. since when did the good old USA, or any other folks for that matter, 'need' a reason to blame an entire country ? Also, the paper percentages are for sure woefully inaccurate .... kind of like believing the US census on percentage of illegals here in the states... They really have no freakin clue so they guess using random info. to make their reports. In that respect, I will believe those that actually live/work/coexist with them there over any govt compiler report.

 

[Nordling]

Romani (gypsy) people only make up 3.2% of the population of Romania. Hungarians make up about twice that percentage. There are more, as a percentage, Romani in Bulgaria. Seems like a silly reason to "blame" an entire country on anything.

LOL.. since when did the good old USA, or any other folks for that matter, 'need' a reason to blame an entire country ? Also, the paper percentages are for sure woefully inaccurate .... kind of like believing the US census on percentage of illegals here in the states... They really have no freakin clue so they guess using random info. to make their reports. In that respect, I will believe those that actually live/work/coexist with them there over any govt compiler report.

lol I won't absolutely believe either one. I don't know how they came up with the 3.2%, but I have no reason to doubt it. Anecdotal evidence, on the other hand, is NEVER accurate when counting people you don't like who live among you. lol

 

[Nordling]

Looking at outside of Romania, EU estimates, it appears that Romania's Roma population is between 4.4 and 9% (1 -2 million out of 22 million). A large minority for sure if it's at the high end, but still not a proper reflection on Romania as a country. To do so would be like saying "the most popular food in the US is tacos, because of all the Hispanics." Silly, eh?

 

[SoTxBob]

blahblahblah.... "the most popular food in the US is tacos, because of all the Hispanics."

:shock: you mean its not true? :lol:
well ok, but its a close 2nd behind burgers.

 

[Nordling]

blahblahblah.... "the most popular food in the US is tacos, because of all the Hispanics."

:shock: you mean its not true? :lol:
well ok, but its a close 2nd behind burgers.

:angry4: No no no! It's lutefisk! And I know because I saw so many Norwegians when I was growing up.



:lol:

 

[SoTxBob]

blahblahblah.... "the most popular food in the US is tacos, because of all the Hispanics."

:shock: you mean its not true? :lol:
well ok, but its a close 2nd behind burgers.

:angry4: No no no! It's lutefisk! And I know because I saw so many Norwegians when I was growing up.
:lol:

Mmm BB. luvs me sumadat good fish smothered in bacon gravy.

 

[Just Me]

Romani (gypsy) people only make up 3.2% of the population of Romania. Hungarians make up about twice that percentage. There are more, as a percentage, Romani in Bulgaria. Seems like a silly reason to "blame" an entire country on anything.

LOL.. since when did the good old USA, or any other folks for that matter, 'need' a reason to blame an entire country ? Also, the paper percentages are for sure woefully inaccurate .... kind of like believing the US census on percentage of illegals here in the states... They really have no freakin clue so they guess using random info. to make their reports. In that respect, I will believe those that actually live/work/coexist with them there over any govt compiler report.

Really? The last thing I will believe is someones personal observations, too many biases. They don't make these numbers up out of whole cloth, there is some science and math involved and it is surprisingly quite accurate.

I still wonder about the number of Romanian and Colombian models though. Is MFC just skewed more towards those countries? Because when you filter for Europe or South/Central America you certainly find the vast majority are from those two countries, regardless what they say or profile says. I find it especially true for South/Central America. I would bet that 99% of the models under that filter are from Colombia. Why not Peru or Bolivia or Mexico? Or in the case of Eastern Europe, Bulgaria or Slovenia or Armenia?

Colombia is certainly not the poorest country in South/Central America. Maybe its a combination of internet availability, societal freedom, available jobs for women and.... I am not sure, maybe some of the poorer countries the stigma would be too great to offset the money they could make?

 

[sweetiebatman]

You could say that for most filters outside of the "North America, Austrlia &UK" one..

The "asia/pacific islands" has to seen many models from 90% of Asia, I have seen no Indian, Pakistani etc etc
I have never seen many French, Italian, Spanish, Swiss, Portuguese, Danish, Swedish German, (except for Lily and she uses VPN!) in the Europe/Russia filter

 

[Jupiter551]

Well here's a question - does MFC block models from some countries other than the Phillipines?

Also, I remember hearing from one camgirl a while ago that she worked on one site where there were all French guys etc (I assume the site was in French) so quite possibly what French girls there are might naturally work on French speaking sites? Idk.