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MarieElise
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- Dec 19, 2019
- 9,750
- 17,626
- 161
- Twitter Username
- @EliMarie717
- MFC Username
- EliMarie
- Streamate Username
- MarieElise
- ManyVids URL
- https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/328205/EliMarie717/
- Clips4Sale URL
- https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/92217/marie717
Are you doing ok with that?
My stomach had a hard time w the transition back to red meat after being a vegetarian a decade. But eventually it cleared up and my body developed the enzymes I needed ( or whatever the hell the process that happens is). The first few meals were something else though (not in a good way, for me, lol).
It went really well! I did think beforehand that the texture might be off-putting, since there's really no vegan foods that can mimic the texture of steak, but I actually liked the texture as well as the flavor. I think it's actually been the easiest/tastiest meat I've reintroduced so far. I'm thinking about learning how to cook steak on a stovetop so I can start eating it at home now, haha.
I actually haven't had any bad stomach issues with any of the foods I've reintroduced. So far I've had eggs, baked and rotisserie chicken, ground beef and now steak. The only somewhat issue I had was the first time I ate ground beef, my stomach felt sort of bloated and heavy. It didn't actually hurt, though. And that may have been due to other issues, since I do deal with random bloating. I even ate dairy on accident (restaurant I went to put feta and cream in a dip that I had ordered the vegan version of), and I didn't even have stomach issues then, which I was really surprised about.
I know there's digestive enzyme pills that you can take that I've read helps when you're re-introducing meat, but I haven't taken any yet and thankfully didn't need them. Always heard that vegans/vegetarians had a hard time bringing meat back into their diet, which scared me away from trying to eat animal products again for years, so I don't know if I'm lucky or if my body was just desperately in need of proper nutrition or if my big meat eating ancestors have been smiling down upon me, but physically, it's been really easy. I'd say it's harder mentally, not because of ethical reasons, but simply because I've been cooking and eating the same things for years and it's just easier for me to keep doing that. I think once I re-learn how to cook different meats and get into the habit of cooking/eating it at home, my diet will do a 180%. Still going to eat vegetables and fruits like I do now, but I think that will be the time I really start weaning off wheat and gluten as well as frozen foods.
If you have a gas stove, I highly recommend broiling it in the oven, especially if you have a huge rib cap on a ribeye steak. (I eat meat only two or three times a week mostly because it's stupidly expensive. But this is my favorite cut.)
AussieCosplay
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Why did I think you were like a decade younger than me??? Talk about assumptions!
Oh heck yes! We are talking about food now!
Y'all we went to kpot to celebrate for finally both of us being done with covid and can had all our senses back. Did both bbq and hot pot. hubby and i went nuts on the the pork belly and mushrooms.
Y'all we went to kpot to celebrate for finally both of us being done with covid and can had all our senses back. Did both bbq and hot pot. hubby and i went nuts on the the pork belly and mushrooms.
Health and social.
I was a vegan for about a decade, and over the last few years I've been dealing with massive fatigue, brain fog and other health issues because I wasn't getting the proper nutrients even with supplements. Plus, I want to eventually have children and studies show how a vegan diet isn't the healthiest for both the baby and momma while pregnant. Figured I should get myself as healthy as possible before then, and also so that when I do get pregnant I don't have to make a massive dietary change overnight. And also, I work out and I feel like I need the protein from meat since meat has higher protein (and all the essential amino acids, I think) compared to plant based protein sources. And, there's only so many beans, tofu and sugar-y protein shakes I can take, haha.
And socially, I don't know any other vegans. My friends, boyfriend and family are all big meat eaters, and it's not fun when you can't eat what other people cook or have to get them to make you something different from everyone else during gatherings/dinners. It's also a lot more difficult going out to eat when you have to worry about not eating meat or dairy.
Have you tried to compromise with just being vegetarian? Friend was having similar problems when she was vegan but was alright when she became veg.
Glad I'm not the only one that thought £140 seemed cheap for sex with a woman. Never been with an escort and don't plan on it but I assume they usually cost more.
Friend insists the best noodles and shrimp meals are in Thailand, he absolutely loves the food there. He said the only problem is best restaurants in Bangkok also happen to be in the red light area and can't have a meal without being approached about going into the clubs (I'm sure he's just making excuses though)
Maybe I'm thinking too "Detective Monk" here, but, can it be that she was discreetly sending you vibes and signs of "help me escape" and then you left and she lost that chance/hope?
I am no American, so, I cannot know first hand how things are in the southern countries, like Colombia. But, I'm hearing and reading a lot about sex trafficing.
I'd say, just in case, have a flash-back, you may want to double check your experience with her in that context as well.
If that's not the case though, well... Interactions with narcissists can happen anywhere, anytime. I don't see how her working as a cammodel makes it any different.
In that case, I wish you luck healing. It took me decades and I'm still not quite there yet.
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good point and one of my initial instincts... one of the reason I wanted to help so badly and fell so hard for her "trauma-dump".
But it is super unlikely. I wrote a lot of reasons and thought about it but I deleted it because it will make everything more and more complicated.
If she is scamming, it would be her binding guys to get as much from them as she can. Food, payed holidays, cam-customers / simp-donaters / rescuers to marry her and so on...
I mean I am really serious about the trauma-bond. I am 100% sure that is what I was in.
The question is, is she doing it out of her real personality unconsciously? (which would not make it her "fault" but still something I could not stay in obviously)
or is she doing it consciously, maybe with a learned system, maybe even with help from a studio or others?
I mean there are many stories of guys falling in love with a cam-model, giving them thousand, hundred-thousands of dollars, trying to rescue and marry them only to find out they are love conned. I thought that could never happen to me... I am naive and empathic but not stupid... but real dates + real sex + a real connection... maybe that is the new way of making it more effective, more authentic and more powerful. (and even more dishonest and morally questionable)?
(Again, no offense, I have deep respect for everyone here doing their work honest with clear intentions).
It would be only related if:
a) the goal was to bring more customers to the sites that are already love-bound to a model
b) if it would be something she learned as a cam model as a new way to love-bind visitors, that she now also uses in her privat life for reasons I wrote above
The thing is, we agreed on some kind of open relationship as stated before. But she refused any form of becoming sexual with me through chat. And I was not pushing, but after some weeks I kindly mentioned it and that I too have some wants and needs... She was always denying and delaying, even ignoring any of my needs (also non-sexual attention which was more frustrating for me). I mean, understandable - it is her job, i am private life. She doesn't want me to be like her customers. She wants me to be a emotional connection where she can forget work. OR she knows that it makes me sexual needy for her, becoming more and more frustrated as a lover, finally giving in to secretly going to her sites (by googling her whatsapp profile picture... again, sooo easy... why?...), and finally paying for what I am craving as a guy in love. I seriously had this thoughts of doing that. But the realization "WHAT AM I THINKING" shocked me and made me question many things. more and more as the time passed. If she really liked me, if she really thought we have a strong relationship or bond, she would have given me more attention. She would not have ignored my needs. If she were empathic she would have really listened. Thousand guys can see her naked every week for some dollars but her boyfriend can't? Even after he is super committed and invested with time and emotions? So that is my logic on why it is related to her being a cam-model. It shocked me that I had thoughts about secretly paying her after she kept me hanging.
(If I asked she said, maybe some day but not now, it gives her nothing)
EDIT: before anyone again tells me "ah so you only wanted free online sex from a cam model"... NO. I asked her twice in three months. And in the discussion she ignored my questions completely in the end, until we started with a new "hey how are you". I wanted to have a friendship, some sort of connection and relationship. She knew how I was deeply "in love". Sexual needs are a part of that.
Really sad to hear that. I read how hard it is to get over it. I hope you can heal. I wish you the best of luck and happiness.
Luckily for me it was only five dates and 3 months of chatting. Could have been much worse.
Thank you so much for your reply.
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Shortly after when she told me "You said you don't want to buy a woman" "I want that now" (Well.. She had this american paying for her holiday so to a degree she wanted to justify that - and I had dates too, far less than her though. Open-Relationship...) And she continued "I already made the 50-50 mistake with my Ex. I want a man to provide the house for me now". That is when I woke up. Something is very very wrong here.
Both could be self-sabotage, too... She told me "I am only the black sheep and I will always be". I think she was really afraid, too. That I would never have a real relationship with her. But I assure you, I would have visited her again for some weeks to see how it can evolve. I thought about nothing else, I wanted it so much back then
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MarieElise
Cam Model
- Dec 19, 2019
- 9,750
- 17,626
- 161
- Twitter Username
- @EliMarie717
- MFC Username
- EliMarie
- Streamate Username
- MarieElise
- ManyVids URL
- https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/328205/EliMarie717/
- Clips4Sale URL
- https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/92217/marie717
What’s your plan for next time you meet someone, if they start trauma dumping? I hate to be overly practical here, in such a sensitive situation but…you might end up back here every few months for the next 40 years otherwise.
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Thank you, very good comment.
Well, it is my first time to ever experience it. And right now I think the larger risk is that I will be too paranoid. Seeing patterns everywhere and pulling away from it too early.
My plan is working on myself, on my personal goals. Setting healthy boundaries and being cautious about it. Also being very cautious if I see "red flags" (Trauma-dump, or also someone building a too love-intense and to deep connection in a super short amount of time). Talking about it if I notice anything and pulling away from toxic behavior if necessary, rather too soon than too late. Probably the biggest lesson is that you can not "rescue" anyone. They can only do that on their own - if they are suffering and want to change their live. Especially people you've just met. But I try to stay open-minded to help people that need it -- to the degree where it is healthy.
Easier said than done though.
I am actually grateful that I found this forum and thankful for all the insights and opinions. Thank you.
EDIT: Another big learning is that if a connection, "falling in love" feels too intense, it is a warning sign. In my situation I felt soo much, like I could finally open completely up, making myself completely vulnerable and to enjoy letting it all out. It was a rush I have never felt before ever. So I thought "is this true love?" in the beginning, like 1-2 weeks after the trauma-dump. It felt good giving so much love to someone, that I thought really needs it and deserves it. To someone so vulnerable, sweet and empathic, that I can be my vulnerable self.
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True lust, perhaps.
True love:
- You're both sick and there's only one prescription for the flu you can afford, so you split the pills in two as best you can so you both get relief
- Cleaning up each other's sick without complaining or blaming or resentment
- Going through the lowest of times together and celebrating the highest of highs together
- Occasionally not getting your way on a little thing that doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of life
- Doing something that makes their life easier in every way, every day
Not true love:
- I don't want to be bought ---> (sees you have expendable cash) ---> I want to be bought
- I don't want 50/50 I want a man to take care of me
- I want to be able to date other people while you take care of me
True love:
- You're both sick and there's only one prescription for the flu you can afford, so you split the pills in two as best you can so you both get relief
- Cleaning up each other's sick without complaining or blaming or resentment
- Going through the lowest of times together and celebrating the highest of highs together
- Occasionally not getting your way on a little thing that doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of life
- Doing something that makes their life easier in every way, every day
Not true love:
- I don't want to be bought ---> (sees you have expendable cash) ---> I want to be bought
- I don't want 50/50 I want a man to take care of me
- I want to be able to date other people while you take care of me
I see the conversation has already moved on to food, so I will try (and apparently fail) to be brief:
- US Embassy in Bogotá
- Bloomberg News: Tinder Crime in Colombia Is Dating Scams at Scale
- Top Scams in Medellin. Marriage scams are #1 followed by dating app related robberies at #2.
So....back to the food. Well, actually, since this topic was tangentially about tourist scams I'll share the time I was scammed as a tourist in Istanbul.
I love Istanbul; what a great city, with history galore, friendly people, and THE CATS!
Work sent me to a conference in Istanbul and a few of us decided to skip out one day and play tourist. Istanbul has three major sites that are within walking distance of each other: the Hagia Sophia, Topkapi Palace and The Blue Mosque. We took a taxi and were dropped off near the Hagia Sophia. No sooner had we started walking than this guy, Muhammad, (late 30'a early 40's) approached and asked if we wanted a tour guide. His tour was free, we would have to pay his admission into the various venues, but otherwise all we had to do was visit his uncle's carpet shop after. No pressure to buy he said, just visit the shop. We told him we weren't interested and tried to move on, but he was persistent. Man was he persistent. Finally we agreed to take his "tour" just to shut him up thinking we could just ditch him later on when the time came.
Best. Decision. Ever.
We only had a few hours and the lines at all three places were hours long. Not only were there huge lines for the ticket booths the lines were just as long at the entrances. We would be lucky to get in to one venue, never mind all three. But Muhammad simply walked around to the back of the ticket booths and returned a few minutes later with tickets. The ticket prices were prominently displayed so he wasn't scalping tickets. At the entrance gates we walked past the long lines, handed the gatekeepers our tickets and walked in. Plus, Muhammad was an excellent tour guide. He knew tons of facts, history, stories and took us to several nooks and crannies that were well off the beaten path.
After we were done we decided, ok Muhammad, you've been great, take us to your uncle's carpet shop. Certainly that is where the scam starts, right? Nope, or at least I don't think so. We sat and visited with Muhammad, his uncle, and the uncle's family for about 30-45 minutes while being served the best mint tea I've ever had. Finally we had to ask to see carpets. Maybe the carpets were acrylic and made in China, but that has to be the lowest pressure sales pitch I have ever encountered. After all was said and done we gave Muhammad a nice tip for the great experience.
It was only after I returned home that I saw a documentary on the tourist scams of Istanbul, and "Fake tour guide with an uncle with a carpet shop" was top of the list. We still talk fondly of Muhammad at work whenever Istanbul comes up.
I did also fall for the "My brother owns a bar, let's go get a drink" scam. I managed to spot the scam and get out only losing $40, but another guy at the conference ended up in the hospital after ringing up a US$4,000 bar tab. But that is a story for another thread.
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I read all of the articles before haha, thank you anyway. This marked one actually before I had the first date in Medellin. Still, never found something about a trauma-bonding scam during my research, JFYI.
Well, I like your story.
But where was that a scam? I mean what did you loose other than the tip? Did I miss something?
Omg. where was that? And how does it work? "My brother owns it, it's all free!" or what?
You fell for a girl that was never intended to be serious anyway. That's on you, no studio training or advance tactics required. Just shrug, call her interesada and move on. The world is full of people that will take advantage of people like you.
I think the thing to note here is that in terms of bullet points 2 and 3 above, this is a case of criminal elements moving to meet a clear demand in the market. If American sex tourists didn't go to Colombia looking for sex then these scams wouldn't exist. The Tinder and scopolamine robberies don't lure sex tourists from America to Medellin. They're already in Medellin looking for sex and that's why they are susceptible to these scams. It's like saying that London is a sex scam hotspot just because clip joints exist in Soho. If you're not already looking for those things then they won't come looking for you.
Sure they will, you think only sex tourist are getting drugged and robbed? Colombians get drugged and robbed too xD
Granted, but the links Slapstick posted are all related to American citizens travelling to Medellin and the things that could befall them. For example, I avoid getting into difficult situations with the Taliban simply by not travelling to Afghanistan. Simple.
I made lasagne for dinner, nice and deep with alternating layers of meat filling (although I use 50:50 ground pork and beef as it seems to have more flavour than all ground beef) and spinach and ricotta layers.
Topped with three cheese mix (mozzarella, cheddar and parmesan) and breadcrumbs - crisped up nice and brown and crunchy.
Served with "cheat's" garlic bread - store-bought turkish bread spread with butter and crushed garlic and 10 mins in the oven.
It's winter down here
Topped with three cheese mix (mozzarella, cheddar and parmesan) and breadcrumbs - crisped up nice and brown and crunchy.
Served with "cheat's" garlic bread - store-bought turkish bread spread with butter and crushed garlic and 10 mins in the oven.
It's winter down here
MarieElise
Cam Model
- Dec 19, 2019
- 9,750
- 17,626
- 161
- Twitter Username
- @EliMarie717
- MFC Username
- EliMarie
- Streamate Username
- MarieElise
- ManyVids URL
- https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/328205/EliMarie717/
- Clips4Sale URL
- https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/92217/marie717
That sounds amazing!I made lasagne for dinner, nice and deep with alternating layers of meat filling (although I use 50:50 ground pork and beef as it seems to have more flavour than all ground beef) and spinach and ricotta layers.
Topped with three cheese mix (mozzarella, cheddar and parmesan) and breadcrumbs - crisped up nice and brown and crunchy.
Served with "cheat's" garlic bread - store-bought turkish bread spread with butter and crushed garlic and 10 mins in the oven.
It's winter down here
You make it sound like there is no prostitution in the "Northern" parts of the Americas lol.Maybe I'm thinking too "Detective Monk" here, but, can it be that she was discreetly sending you vibes and signs of "help me escape" and then you left and she lost that chance/hope?
I am no American, so, I cannot know first hand how things are in the southern countries, like Colombia. But, I'm hearing and reading a lot about sex trafficing.
I'd say, just in case, have a flash-back, you may want to double check your experience with her in that context as well.
If that's not the case though, well... Interactions with narcissists can happen anywhere, anytime. I don't see how her working as a cammodel makes it any different.
In that case, I wish you luck healing. It took me decades and I'm still not quite there yet.
There should be a US embassy bulletin for the United States. Again, all white washing all the time.
Finally an intelligent realty based comment on the why question.
Keep your creepy ass out of my grandfather's country and teach Americans to stop blowing cocaine up their ass with elephant guns and my beautiful Colombians would be even happier than they already are.
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