Turn Offs - Things models do that cause you to go away.

[hornygods]

I've noticed that the more keyboarding and less talking a model actually does, the less likely I'll stay in the room for any length of time. The level of interaction is truly on a different scale, and I must admit - it's a little mundane if all of the interaction only involved text-based speech as opposed to verbal speech. I understand that some models are shy or lack proficiency in English, but I don't think this should stop them from trying nonetheless.

EDIT - I can't say I disagree, Jessi >.<. It's what I consider to be a cheesy form of expressing affection. If an e-kiss takes more than three seconds, it's probably one of these.

 

[SiaSaylor]

Ah Sweep, I am so glad I'm not alone in noticing the 'duckface' (I always forget there's a word for it!). It drives me mad.

Jessi - I laughed at your 'calling a dog' analogy. That's exactly what it's like haha! I don't think it's very flattering, but I've always assumed it's some cultural thing I'm not privy to. Like air kisses laid on people's cheeks.

Hornygods, I totally agree. The model instantly fails to be 'real' to me when she types and doesn't speak. It's especially off-putting when she has sound, but just doesn't use it. And yeah, I'd prefer adorable vocal broken english to emotionless typed broken english. I'm always shocked there are people in those girls' rooms when there are so many other cute models who speak and interact on the site.

I'm coming across super picky and possibly bitchy right now, but I swear I'm not. I perving on models. I just prefer them to be completely themselves. To the nth degree.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

It may make me seem old but when I think of duckface I think of the character from Fullhouse and how he always got laughed at and was an outcast as the weird kid. Let that be a lesson to the girls that do that, I will laugh at you. point and laugh.

 

[BoltEyeAm]

Ive seen some studio models "air kissing" like the smooch smooch thing you do to call a dog over. whaaat :? Just like doing it, not like blowing a kiss just "mmmm smooch smooch" so awkward...

Those are intended to be un-directed blow kisses. Instead of putting a kiss out in the air and pushing it over to the intended recipient they release it like a slow fart allowing it to linger around the room making everyone there happier.

 

[hornygods]

It's well intention-ed, but the effectiveness of such is dubious. It's about as awkward as a slow-fart, or a dog-kiss imitation for sure. It's a bit like watching this:



Ew.

 

[camstory]

It's well intention-ed, but the effectiveness of such is dubious. It's about as awkward as a slow-fart, or a dog-kiss imitation for sure. It's a bit like watching this:



Ew.

Yes I understand the point, and the inside kiss vid helps, yet not as impressive as the inside slow moving fart vid, would be. :lol:

 

[BoltEyeAm]

It's well intention-ed, but the effectiveness of such is dubious. It's about as awkward as a slow-fart, or a dog-kiss imitation for sure. It's a bit like watching this:



Ew.

Yes I understand the point, and the inside kiss vid helps, yet not as impressive as the inside slow moving fart vid, would be. :lol:

Call me stupid but what is the point?

 

[hornygods]

If you're referring to me, the basic gist was basically: airkissing like a dog for extended periods is highly unattractive because it's about as awkward as the video I've posted.

 

[ga5457]

One thing I hate is when the model is constantly messing with her phone. I have no desire to watch a girl that spends most of her time reading messages/emails and responding to them.
James

 

[Vanessa Jade]

One thing I hate is when the model is constantly messing with her phone. I have no desire to watch a girl that spends most of her time reading messages/emails and responding to them.

I seriously cannot understand why someone would even have their phone anywhere nearby while on cam. I leave my iPhone on the stereo dock for music purposes while I'm on and see my cam time as a 3-5 hour No Cellphone break.

Messing with one's phone while one is supposed to be interacting with people, in any situation, is pretty rude IMO - not just on cam but IRL too. :twocents-02cents:

 

[LadyLuna]

One thing I hate is when the model is constantly messing with her phone. I have no desire to watch a girl that spends most of her time reading messages/emails and responding to them.

I seriously cannot understand why someone would even have their phone anywhere nearby while on cam. I leave my iPhone on the stereo dock for music purposes while I'm on and see my cam time as a 3-5 hour No Cellphone break.

Messing with one's phone while one is supposed to be interacting with people, in any situation, is pretty rude IMO - not just on cam but IRL too. :twocents-02cents:

Some girls do phone calls while in private, so I can understand having the phone nearby and maybe even "on". (I used to do that, back when my phone had a built-in block that didn't even allow *69 workarounds)

 

[Vanessa Jade]

One thing I hate is when the model is constantly messing with her phone. I have no desire to watch a girl that spends most of her time reading messages/emails and responding to them.

I seriously cannot understand why someone would even have their phone anywhere nearby while on cam. I leave my iPhone on the stereo dock for music purposes while I'm on and see my cam time as a 3-5 hour No Cellphone break.

Messing with one's phone while one is supposed to be interacting with people, in any situation, is pretty rude IMO - not just on cam but IRL too. :twocents-02cents:

Some girls do phone calls while in private, so I can understand having the phone nearby and maybe even "on". (I used to do that, back when my phone had a built-in block that didn't even allow *69 workarounds)

Oh, that's true, I hadn't thought of that. I haven't done phone-related-anything in a long time, and I did not do it with cam very often either.

But still, no excuse to be playing Words With Friends, texting or talking to your BFF while you're on cam, unless you're doing some sort of fetish Voyeur/Ignore show.

 

[BoltEyeAm]

One thing I hate is when the model is constantly messing with her phone. I have no desire to watch a girl that spends most of her time reading messages/emails and responding to them.

I seriously cannot understand why someone would even have their phone anywhere nearby while on cam. I leave my iPhone on the stereo dock for music purposes while I'm on and see my cam time as a 3-5 hour No Cellphone break.

Messing with one's phone while one is supposed to be interacting with people, in any situation, is pretty rude IMO - not just on cam but IRL too. :twocents-02cents:

Some girls do phone calls while in private, so I can understand having the phone nearby and maybe even "on". (I used to do that, back when my phone had a built-in block that didn't even allow *69 workarounds)

Can't you use google voice? I assumed most cam girls use google voice to keep their number anonymous and to prevent reverse number lookups.

 

[LadyLuna]

Can't you use google voice? I assumed most cam girls use google voice to keep their number anonymous and to prevent reverse number lookups.

Can and do, sort of...

As soon as I mention it's a google voice number, no takers. O.O

 

[camstory]

I find that sometimes the reason why guys like the gals who come across as very young and girly can be a subconscious need to protect and nurture. They're looking for the fantasy of someone who needs them to take care of them and protect them from stuff, and those guys can be very kind.
Some guys love it when I wear pigtails and show off my braces. I don't think it's creepy because they aren't seeing me as a little girl, they're seeing me as something soft, feminine, and delicate. At least that's the way it comes across to me.

The biggest thing that would make me not want to watch a model is looking like they don't want to be on cam. When they seem uncomfortable, or unhappy it's just not sexy. I can't watch people do things they're uncomfortable with for money, it just seems awkward.

Catching up a bit, and this post from 2/26 had not one thank. I'm amazed - not a word in this post that I don't strongly agree with.

I don't tend to frequent rooms of models under 25-30 and the models in those that I do look like full fledged women. But I can absolutely understand the attraction of seeing a model as delicate, soft, and in need of protection. As I typed that, I realized there is one big exception to the full fledged women look of the models I frequent. This model who I find very attractive, I know I would not find attractive if I had been shown a still picture of. I realize now that it is her expression and embodiment of the ultra cute, sweet, gentle to the point of needing protection look, that is a major part of why I find her so attractive. Though it is the juxtaposition of the fact that she is such a freak that makes her uber hot. So yes I think there are some guys, (myself included) who are attracted by models who have the appearance of a soft, cute, young lady, who are not attracted by the pedi aspect, but rather by the gentle, soft, need protecting aspect. (Think Big Mike the Blind Side)

Again I can't agree more about seeing a model who you can tell is hating camming right then, but for whatever reason is on, as so unattractive, even depressing. When this happens, I feel myself sharing the anxiety of the model. It is uncomfortable and like the way I feel when I watch someone do something totally embarrassing, but worse.



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[camstory]

When a girl has the camera positioned from the neck down the entire time. I like to look at who I'm talking to, I'm weird like that.

To be honest much more of my time spent at MFC is about socializing, rather than perving. But when I am perving, I will not return to a model's room (well not to perv) if she does not show her face during the money shot. :lol: Seriously though, for me it is all about the facial expression - that is where it translates. Not that it does not other places as well. I just think the eyes are so much more expressive than the vag.

 

[superdancingjedi]

I get really annoyed that people leave if they room is quiet well fuckin' talk then models are not just talk to themselves to entertain you. Say something interesting we are people not television sets.

So ask us how we are, say something interesting to get the ball rolling.

Half of the time I will turn on the cam and be anxious despite doing it for nearly a year so why not say hello, we don't bite.

I do understand that bad cams or people being off their face on drink/drugs can be a turn off.

 

[LadyLuna]

Catching up a bit, and this post from 2/26 had not one thank. I'm amazed - not a word in this post that I don't strongly agree with.

I constantly forget to thank people. for things. Looks like this is yet another thread I'll have to go back through and make sure all the posts I appreciated are thanked.

When a girl has the camera positioned from the neck down the entire time. I like to look at who I'm talking to, I'm weird like that.

To be honest much more of my time spent at MFC is about socializing, rather than perving. But when I am perving, I will not return to a model's room (well not to perv) if she does not show her face during the money shot. :lol: Seriously though, for me it is all about the facial expression - that is where it translates. Not that it does not other places as well. I just think the eyes are so much more expressive than the vag.

While I can understand not being okay with never seeing the girl's face... what do you mean by the money shot? I used to do closeups in public for tips, and if you could see my vagina, well, with how my camera was positioned in order to get my face in there I would have to be a gymnast! Now, boobies you would see my face unless it was a closeup. Ass... well, again, it's hard to show ass and face at the same time. After all, they're on opposite sides of the body no matter how we bend!

I've had guys come in during an extended boobie closeup and say "could you please show your face?" And I would oblige them for a moment, with a constant patter of "sorry about that, usually you can see it, but someone tipped for a closeup of my boobs and I don't feel they've been on display long enough for how much was tipped so I'm going to go back to that now, but it'll be just a bit longer and my face will be the focus again" (since it's only happened a couple times and I get nervous, that's probably exactly word-for-word of one of them)

 

[hornygods]

I still believe in the philosophy that 'it is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt'. You've got to realise that a significant portion of the memberbase, if not a majority, aren't able to hold an intelligible conversation.

Indeed, a silent room is worse than a bad fart. It is a lingering feeling that reeks of dissatisfaction and a lack of respect. Is it really less preferable over a room of nonsense, though? I'm not implying that a silent room is paramount, but you must consider the shortfalls of the alternatives. I don't think either is excusable, but perhaps the lesser of the two evils. It does irk me though when the room-count is so high, yet the room activity is next to nothing. It's seriously depressing, and almost puts into question (at least mentally) about the ability of the model, even if it's not reflective of such.

I'll share a rant from camgirlsconfess on tumblr. I don't disagree with a single notion in it.

It absolutely drives me nuts when I’m dressed to the nines, with 200 some odd viewers and none of them have the ability to speak, much less tip. It pisses me off and put me out of the mood faster than a bad fart. I find silence absolutely rude, inexcusable and unforgivable. Nothing makes me want to rage quit more than a hundred people watching and flat out refusing to talk. If you do that in my room, I will do whatever within my means to give you the worst case of blue balls that I can. I am not a free show and I’m not the television. Silence when I’m trying to put on a show makes my pussy dry up faster than I can blink. Want me turned off and pissed off? Just stop talking and see what happens.

Personally, I do try to stimulate conversation by talking with the model myself, but this is hit-and-miss. It sometimes works, it sometimes doesn't. I wish I knew of a cure.

I am curious, though - when does a silent room occur most often? In group shows, in private chat, or in public chat? Does it happen during a show, or when naked, or even when clothed?

It's not uncommon for a room to quieten down when the model is performing a show as it may not be considered courteous to be discussing something irrelevant during a show, or even if something is relevant; depending on the activity, the model may have to stop performing to respond, which seems unfair to the tippers who contributed towards the show - in addition to the fact that many members would be having a task at hand.

I guess, all in all, the worst case scenario is when nobody would tip or talk in the middle of a countdown. It's worse when a model is half-naked because it implies that the members are disinterested in the model, even with her body fully exposed. I guess its one of the worst experiences on MFC - a room full of lurkers.

I wonder if unmuting basics, even for a short period, would change anything though. I'd imagine that some of the shy-er premiums may decide to start talking simply out of frustration with the basics. Hmm.

 

[LadyLuna]

Silence during group or private, or at least mostly silence, is kinda expected. In group, if everyone's completely silent but still watching, I'm doing my job right! In private, after the basic "hello" and "show me (insert what the member wants here)" I don't expect him to do more than bang a key every now and then to let me know he's still there and MFC didn't fuck up on us. "mm" every once in awhile is enough.

But silence during public... There is no real rememdy. We have premium members saying they'll leave as soon as they see a wall of basics talking. We have premium members saying they'll leave if they see nothing in the room. Which is worse? I think the ones that will leave without even trying to get the room going are fewer than those who will leave if they see basics talking. But in the meantime, we're left with 50 people not even willing to answer the question "can you still see my camera?"

 

[Vanessa Jade]

But silence during public... There is no real rememdy. We have premium members saying they'll leave as soon as they see a wall of basics talking. We have premium members saying they'll leave if they see nothing in the room. Which is worse? I think the ones that will leave without even trying to get the room going are fewer than those who will leave if they see basics talking. But in the meantime, we're left with 50 people not even willing to answer the question "can you still see my camera?"

This exactly. I try goddamned everything I possibly can to get even a whisper of conversation going and to be honest, even unmuting basics and guests doesn't help. Not even a nibble most of the time and I absolutely hemorrhage the occsional premium who somehow wanders in because they either see that nobody is talking and leave, or see that basics are muted ad leave, or see that basics are UNMUTED and leave. It's an unwinnable situation.

 

[Kradek]

Don't know if it's been said yet; I'm pretty easy going, but I'll quickly leave a room if I'm tipping and the model is spending most of their time in PMs with someone else.

 

[Jessi]

Whenever I go into a model's room and they are playing We Found Love by Rhianna I hit next. Uuuuggghgh

 

[Nordling]

Whenever I go into a model's room and they are playing We Found Love by Rhianna I hit next. Uuuuggghgh

:lol: Wut? U no liek autotune bb? lol

 

[camstory]

as I type I have a models audio running in the background. I had to post right off b/c I was shocked at how turned off I just got when she started with the daddy talk. I was not sure why she was on my friends list, bu...

update she has just said someone asked her to say that, brb...

Back: Back in the room I saw a comment that said something like, "was she molested by her dad when she was little or WTF."
That is the comment to which she had responded, I think. After that comment, she didn't say it again. Back in her room I waited til her show was over, and sent a 10 token ninja with a tip note that read, "Tiny ninja says he is glad you don't do daddy talk regularly cuz it makes his tiny little ninja pecker go limp." After reading the note she started to again explain that she had been tipped to do it, and hadn't really thought about it so much but did when the chat comment came up, and when she did she really didn't like it.

Well the reason I raced in here was because I was very surprised by how big an effect it had on me. I wonder if it had such power b/c this thread had it at the top of my in box, or if it would have had the same punch regardless. IDK, but I do know it definitely don't work for me.

Also right before she started with the daddy crap there was a tip, I think it was a 10 token tip, maybe 20,30-50, but I think it was 10, and as much as 50 + I would recall with certainty I think. So if I am right, she did this for $.50. If it really bothered her after thinking about, bet she gets at least 3or4 bucks next time. :lol: Sorry still a little tripped out.

You know what, thinking how could it be that I have lived as a perv for the better part of 48 years and not had this experience before. Then I thought I have heard it in pornos before, and was unaffected. then I thought a little more, and realized I have heard -modelx- use the word daddy once or twice and was unaffected.

Conclusion: this thread has conditioned me to have a Pavlovian reaction to daddy talk. Also tonight's model was, using it very heavy. oh daddy yeah grab me there yeah daddy put it there daddy yeah do me like that daddy and so on...

Just realized I can retrieve the chat archive to see if I missed any thing while away. brb

08:16:39 PM SirWanksaBit: I absolu...

8:17:59 PM aaj1: whos daddy lol

08:18:45 PM KattStacksLOL: i think she was molested by her dad or something WTF?

OK shortly after my post at 8:16:39 she started - missed or let the first comment slide at 8:17:59 - and stopped after the second comment at 8:18:45

Also I scanned the chat and the tip must of been sub 50 because there was no clapping in a room where any tip of any size had been being applauded. (There is a chance I missed the tip sound and she got a ninja of some size.)

Well this makes for a scattered sort of post, but as I started as a real time account I just carried it on and put down thoughts that otherwise I would not. Perhaps I should rewrite it in a more conventional manner, but I am tired and still have to answer LLuna's question so I'm going to leave it. Besides I find it fascinating that I often learn things about myself by pulling out my thoughts and looking at them as I write. (And I know all of you are dying to waste your time to view my twisted thought process )

 

[hornygods]

I've stopped reading before the last two paragraphs, so I'm a bit sketchy on the details. It does seem that you gain a stronger awareness of your dislikes if you're expressing it on a forum like this - perhaps you were previously conditioned to be tolerant of it simply by hearing as opposed to listening for it? I theorize that it is probably the case.

I'm personally repulsed by incest role-play - not so much in porn, but more-so on cam-sites like MFC. I'm not sure why - I almost feel that the emulation of the level of affection required to do so would go into a dangerous territory, as it would be a violation of trust.

On a more related note - I'm peeved when models focus too much on the financial aspects of MFC. I realise how much some of you girls struggle, and how significantly this impacts on your motivation and such - but constantly telling me about it does not help the situation. I will tip if I could, but if I couldn't, then I couldn't despite my best intentions. It might be a good idea to focus on activities that could encourage tipping, as opposed to whining about the lack of it? It's deleterious because it falls into two distinct categories;

'I want a beefier paycheck', in addition to 'I am a Debbie Downer who can't talk about anything but de-motivation subjects e.g. tips, or the lack thereof'

I'm not aiming this rant at any particular model, so please don't mistake it to be, but my objective is to raise awareness that for some models that telling us about how bad the income has been would probably drive us away more than it would part with our money for sympathy tipping (psychological ploy that doesn't work on many people).

 

[camstory]

Catching up a bit, and this post from 2/26 had not one thank. I'm amazed - not a word in this post that I don't strongly agree with.

I constantly forget to thank people. for things. Looks like this is yet another thread I'll have to go back through and make sure all the posts I appreciated are thanked.

When a girl has the camera positioned from the neck down the entire time. I like to look at who I'm talking to, I'm weird like that.

To be honest much more of my time spent at MFC is about socializing, rather than perving. But when I am perving, I will not return to a model's room (well not to perv) if she does not show her face during the money shot. :lol: Seriously though, for me it is all about the facial expression - that is where it translates. Not that it does not other places as well. I just think the eyes are so much more expressive than the vag.

While I can understand not being okay with never seeing the girl's face... what do you mean by the money shot? I used to do closeups in public for tips, and if you could see my vagina, well, with how my camera was positioned in order to get my face in there I would have to be a gymnast! Now, boobies you would see my face unless it was a closeup. Ass... well, again, it's hard to show ass and face at the same time. After all, they're on opposite sides of the body no matter how we bend!

I've had guys come in during an extended boobie closeup and say "could you please show your face?" And I would oblige them for a moment, with a constant patter of "sorry about that, usually you can see it, but someone tipped for a closeup of my boobs and I don't feel they've been on display long enough for how much was tipped so I'm going to go back to that now, but it'll be just a bit longer and my face will be the focus again" (since it's only happened a couple times and I get nervous, that's probably exactly word-for-word of one of them)

What I meant by the money shot, is, if I am watching a show for my perv value, I want to be able to see the models face when she reaches that place... when she cums. I think I am not so much like others, or some others of my gender. I don't need to view the point of stimulation, but I do need to see the result of the stimulation. My fantasy is not about imagining the sensation of my hand on my penis as being the dildo that is sliding in and out a vagina in close up view. Because this tells me little about the object of my desire. My focus is not on my pleasure, but yours.

My fantasy is to watch your experience of pleasure, to watch as it builds, to focus on your pleasure so intently that I can feel how you are feeling. There is nothing more erotic to me than watching your eyes become unfocussed, glazed and roll back, as the tension falls away in small spasms from your face. Your neck arches back and I can literally see a wave of hot pleasure wash over you. You are some place else, not far, but out of your body. You are vaguely conscience of balance and noise, but your field of vision is swirls of different shades of black. The sound of the tip bell ushers you back into yourself as your eyes roll down and refocus. You regain your balance, sit upright and reach for your keyboard.

That does not happen often, but it can not, if I can't see your face. So yeah, that's what I meant.




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[SoTxBob]

Daddy talk... Yeah. UGH ! I'd forgotten about this dislike. There used to be a model in one of the larger studios that did a lot of that. It seemed to be her standard greeting to guys. 'Hi Daddy. wanna see my poozy' was a well worn phrase. Apparently there are a LOT of guys that respond positively to that. She told me that daddy and brother sister RP was a big part of her income in pvt. and was easier to just stay in character. I initially became familiar with her bc the studio reused the acct and it had belonged to one of my first fav girls when that list was still in the single digits.

I don't need to view the point of stimulation, but I do need to see the result of the stimulation. ....There is nothing more erotic to me than watching your eyes become unfocussed, glazed and roll back, as the tension falls away in small spasms from your face. Your neck arches back and I can literally see a wave of hot pleasure wash over you. You are some place else, not far, but out of your body. You are vaguely conscience of balance and noise, but your field of vision is swirls of different shades of black......

yes indeedy... :-D
Personally, I'm not a teenager any more, have been face deep in plenty of the real thing, and am past needing 'medical closeup shots' to see whats going on. I dont find a labia minora thats as big as my screen particularly attractive. In fact, more than a few times I've left a room when there's a screen full of hair follicles that are a few days past shaving. [lol.. would any of you ladies really like a screen full of 'one eyed willy' or more of an overall view of it and the guy it belongs to?] :lol: :lol:
I'd also rather see some sensual wisp of clothing to allow the mind to work on some fantasy level instead of a 'nothing at all left to the imagination' view when a girl is on the screen. I'm probably just odd in that respect tho...

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Agreed on the previous statements- I get there a hell of a lot quicker when a girl is masturbating and her face is showing so I can see her eyes roll back, or hear her moan while biting her bottom lip and so forth as opposed to just a close up full screen view of dildo being inserted into a vag. I don't need to see you actually fucking yourself to have the fantasy that I am there fucking you.

As for the rooms and silence I will probably say more here than maybe I should. New rooms that I have not ventured into before I look at as more of investment for when I do have tokens and the girl is awesome I will come back and express my gratitude for her being awesome. Now I am sure a lot of girls would prefer that guys only would come into her room when they have tokens to share at that moment in time because when I go into a new girls room where it is silent I will gladly talk- talking is something I do not have any trouble with what so ever BUT from my experience I know it is a matter of time before that salesman switch goes off in the girls head that we go from having a conversation to her trying to entice me to take her private or something followed by awkward silence when I don't have enough money for a private to be worth anyone's while and is what keeps me out of rooms where I am not a regular in where the girly already knows I will give what I can when I can.

 

[ga5457]

All this "daddy" talk just reminded me of a room I stopped in a couple months ago. The model wouldn't show her face. Someone asked her why. She said her real father was a member of MFC and she didn't want him to come in her room and recognize her.