Just trashed a post I had an hour + into. two points I wanted to make and couldn't get ether right
The first is important to me. I know it doesn't mean anything to anyone else, but when I am the OP of a thread, I'm aware that I feel a little like it's my baby. That is why I want to thank every one for not turning this into a thread where things become heated, personal, and counter productive. This is the type of thread that could go quickly from friendly to bitch board where 90% of the post become non-productive complain/blame/reaction. It would be a waste of time, (unless bickering gets you off), and it would feel icky. :sad5: I had wanted to say thanks in some graceful or poetic way, but nothing sounded sincere. I am not sure this does ether, just trusting what is felt will be reflected. Mostly directed at the models for not reacting to a few of the post that if not personal felt a bit to me like model bashing. I am also thankful that only a few of the complaints had that feel, or at least to me.
(this next point I don't think I can make with out sounding like I am telling ppl how to act. I thought about using the "this is what I do" approach, but I didn't want to sound like some one who thought they are a shrink, or a counsellor at an anger management class. There's just no way to hide it, I think I could complain better, no better is not right - could complain in a way which might be less provocative than some of the complainants here.)
I have noticed a post or two that had a bit of a nasty/adversarial tone. I think we should be careful that we don't let animosities creep in. To start a statement with, "I don't want anyone to take this personal, but" does not mean that it won't be, and that we then can say W/E we want H/E we want to. Of course it is going to be taken personal to some extent. Any time someone is addressing another, individual, or collective group, what is said is going to be taken personally, more or less. When the word 'complaining' works, it's senseless aggregation to use bitching, or whining. I think we should not assume we know why things are as they, and suggest that its a scam, con, or ploy if we can't be certin of that, or if it is something that could go one way or the other and our statement is a blanket thrown atop everyone. There are other key words that have been used, where a kinder word would work just as well, unless anger is part of what you want to convey. If it is, please take it to another thread, or start the angry perv model bitch board thread. I'm just suggesting we be careful and thoughtful about the complaints we have. For the guys it might help to imagain how it would be to be on the other end of this. To have someone constantly complaining, at times repeating the complants, or complaining about things you have no control over. This should not be hard for anyone who has ever had a GF. :laughing-rolling: :laughing-lettersrofl: :teasing-neener: I kiddd, I kiddd.
Finally, (please Vic) As I have been working on this post I am aware that JJ has posted about just this thing. It was her previous post that inspired this one. while previewing the first section of this post her post popped up. I only quickly scanned it and didn't really understand the last bit (But only b/c I didn't take the time to, I'm sure) but if it is that something has been said directed at someone it makes me sad. And it is not what this thread is about. Yeah, I guess my baby isn't exactly cute, but I would hate to see it turn ugly.