Help...I think I've been scammed by a model

[IsabellaSnow]

Well...not sure about the "recovered"...but there is a hole in me and I suppose I am sort of filling it...older and wiser!

Another thing...I think most of the girls who have commented on this post are from the US/Canada...or at least Westerners...and so see things with Western eyes. Conditions and wages in Romania and eastern Europe are pretty poor...I think the average wage in Romania is around 100 euro a MONTH!!! So of course this leads to plenty of crime, scamming etc. But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

Thanks again for the feedback and support...good to see people's different perspectives.

This is the scam itself. You're foolish for even saying these things. I'm english, but a large amount of my friends are european. Though sure, wages are wayyy less in Romania and other parts of eastern europe, living costs are also a whole bunch cheaper. I make a really decent living and I live in the UK where things cost a lot of money. If a Romanian girl has discovered cam modelling and is doing ok/working a decent amount of hours then she's doing ok financially, probably much better off than most people in America or the UK.

This whole "I can go meet a really poor beautiful girl and save her from this horrible life" attitude is another delusion. It's exactly what Romanian girls do play on, because many of them know that "westerners" think they all live in some derelict hovel that they can't possibly get out of without a kind, wealthy man.
No I do not think that most Romanian girls dream of some dude turning up and saving them from their terrible life. I think sometimes they will play on that with camming, but the girls I know who are eastern european are all pretty fiesty, strong and intelligent women. Those who've found camming have already found a job that means chances are they're earning 10x + the average wage for their country, and sure, you might not want to live there, but they probably do. That country is their home.

I mean yeah, I'm sure there are proportions of girls who are in really bad situations and wouldn't mind someone helping them out financially, but you can paint this two different ways if sex is involved. You can paint it out as how this man comes in and saves a poor girl from a bad situation with his finances. Or you can paint it as a well off man deliberately goes to poor countries looking for vulnerable women who aren't in the position to say no to money, even if it means doing something they don't want to do. Men love to paint it as the first one, but in all honesty I think unless the girl is already offering escorting services, the second one is the true one. If you want to do charity then do charity, what you're thinking of isn't charity though, it's forcing vulnerable women into really difficult decisions and choices they don't want to make and painting out you're the good guy.

If I were you I'd go and seek out a woman in real life and forget about camming altogether, camming clearly isn't for you. You obviously want real life companionship and though camming has its fun and temptations it's never going to be enough. Maybe you'll find something real life from the camworld, but there is next to no chance of this. Chances are you'll waste a fuck load of time, even more money and will eventually leave with a bad taste in your mouth.

 

[Falke]

Conditions and wages in Romania and eastern Europe are pretty poor...I think the average wage in Romania is around 100 euro a MONTH!!! So of course this leads to plenty of crime, scamming etc. But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

100 Euro per month seemed awfully low, even granting that Romania and some of the other Eastern European countries don't have wealthiest economies. The average gross salary is around $600 per month (well, according to Wikipedia), so roughly 450 Euro. That's obviously still pretty low; it's still half of countries like Hungary or Poland. I can imagine that cost of living is steeper in big cities where most studios are, but it's also not quite abject, grinding poverty. It does mean, however, that a model doesn't need to be so amazing successful to reach an average salary, particularly if a studio isn't taking a cut. Not sure if that is really meaningful, but maybe it provides some perspective.

 

[mynameisbob84]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

It's like you KNOW me! :shock:

 

[gollum678]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

 

[gollum678]

But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

If this is what you're looking for, why not go to a dating site that links women from that part of the world with guys from your part of the world?

It's like the old saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me -- the first time, okay that's unfortunate. But if you go specifically to camgirls looking for marriage (or whatever it is you're looking for), don't be surprised when you come up empty handed and feel scammed when girls don't reciprocate what you want.

I thought I made it quite clear that I wasn't originally looking for a serious relationship...and I am not doing that now.

 

[gollum678]

Well...not sure about the "recovered"...but there is a hole in me and I suppose I am sort of filling it...older and wiser!

Another thing...I think most of the girls who have commented on this post are from the US/Canada...or at least Westerners...and so see things with Western eyes. Conditions and wages in Romania and eastern Europe are pretty poor...I think the average wage in Romania is around 100 euro a MONTH!!! So of course this leads to plenty of crime, scamming etc. But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

Thanks again for the feedback and support...good to see people's different perspectives.

...the girls I know who are eastern european are all pretty fiesty, strong and intelligent women. Those who've found camming have already found a job that means chances are they're earning 10x + the average wage for their country, and sure, you might not want to live there, but they probably do. That country is their home.

Or you can paint it as a well off man deliberately goes to poor countries looking for vulnerable women who aren't in the position to say no to money, even if it means doing something they don't want to do. Men love to paint it as the first one, but in all honesty I think unless the girl is already offering escorting services, the second one is the true one. If you want to do charity then do charity, what you're thinking of isn't charity though, it's forcing vulnerable women into really difficult decisions and choices they don't want to make and painting out you're the good guy.

If I were you I'd go and seek out a woman in real life and forget about camming altogether, camming clearly isn't for you. You obviously want real life companionship and though camming has its fun and temptations it's never going to be enough.

Maybe you'll find something real life from the camworld, but there is next to no chance of this. Chances are you'll waste a fuck load of time, even more money and will eventually leave with a bad taste in your mouth.

I was talking specifically about cam girls...who as you pointed out...are feisty, strong, intelligent women. And I was just putting an idea out there. No one mentioned visiting poor countries to exploit vulnerable women and I would never condone such behaviour. Please don't twist my words to suit your own agenda.

I have plenty of real life friends...all I wanted from cam girls was a bit of fun with no commitment or hassles...I never planned to fall in love and if you had read my posts properly this would be pretty clear.

As I also said I never was...and still am not...looking for a "real life" partner on mfc.

I don't think you needed to be quite so aggressive...especially if you didn't read my posts properly! Thanks for the comments nonetheless.

 

[Gen]

But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

If this is what you're looking for, why not go to a dating site that links women from that part of the world with guys from your part of the world?

It's like the old saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me -- the first time, okay that's unfortunate. But if you go specifically to camgirls looking for marriage (or whatever it is you're looking for), don't be surprised when you come up empty handed and feel scammed when girls don't reciprocate what you want.

I thought I made it quite clear that I wasn't originally looking for a serious relationship...and I am not doing that now.

You didn't make it clear, actually. I interpreted your post about making a relationship and moving her to your country (with love not mattering) to mean a real life relationship or marriage. Can you explain what you meant by that, then?

 

[mynameisbob84]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

There are exceptions to every rule and I'm obviously in no position to tell you how well you knew any given model. But given that the model in question led you on and took advantage of your kindness and naivety, I'd posit you never knew her all that well, and only truly got to know the persona she chose to share with you. If you truly knew her, and she truly shared herself with you, you never would have sent her any money because you would have known that she was out to manipulate you and get as much out of you as she could before moving on to the next guy.

 

[Camgirl]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

I'm in love with you, bb.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I was talking specifically about cam girls...who as you pointed out...are feisty, strong, intelligent women. And I was just putting an idea out there. No one mentioned visiting poor countries to exploit vulnerable women and I would never condone such behaviour. Please don't twist my words to suit your own agenda.

I have plenty of real life friends...all I wanted from cam girls was a bit of fun with no commitment or hassles...I never planned to fall in love and if you had read my posts properly this would be pretty clear.

As I also said I never was...and still am not...looking for a "real life" partner on mfc.

I don't think you needed to be quite so aggressive...especially if you didn't read my posts properly! Thanks for the comments nonetheless.

Whether you actually go to their countries or not, approaching camgirls, especially ones you think might be poor/having a hard time in life with the hope that they might be so happy about you giving them money that they'll jump into your arms so they can be taken away from this situation is exactly the same thing. You can paint it in a nice light because from the male side it is nice, but from the woman's side, being so poor that you feel you have to have sex with someone you don't find attractive... it's a completely different story.

I did read your posts and I don't feel my post was remotely aggressive, it was just honest and upfront. You also really do sound like you're looking for a real life relationship from your posts... which is the only thing I have to go by. I'm sorry I'm not a mind reader, but everything you've written has led me to the impression that you're not happy with an only over cam relationship. Whether you want a serious relationship with these girls is regardless, you sound like you still want something in real life. You having real life friends has absolutely nothing to do with this situation.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

Yes, you are still being naive. I come on cam all the time with messy hair and no make up. I have in depth conversations with my regulars about myself and my real life. I shave my legs on cam. I really care about some of my regulars, but they don't really know me at all. They see a small side of me, a side I show them. They don't see what I'm like interacting with other people, they don't see how my family treats me or the look on my face when I see the people I love. They don't know about my little quirks, things that you could only know after spending a decent amount of time with someone. Even if I were genuinely interested in someone off the computer, I'd never truly be able to be in love with them until I met them and spent a decent amount of time with them.

When you meet people online you miss a lot of things, but your mind makes up the rest for you. In your head you design what you want to believe, and that person tells you what they want you to believe. I don't know if you've ever truly been in love before, but what you're describing is infatuation, it's liking and lusting after the idea of someone, but not truly loving them. Love is a whole different story. I also believe that true love is mutual, that you can feeling the beginnings of it and infatuation for someone who don't love you back, but to be truly in love with someone you have to have to have the sort of connection and relationship for those feelings to really develop.

For example, when I met my current boyfriend, I thought I loved him before I was, I actually fell in love with him several months down the line, and every day with him it has only grown stronger, it's mutual. It's different to times I thought I was in love before. I've thought I've been in love many times, but realised after it faded that wasn't what it was at all. When you experience real love, it's nothing like infatuation, it's something purer, something completely different to what they show in films. Sure infatuation may be there, but underneath it's so much more to that, it's like your soul is a puzzle piece and it fits perfectly together with that other person.

 

[KamikaziKitty]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Seriously Bob, I love everything you post. Can I keep you? Pwetty Pwease???? ray:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I'm in love with you, bb.

Seriously Bob, I love everything you post. Can I keep you? Pwetty Pwease???? ray:

Yes, Elton. Yes, I can. Yes. I. Can.

 

[gollum678]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

There are exceptions to every rule and I'm obviously in no position to tell you how well you knew any given model. But given that the model in question led you on and took advantage of your kindness and naivety, I'd posit you never knew her all that well, and only truly got to know the persona she chose to share with you. If you truly knew her, and she truly shared herself with you, you never would have sent her any money because you would have known that she was out to manipulate you and get as much out of you as she could before moving on to the next guy.

Very good point!!! I don't really like to be cynical about people. If I just don't believe anything these girls say to me I guess I should be safe!

 

[Camgirl]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

There are exceptions to every rule and I'm obviously in no position to tell you how well you knew any given model. But given that the model in question led you on and took advantage of your kindness and naivety, I'd posit you never knew her all that well, and only truly got to know the persona she chose to share with you. If you truly knew her, and she truly shared herself with you, you never would have sent her any money because you would have known that she was out to manipulate you and get as much out of you as she could before moving on to the next guy.

Very good point!!! I don't really like to be cynical about people. If I just don't believe anything these girls say to me I guess I should be safe!

Or you could just use the site for it's purpose. Entertainment.

I have a question, and maybe it has already been answered. If so I apologize, but who initiated the meet up/real life talk?

Here is my theory. If a model starts leading a guy on to meet up or talking about love, etc. it is usually because the member has started to profess deeper feelings, etc. for the model. The model is then faced with either being very blunt and losing a potentially high paying member or stringing them along for as long as possible to hold on to the member and the financial support they have become accustomed to. Let me be clear, I do not condone or agree with the latter, but the point I am trying to get at is: if a member is already a high tipper a model usually wouldn't usually need to "entice" them with hopes and dreams of meeting up UNLESS the member starts putting awkward and uncomfortable pressures on the model with their feelings of love and closeness. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE DESERVES TO BE MISLEAD, however, if all members tipped with the expectation of entertainment/product or just because, and nothing more, then there would be a lot less "I got scammed" threads of this sort.

 

[gollum678]

I was talking specifically about cam girls...who as you pointed out...are feisty, strong, intelligent women. And I was just putting an idea out there. No one mentioned visiting poor countries to exploit vulnerable women and I would never condone such behaviour. Please don't twist my words to suit your own agenda.

I have plenty of real life friends...all I wanted from cam girls was a bit of fun with no commitment or hassles...I never planned to fall in love and if you had read my posts properly this would be pretty clear.

As I also said I never was...and still am not...looking for a "real life" partner on mfc.

I don't think you needed to be quite so aggressive...especially if you didn't read my posts properly! Thanks for the comments nonetheless.

Whether you actually go to their countries or not, approaching camgirls, especially ones you think might be poor/having a hard time in life with the hope that they might be so happy about you giving them money that they'll jump into your arms so they can be taken away from this situation is exactly the same thing. You can paint it in a nice light because from the male side it is nice, but from the woman's side, being so poor that you feel you have to have sex with someone you don't find attractive... it's a completely different story.

I did read your posts and I don't feel my post was remotely aggressive, it was just honest and upfront. You also really do sound like you're looking for a real life relationship from your posts... which is the only thing I have to go by. I'm sorry I'm not a mind reader, but everything you've written has led me to the impression that you're not happy with an only over cam relationship. Whether you want a serious relationship with these girls is regardless, you sound like you still want something in real life. You having real life friends has absolutely nothing to do with this situation.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

Yes, you are still being naive. I come on cam all the time with messy hair and no make up. I have in depth conversations with my regulars about myself and my real life. I shave my legs on cam. I really care about some of my regulars, but they don't really know me at all. They see a small side of me, a side I show them. They don't see what I'm like interacting with other people, they don't see how my family treats me or the look on my face when I see the people I love. They don't know about my little quirks, things that you could only know after spending a decent amount of time with someone. Even if I were genuinely interested in someone off the computer, I'd never truly be able to be in love with them until I met them and spent a decent amount of time with them.

When you meet people online you miss a lot of things, but your mind makes up the rest for you. In your head you design what you want to believe, and that person tells you what they want you to believe. I don't know if you've ever truly been in love before, but what you're describing is infatuation, it's liking and lusting after the idea of someone, but not truly loving them. Love is a whole different story. I also believe that true love is mutual, that you can feeling the beginnings of it and infatuation for someone who don't love you back, but to be truly in love with someone you have to have to have the sort of connection and relationship for those feelings to really develop.

For example, when I met my current boyfriend, I thought I loved him before I was, I actually fell in love with him several months down the line, and every day with him it has only grown stronger, it's mutual. It's different to times I thought I was in love before. I've thought I've been in love many times, but realised after it faded that wasn't what it was at all. When you experience real love, it's nothing like infatuation, it's something purer, something completely different to what they show in films. Sure infatuation may be there, but underneath it's so much more to that, it's like your soul is a puzzle piece and it fits perfectly together with that other person.

At the risk of repeating myself...I say again my intention was never to have a "real life" relationship with any of the cam girls I met. I never expected to feel that way (it was completely out of the blue)...and I will never let it happen again!

You make many excellent points! I suppose I was "infatuated" rather than "in love". After leaving a long-term relationship a couple of years ago that was stifling me I suppose the power of the emotion just over-whelmed me. Naive, blind, stupid...call it what you will...I know I can't trust any of the girls now. I also know you have to put up with a lot of shit from some of the guys too. I still don't think anyone should be manipulated and exploited that way. On either side of the camera. And I that won't change.

Thanks so much for putting in the effort to communicate with me. I do appreciate it.

 

[Camgirl]

I was talking specifically about cam girls...who as you pointed out...are feisty, strong, intelligent women. And I was just putting an idea out there. No one mentioned visiting poor countries to exploit vulnerable women and I would never condone such behaviour. Please don't twist my words to suit your own agenda.

I have plenty of real life friends...all I wanted from cam girls was a bit of fun with no commitment or hassles...I never planned to fall in love and if you had read my posts properly this would be pretty clear.

As I also said I never was...and still am not...looking for a "real life" partner on mfc.

I don't think you needed to be quite so aggressive...especially if you didn't read my posts properly! Thanks for the comments nonetheless.

Whether you actually go to their countries or not, approaching camgirls, especially ones you think might be poor/having a hard time in life with the hope that they might be so happy about you giving them money that they'll jump into your arms so they can be taken away from this situation is exactly the same thing. You can paint it in a nice light because from the male side it is nice, but from the woman's side, being so poor that you feel you have to have sex with someone you don't find attractive... it's a completely different story.

I did read your posts and I don't feel my post was remotely aggressive, it was just honest and upfront. You also really do sound like you're looking for a real life relationship from your posts... which is the only thing I have to go by. I'm sorry I'm not a mind reader, but everything you've written has led me to the impression that you're not happy with an only over cam relationship. Whether you want a serious relationship with these girls is regardless, you sound like you still want something in real life. You having real life friends has absolutely nothing to do with this situation.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

Yes, you are still being naive. I come on cam all the time with messy hair and no make up. I have in depth conversations with my regulars about myself and my real life. I shave my legs on cam. I really care about some of my regulars, but they don't really know me at all. They see a small side of me, a side I show them. They don't see what I'm like interacting with other people, they don't see how my family treats me or the look on my face when I see the people I love. They don't know about my little quirks, things that you could only know after spending a decent amount of time with someone. Even if I were genuinely interested in someone off the computer, I'd never truly be able to be in love with them until I met them and spent a decent amount of time with them.

When you meet people online you miss a lot of things, but your mind makes up the rest for you. In your head you design what you want to believe, and that person tells you what they want you to believe. I don't know if you've ever truly been in love before, but what you're describing is infatuation, it's liking and lusting after the idea of someone, but not truly loving them. Love is a whole different story. I also believe that true love is mutual, that you can feeling the beginnings of it and infatuation for someone who don't love you back, but to be truly in love with someone you have to have to have the sort of connection and relationship for those feelings to really develop.

For example, when I met my current boyfriend, I thought I loved him before I was, I actually fell in love with him several months down the line, and every day with him it has only grown stronger, it's mutual. It's different to times I thought I was in love before. I've thought I've been in love many times, but realised after it faded that wasn't what it was at all. When you experience real love, it's nothing like infatuation, it's something purer, something completely different to what they show in films. Sure infatuation may be there, but underneath it's so much more to that, it's like your soul is a puzzle piece and it fits perfectly together with that other person.

At the risk of repeating myself...I say again my intention was never to have a "real life" relationship with any of the cam girls I met. I never expected to feel that way (it was completely out of the blue)...and I will never let it happen again!

You make many excellent points! I suppose I was "infatuated" rather than "in love". After leaving a long-term relationship a couple of years ago that was stifling me I suppose the power of the emotion just over-whelmed me. Naive, blind, stupid...call it what you will...I know I can't trust any of the girls now. I also know you have to put up with a lot of shit from some of the guys too. I still don't think anyone should be manipulated and exploited that way. On either side of the camera. And I that won't change.

Thanks so much for putting in the effort to communicate with me. I do appreciate it.

Nevermind. I misread your post...I see it wasn't your intention.... Gotcha!

 

[gollum678]

- I've said it before, I'll say it again; MFC should have a disclaimer/warning pop up when members log on reminding them not to "fall in love" with the models.

- It's always worth remembering that when you ('you' being any member who develops unhealthy feelings for a cam girl and not specifically the OP) "fall in love" with a cam girl, you're essentially falling for someone who doesn't exist in the real world. I can kinda see why so many doods fall into the trap of thinking they're in love with a cam girl - they're beautiful, they're witty and funny and fun to be around, they're popular, they're completely comfortable with their sexuality and their kinks, they think nothing of walking around their house with their lovely naked boobies exposed and glistening with baby oil, they're really adept at getting themselves off for those nights where their partners are too tired to fuck or are sacked out on the couch watching football or playing computer games or out drinking with friends, they're independently wealthy, and they're eager to make your wildest sexual fantasies become a reality. Near enough every cam girl is the perfect woman, right? Except that's not who they really are.
On cam, they're projecting a hyper-sexualised, fault-free, care-free version of themselves for the purposes of entertaining members and making money to pay their bills. In their every day lives, they're just regular people. They snore, they fart, they moan, they cry, they worry, they argue, they get the shits and stink out the bathroom, they get drunk and pass out and have to be carried home, they're not always in the mood for sex, they leave dirty laundry strewn about the bedroom floor, they wake up with bags under their eyes and drool hanging out the side of their mouth and smudged, fudged make-up sticking to their face because they were too tired to remove it the night before... and that's the person that their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives ultimately fall in love with, and that's the person that members seldom ever get to know. It's always the abstract, sexual entity with smatterings of legitimate personality traits and likes and dislikes that members fall for, and not the girls themselves.

Well...I don't necessarily think this is entirely true...the camgirl I was "in love" with and I would Skype occasionally...sometimes she would be waxing her legs...sometimes she might have just woken up and still be in bed...no make-up, messy hair etc., etc. I think it depends how much of her life and self that person is willing to show you...but I think you can get to know the real person? Or is this still naive?

There are exceptions to every rule and I'm obviously in no position to tell you how well you knew any given model. But given that the model in question led you on and took advantage of your kindness and naivety, I'd posit you never knew her all that well, and only truly got to know the persona she chose to share with you. If you truly knew her, and she truly shared herself with you, you never would have sent her any money because you would have known that she was out to manipulate you and get as much out of you as she could before moving on to the next guy.

Very good point!!! I don't really like to be cynical about people. If I just don't believe anything these girls say to me I guess I should be safe!

Or you could just use the site for it's purpose. Entertainment.

I have a question, and maybe it has already been answered. If so I apologize, but who initiated the meet up/real life talk?

Here is my theory. If a model starts leading a guy on to meet up or talking about love, etc. it is usually because the member has started to profess deeper feelings, etc. for the model. The model is then faced with either being very blunt and losing a potentially high paying member or stringing them along for as long as possible to hold on to the member and the financial support they have become accustomed to. Let me be clear, I do not condone or agree with the latter, but the point I am trying to get at is: if a member is already a high tipper a model usually wouldn't usually need to "entice" them with hopes and dreams of meeting up UNLESS the member starts putting awkward and uncomfortable pressures on the model with their feelings of love and closeness. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE DESERVES TO BE MISLEAD, however, if all members tipped with the expectation of entertainment/product or just because, and nothing more, then there would be a lot less "I got scammed" threads of this sort.

Excellent theory!!! I was always a pretty generous tipper...well what I consider generous...maybe 2-3000 tokens a week. I don't know if the models would think that is generous or not? I probably did start letting her know how I felt...I clearly remember her saying "...well if it keeps going like this I'm sure we'll meet up one day". And later on " I am going to visit my parents in February...I could meet you after that". Yeah...whatever!

Yes I agree with everything you say...I am a pretty passionate kind of person and sometimes my emotions get the better of me...well they did in this case anyway :?

 

[gollum678]

But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living. Love doesn't have to be involved. As long as things are all out in the open in and both parties know what is going on I don't have an issue with this. Could be a win-win no?

If this is what you're looking for, why not go to a dating site that links women from that part of the world with guys from your part of the world?

It's like the old saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me -- the first time, okay that's unfortunate. But if you go specifically to camgirls looking for marriage (or whatever it is you're looking for), don't be surprised when you come up empty handed and feel scammed when girls don't reciprocate what you want.

I thought I made it quite clear that I wasn't originally looking for a serious relationship...and I am not doing that now.

You didn't make it clear, actually. I interpreted your post about making a relationship and moving her to your country (with love not mattering) to mean a real life relationship or marriage. Can you explain what you meant by that, then?

Did you read the whole thread or just that post? That was a hypothetical. Something that might happen...for some people. If you inferred that is what I was doing you grabbed the wrong end of the stick. If read in context of the whole thread I think it's perfectly clear.

 

[Gen]

Did you read the whole thread or just that post? That was a hypothetical. Something that might happen...for some people. If you inferred that is what I was doing you grabbed the wrong end of the stick. If read in context of the whole thread I think it's perfectly clear.

I read the whole thread, and it seems I wasn't the only person who read that post in that way. Regardless, sorry if I read it incorrectly but holding out for hypotheticals and "someday, maybe, for some people" a few days after feeling scammed by a similar situation doesn't seem like a good idea. :twocents-02cents:

 

[MemberEd]

But I'm sure there is a proportion of girls who would be happy to form an honest relationship as a way to a better life and moving to a better country with a higher standard of living.

As long as your thinking is still along these lines, I think that, you will very likely be getting in trouble again. People are people, just because they grew up in a different country, poorer or richer, they still look at most things pretty much the same. People in general where ever they are don't like the idea of other people looking down their noses at them. I can't think of too many things that would make a woman dislike you (and maybe not feel guilty about taking advantage of you) more than the idea that you think you are buying her. :twocents-02cents:

 

[gollum678]

Come on guys...you are still misunderstanding me. I am not saying I am treating anyone like that. Again I emphasize that was not and is not what I was looking for...I just said I'm sure it happens for some people NOT that I was hoping it would happen to me!!!!! I was certainly NOT trying to "buy" anyone's affection. I just happened to feel very strongly for this particular person and thought she felt the same...yes I was an idiot...but there was never anything malicious or manipulative on my part. I thought I was helping out someone I cared for and who cared for me...and made the mistake of believing the things she said to me. Fortunately for me I suppose she wasn't quite a good enough liar that I didn't have my suspicions.

And so I have learned a valuable lesson...and I move on.

And with the things you have all said I certainly understand things a lot better...so I'm glad I came here.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Ok, fair enough that you don't actually feel like that. The way you were wording it really sounded like you were hoping for more. Mentioning how you're sure there are a proportion of girls who'd be happy to have a relationship and move to another country for a "better life" really did imply that was what you were hoping for rather than you saying in a hypothetical situation. Please don't jump down our throats, this isn't us being crazy jumping to conclusions, reading through the posts it sounds like you're making it pretty clear that you're interested in a real life relationship. You've now said this isn't actually the case so I'll take your word for it.

Excellent theory!!! I was always a pretty generous tipper...well what I consider generous...maybe 2-3000 tokens a week. I don't know if the models would think that is generous or not? I probably did start letting her know how I felt...I clearly remember her saying "...well if it keeps going like this I'm sure we'll meet up one day". And later on " I am going to visit my parents in February...I could meet you after that". Yeah...whatever!

I'd say you were a very generous tipper. It's hard for me to tell her feelings on all this or what it was like from her side. On acf I hear of many many stories of models put with the difficult situation of a high tipper getting too attached. They don't want to openly tell them no, but they don't know how to continue without leading them on. I think many models have been guilty of leading members on, sometimes without even realising it. This model could have been planning from the start to manipulate you, or she could have just gone with it, maybe even liking you for real, then you pushing her for more and more attention/trying to pursue the relationship might eventually have become to much and may have been causing her stress leading her to end it completely. It's something you won't ever know. Members, especially ones who think they've fallen for models, can be really difficult to be around. They can be irrational, demanding, intrusive, even jealous and controlling.
Personally this is why I'm pretty brutally honest full stop. I don't want to deal with any of that stuff so from the start I make things clear.

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

I think on top of studios often forcing models to lead members on, this is also another reason why members get very easily drawn in. To me the

"...well if it keeps going like this I'm sure we'll meet up one day". And later on " I am going to visit my parents in February...I could meet you after that".

Sounds like a blow off. It sounds like a "maybe in the distant distant future there may be a chance of us meeting" rather than a "I'm really eager to meet you!". Of course, a member hearing that would probably imagine in his mind it was her sounding eager and giving him the green flag. To me it's all very vague, like when you say to someone you don't like that much "lets go for coffee and catch up some time!" you both know you're never going to keep those plans, but you say it to keep up the illusion.
Because of this I think members like you who maybe can't handle the whole fantasy with a girl pretending she likes you, probably best to stick to blunter models. Most Uk girls are pretty realistic, myself included. Many girls off here are also just as honest with their true feelings.

Some models definitely get members falling for them and getting obsessive with them more than others do. It's not to do with popularity, it's to do with how straight up you are with people. Some girls are really polite and friendly and find it really difficult to be straight with someone being a bit forward/pushy. Some girls from the start might as well have a "no stalkers, I won't tolerate it" sign above them. Guys who have tendency's to fall for girls tend to either get a grip or they move on. I'd have a look for girls who are definitely very honest and upfront and even have reputations for it. I think fairly safe to try watching some girls you like from this forum. I'm not saying don't watch Romanian girls full stop, but be careful, it's often a different style of camming, one that if you're someone who cannot handle it may end up repeatedly getting hurt.

 

[gollum678]

Ok, fair enough that you don't actually feel like that. The way you were wording it really sounded like you were hoping for more. Mentioning how you're sure there are a proportion of girls who'd be happy to have a relationship and move to another country for a "better life" really did imply that was what you were hoping for rather than you saying in a hypothetical situation. Please don't jump down our throats, this isn't us being crazy jumping to conclusions, reading through the posts it sounds like you're making it pretty clear that you're interested in a real life relationship. You've now said this isn't actually the case so I'll take your word for it.

Excellent theory!!! I was always a pretty generous tipper...well what I consider generous...maybe 2-3000 tokens a week. I don't know if the models would think that is generous or not? I probably did start letting her know how I felt...I clearly remember her saying "...well if it keeps going like this I'm sure we'll meet up one day". And later on " I am going to visit my parents in February...I could meet you after that". Yeah...whatever!

I'd say you were a very generous tipper. It's hard for me to tell her feelings on all this or what it was like from her side. On acf I hear of many many stories of models put with the difficult situation of a high tipper getting too attached. They don't want to openly tell them no, but they don't know how to continue without leading them on. I think many models have been guilty of leading members on, sometimes without even realising it. This model could have been planning from the start to manipulate you, or she could have just gone with it, maybe even liking you for real, then you pushing her for more and more attention/trying to pursue the relationship might eventually have become to much and may have been causing her stress leading her to end it completely. It's something you won't ever know. Members, especially ones who think they've fallen for models, can be really difficult to be around. They can be irrational, demanding, intrusive, even jealous and controlling.
Personally this is why I'm pretty brutally honest full stop. I don't want to deal with any of that stuff so from the start I make things clear.

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

I think on top of studios often forcing models to lead members on, this is also another reason why members get very easily drawn in. To me the

"...well if it keeps going like this I'm sure we'll meet up one day". And later on " I am going to visit my parents in February...I could meet you after that".

Sounds like a blow off. It sounds like a "maybe in the distant distant future there may be a chance of us meeting" rather than a "I'm really eager to meet you!". Of course, a member hearing that would probably imagine in his mind it was her sounding eager and giving him the green flag. To me it's all very vague, like when you say to someone you don't like that much "lets go for coffee and catch up some time!" you both know you're never going to keep those plans, but you say it to keep up the illusion.
Because of this I think members like you who maybe can't handle the whole fantasy with a girl pretending she likes you, probably best to stick to blunter models. Most Uk girls are pretty realistic, myself included. Many girls off here are also just as honest with their true feelings.

Some models definitely get members falling for them and getting obsessive with them more than others do. It's not to do with popularity, it's to do with how straight up you are with people. Some girls are really polite and friendly and find it really difficult to be straight with someone being a bit forward/pushy. Some girls from the start might as well have a "no stalkers, I won't tolerate it" sign above them. Guys who have tendency's to fall for girls tend to either get a grip or they move on. I'd have a look for girls who are definitely very honest and upfront and even have reputations for it. I think fairly safe to try watching some girls you like from this forum. I'm not saying don't watch Romanian girls full stop, but be careful, it's often a different style of camming, one that if you're someone who cannot handle it may end up repeatedly getting hurt.

Thanks so much again Isabella...after reading that I really don't know whether it was deliberate emotional manipulation to get the maximum amount of tokens, cash and gifts out of me...or something a bit more complex with a cultural component. The cynic in me thinks the former but the part of me that likes to see the good in people would prefer to believe the latter. Either way I am much the wiser now...I am still surprised it happened in the first place really...and it certainly won't be happening again.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

Can't say I've noticed these cultural differences you speak of. Romanian models act the same as models from anywhere else.

 

[gollum678]

May I just leave you with this:


"There are different grades of love, different shades of love, different scents and tastes of love. It is not like happiness or misery, qualities that seem dull or limited. Love is limitless...You can love one person one way and another person another way and your store of love, all the different loves, is never diminished." Simon Mawer.

Go well one and all

 

[IsabellaSnow]

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

Can't say I've noticed these cultural differences you speak of. Romanian models act the same as models from anywhere else.

Maybe particular models that you spend time with that's the case, it's not true for all, just like not every "western" woman is really blunt/honest to the point of seeming rude. This isn't an area I really have loads of knowledge in, but from reading posts on this and other forums, hearing the things members say about why they do and don't visit Romanian girls or girls from similar areas, and from knowing a fair amount of women from that culture it definitely does seem that there are culture differences and different attitudes towards both men and women. I have heard many men complaining about American/British models basically because we're ego killing bitches, and how Romanian models will be nice and sweet and nurture the fragile male ego. Though I don't think this is true for all models, seeing as this sort of thing keeps coming up there must be some truth to it.

 

[RedHerby]

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

Translated to business concepts it means that the Rommies are offering more value for money and have a better price/quality ratio

 

[IsabellaSnow]

One thing with Romanian girls, though most of them aren't "scammers" or the kinds of girls who'll deliberately lead dudes on, there is also a culture difference. Romanian girls tend to be nicer to men, more ego stroking, less likely to be honest about their true feelings and more likely to say things that'll make the man feel good. It's one of the many reasons why they're very popular and why certain types of men adore them.

Translated to business concepts it means that the Rommies are offering more value for money and have a better price/quality ratio

Depends entirely on what you're looking for in a model But as there are far more Romanian/eastern european camgirls than there are from anywhere else, I would imagine you can find some who are very good value for money! Depending on what you see as "good value".

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Maybe particular models that you spend time with that's the case, it's not true for all, just like not every "western" woman is really blunt/honest to the point of seeming rude. This isn't an area I really have loads of knowledge in, but from reading posts on this and other forums, hearing the things members say about why they do and don't visit Romanian girls or girls from similar areas, and from knowing a fair amount of women from that culture it definitely does seem that there are culture differences and different attitudes towards both men and women. I have heard many men complaining about American/British models basically because we're ego killing bitches, and how Romanian models will be nice and sweet and nurture the fragile male ego. Though I don't think this is true for all models, seeing as this sort of thing keeps coming up there must be some truth to it.

Weird. This is like the exact opposite of how I see it. American/British models are known for being super nice and sweet but Romanians are known for being bitchy/more real. Dudes are always bitching about Romanian models being too honest/blunt.