File this under "R" for Ridicustupid

[gingerhobbit]

Band teacher gets outed for having done some internet porn and the school puts her on "administrative leave." She knows what's coming and just resigns.

"Her bosses insisted Sundman’s side job was out of character, with Kent City Schools superintendent George Joseph calling her “a great employee.” He said school officials do not believe Sundman was ever sexually involved with a student, and are unsure if her porn career coincided with her time in the classroom. She worked for the district for eight years and was earning a $50,000 salary by the time she left, records show.

So many things wrong there. So, she couldn't have done some porn and still be a good employee? And just because she did porn, people automatically ask if she ever fucked a student? And somebody who's done the job for eight years without a problem gets suspended for stuff that didn't have anything to do with the school?

That is ridicustupid.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...secret-porn-career-revealed-article-1.2363943

 

[JerryBoBerry]

So, she couldn't have done some porn and still be a good employee?

Seems not according to Ohio.

Licensure Code of Professional Conduct for Ohio Educators

Professional Behavior
Conduct unbecoming to the profession includes, but is not limited to, the following actions:

(Section 1, page 2, part g)
Using technology to intentionally host or post improper or inappropriate material that could reasonably be accessed by the school community.


DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS
(Section 1, page 8)
If an educator violates Principle, the presumption for the appropriate range of disciplinary action is the following:
i. Suspension (1 day to 1 year) of a license depending upon the violation of the testing procedure;
ii. Suspension of a license until the educator comes into compliance with the required background checks;
iii. Letter of admonishment up to revocation/ denial of a license for other acts unbecoming to the professional conduct of educators.

 

[gingerhobbit]

Using technology to intentionally host or post improper or inappropriate material that could reasonably be accessed by the school community.

I bet you a dollar any decent lawyer could argue that she had a good-faith belief the material could not be "reasonably accessed" by her students, since porn is legally not available to anyone under 18. Might not fly just in common sense terms, but the lawyer could make a pretty good legal argument.

This just seems like a good example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

 

[AerynShade]

It was stressed repeatedly over the years and in multiple classes I took when in college to become a teacher that there were certain things that I, as a teacher, was expected to never do. These things were: posting "risqué or revealing" photos online anywhere (including dating sites or facebook), "allowing" nude photos to be or have ever been taken of us, drinking alcohol in public places like restaurants, buying alcohol or cigarettes at grocery stores, any mention of dates or dating (other adults) at school even just to other teachers in case a student might overhear. I had professors laugh when talking about how if any of us had been strippers or in porn we should just change majors right then because we weren't fit for the classroom.

 

[SaffronBurke]

buying alcohol or cigarettes at grocery stores,

Ha, just this summer, I saw my high school English teacher sprint across a grocery store with a case of beer on his shoulder. Guess I should've reported him instead of laughing?

 

[gingerhobbit]

It was stressed repeatedly over the years and in multiple classes I took when in college to become a teacher that there were certain things that I, as a teacher, was expected to never do. These things were: posting "risqué or revealing" photos online anywhere (including dating sites or facebook), "allowing" nude photos to be or have ever been taken of us, drinking alcohol in public places like restaurants, buying alcohol or cigarettes at grocery stores, any mention of dates or dating (other adults) at school even just to other teachers in case a student might overhear. I had professors laugh when talking about how if any of us had been strippers or in porn we should just change majors right then because we weren't fit for the classroom.

Sounds like they expect people in the teaching profession to live as if this were the 1880s.

Meanwhile, parents snort coke in front of the kids and leave loaded guns laying around.

Far as I'm concerned, if the teacher isn't touching the students and is good at the job, leave her alone.

 

[Gen]

I think it's unfortunate, but kind of understandable, or at the very least, expected. Like Aeryn said, teachers are told very clearly what they can't do if they want to be teachers. Likewise I think it's incredibly naive when people get into porn (or camming, or any sex work, but especially these two where your actions are recorded) and then are surprised that this happens. Is it fair? Maybe not. But I'm flabbergasted how many girls come on here and then freak out about being recorded and that they didn't realize/consider that could have future ramifications.

That said, it does suck that something you do as a young person can come back to bite you in the butt so much. But anyone who's just coming of age to cam/do porn now has grown up in the era of being repeatedly told "literally everything you do online will be there forever" so sometimes it's hard to be sympathetic to the "omg what people can record these things I put online" at the same time as they're torrenting movies filmed in the theatre or whatever. (As in, how could you not realize the permanence of the internet...but that's another topic because this lady doesn't sound like she was unaware of the risks. Just a tangent.)

Related but also shitty: a girl I know recently shared a job opportunity for an outreach worker, someone working in the community with street-based sex workers. One of the conditions of employment was that you had to have been "exited" from sex work for at least one consecutive year. So, while they're attempting to help people, they're unwilling to actually employ someone who might be looking to exit and find regular employment. It definitely does create a system where once you've become a sex worker, exiting can be hugely difficult because nobody wants to hire a sex worker. Like there's constant pressure to quit sex work and yet what are you gonna do once you've quit? Your options are definitely limited. (This is a big issue up here where sex workers would get arrested for solicitation, but in order to pay their fines, would have to go back to sex work...and it becomes a huge cycle.)

 

[JerryBoBerry]

On a side note, I bet MFC is glad they didn't get mentioned in yet another news article, since her video still being sold on their site!

 

[Guy]

Considering how much our educational system is struggling and how it is becoming harder to find good teachers in many school districts, the last thing they should worry about is if a teacher has a history of doing porn! If her students look her up and come across porn videos of her, you know who's fault that is? Its the parents' fault for not installing parental control software on their kid's computers and devices! (studies show that most parents do not use parental control software.)

 

[fandango]

I think its ridiculous that any past jobs can be held against you, as long as whatever job you previously did was legal then it should be illegal to hold it against someone. The fact that teachers cant even by alcohol or cigarettes is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Basically they want to send all the kids to convents and have the be taught by nuns.

If someone is good at their job then I dont care what they have done in the past or what they get up to in their private lives (as long as its all legal of course).

 

[SaffronBurke]

I think a lot of the issue boils down to parents expecting the world to help them raise their child. Uh, that's YOUR job. Nobody else's. People complain about entertainers doing things that "set a bad example" or "being a bad role model". 1. Their job is to entertain, not set an example. 2.Why are you letting your child see it? Change the TV channel. Change the radio station. Install parental controls. Explain to them why someone is doing something and why they shouldn't. Be a damn parent. My mom wasn't the best mom by a mile, but she did those things at least (minus parental controls, we weren't allowed to touch the computer so that wasn't an issue).

A teacher buying a pack of smokes with their groceries, having a cocktail while out to dinner, or stripping or doing porn to pay for college isn't setting a bad example for students. They're exercising their freedom as an adult to do things that adults are allowed to do, and their job isn't to set an example, it's to educate their students. Unless they're endangering their students, it shouldn't matter.

Unfortunately, society at large doesn't quite agree with that.

 

[dilligaf0]

I think its ridiculous that any past jobs can be held against you, as long as whatever job you previously did was legal then it should be illegal to hold it against someone. The fact that teachers cant even by alcohol or cigarettes is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Basically they want to send all the kids to convents and have the be taught by nuns.

If someone is good at their job then I dont care what they have done in the past or what they get up to in their private lives (as long as its all legal of course).

Just as ridiculous as employers can run a credit check on you to decide if they will hire you.
Job qualification means nothing anymore.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

I bet you a dollar any decent lawyer could argue that she had a good-faith belief the material could not be "reasonably accessed" by her students,

Doesn't say "students". It says "school community". Different.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Just as ridiculous as employers can run a credit check on you to decide if they will hire you.
Job qualification means nothing anymore.

But.... if you have bad credit, you might STEAL from your job to pay off your debt!

Instead of, you know, the real reason you're trying to get a job, and earning the money for it. Cause all us folks with bad credit are thieves. Yep. Totally gonna rob the place blind so we can pay off our debt.