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Ok that didn't turn out how I wanted it.

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I wasn't about to sit through that whole thing, with the same smug (albeit younger than usual) talking heads, and a really horrible host (how does someone with that voice and those horrible interview skills get that job?) repeating the same byline that surrounds any and every form of adult entertainment -- that it's a flimsy front for human trafficking and child sex slavery. It's a mythology that gets built up around this world because, since this is sex and pornography, it is already a dirty subject, and what's better than scandalous? More scandalous.

I'm certainly not going to deny that what they're talking about is a reality, but the problem that I have with it is that it ALWAYS takes on a sort of shame-based tone which starts at the fact that it's a business that takes advantage of those base desires that everyone has, but no polite person should acknowledge, and builds upon it by pointing out that we're likely masturbating to victims of horrible circumstance (whether that's true or not) and we're all going to burn in hell for consuming this sort of material! After all, she may seem happy, but how can we know it's not all smiles and cum shows forced under duress!? Creating a victim culture that trades freely in histrionics doesn't change shit. Meanwhile, the very real shady aspects of this culture goes completely ignored in order to paint every Romanian camgirl as a money-launderer, every Ukrainian as a slave owned by the Russian mob, and every Thai camgirl as a ten-year-old boy.

And then the people who are actually in it wonder why this business attracts so many misogynistic, manipulative fuck-bags. It doesn't have to be that way, but the theme of the conversation has to change. The business is ugly from the top down, and that isn't the fault of the user who finds a model he likes, or a model who gets into the business for legitimate reasons. As long as the people running the show are still able to foster a prevailing culture where being treated as subhuman and being screwed over -- no matter whether you're a performer or a consumer -- isn't just accepted but expected, then what's the incentive to stop the more evil extremes from coming about? This culture is going to continue to be seen as dirty and dark and salacious because nobody is bothering to point out that it doesn't have to be that way.

These conversations don't help things. The fact that it's a single camgirl voice surrounded by six browbeating dissenters should tell us that we're not really getting a balanced picture.
 
"Women who are lucky enough to live in the US, Western Europe... It could be a pretty easy, straight forward way to make money with relatively low labour." @SamFBIDDLE. From hearing that, I already know all of his points will be brilliantly valid.

They keep interrupting Cinnamon saying that she's privileged and "charmed" and not the norm, specifically referring to Streamate and MyFreeCams. Completely disregarding anything she is saying and going on about how shady the owners of both those sites are and how many underage workers there are on both.

Then they are referring to the "emotional state" and poverty that forces girls to cam even even when they have "technically" consented is ridiculous. I love how they are telling women that they don't "really" know what they are doing and that it isn't healthy to do something for money that you would rather not work that job. When I was working minimum wage and when I was working at the job I went to college for, I hated it so much. I had the sort of freak outs they are referring to. Society FORCES you to have to work. It would be great and dandy if we all could just sit around and get paid to watch TV but it doesn't work that way. I'd much rather make money from my own bedroom working my own hours and fucking my own girlfriend even though I'd RATHER be watching Netflix.

Cinnamon is so on point! Just what I was saying about the whole minimum wage, Burger King-McDonalds thing. Jessica isn't getting what she said at all. What twelve-year-old girl is on Streamate? They just kept interrupting Cinnamon and not letting her make her extremely valid points. This was pathetically one-sided and everyone was too dense to understand anything.
 
Cinnamon was the sole voice of reason there, and the dipshit host cut her off at every opportunity to let someone else spout white noise.

I pretty much agree with everything Cinnamon said. The overwhelming majority of cam girls aren't forced to work on cam sites, aren't being trafficked and aren't being exploited. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm willing to bet the majority of cam girls are working on cam sites because they'd rather be doing that than doing anything else.

Using the American model having a breakdown as an example of a western woman being "forced" into working a job she doesn't enjoy... I'm sorry, but that's fucking ridiculous and undermines the plight of the unfortunate few who actually are being forced into camming against their will. There's a fucking wealth of opportunities available to American women and if they're not enjoying camming, they're free to go work elsewhere. If a model chooses to stick at camming because of the money, or the work hours, or whatever else instead of finding another job - even if it's a minimum wage McJob - that's her choice.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
Using the American model having a breakdown as an example of a western woman being "forced" into working a job she doesn't enjoy... I'm sorry, but that's fucking ridiculous and undermines the plight of the unfortunate few who actually are being forced into camming against their will. There's a fucking wealth of opportunities available to American women and if they're not enjoying camming, they're free to go work elsewhere. If a model chooses to stick at camming because of the money, or the work hours, or whatever else instead of finding another job - even if it's a minimum wage McJob - that's her choice.

And people have break downs and walk out on exploitative McJobs all the time. BUT ITS SEXUAL THEREFORE WE ARE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IT AND MAKE A HUGE DEAL OUT OF IT.

Maybe they should have a segment about the single mom who works 16 hour shifts under an abusive manager in unsafe conditions but wont quit because she couldn't go to college and won't be able to get another job to support her kids. But nooooo if she becomes a stripper on the internet then we can wring our hands about how exploited she is.
 
lol@American women being "forced" to do anything. They can become doctors, lawyers, military, pretty much anything they want. Some choose sex work, so what?
 
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I actually did take the time to listen to the whole thing. I agree that Sinnamon Love was very articulate and the host Nancy Reid was pretty awful (but she is hosting Huff Post live not anchoring CNN).

The central point of Sam's Gizmode article was that camming in developing countries was far more exploitative than the mostly independent camgirls in the US and Europe. Everything I've observed from the crazy situation with Mila in Thailand, to the periodic issues to Filipino camgirls, to the large number of Romanian and other Eastern European girls working for studios leads me to believe that his reporting is accurate. Sure there is plenty of money to be made by camming from this countries, but I wouldn't be surprised if many camgirls from the developing world, see a very small share of it.

But lets face everybody on this thread is from developed country, as are the large majority of ACF members. There is no easy way for us to know what is going on in the rest of the world. So I have no idea if the overwhelming number of cam girls are doing this on their own free will or are being coerced or doing so out of economic necessity. Although it does appear that most top models are doing because they want to.

By and large most of the guys who run porn empires are pretty slimy, and ethically challenged. They base their operations in place like Cyprus or Malta with very loose reporting requirement and many have had trouble with tax evasion, drug charges etc.

Anybody who's been served a drink before the legal age, bought a cigarette or gotten into an R or X rated movie without parent before 17/18 knows that doing stuff while underage isn't particularly difficult. I'd be very surprised if most Cam site operator really care what age a girl is as long as they have a piece of paper that they can point to that say "Hey she told us she was 18, and give us an id".
 
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I actually did take the time to listen to the whole thing. I agree that Sinnamon Love was very articulate and the host Nancy Reid was pretty awful (but she is hosting Huff Post live not anchoring CNN).

The central point of Sam's Gizmode article was that camming in developing countries was far more exploitative than the mostly independent camgirls in the US and Europe. Everything I've observed from the crazy situation with Mila in Thailand, to the periodic issues to Filipino camgirls, to the large number of Romanian and other Eastern European girls working for studios leads me to believe that his reporting is accurate. Sure there is plenty of money to be made by camming from this countries, but I wouldn't be surprised if many camgirls from the developing world, see a very small share of it.

But lets face everybody on this thread is from developed country, as are the large majority of ACF members. There is no easy way for us to know what is going on in the rest of the world. So I have no idea if the overwhelming number of cam girls are doing this on their own free will or are being coerced or doing so out of economic necessity. Although it does appear that most top models are doing because they want to.

By and large most of the guys who run porn empires are pretty slimy, and ethically challenged. They base their operations in place like Cyprus or Malta with very loose reporting requirement and many have had trouble with tax evasion, drug charges etc.

Anybody who's been served a drink before the legal age, bought a cigarette or gotten into an R or X rated movie without parent before 17/18 knows that doing stuff while underage isn't particularly difficult. I'd be very surprised if most Cam site operator really care what age a girl is as long as they have a piece of paper that they can point to that say "Hey she told us she was 18, and give us an id".

You've put my point more astutely than I did, I think. It's undeniable that these problems do exist. I just think that the tenor that these conversations always take is the wrong way to approach it. It's that sort of First World guilt that generally comes accompanied with statements like, "how can you be happy when there's people starving in Africa?!" So much of the reason why there are all of these disturbing situations is because people come in expecting for those situations to be present, to the point where they'll invent them when they aren't readily found. That's not fair to the business, and it's that prejudice of sliminess that helps keep the slimy guys running the show. From what I've seen, nobody ever really seems to want to come into this business from a place of high ethics, but I really can't imagine that running a camsite ethically could be much more difficult than doing it the way it's always been done. If legitimate businesses can clean up stuff like gambling and recreational substances, then why not sex?
 
the interview was terrible and i was really annoyed that no one really explored properly the point that just cos we're not all "HAPPY HOOKERS" and LOVE our jobs and some of us are doing it out of economic necessity isn't something terrible.

I feel like im constantly under pressure to say "i love my job" and "i don't need to do this"

at this point in time, to support the lifestyle we currently have - if i quit camming and tried another career we would be in SIGNIFICANT financial hardship. I however do not feel trapped by it - i just know i'll need to go back to school etc, and make some back up plans if i do want to get out - so that I don't end up drowning financially.

There are days I am not a happy sex worker and I HATE MY FUCKING JOB... and i should be allowed to do that without people rushing to my rescue! I'm just a person. with a job. And some love this job some hate it, the majority of us have loves and hates with it.

Some girls feel degraded by this kind of work and do it out of economic necessity.
I felt degraded by flipping burgers and did that out of economic necessity. No one rushed to rescue me then lol.



I do want to say - there are times the fact that there is sex trafficking and some really awful situations going on on the same site i work on, does .. upset me. significantly. I was really glad when they closed down the asian page.

I also got really annoyed when they used that one girl from streamamte (I forget her name) having her breakdown as an example of someone who was in a terrible situation. I'm pretty sure I've been told that that kind of behaviour is pretty much her 'schtick" and the interview did not cover the fact that sometimes, camgirls use "I'm in a terrible situation please tip me" as part of their gig. That sometimes the situations might not be as terrible as all that but that protraying yourself as a 'struggling single mom' or etc etc can have its benefits!!
 
I feel like there's this weird selective moralism at play.

Somebody who scrapes by on a minimum wage in say, retail - working 40 hours a week in a job that often doesn't pay nearly enough for what's being expected of its workers - just to be able to make rent at the end of the month... that's just a person working a shitty job. That's the end of the discussion, ya know? But somebody who works in the sex trade... well, that's different. People who work in the sex trade are clearly only doing so because they're desperate and have no other options available to them. They're forced to degrade themselves for little in return and they deserve to be pitied by the rest of society. It just seems like a really weird misrepresentation of a profession that provides a lot of people with a lot of opportunities.

Obviously there's a dark underbelly to the sex trade that does need to be highlighted and does need to be policed, but it's just that; an underbelly. I can't think of many professions in which people aren't exploited at some level. It's an unfortunate part of life. But exploitation isn't the norm for sex workers (at least in the western world). The majority in the sex trade are there because they choose to be and are free to pursue other careers any time they choose or not become a sex worker in the first place. Treating the majority as an anomoly, a privileged minority, to create a tidier narrative and further a moral crusade does more harm than good.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
Obviously there's a dark underbelly to the sex trade that does need to be highlighted and does need to be policed, but it's just that; an underbelly. I can't think of many professions in which people aren't exploited at some level.

On that note, almost every mainstream product or business relies on exploitation of some kind, and I also agree that it needs to be policed. All of it is bad, but everyone points fingers at all sex work instead of fighting exploitation in general and realizing that it happens everywhere. There are sugarcane plantations in the US that are legally allowed to pay their foreign workers below minimum wage for over 40+ hours a week where the workers are often no more than slaves themselves, dying or becoming severely injured while harvesting crops. Some only make $.30 an hour.

Sweatshops work like studios in foreign countries providing us with nice shoes from US businesses, but people still buy shoes from those companies. Most of those women and children forced to work in sweatshops are worked like slaves making close to nothing. There are sweatshops in the US made up of illegal immigrants where the workers are forced to work off their indefinite debt incurred to get them over here, but people still buy knock-off purses and the purse making industry isn't considered dirty.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
the interview was terrible and i was really annoyed that no one really explored properly the point that just cos we're not all "HAPPY HOOKERS" and LOVE our jobs and some of us are doing it out of economic necessity isn't something terrible.

I feel like im constantly under pressure to say "i love my job" and "i don't need to do this"

at this point in time, to support the lifestyle we currently have - if i quit camming and tried another career we would be in SIGNIFICANT financial hardship. I however do not feel trapped by it - i just know i'll need to go back to school etc, and make some back up plans if i do want to get out - so that I don't end up drowning financially.

There are days I am not a happy sex worker and I HATE MY FUCKING JOB... and i should be allowed to do that without people rushing to my rescue! I'm just a person. with a job. And some love this job some hate it, the majority of us have loves and hates with it.

Some girls feel degraded by this kind of work and do it out of economic necessity.
I felt degraded by flipping burgers and did that out of economic necessity. No one rushed to rescue me then lol.

I knew a camgirl that had been in the adult industry for about 4 years, Playboy, Hustler, Twisty, and started camming a couple of years ago first on MFC, then on Streammates. Her regulars weren't happy when she moved from MFC to Streammate because she didn't seem to enjoy the job. She latter wrote that in fact she really didn't enjoy working at SM, but said "hey guys get over it is just a job. Lots of people don't like their job this one pays well and I control my own hours. " I think she is right there is no law that say work or jobs are suppose to be fun, work is after all a four letter word. :lol: I guess on average camgirls have more fun on the job than most people, certainly more orgasms :D. Still within a year she left the industry to take a job at vets office and last I heard was much poorer but happier.

Now to be fair there plenty of groups that attempt to help migrant farm workers, people working in the garment industry,and even folks who working fast food by raising the minimum wage. There are always debates about what the best way to help these people. Often they don't feel exploited, and some feel lucky to have a job. There are also folks who think high wage/high skill workers are being exploited, nurses, medical interns, soldiers, programmers, teaching assistants, all have outside group who want to help them.

I didn't hear any of the participants say that Sinnamon was being exploited. Just the opposite they said she was lucky. I personally think we should take people at their word and if they don't feel exploited than we should save our empathy and action for people who say they need help instead of trying to save people don't need rescuing.

The thing that bothered me about this discussion and most others regarding sex workers is the complete lack of data. Does the average Romanian or Thai camgirl make $15 a day or $15 an hour, the first is exploitative the second a good living.
 
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The thing that bothered me about this discussion and most others regarding sex workers is the complete lack of data. Does the average Romanian or Thai camgirl make $15 a day or $15 an hour, the first is exploitative the second a good living.

$15 = 429.33 Baht (Thai currency)
A furnished apartment in Thailand runs about 4,000B per month, which at $15 (429.33B) per day would mean you'd only have to work 11 days to make rent. IF $15/hr, you'd only have to work 10 hours and you'd have rent.

$15 = 50.15 Leu (Romanian currency)
A 1-bedroom apartment inside the city would be about 1,090 leu. At $15 a day, that would take almost a month to make rent so that would be very exploitative. At $15/hr, you'd have to work about 23 hours or about 5 days a month if working 5 hours a day, so that would be a good living.

Whatever website they are on, though, the website obviously is going to take a cut. If on Streamate, say their private/exclusive rates are $2.99 a minute, after the site's cut, they'd get $1.04. They probably are streaming through a studio, so the studio might take 50% or even more, but say the studio takes a 50% cut for using their computers, internet, cam, room, etc. then they'd get $.50 a minute.

If they did a 15-minute private, they'd keep $7.50ish. They probably are going to work pretty long shifts, but since the quality isn't great they won't be in paid for most of it, but if they can be in private for at least 3 hours during that 8 hour shift, they'd get $90 or 2575.98 Baht, 300.89 Leu. I'd say that would be a pretty good living even with both the site and the studio's cut.

Though I've heard of some studios taking 65%+ of their already 35% cut and of course some might be straight up trafficked and make none of it.
 
TashaDutch said:
aren't people all over the world beeing exploited? in any line of work? by any kind of company, based in any kind of country?
I'm not really getting why the sex part of the job is making this so much worse?

One could argue that forcing someone into sex work is kinda like rape... or even flat-out rape if they're forced into a brothel.
 
LadyLuna said:
TashaDutch said:
aren't people all over the world beeing exploited? in any line of work? by any kind of company, based in any kind of country?
I'm not really getting why the sex part of the job is making this so much worse?

One could argue that forcing someone into sex work is kinda like rape... or even flat-out rape if they're forced into a brothel.

yeah still... how is that different/worse from 5 year olds getting slapped into a factory to work 17 hour shifts making sneakers?
i don't think those kinda things happen without any physical force...
 
mynameisbob84 said:
The overwhelming majority of cam girls aren't forced to work on cam sites, aren't being trafficked and aren't being exploited. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm willing to bet the majority of cam girls are working on cam sites because they'd rather be doing that than doing anything else.

Wait, how do we know this? To near exclusivity, most models here are US are they not so are not necessarily representative of the rest of the world.
Likewise, how many guys talk to the vast numbers of models on the vast numbers of sites from the vast number of countries around the world?

It would need a real investigation all over the place, and as of yet, I've not seen anyone do that at all. So a sweeping statement of "The overwhelming majority" needs either some serious context putting on it (you've spoken personally to hundreds of thousands of women who cam and received honest feedback?). Who are this majority and how do you know Or was there a caveat that it's only US models?
 
Some people (many of them snooty journalists) just feel compelled to take what they consider to be the high moral ground. They couch what they do in terms of "objective" journalism but all too often they are actually sitting in judgment of people, occupations, lifestyles, etc. They cast a broad net and they paint a subject with a very broad brush. We all know assholes are out there exploiting people in the sex industry, but if that's what they want to focus on, then do a thorough investigative expose on that narrow subject.

The sex trade has existed for probably as long as people have and in many/most instances it exists between a willing seller and a willing buyer.

Practically everything we do in the west is based on economic necessity. If I don't work, my mortgage goes unpaid, my car doesn't get gas, etc., etc., etc. For many of you -- hell, perhaps most -- camming is a means to an end. It's financing college educations, supplementing mediocre incomes, and basically providing food and rent like all jobs do. But you're doing it not knowing if you're going to make $10 today or $100 or $1,000. And you're setting aside money for taxes, providing your own medical insurance, etc. Some well-meaning journalist should do a piece about camgirls who are working their way through school and graduating without a mountain of student loan debt staring them in the face for years to come. It's a damn fine profession, although labor perhaps doesn't get a large enough slice of the pie. But that's a subject for another day.
 
TashaDutch said:
LadyLuna said:
TashaDutch said:
aren't people all over the world beeing exploited? in any line of work? by any kind of company, based in any kind of country?
I'm not really getting why the sex part of the job is making this so much worse?

One could argue that forcing someone into sex work is kinda like rape... or even flat-out rape if they're forced into a brothel.

yeah still... how is that different/worse from 5 year olds getting slapped into a factory to work 17 hour shifts making sneakers?
i don't think those kinda things happen without any physical force...

While I agree with you, many people in the US will say that rape is way worse.
 
BlueViolet said:
mynameisbob84 said:
Obviously there's a dark underbelly to the sex trade that does need to be highlighted and does need to be policed, but it's just that; an underbelly. I can't think of many professions in which people aren't exploited at some level.

On that note, almost every mainstream product or business relies on exploitation of some kind, and I also agree that it needs to be policed. All of it is bad, but everyone points fingers at all sex work instead of fighting exploitation in general and realizing that it happens everywhere. There are sugarcane plantations in the US that are legally allowed to pay their foreign workers below minimum wage for over 40+ hours a week where the workers are often no more than slaves themselves, dying or becoming severely injured while harvesting crops. Some only make $.30 an hour.

Sweatshops work like studios in foreign countries providing us with nice shoes from US businesses, but people still buy shoes from those companies. Most of those women and children forced to work in sweatshops are worked like slaves making close to nothing. There are sweatshops in the US made up of illegal immigrants where the workers are forced to work off their indefinite debt incurred to get them over here, but people still buy knock-off purses and the purse making industry isn't considered dirty.

Yep.

Practically every piece of electronics bought in the US is made in what would be considered practically slave labor camps in China. Low wages, poor work conditions, some even only get paid in company currency now, only good at company stores (that was a big thing in the US years ago, company towns, to keep workers stuck working for them). Most of the clothes we buy are made in sweat shops in Honduras or China or elsewhere. Etc.

All to save the companies providing these products a few bucks per unit in labor.

Now, as to studios in Eastern Europe and other areas... it's a mixed bag.

In Romania, for example, internet access is pretty cheap and fast in the big cities, but the cost of a computer is relatively high. So many girls working in studios (even if initially told it's just a chat site, which does happen) who might want to have done it on their own, simply can't afford the computer to do it. Thus the studios offer the equipment, a place to cam (and some of them with the HD cams and good internet have fantastic quality), etc. for their cut (normally 50% of what they earn). But, enough of them earn enough to get by, even with the cut, and stay working for the studios. Some go solo after getting their own computer, but not all. Some studios even let the models use studio laptops at their homes, under the studio account.

In the Southeast Asian countries yes, it is possible that there is forced labor in some of them, but not all. It really depends, though it is easier to spot those forced into it for the most part (horrible conditions, etc.).

I even know a girl who worked for a studio in Ro, quit, moved to the US, and now does her job here in the US and MFC. So, obviously she knew the money was there from the camming and she seems to enjoy herself on cam, so she probably wanted to come back. So, it's not like the studio system turned her off to camming.

So, I don't think it's fair to compare all studios to sweatshops, but you could definitely compare some of them to them.

I'm about to listen to it, now, and it's based off that one piece that Mila was interviewed on, right?
 
UncleThursday said:
So, I don't think it's fair to compare all studios to sweatshops, but you could definitely compare some of them to them.


You're right, I shouldn't have worded it to say all studios are like sweatshops. From my last post on here about how after the site + studio cut, models still can make a decent living on them as long as the studio is actually legit.

I was mostly referring to the bad studios, the ones that use physical abuse on models to force them to make a certain quota a week or force the girls into performing sexual favors. But I believe that in many countries, even making 50% of what they'd normally make due to the studio is still a pretty good living as long as everything is legit.
 
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BlueViolet said:
UncleThursday said:
So, I don't think it's fair to compare all studios to sweatshops, but you could definitely compare some of them to them.


You're right, I shouldn't have worded it to say all studios are like sweatshops. From my last post on here about how after the site + studio cut, models still can make a decent living on them as long as the studio is actually legit.

I was mostly referring to the bad studios, the ones that use physical abuse on models to force them to make a certain quota a week or force the girls into performing sexual favors. But I believe that in many countries, even making 50% of what they'd normally make due to the studio is still a pretty good living as long as everything is legit.

Yes. As has been said, the average wage in Ro is like $200-$300 a month. So, even with the studio cut, if the girl is making more than that, she is probably doing decent in that country.

And there are studios in North America, too. I found on Streammate a lot of American girls are in studios, and Eevie has said SM itself owns some of those studios. But, even though they are studios, the grils seem to make a decent amount on SM.

That isn't to say that there aren't shit studios out there. But, at least on the bigger camming sites, they seem to be the minority. Maybe on smaller, less well known sites, they make up a bigger percentage, but I think with how many studios in Eastern Europe are being bought out by the same few companies, they'll become even less of an issue in EE.

Southeast Asia, though, where trafficking and forced sex work are much more prevalent, might be a different story.
 
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mynameisbob84 said:
The overwhelming majority of cam girls aren't forced to work on cam sites, aren't being trafficked and aren't being exploited. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm willing to bet the majority of cam girls are working on cam sites because they'd rather be doing that than doing anything else.

Wait, how do we know this? To near exclusivity, most models here are US are they not so are not necessarily representative of the rest of the world.
Likewise, how many guys talk to the vast numbers of models on the vast numbers of sites from the vast number of countries around the world?

It would need a real investigation all over the place, and as of yet, I've not seen anyone do that at all. So a sweeping statement of "The overwhelming majority" needs either some serious context putting on it (you've spoken personally to hundreds of thousands of women who cam and received honest feedback?). Who are this majority and how do you know Or was there a caveat that it's only US models?

I'm speaking of the western world, mostly. Something I clarified in my follow-up post but didn't originally mention :) The US, Canada, the UK, Australia, Europe - while I haven't spoken to every single one of the models operating in these countries, I do feel comfortable in stating that the majority of them are not being exploited.
There are unquestionably parts of the world where that's not the case, and it's those parts of the world that need to be discussed and policed. I don't see it as being a camming problem, or a problem that's unique to the sex trade; I see it as being something that regrettably goes on in certain corners of the world, and it goes on in near enough every profession and every industry there is. You can't compare the average American cam worker's circumstances with those of somebody in South-East Asia who is being legitimately exploited. Which is what the video was trying to do.
 
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What was interesting about this show was the way in which they managed to cram all of the favorite tropes of the Anti-Trafficking Movement into a single twenty minute episode - under-age models - trafficked women - indentured servants - and anyone who doesn't fit into their correct "survivor narrative" is a "Bourgeois Sex Worker" whose testimony can be ignored as "unrepresentative." But still I would take this seriously. This interview is now posted all over the web on multiple sites in the US and the UK.
And featured on this Anti Slavery web-site..http://stopslavery2013.com/camgirls.html
Let the games begin..
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