What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[sahi]

I often do a countdown to nude/foreplay, then I turn group on. If the people tipping want to take me to group a couple minutes after that, I'm not going to stop them. Ive never had a case where someone tipping for the countdown had a problem with going to the group after. The point is to gather a crowd and generate interest. It also gives the room something to do while building the audience. Im not going to spend half an hour naked for free, and sitting around clothed and only getting naked in group makes things boring and gives us less hang out time, and probably a smaller group too.

Thanks for the feedback Jessi. That was really interesting to know. And in your case it's completely fair enough. Because as you stated you do this often and so it's expected from the people who know your room. Also you may make this clear in your topic. In the e.g I was making this was a G/G/G show, so therefor a different situation. It involved three popular models and so naturally gathered a lot of interest. And so people tipped for the shower/bath show, many of whom I'm willing to bet are not familiar with the methods of the host model (If sometimes going group when in a public show is a method of hers, with people familiar with her room knowing about it ). So in a situation like this I think it'd be wise if the model was to make clear beforehand that they might suddenly decide to go group during the public show.
Having said all this I must point out that I may be totally wrong about this. I only saw some of the show and what I did see I'm just going by what I remember. For all I know they mentioned they might be going group and I missed it :whistle:

 

[missmeowmixx]

smart ass shit!

more smart ass shit!

even more smart ass shit!

even fuckin' more smart ass shit!

You guys are my favourites today, I love you all.

(i already posted my pet peeves a few pages ago and can't think of any other stuff right now 'cause I'm too happy about you guys discussing things so intelligently.)

 

[Jillybean]

This might be an unpopular thing to say and I apologize if I happen to offend anyone. The most annoying thing for me that a model can do is when they have a countdown for something, a public show for e.g, and then when it's time for the public show or not long into the show they decide to go into group. Now I understand that there are a lot of freeloaders on mfc, especially during show time, and that they can be really annoying themselves with their trolling and demands, but some people have tipped for a public show not a group show. I admit I don't always tip towards a public show if i'm watching, even if I have tokens, so I know i'm not in a position to get annoyed at those times. But i'm also speaking in a general sense, for the people who have tipped. So therefor in my opinion it's kinda false advertisement to put a countdown for a public show and then go group instead.
I'm not saying i'm definitely right on this, just giving my opinion, I might be totally wrong. I don't claim to be an MFC expert or anything, lol. Please feel free to give your opinions on this.

Just to clarify, you're not talking about this, right? A model's topic is "1,500 to pussy rub and then group show" right? Because that clearly states that at 1,500 she will do a short tease - possibly with a toy, but maybe not - and then open up for groups where she does the actual show.

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

But if you mean a model's topic is something like this, "at 1,500 I will get in the shower and use my vibrator." And then as soon as the countdown is over she starts a group where she does that... That is wrong and I would be very frustrated if I were a member and spent all my tokens tipping for the countdown, then didn't have enough for group. Because that's just crappy.

 

[sahi]

This might be an unpopular thing to say and I apologize if I happen to offend anyone. The most annoying thing for me that a model can do is when they have a countdown for something, a public show for e.g, and then when it's time for the public show or not long into the show they decide to go into group. Now I understand that there are a lot of freeloaders on mfc, especially during show time, and that they can be really annoying themselves with their trolling and demands, but some people have tipped for a public show not a group show. I admit I don't always tip towards a public show if i'm watching, even if I have tokens, so I know i'm not in a position to get annoyed at those times. But i'm also speaking in a general sense, for the people who have tipped. So therefor in my opinion it's kinda false advertisement to put a countdown for a public show and then go group instead.
I'm not saying i'm definitely right on this, just giving my opinion, I might be totally wrong. I don't claim to be an MFC expert or anything, lol. Please feel free to give your opinions on this.

Just to clarify, you're not talking about this, right? A model's topic is "1,500 to pussy rub and then group show" right? Because that clearly states that at 1,500 she will do a short tease - possibly with a toy, but maybe not - and then open up for groups where she does the actual show.

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

But if you mean a model's topic is something like this, "at 1,500 I will get in the shower and use my vibrator." And then as soon as the countdown is over she starts a group where she does that... That is wrong and I would be very frustrated if I were a member and spent all my tokens tipping for the countdown, then didn't have enough for group. Because that's just crappy.

Yeah I meant the latter. The first one you mentioned is clearly ok. As I mentioned in my last post I may have been totally wrong about the G/G/G show I saw as I only saw some of it, but I was also talking in general, as I've seen this kinda thing happen at least once before, maybe more.

 

[Jillybean]

Yeah I meant the latter. The first one you mentioned is clearly ok. As I mentioned in my last post I may have been totally wrong about the G/G/G show I saw as I only saw some of it, but I was also talking in general, as I've seen this kinda thing happen at least once before, maybe more.

Yeah, I think we all can agree that's annoying, then.

I just thought of something that's more funny than annoying, but I was in a model's room, and she was getting so many 1 token tips from someone and another member tipped her 50, but it got lost in all the other tips. She didn't even react to the guy until like 10 minutes later, and he had already left!! I guess he was probably mad, but she didn't even see it! I imagine she PMed him a thanks or something. I am almost certain she was just as new as me, and I completely understand losing track of tips! It's so hard to keep up on this stuff, hehe.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Two different things that I've seen multiple times recently. Models with smaller boob jobs acting like they are better than models with larger boob jobs. Sometimes it's blatant but other times it's much more subtle. Saying that nobody can tell, they still look and feel real, I still wanted to look natural, and a buncha other passive agrressive type stuff. The women saying these things breasts never look natural or real and people can do whatever the fuck they want with their own bodies so how you going to act superior to those that have made the same choices you have? It shouldn't even be a problem but the models always seem to put me on the spot with annoying questions. "Do they look real?" If I answer honestly the model gets annoyed and the show sucks and if I lie I'm just a bitch/yes man.

The other thing is models who kinda mistake common manners for weakness/loneliness. At the beginning of the show I like to introduce myself and chat for a little bit and about 90% of the time things are perfect. At about 5 minutes the model will say something like wanna see more of me?, ready for fun?, what shall we start with? and just seem super eager to please/enjoying herself. Once in a while tho some models seem to forget that dudes can be polite and respectful and still want sexual entertainment. It's so awkward having to say something like"sorry if this is rude, but could we please start with a sensual striptease" when someone is 20 minutes deep into their life story. I don't want to rush and I want the model to be comfortable because that makes the show great for both of us but that doesn't mean that I don't wanna see some titties. I'm pretty high and rereading what I typed and it doesn't make as much sense as it did when I was typing it, but man that stuff annoys me.

 

[Jillybean]

I figured I'd post this here instead of starting a new thread. From a members' perspective, is this too much shit on my cam?

Is it one of those annoying things us models do?

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I figured I'd post this here instead of starting a new thread. From a members' perspective, is this too much shit on my cam?

Is it one of those annoying things us models do?

I'm fine with watermarking. But the high tip in a big font is just too distracting, works better as topic IMO.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

I figured I'd post this here instead of starting a new thread. From a members' perspective, is this too much shit on my cam?

Is it one of those annoying things us models do?

I'm fine with watermarking. But the high tip in a big font is just too distracting, works better as topic IMO.

I agree with this. Watermarks are kind of necessary to protect yourself, and I get that. I'd prefer to see anything else in the topic or elsewhere to leave as much of the picture unobstructed as possible.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm fine with watermarking. But the high tip in a big font is just too distracting, works better as topic IMO.

I agree. The high tip info would be good in the room topic area.

And if you have one of those big dry erase boards...it would be cool to have high tip info written on there in large letters. I got this huge 'The Board Dudes' white dry erase board from Target for $20.

 

[Jillybean]

Thanks everyone. I tried it out because my topic was mega long explaining schtuff.

At least the only person tipping was the HT so it didn't matter last night!

I really appreciate the info, because (like many models) I don't want to piss off the members I like over stupid stuff like that!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I figured I'd post this here instead of starting a new thread. From a members' perspective, is this too much shit on my cam?

Is it one of those annoying things us models do?

I'll be brutally honest here, and probably buck the trend. I hate watermarks. They distract from the view for the honest people who do tip and in reality do nothing to prevent people from recording videos. Those people simply crop out your watermark and post it or just leave it in and still post it anyway. They just don't care that it's there. Do a search for camgirl videos and look at a few that have been posted. You'll find watermarks.

The other thing is videos. I've bought videos from SEVERAL models where they were filmed with their webcam and the watermark was left in. Usually the model will make a point of making sure her face and all the important parts are in frame. To do that pretty much guarantees that one or more important feature I really want to be looking at is obscured by 'COPYRIGHT SO AND SO 2013,' or something of that nature. Rather annoying when I decide to plunk down $32.00 for a 400 token 11 minute video and that happens.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

New nuisances
1. Models that suck at Twitter. Constant begging, arguing with trolls, etc.
2. Models that are constantly drunk.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

For me.... bitching about other models is a big nono.

And another thing that really bugs me is when a model gets possessive over a high tipper to the point that if they see them in another model's room they'll send the member passive aggressive messages about it clearly intended to make the member feel guilty about it and probably to try and manipulate them into leaving that models room.

I have had it happen to members who visit me twice, once about a year ago with one of my best regulars, it was my birthday month last year, he'd waited until payday to tip me my biggest tip at the time which was very generous, then later on he told me that another model he had been visiting, who he'd also saved a whole load of tokens for, had sent him a few guilt tripping messages showing that she'd been lurking in the room and had seen him tipping. He felt terrible, he tipped her, but god, I hated her for that because he's a really sweet guy and had done an amazingly generous thing, and then couldn't enjoy any of it. I don't know... but I don't think he continued visiting her after that. I could be wrong about that though.
Recently something very similar happened, a new good tipping regular used to visit another model a lot, still does, and has tipped her a LOT of tokens, like 30x+ how many he's spent on me. Just this month he'd spent 3 times the amount on her as he'd spent on me, when he told me this I mentioned to him that I'd prefer not to know, which I think is one thing, I didn't say so to guilt trip him, I just didn't want to know his token spendings on other girls. I think he felt guilty for telling me how much he'd spent on her and took me private the next day, he hadn't said anything about it in the public room but she sent him several passive aggressive messages about it, telling her to enjoy me, and then saying "busted!!!" after... He deleted his member account the next day.
I don't know the relationship from her side, so maybe she had her reasons, but god it bugs me. If they want to bring it up with the guy, can they not wait until later on when they're actually in conversation with them? Rather than what both of these models did which was send a few sentences about it and then log out, whilst still clearly lurking in the room. It's not fair on other models when they're innocently trying to earn to have the members trying to enjoy a private with them being bugged by another jealous model.
Models complain about members being self entitled, but jesus, some models can be just as bad!

The only times I've ever brought up these things with a member is after having thought about it for several weeks and eventually deciding it's bothered me enough to have a mature conversation about it and clear the air. Unless I'm actually dating the dude, then I don't feel it's my right to dictate or have any say in where they spend their time and tokens.

 

[yossarian]

Ignoring the room is a big one for me. I don't mean answering a quick phone call/answering pm's--I mean NEVER interacting. It feels like some weird kind of entitlement--"Give me money because I am pretty."

If I want to be ignored by pretty girls, I have somewhere else I can go--it's called "real life" and it's free. :/

 

[pg240]

For me.... bitching about other models is a big nono.

And another thing that really bugs me is when a model gets possessive over a high tipper to the point that if they see them in another model's room they'll send the member passive aggressive messages about it clearly intended to make the member feel guilty about it and probably to try and manipulate them into leaving that models room.

I have had it happen to members who visit me twice, once about a year ago with one of my best regulars, it was my birthday month last year, he'd waited until payday to tip me my biggest tip at the time which was very generous, then later on he told me that another model he had been visiting, who he'd also saved a whole load of tokens for, had sent him a few guilt tripping messages showing that she'd been lurking in the room and had seen him tipping. He felt terrible, he tipped her, but god, I hated her for that because he's a really sweet guy and had done an amazingly generous thing, and then couldn't enjoy any of it. I don't know... but I don't think he continued visiting her after that. I could be wrong about that though.
Recently something very similar happened, a new good tipping regular used to visit another model a lot, still does, and has tipped her a LOT of tokens, like 30x+ how many he's spent on me. Just this month he'd spent 3 times the amount on her as he'd spent on me, when he told me this I mentioned to him that I'd prefer not to know, which I think is one thing, I didn't say so to guilt trip him, I just didn't want to know his token spendings on other girls. I think he felt guilty for telling me how much he'd spent on her and took me private the next day, he hadn't said anything about it in the public room but she sent him several passive aggressive messages about it, telling her to enjoy me, and then saying "busted!!!" after... He deleted his member account the next day.
I don't know the relationship from her side, so maybe she had her reasons, but god it bugs me. If they want to bring it up with the guy, can they not wait until later on when they're actually in conversation with them? Rather than what both of these models did which was send a few sentences about it and then log out, whilst still clearly lurking in the room. It's not fair on other models when they're innocently trying to earn to have the members trying to enjoy a private with them being bugged by another jealous model.
Models complain about members being self entitled, but jesus, some models can be just as bad!

The only times I've ever brought up these things with a member is after having thought about it for several weeks and eventually deciding it's bothered me enough to have a mature conversation about it and clear the air. Unless I'm actually dating the dude, then I don't feel it's my right to dictate or have any say in where they spend their time and tokens.

Interesting yet frustrating to know these sorts of things go on. As you said, we're not dating cam models. We are establishing a kind of relationship/friendship with many of you, but ultimately it's all based on a financial transaction. Models need to understand (and, from my limited experience, nearly all of you do) that we are attracted to you first by a physical look then no doubt become regulars for reasons far beyond that -- friendliness, warmth, sense of humor, appreciation, knowledge, conversational skills, integrity, business acumen, on and on and on. Behavior such as Isabella describes destroys all that and drastically changes the equation. I'm not surprised that the cited member deleted his account and vamoosed. Feel bad that you've lost a revenue stream and perhaps a friend, but who needs that kind of drama and conflict at a cam site where you're paying for the privilege!? I suppose it's the "human nature" element of what we do here, which all too often can be beyond the ability to rein in. But, my goodness, we should certainly try.

 

[JoleneBrody]

For me.... bitching about other models is a big nono.

And another thing that really bugs me is when a model gets possessive over a high tipper to the point that if they see them in another model's room they'll send the member passive aggressive messages about it clearly intended to make the member feel guilty about it and probably to try and manipulate them into leaving that models room.

I have had it happen to members who visit me twice, once about a year ago with one of my best regulars, it was my birthday month last year, he'd waited until payday to tip me my biggest tip at the time which was very generous, then later on he told me that another model he had been visiting, who he'd also saved a whole load of tokens for, had sent him a few guilt tripping messages showing that she'd been lurking in the room and had seen him tipping. He felt terrible, he tipped her, but god, I hated her for that because he's a really sweet guy and had done an amazingly generous thing, and then couldn't enjoy any of it. I don't know... but I don't think he continued visiting her after that. I could be wrong about that though.
Recently something very similar happened, a new good tipping regular used to visit another model a lot, still does, and has tipped her a LOT of tokens, like 30x+ how many he's spent on me. Just this month he'd spent 3 times the amount on her as he'd spent on me, when he told me this I mentioned to him that I'd prefer not to know, which I think is one thing, I didn't say so to guilt trip him, I just didn't want to know his token spendings on other girls. I think he felt guilty for telling me how much he'd spent on her and took me private the next day, he hadn't said anything about it in the public room but she sent him several passive aggressive messages about it, telling her to enjoy me, and then saying "busted!!!" after... He deleted his member account the next day.
I don't know the relationship from her side, so maybe she had her reasons, but god it bugs me. If they want to bring it up with the guy, can they not wait until later on when they're actually in conversation with them? Rather than what both of these models did which was send a few sentences about it and then log out, whilst still clearly lurking in the room. It's not fair on other models when they're innocently trying to earn to have the members trying to enjoy a private with them being bugged by another jealous model.
Models complain about members being self entitled, but jesus, some models can be just as bad!

The only times I've ever brought up these things with a member is after having thought about it for several weeks and eventually deciding it's bothered me enough to have a mature conversation about it and clear the air. Unless I'm actually dating the dude, then I don't feel it's my right to dictate or have any say in where they spend their time and tokens.

Interesting yet frustrating to know these sorts of things go on. As you said, we're not dating cam models. We are establishing a kind of relationship/friendship with many of you, but ultimately it's all based on a financial transaction. Models need to understand (and, from my limited experience, nearly all of you do) that we are attracted to you first by a physical look then no doubt become regulars for reasons far beyond that -- friendliness, warmth, sense of humor, appreciation, knowledge, conversational skills, integrity, business acumen, on and on and on. Behavior such as Isabella describes destroys all that and drastically changes the equation. I'm not surprised that the cited member deleted his account and vamoosed. Feel bad that you've lost a revenue stream and perhaps a friend, but who needs that kind of drama and conflict at a cam site where you're paying for the privilege!? I suppose it's the "human nature" element of what we do here, which all too often can be beyond the ability to rein in. But, my goodness, we should certainly try.

As much as it seriously pain me to say this (seriously, it makes me so sad it hurts) this type of relationship is incredibly common in top model rooms. I'm not gonna name names, not even in PM so please don't ask but I know of at least two tippy top earning girls who threaten to ban members if they are caught tipping other models... and month after month that large handful of huge tippers continues to tip her massive amounts and "sneak around" behind her back... so much so as even being afraid to publicly talk to a model they "cheat with" in fear of the main girl getting mad.

This is shitty behavior on a cam site and in day to day life. This is the perfect example of an unhealthy and possessive relationship but some people crave that. This type of behind the curtain bitchiness is so much more common than most would think because so many members love the shit out of it! They love that a pretty girl needs them enough to be possessive and the only reason they tell other models about it is to brag.
I had a member reg who used to always get wrapped up in these possessive girls (different story than the first) and he would always send me PM's when he was leaving the room, making a big deal about how so and so other model logged on and she'll get mad and jealous if he's not there so he better go. No matter how many times I told him "I don't give a flying fuck why he's leaving, just say good bye!" he wouldn't stop! I wasn't jealous but his weakness and desperation was pretty off putting, so much so that everything he said started annoying me and I asked him not to visit me any more.

Anyway, my only point is that while the possessive BS is super gross and unattractive, it only exists because certain members eat it up like Andes mints after a Prime Rib dinner.

 

[Bocefish]

Anyway, my only point is that while the possessive BS is super gross and unattractive, it only exists because certain members eat it up like Andes mints after a Prime Rib dinner.

Couldn't agree more about the unattractiveness of that type of behavior, on both sides. If a model pulled that crap with me, I'd tell her she should only do shows for me then. I wonder what she would say to that? :lol:

 

[pg240]

For me.... bitching about other models is a big nono.

And another thing that really bugs me is when a model gets possessive over a high tipper to the point that if they see them in another model's room they'll send the member passive aggressive messages about it clearly intended to make the member feel guilty about it and probably to try and manipulate them into leaving that models room.

I have had it happen to members who visit me twice, once about a year ago with one of my best regulars, it was my birthday month last year, he'd waited until payday to tip me my biggest tip at the time which was very generous, then later on he told me that another model he had been visiting, who he'd also saved a whole load of tokens for, had sent him a few guilt tripping messages showing that she'd been lurking in the room and had seen him tipping. He felt terrible, he tipped her, but god, I hated her for that because he's a really sweet guy and had done an amazingly generous thing, and then couldn't enjoy any of it. I don't know... but I don't think he continued visiting her after that. I could be wrong about that though.
Recently something very similar happened, a new good tipping regular used to visit another model a lot, still does, and has tipped her a LOT of tokens, like 30x+ how many he's spent on me. Just this month he'd spent 3 times the amount on her as he'd spent on me, when he told me this I mentioned to him that I'd prefer not to know, which I think is one thing, I didn't say so to guilt trip him, I just didn't want to know his token spendings on other girls. I think he felt guilty for telling me how much he'd spent on her and took me private the next day, he hadn't said anything about it in the public room but she sent him several passive aggressive messages about it, telling her to enjoy me, and then saying "busted!!!" after... He deleted his member account the next day.
I don't know the relationship from her side, so maybe she had her reasons, but god it bugs me. If they want to bring it up with the guy, can they not wait until later on when they're actually in conversation with them? Rather than what both of these models did which was send a few sentences about it and then log out, whilst still clearly lurking in the room. It's not fair on other models when they're innocently trying to earn to have the members trying to enjoy a private with them being bugged by another jealous model.
Models complain about members being self entitled, but jesus, some models can be just as bad!

The only times I've ever brought up these things with a member is after having thought about it for several weeks and eventually deciding it's bothered me enough to have a mature conversation about it and clear the air. Unless I'm actually dating the dude, then I don't feel it's my right to dictate or have any say in where they spend their time and tokens.

Interesting yet frustrating to know these sorts of things go on. As you said, we're not dating cam models. We are establishing a kind of relationship/friendship with many of you, but ultimately it's all based on a financial transaction. Models need to understand (and, from my limited experience, nearly all of you do) that we are attracted to you first by a physical look then no doubt become regulars for reasons far beyond that -- friendliness, warmth, sense of humor, appreciation, knowledge, conversational skills, integrity, business acumen, on and on and on. Behavior such as Isabella describes destroys all that and drastically changes the equation. I'm not surprised that the cited member deleted his account and vamoosed. Feel bad that you've lost a revenue stream and perhaps a friend, but who needs that kind of drama and conflict at a cam site where you're paying for the privilege!? I suppose it's the "human nature" element of what we do here, which all too often can be beyond the ability to rein in. But, my goodness, we should certainly try.

As much as it seriously pain me to say this (seriously, it makes me so sad it hurts) this type of relationship is incredibly common in top model rooms. I'm not gonna name names, not even in PM so please don't ask but I know of at least two tippy top earning girls who threaten to ban members if they are caught tipping other models... and month after month that large handful of huge tippers continues to tip her massive amounts and "sneak around" behind her back... so much so as even being afraid to publicly talk to a model they "cheat with" in fear of the main girl getting mad.

This is shitty behavior on a cam site and in day to day life. This is the perfect example of an unhealthy and possessive relationship but some people crave that. This type of behind the curtain bitchiness is so much more common than most would think because so many members love the shit out of it! They love that a pretty girl needs them enough to be possessive and the only reason they tell other models about it is to brag.
I had a member reg who used to always get wrapped up in these possessive girls (different story than the first) and he would always send me PM's when he was leaving the room, making a big deal about how so and so other model logged on and she'll get mad and jealous if he's not there so he better go. No matter how many times I told him "I don't give a flying fuck why he's leaving, just say good bye!" he wouldn't stop! I wasn't jealous but his weakness and desperation was pretty off putting, so much so that everything he said started annoying me and I asked him not to visit me any more.

Anyway, my only point is that while the possessive BS is super gross and unattractive, it only exists because certain members eat it up like Andes mints after a Prime Rib dinner.

Incredibly sad and disappointing that members could fall into that kind of a controlling, manipulative trap. In a weird way -- in a cold-hearted business sense anyway -- it's hard to fault the models if they can get away with it and continue to bank on it. But it's pretty despicable behavior nonetheless. And it's so sheep-like for members to cower under that spell -- and even tell others about it without some sense of shame or embarrassment. It's further proof to me that some online relationships are poison for members -- perhaps guys who don't function all that well in traditional society and hunger for some sort of connection in the world.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Agree with you there Jolene, there are definitely many members who seem to love that sort of thing. It's no different to how in real life relationships some people love going out with really possessive people and then just love moaning about how they're being "reined in". I swear those people cheat just to try and get a reaction out of the person they're with.

I also know of several high earning models who bully members into tipping them, and will aggressively threaten to ban them.

This girl wasn't that bad.... but seeing as this dude had spent over 20k tokens on her in 1 week, which seemed very much out of caring about her in a friend way, I think it's just shitty to get pissed at someone who spends that much on you. A member spending loads on you doesn't mean it suddenly makes them exclusive.

Now if he hadn't tipped her at all and had been saying he was skint and she caught him tipping/spending on me, then I'd be more sympathetic to why she might call him out. But he's spent a small fortune on her, not just recently but in the past, I think for that he deserved a bit more respect.
Thing is with models who try pulling this stuff off, is although they will get some members who'll love it, they'll also get members who hate it. And I don't know if he did go and tip her afterwards, but I have a feeling he would have if I hadn't spoken to him about it. Some dudes don't want to be involved in these manipulation techniques and just get sucked into it by being made feel guilty, some of them definitely do seek out models like this.

 

[Greggory]

Agree with you there Jolene, there are definitely many members who seem to love that sort of thing. It's no different to how in real life relationships some people love going out with really possessive people and then just love moaning about how they're being "reined in". I swear those people cheat just to try and get a reaction out of the person they're with.

I also know of several high earning models who bully members into tipping them, and will aggressively threaten to ban them.

This girl wasn't that bad.... but seeing as this dude had spent over 20k tokens on her in 1 week, which seemed very much out of caring about her in a friend way, I think it's just shitty to get pissed at someone who spends that much on you. A member spending loads on you doesn't mean it suddenly makes them exclusive.

Now if he hadn't tipped her at all and had been saying he was skint and she caught him tipping/spending on me, then I'd be more sympathetic to why she might call him out. But he's spent a small fortune on her, not just recently but in the past, I think for that he deserved a bit more respect.
Thing is with models who try pulling this stuff off, is although they will get some members who'll love it, they'll also get members who hate it. And I don't know if he did go and tip her afterwards, but I have a feeling he would have if I hadn't spoken to him about it. Some dudes don't want to be involved in these manipulation techniques and just get sucked into it by being made feel guilty, some of them definitely do seek out models like this.

To some extent the guys who like that, might get off on the rush of tipping other models (ie "cheating") on one model. The rush of getting caught (kind of like having sex in a public area)

With that said, if a model were to ever become possessive over me (hey there is hoping) they would receive one last tip saying "I thought you were better than that"


My pet peeves that annoy me are the following:
-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)
-Large watermarks. If they are in the corner and don't take up a large amount of room (Jillybean's watermark is the perfect size). The biggest thing is watermarking in the middle of the screen, and scrolling text
-Failing to say goodbye, when a model supposedly cares for her members. This is a huge annoyance for myself. Logging on and seeing a favorite model (no camming, but just logged on) PM'ed her for a few minutes and she leaves without a goodbye. (Talking with a few others and she was in someones room and said goodbye there...but it would be nice if she would have said something)
-On a highest tip in the next X amount of minutes wins a prize having a completely random person winning after a good 30 seconds when the high tip is tied. This actually happened to me...it turned me off of the model so much I haven't returned to her room. (Long story: The model was doing after X amount of different tippers the highest tip will win, I tipped the highest amount....so did another guy. Our tips arrived at the same time, as well as a bunch of other tips that were lower. This pushed the amount past the goal. The model said "its a tie hahaha". This model even had time to write, thanks for everyone who had tipped and for a few others to tip come in. Then a guy steps in and beats ours by 25 tokens...this was at least 20 seconds after it was "over" and being . She proclaimed the 25 extra token guy the winner...the other guy who tied, maybe jokingly, pointed out the tip came after she said it was over. I just left and I don't think I have ever tipped her again.)
-Finally for the most annoying thing. When no one is talking and the model just bans basics for just saying hi...if no one is talking at least basics can provide some form of activity in a room.

 

[yossarian]

-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)

I don't understand this. It's weirdly specific.

Did she have in her goal "Tip 2500 if you want me to be on cam tomorrow?" Because otherwise I don't see the problem. Stuff comes up. Camgirls have lives. And maybe it's none of your business why she couldn't be on cam?

 

[SexySteph]

My pet peeves that annoy me are the following:
-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)

Models have lives outside of MFC. Maybe something came up that wasn't anyone else's business.

-Finally for the most annoying thing. When no one is talking and the model just bans basics for just saying hi...if no one is talking at least basics can provide some form of activity in a room.

Normally models don't ban them for "saying hi" they mute them because they probably forgot until one of them say hi. Too many premiums refuse to be in rooms if basics can talk so it's riskier for us to let them talk.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

My pet peeves that annoy me are the following:
-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)

Models have lives outside of MFC. Maybe something came up that wasn't anyone else's business.

-Finally for the most annoying thing. When no one is talking and the model just bans basics for just saying hi...if no one is talking at least basics can provide some form of activity in a room.

Normally models don't ban them for "saying hi" they mute them because they probably forgot until one of them say hi. Too many premiums refuse to be in rooms if basics can talk so it's riskier for us to let them talk.

With the basic thing, not just that but often once the basics realise they can chat in the room you'll start getting idiots begging/insulting you. I know that in my experience it's never been worth opening the chat room up to basics, even though some of them are nice and will say hi and chat. I think if you're in a room where no one is talking and it bugs you that she's not allowing basics to chat, unless you're a basic yourself then maybe you should step up and talk to her... Usually once one person starts others follow.

And like Steph said, models do have their own outside lives. Members need to remember that for most models half the reason they like camming is because they can choose their own hours and take days off with no notice. I'm sorry guys, it may be annoying, but it's a perk of being a camgirl, a major perk. In fact, for me it's pretty much the soul reason I cam, so I can spend lots of time doing other things. So either guys except that and just enjoy that there are camgirls, because if camgirls were forced to work certain hours I'd bet you there'd be less camgirls.
A camgirl doesn't owe you a reason to why she had to take a week off, she's said sorry which in my opinion is enough. Both the things that you seem to find super annoying seem to be really unreasonable and un-empathetic on your part, rather than being annoying on the models part.

 

[mynameisbob84]

-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)

Models have lives outside of MFC. Maybe something came up that wasn't anyone else's business.

And like Steph said, models do have their own outside lives. Members need to remember that for most models half the reason they like camming is because they can choose their own hours and take days off with no notice. I'm sorry guys, it may be annoying, but it's a perk of being a camgirl, a major perk. In fact, for me it's pretty much the soul reason I cam, so I can spend lots of time doing other things. So either guys except that and just enjoy that there are camgirls, because if camgirls were forced to work certain hours I'd bet you there'd be less camgirls.
A camgirl doesn't owe you a reason to why she had to take a week off, she's said sorry which in my opinion is enough. Both the things that you seem to find super annoying seem to be really unreasonable and un-empathetic on your part, rather than being annoying on the models part.

Largely playing devil's advocate here, but while models have to take time off from time to time for legitimate reasons that are nobody else's business, it's also possible that, in this particular instance (and others like them, I guess) that the model just wanted to make her goal for the month and had no intention of coming back the next day. In which case, the model would have knowingly misled the member(s) tipping her in the hopes that she'd be on the next day, and the member(s) would have cause to be annoyed. :twocents-02cents:

And while a model is never under any obligation to explain to members why they've been off, it surely makes some business sense to at least give them a vague explanation. It doesn't have to go into specifics, but "sorry guys, I've been too ill to cam recently" or "sorry guys, I've had a personal matter to attend to the past week so haven't been able to make it on cam" is surely gonna be better recieved than "I took a week off, so if you were expecting to see me last week, you were out of luck, and no, I won't be telling you why I wasn't working because it's frankly none of your business".

 

[pg240]

-Saying you will be on tomorrow if you meet your goal for today...and upon meeting your goal you log off and fail to return until a week later, with only saying sorry (not even giving a reason)

Models have lives outside of MFC. Maybe something came up that wasn't anyone else's business.

And like Steph said, models do have their own outside lives. Members need to remember that for most models half the reason they like camming is because they can choose their own hours and take days off with no notice. I'm sorry guys, it may be annoying, but it's a perk of being a camgirl, a major perk. In fact, for me it's pretty much the soul reason I cam, so I can spend lots of time doing other things. So either guys except that and just enjoy that there are camgirls, because if camgirls were forced to work certain hours I'd bet you there'd be less camgirls.
A camgirl doesn't owe you a reason to why she had to take a week off, she's said sorry which in my opinion is enough. Both the things that you seem to find super annoying seem to be really unreasonable and un-empathetic on your part, rather than being annoying on the models part.

Largely playing devil's advocate here, but while models have to take time off from time to time for legitimate reasons that are nobody else's business, it's also possible that, in this particular instance (and others like them, I guess) that the model just wanted to make her goal for the month and had no intention of coming back the next day. In which case, the model would have knowingly misled the member(s) tipping her in the hopes that she'd be on the next day, and the member(s) would have cause to be annoyed. :twocents-02cents:

And while a model is never under any obligation to explain to members why they've been off, it surely makes some business sense to at least give them a vague explanation. It doesn't have to go into specifics, but "sorry guys, I've been too ill to cam recently" or "sorry guys, I've had a personal matter to attend to the past week so haven't been able to make it on cam" is surely gonna be better recieved than "I took a week off, so if you were expecting to see me last week, you were out of luck, and no, I won't be telling you why I wasn't working because it's frankly none of your business".

Profiles have schedules. Do models use them? Or do members read them?

I think nothing owed is accurate in either direction -- a model doesn't cam, a member doesn't visit. But common courtesy could rule the day as well. If a model has a fairly regular schedule and is going to deviate from it, a word of caution to that effect would be nice -- and I think most models do that. A regular member/visitor could do the same thing in the event of a vacation, business commitments, etc. As is usually the case, it's better to know than to wonder. This, of course, applies when it's more than just a casual relationship between model and member. Otherwise, just carry on.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Largely playing devil's advocate here, but while models have to take time off from time to time for legitimate reasons that are nobody else's business, it's also possible that, in this particular instance (and others like them, I guess) that the model just wanted to make her goal for the month and had no intention of coming back the next day. In which case, the model would have knowingly misled the member(s) tipping her in the hopes that she'd be on the next day, and the member(s) would have cause to be annoyed. :twocents-02cents:

And while a model is never under any obligation to explain to members why they've been off, it surely makes some business sense to at least give them a vague explanation. It doesn't have to go into specifics, but "sorry guys, I've been too ill to cam recently" or "sorry guys, I've had a personal matter to attend to the past week so haven't been able to make it on cam" is surely gonna be better recieved than "I took a week off, so if you were expecting to see me last week, you were out of luck, and no, I won't be telling you why I wasn't working because it's frankly none of your business".

I'll play devil's advocate here too with a slight variation on the theme as I was thinking it.

Yes models have the right to set their own schedule and take time off whenever they want. I also understand getting on cam is not required in any way shape or form. It is one of the benefits of being your own boss. So, given that knowledge and knowing you personally feel that way you should never put in the topic that you will be getting on cam if certain amounts are raised. You yourself have freely acknowledged your schedule does not work that way, so don't make the deal in the first place. It's akin to selling something for X amount of tokens, having someone pay for that item and then you don't deliver.

I can understand things come up, family emergencies, illnesses. But if a model normally didn't work Thursday's and then said she would if 5000 tokens were raised additionally today. Then, after making that goal, she didn't show up Thursday... If it happened once or twice I'd understand. If it happened often, I'd cry foul too.

At that point it transcends your right to be your own boss and have free schedules and goes into the area of professional ethics. So feel free to take as much time off as you want, just don't be making a deal saying you'll be there for sure, that's scummy.

 

[Greggory]

With the basic thing, not just that but often once the basics realise they can chat in the room you'll start getting idiots begging/insulting you. I know that in my experience it's never been worth opening the chat room up to basics, even though some of them are nice and will say hi and chat. I think if you're in a room where no one is talking and it bugs you that she's not allowing basics to chat, unless you're a basic yourself then maybe you should step up and talk to her... Usually once one person starts others follow.

And like Steph said, models do have their own outside lives. Members need to remember that for most models half the reason they like camming is because they can choose their own hours and take days off with no notice. I'm sorry guys, it may be annoying, but it's a perk of being a camgirl, a major perk. In fact, for me it's pretty much the soul reason I cam, so I can spend lots of time doing other things. So either guys except that and just enjoy that there are camgirls, because if camgirls were forced to work certain hours I'd bet you there'd be less camgirls.
A camgirl doesn't owe you a reason to why she had to take a week off, she's said sorry which in my opinion is enough. Both the things that you seem to find super annoying seem to be really unreasonable and un-empathetic on your part, rather than being annoying on the models part.

I have no problems with models muting basics, the problem I have is not muting basics and then banning them for saying hi. I sometimes do go around as a basic to scope out a room, because when I used my premium account I found I got a lot of unwanted mail...so if the model allows a basic to talk, I usually would say hi (if muted I just sit and scope out the room a bit). There are many cases where the model just instantly banned me for saying hi...I think we can all agree mute is better than banning....on a side note I do like talking to some basics (but through pm)...even convinced one to become a prem.

I understand that models have lives outside of their work, but you have to understand that if someone says "I will be on tomorrow if I reach X amount of tokens"...then gets tipped X amount, leaves and literally only says "sorry" it will annoy people. I mean, not even getting a "sorry, something came up"....she didn't even post on her twitter that she wouldn't be able to make it...so there was a bunch of regulars sitting around, wondering if she would come on.

To actually give a bit more details to hopefully show I was not being "unreasonable and un-empathetic" here is a bit longer of the story. The goal was 2000 tokens and she was going to log off in an hour. She normally only logs on once a week (Fridays) between 9-10pm and stays until 1am. She said she would log on Saturday if the goal was met before she logged off in an hour. So within 10 minutes we (her regulars) met her goal. After she hit her goal she said bye, and logged off...ok she left 50 minutes before she said she was going to...brushed it off. Next day the regulars waited around, and then gave up. She didn't post anything on twitter about not being able to make it. A few days later I was talking to another regular, who had seen a twitter message from her saying "hung over" the Sunday after her no show...which was apparently deleted a few minutes after posting. After coming back next friday, all she had to say was "sorry". Not even a "sorry, I was busy" or "I have to do something important". Just "sorry" and then pretending like it never happened after that. So yes, models should keep their personal lives private, but at least give a vague reason...even if it is overly generic.

 

[SexySteph]

With the basic thing, not just that but often once the basics realise they can chat in the room you'll start getting idiots begging/insulting you. I know that in my experience it's never been worth opening the chat room up to basics, even though some of them are nice and will say hi and chat. I think if you're in a room where no one is talking and it bugs you that she's not allowing basics to chat, unless you're a basic yourself then maybe you should step up and talk to her... Usually once one person starts others follow.

And like Steph said, models do have their own outside lives. Members need to remember that for most models half the reason they like camming is because they can choose their own hours and take days off with no notice. I'm sorry guys, it may be annoying, but it's a perk of being a camgirl, a major perk. In fact, for me it's pretty much the soul reason I cam, so I can spend lots of time doing other things. So either guys except that and just enjoy that there are camgirls, because if camgirls were forced to work certain hours I'd bet you there'd be less camgirls.
A camgirl doesn't owe you a reason to why she had to take a week off, she's said sorry which in my opinion is enough. Both the things that you seem to find super annoying seem to be really unreasonable and un-empathetic on your part, rather than being annoying on the models part.

I have no problems with models muting basics, the problem I have is not muting basics and then banning them for saying hi. I sometimes do go around as a basic to scope out a room, because when I used my premium account I found I got a lot of unwanted mail...so if the model allows a basic to talk, I usually would say hi (if muted I just sit and scope out the room a bit). There are many cases where the model just instantly banned me for saying hi...I think we can all agree mute is better than banning....on a side note I do like talking to some basics (but through pm)...even convinced one to become a prem.

I understand that models have lives outside of their work, but you have to understand that if someone says "I will be on tomorrow if I reach X amount of tokens"...then gets tipped X amount, leaves and literally only says "sorry" it will annoy people. I mean, not even getting a "sorry, something came up"....she didn't even post on her twitter that she wouldn't be able to make it...so there was a bunch of regulars sitting around, wondering if she would come on.

To actually give a bit more details to hopefully show I was not being "unreasonable and un-empathetic" here is a bit longer of the story. The goal was 2000 tokens and she was going to log off in an hour. She normally only logs on once a week (Fridays) between 9-10pm and stays until 1am. She said she would log on Saturday if the goal was met before she logged off in an hour. So within 10 minutes we (her regulars) met her goal. After she hit her goal she said bye, and logged off...ok she left 50 minutes before she said she was going to...brushed it off. Next day the regulars waited around, and then gave up. She didn't post anything on twitter about not being able to make it. A few days later I was talking to another regular, who had seen a twitter message from her saying "hung over" the Sunday after her no show...which was apparently deleted a few minutes after posting. After coming back next friday, all she had to say was "sorry". Not even a "sorry, I was busy" or "I have to do something important". Just "sorry" and then pretending like it never happened after that. So yes, models should keep their personal lives private, but at least give a vague reason...even if it is overly generic.

Okay, if she put it in her topic than yeah, that feels kinda scummy. I always profusely apologize on twitter if I don't log in. I thought you meant she made a comment in passing like "hey guys, if we reach this goal I might be able to log in tomorrow!" Not an actual "xxxx tokens for me to log in tomorrow!"

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Perhaps best summed up as - "breaking a promise with no explanation and little/no remorse, especially when that promise is made in return for $$"