Falling for a cam girl

[BarbieLuv]

heat, all you're doing is claiming that she said these things and putting words in her mouth by using a different font color - If you REALLY want to back yourself up, then screenshots of your actual conversations AND that supposed $8k you sent her (you would have to be foolish not to have documentation of that) would be a good start. Blank out info all you want, but without screenshots all of this is just hearsay.

Edit: Steph beat me to it!

 

[Sevrin]

So, sure, let's always just accept the dude-who-fell-in-love-with-a-camgirls-story as ABSOLUTE TRUTH why don't we.

Calm down and get back on your meds. I don't see anything like that having happened in this thread, and I certainly don't see it *always* happening. So far there's a lot of benefit of the doubt all around, including from the member who is now less wealthy than he might have been had he not encountered his Dulcinea.

On the other hand, this could be some troll bullshitting for personal entertainment. It's the internet, after all.

 

[SNATCH]

So, sure, let's always just accept the dude-who-fell-in-love-with-a-camgirls-story as ABSOLUTE TRUTH why don't we.

Calm down and get back on your meds. I don't see anything like that having happened in this thread, and I certainly don't see it *always* happening. So far there's a lot of benefit of the doubt all around, including from the member who is now less wealthy than he might have been had he not encountered his Dulcinea.

On the other hand, this could be some troll bullshitting for personal entertainment. It's the internet, after all.

I can't. I force fed them all to your mom. .

If you read my quote, you would see who I was replying to. It wasn't you. It was the other jackass, with his dumbass comment.

 

[Deleted member 8603]

To OP
If she hasn't said "I love you and want to live with you" verbatim, then assume she doesn't.

Assuming people have love for you is a bad move.

Ask her directly: "do you love me and want to live with me?" If she says no, then move on.
If she says yes, then good for you.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

If you read my quote, you would see who I was replying to. It wasn't you. It was the other jackass, with his dumbass comment.

Yes yes name calling and acting like a 5 year old will certainly change my mind, good job.

 

[MintyFlowers]

Let me just reiterate what all us girlies have been saying~~ But in song!

Let it Go


Bonus, it's in many different languages!

In all seriousness man, you have to let it go because unfortunately your relationship is done and over. If and when she sees this thread, she'll never want to have anything to do with you again.
I assume that isn't what you wanted?

Unless you were looking to vent, and looking for advice on how to cope with this..? Then you really went about it the wrong way.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Whoever this model is(could be imaginary, can't be sure without any proof), lol@her not at least disappearing for a month or two like most do, she just blocked him and kept it moving.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

If this is a scam she may well have spoken to you about all these things. It may not have been an intentional scam. She may just have enjoyed chatting and may have seen a situation arise and may have taken advantage of it. It's often not black and white. She may have been able to give logic to the situation, seeing as you'd had so much free skype time she could have felt like the money was payment. Whether that logic is right or wrong, it may not have been as calculated as her sucking you in with conversation and planning the scam from the start. Or it may have been. I don't know what situation this girl is in, who she is or what her intentions were so it's impossible to say.

haha I knew this was coming. Guy gets scammed and models make up excuses to justify terrible behavior. Vintage camgirl.

I was not justifying behaviour, I was explaining that in these situations they are not always as black and white as: Camgirl meets member, deliberately manipulates him for 6 months spending a whole loads of extra time with him (for free I'm assuming?), convinces him that she wants to move in with him, convinces him that he needs to sent her $8k, then drops off the radar straight after (or in this case bans him) and takes the cash and moves onto the next dude.

Yes, this does occasionally happen, but 6 months is a long time to spend so much time chatting and spending all that time. Now if that time were paid for then that story makes more sense, but if the time were for free I would bet that there is more to this story than that.

I'm not justifying scamming of any kind, I'm not saying if it were different that taking the money would be right. All I'm saying is that we do not know what happened, we do not know the relationship or this woman's reasons. Even the craziest stalker could come here and sound like a kind, reasonable, concerned, regular dude. We have no idea if there's more to this story than he's telling. We don't even know if the $8k was actually just in tokens over the last 6 months for skype time. It wouldn't be the first time a member has pulled that sort of thing.

I'm not saying this guy is a crazy stalker, but as far as we know, he could be. These situations are rarely this black and white.

The only thing that I know about this dude is that he got very close to a camgirl, I'm not sure how old she is, but if she lives with her parents she's potentially fairly young, that he's had a fuck load of skype time with this girl and feels like he has a connection with her, and that he was willing to move a complete stranger he'd flirted with over the internet but had never met into his house, oh and he sent her $8k to do so.
Now he doesn't seem like someone who is really stupid, but that was one hell of a stupid thing to do, so either he is coming across as very different than he actually is, or there is more to this story than he is letting on.

Then seeing as upon her cutting him out of her life he comes to a forum that she frequents and very unsubtly explains his situation, knowing that she will read it and know it's about her, I would think that he's no stranger to manipulating people himself. Maybe he is just hoping for acknowledgement from us, but what advice can we really give in this situation? I don't think he's here for advice. He's here because whoever this girl is has cut him from her life and he wants everyone to act sorry for him on the site she goes on and make her look like a twat. Maybe this girl is a twat, I don't know, maybe he's totally in the right, but this is still what he's doing.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I obviously can't say for sure whether heat is making stuff up, but nor can I fathom why someone would pretend to have been silly enough to send someone they met on the internet $8000. That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, ya know?

 

[JoleneBrody]

I don't know the story other than that April 18th is the most common camgirl birthday ever aparently :lol: , but if this dude had ANY thought that things would still be possibly working out with this girl, this thread would not exist.

He has acknowledged that she is an active member here and made sly little info drops slowly revealing more and more about her... He's full of dookie. Sir, you are full of dookie.
While I do not deny that the story you are using unfortunately does happen, your story is hogwash and this thread is all a slow build up story intended to harm a model you are angry at for whatever reason.

And dang, if I aint right you sure know how to nail a coffin tight from the inside.
:roll:

 

[krukstyle]

I got to this thread late--and though at this point it is probably on the brink of spiraling into some deep pit--I'd just like to reiterate the most important advice given to said dude (it has been given several times above).

Stop. Just stop.

This applies to all of the possible scenarios I can imagine (including):

1) You are completely innocent in this situation. You were emotionally and financially manipulated by a cunning con artist. What you did was naive--and you have every reason to feel sad, jilted etc. Your subtle "hints" as to her identity veiled as concern were merely a momentary lapse in judgement fueled by the situation's frustration.
--You should stop because: pursuing this further will quickly turn you from the good guy into the bad guy. If there is another explanation as to why this is happening other than "it's a scam" or "it is over for [some reason]", I'm assuming said girl has a way to get a hold of you.

2) You are pursuing an underhanded and SUPER sneaky way of trying to badmouth/ruin a camgirl's reputation for some reason or another.
--You should stop because: it's not going to work, it's disturbing, and well... it pretty much seems like a fucked up thing to be doing.

I won't waste time by outlining other possibilities (you're both in the wrong, you misread things, etc.), but regardless of what is actually happening and/or already happened you just need to stop and step away from the situation. There isn't anything else positive that is going to happen here. I'd strongly recommend taking a bit of a "step back" from the camming world--go for a walk/run in the park, enjoy some other non-internet activities--and reflect upon the situation so that your refreshed self can better process how you should proceed in the future.

 

[DudeExtreme]

I appreciate all the positive and negative feedback from everyone.

Yes I have re-read every conversation that we have had on MFC and try to remembered all the conversations on Skype. I'm an aerospace engineer by trade so I'm trained to look at everything in detail. And everything points to her being true and sincere about our relationship and moving in. Let it be know that I wasn't one that put out the suggestion of us moving in together. That was her. We were originally planning a small trip together. And then one those talks got really deep and here is the statement that set the snowball in motion for us moving in:

"Can we just say fuck the trip and focus on moving my kitty and I instead?"

After that, I made a commitment to make this happen for us because I believe that we are good people who have had bad luck and finally found the right combination to make our lives happy. So with that, I'm lost for words in what the next step is because we had plans and lists so that by April 18th, her birthday, we would be together. But being blocked on every communication avenue and being radio silent, I dont know if I give up on the faith that we have a connection that means something to the both of us.

Don't worry about the birthday deadline thing. Take a few steps back and take a deep breath. Everything might be moving too fast for her and she may just need to do some self reflection and need a lot of space. There's no rush. If she is meant to be with you, it will happen.

If she communicates with you again, my suggestion is to take it real slow no matter if things real deep again. I highly recommend that if it's offered, meet with her in person and spent some time together to see if there is some real chemistry there. Hours of getting to know someone on Skype is fun and real, but actually meeting her in person and spending some time together, takes it to a whole different level. Take your time, there's no rush. That's just my two cents worth.

 

[DudeExtreme]

Let me just reiterate what all us girlies have been saying~~ But in song!

Let it Go


Bonus, it's in many different languages!

In all seriousness man, you have to let it go because unfortunately your relationship is done and over. If and when she sees this thread, she'll never want to have anything to do with you again.
I assume that isn't what you wanted?

Unless you were looking to vent, and looking for advice on how to cope with this..? Then you really went about it the wrong way.

Damn girl. You handled me a lot of hope with the song in dealing with my weight in several languages too. Awwww, you are too awesome!

 

[IvyR]

If you read my quote, you would see who I was replying to. It wasn't you. It was the other jackass, with his dumbass comment.

Yes yes name calling and acting like a 5 year old will certainly change my mind, good job.

I really enjoy how you call her for calling names, yet you're so high and mighty telling someone to get back on their meds...

Less mature than a 5-year-old AND more offensive. :roll:

 

[PunkInDrublic]

If you read my quote, you would see who I was replying to. It wasn't you. It was the other jackass, with his dumbass comment.

Yes yes name calling and acting like a 5 year old will certainly change my mind, good job.

I really enjoy how you call her for calling names, yet you're so high and mighty telling someone to get back on their meds...

Less mature than a 5-year-old AND more offensive. :roll:

Hey stupid, I wasn't the one who told her to get back on her meds.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Hey stupid

You could have handled that like a grown up and made your point, and she probably would have felt bad and apologized like a normal adult conversation...

But instead you did that above, and that's fucking mean. "Hey stupid" is probably one of the most childish and hurtful things you can say to someone. It's cowardly and cruel.

I respect your right to be a butt head sometimes but you should be ashamed of yourself right now. I'm ashamed of myself for ever sticking up for someone who would use the "hey stupid" line.

Ugh. Just mean.

 

[IvyR]

I guess the text blurred as I was scrolling or something because I actually thought it was the same poster. :lol: my bad.

You could see why I would have been "wtf"ing.

Jolene hit the nail on the head though. Obviously seeing my mistake I would apologize. And I still will for wrongfully accusing you. So I'm sorry.


And ya, "stupid" is pretty weak, man.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Hey stupid

You could have handled that like a grown up and made your point, and she probably would have felt bad and apologized like a normal adult conversation...

But instead you did that above, and that's fucking mean. "Hey stupid" is probably one of the most childish and hurtful things you can say to someone. It's cowardly and cruel.

I respect your right to be a butt head sometimes but you should be ashamed of yourself right now. I'm ashamed of myself for ever sticking up for someone who would use the "hey stupid" line.

Ugh. Just mean.

Seriously? haha stupid was too much? I'm sure she must be devastated by some dude on the internet calling her stupid for making a mistake. Probably just as devastated as the dude you called lame(granted he seemed kinda lame) in a different thread today and just as devastated as I am by random camgirl calling me a jackass and a dumbass.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

And ya, "stupid" is pretty weak, man.

Sorry if it upset you but it wasn't meant in the cruel hurtful way Jolene seems to think.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Hey stupid

You could have handled that like a grown up and made your point, and she probably would have felt bad and apologized like a normal adult conversation...

But instead you did that above, and that's fucking mean. "Hey stupid" is probably one of the most childish and hurtful things you can say to someone. It's cowardly and cruel.

I respect your right to be a butt head sometimes but you should be ashamed of yourself right now. I'm ashamed of myself for ever sticking up for someone who would use the "hey stupid" line.

Ugh. Just mean.

Seriously? haha stupid was too much? I'm sure she must be devastated by some dude on the internet calling her stupid for making a mistake. Probably just as devastated as the dude you called lame(granted he seemed kinda lame) in a different thread today and just as devastated as I am by random camgirl calling me a jackass and a dumbass.

Seriously man? You actually took a situation where a model wrongfully called you out for name calling and used it to name call?

It was probably mean of me to call that guy lame, even if he was. I'll admit that.
It wasn't right that anyone called you names, but that doesn't make it OK for YOU too and the way you did it was EXTRA cruel, IMO. Maybe it's because I'm dyslexic and "stupid" was one of those words that stung.

You should try to prove your point by proving people wrong, not solidifying the accusation.

And I'm sorry if I seem like I'm jumping all over you, but things like "stupid" and "dumbass" get thrown around so loosely but can do SO much damage.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I just think it's funny that one of the main suspects of immature name calling and irrationally accusatory responses on this forum has the nerve to say someone else was acting like a 5 year old.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I just think it's funny that one of the main suspects of immature name calling and irrationally accusatory responses on this forum has the nerve to say someone else was acting like a 5 year old.

Hey, just want to point out that the only time I resort to name calling is after models call me a name. I stoop to their level, I shouldn't but I do.

And loooooool@ you of all people pretending that you aren't the main suspect when it comes to name calling and acting like a five year old

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Actually you've called me names on threads that you hadn't even posted on. I've seen you in the past getting pretty nasty to models for absolutely no reason. Sometimes you retaliate, but not always.

And I'm pretty blunt with people, but name calling? Not so much. There's a difference between saying someone has done something extremely stupid or calling them stupid after they've done something that really implies so, and seeing a post that I don't like and going "Hey stupid" or some kind of childish defence/response. There's a difference between calling someone a name and "name calling".

I've had plenty of debates on here, but as far as I know I haven't ever irrationally lashed out at a person for disagreeing with me. It's one of the reasons debates and discussions on here are so good, because on one thread me and JJ for example could be thoroughly disagreeing, and in another thread it doesn't matter, most posters here know not to make it personal. I think that is something you should learn. You are one of the few people here who seems to attack the person rather than disagree with the post.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Actually you've called me names on threads that you hadn't even posted on.

lol I don't think this is even possible

 

[sanjisan]

All this reminds me of a woman that I used to know, wish I could say, she was just a camgirl. It was a lesson. that's all. Wish I had learned it but nothing will ever make me regret there is still desire running through my veins.

This goes out to all the guys about to fall for camgirls etc: you might find they are very normal women and most of what you think you know about them comes from your own dreams or the concept of her stage appearance. you might find it very exhausting keeping up with other men's money. and you might find out, knowing all this will not keep you from doing stupid things anyway. So relax and make sure you will still be able to smile about yourself when it's over.