Does a regular big tipper help or hurt earnings?

[Finchomatic]

Had this issue as well when I was being the whale in a room. Whenever I would show up the majority of the users would stop tipping and wait for me to finish the goals. So I wound up just creating a new user name and would tip like everyone else, but would leave large offline tips just to show my appreciation.

 

[Mille_baby]

So what would be considered proper tipping etiquette for a member whose favorite model is still trying to grow her room?

I would say, If nobody else is tipping, then just do your thing. I'm sure she's happy that you're taking her private.
If a couple of other people are joining in on the tipping, then it might be nice for her to have some time to connect with them after the goal has been reached.

You could also ask her what she prefers if you really want to help her out

 

[Lucid1]

I would say, If nobody else is tipping, then just do your thing. I'm sure she's happy that you're taking her private.
If a couple of other people are joining in on the tipping, then it might be nice for her to have some time to connect with them after the goal has been reached.

You could also ask her what she prefers if you really want to help her out

If some purple user is going to come into her room and tip 3 tokens towards a 300 goal to remove her shirt, and I tip the other 297 tokens because it has been two hours since she started the goal, I'd really hate to think that it could be viewed that I was hurting her income by doing what I am doing.

 

[bamdicted]

Had this issue as well when I was being the whale in a room. Whenever I would show up the majority of the users would stop tipping and wait for me to finish the goals. So I wound up just creating a new user name and would tip like everyone else, but would leave large offline tips just to show my appreciation.

If some purple user is going to come into her room and tip 3 tokens towards a 300 goal to remove her shirt, and I tip the other 297 tokens because it has been two hours since she started the goal, I'd really hate to think that it could be viewed that I was hurting her income by doing what I am doing.

@Lucid1 Of course you are not hurting her income, but maybe it would be more healthy for her to have more tipping towards the goal, and maybe you are in a situation like the one @Finchomatic describes.

 

[Smoothie]

Had this issue as well when I was being the whale in a room. Whenever I would show up the majority of the users would stop tipping and wait for me to finish the goals. So I wound up just creating a new user name and would tip like everyone else, but would leave large offline tips just to show my appreciation.

I had a similar situation - I was the regular high tipper for a model. A few times I would leave the show and come back before it ended (taking care of errands or whatever). I noticed her moderator (who never tips more than a few tokens while I am there) would tip a lot more during the times I was away. But I mentioned my observation to the model and asked her if I should spend a little more time away from her room, and she insisted I not do that just to accommodate another member. But it became clear that my presence was making other members decide not to tip (or at least not while I was around), which wasn’t a great feeling.

 

[Lucid1]

If I am being considered a whale, then something needs to be said about room dynamics. I spend 2-3 hours in her room out of the 6-8 that she works. I only send small tips for the first hour or so, so as to NOT affect the vibe of the room. But I do get frustrated(but I never reveal this in her room) when certain other purple members come into her room and only tip a paltry 3-5 tokens towards the current goal, and never tip anymore. So they are obviously getting their purple status in another girl(s) room. Models are smart, and they will eventually figure this out when the same purple users come into their room and only tip small amounts of tokens over a certain amount of time. That is why she doesn't mind my tipping methodology. She knows that I like to spend time with her, and that is why I never leave without showing my thanks by tipping her very well and spending time with her in private.

 

[Smoothie]

But I do get frustrated(but I never reveal this in her room) when certain other purple members come into her room and only tip a paltry 3-5 tokens towards the current goal, and never tip anymore. So they are obviously getting their purple status in another girl(s) room.

As a member, this frustrates me too. Purple freeloaders annoy me far more than greys. It’s basically telling the model “I actively tip models, but have decided you’re not part of my spending budget, despite the fact that I always hang out in your room.” It’s disrespectful as hell IMO.

One of my regular models has a purple visitor that’s been visiting her for at least 2 years. I haven’t seen him tip since the very beginning, yet he is always there. She didn’t ban him, but she did eventually stop acknowledging him.

 

[Ozzie_]

As a small tipper (I can afford the 2000 token package on stripchat once a month. Maybe twice a month sometimes ) this is my take.

If a big tipper is in a room I visit and they are slamming down the tokens in a way that effectively makes the room his private (public) show, then no I am not going to contribute my paltry few tokens. They seem (to me) to contribute little to the model's pleasure, may not even be acknowledged by her (naturally, as they can get lost in the chat amongst the "whale's" tips) and therefore give me no pleasure. I will save my tokens for another day. This includes the room of my favourite model with whom I have a very close friendship; with her there is always "another day" to play.

Do not get me wrong, I never begrudge a model receiving such attention from another user, it is their livelihood of course, but those times of a big tipper being present are not my highlights in a room

 

[rockin_rod]

This is a great discussion, really appreciate all the comments and different experiences.
Another consideration for me, is the fact that the model I had in mind when starting this thread, streams on multiple sites simultaneously.
So often when there is good tipping action on one site, viewers are enjoying the show on the other sites and either tipping nothing, or seeing a handful of 1's thrown down here and there apparently resulting in a good bit of activity.
I think this sends a message to new users, or those who don't really get it, that a couple of single token tips can get the model naked, or oiling her ass, or whatever. So they don't see that she's doing this because on another site, someone dropped a 500 token tip.

 

[lydialove]

From my experience, when a big tipper comes in- the ones that never had any intention of supporting the show will just let the big tipper carry the show. The ones that were tipping will continue to and will be excited for me. I really love when my big tipper takes me private though, because then the freeloaders don't get access and I'm willing to have way more fun.

 

[blayze_noir]

This has been an interesting conversation and has taken some interesting turns. There is quite the assumption that all or most purples have tokens, and lots of them. The color indicates how much spent over 2 weeks, we don't know a user's actual token count. If we consider @Ozzie_ above, he can only afford 2000 tkns/month. If he spends all that in one week then he'll be purple for 2 weeks while having no more tokens to spend. I know as a user I have gotten myself in this situation. On my old user account I really only visited one or 2 models and I let them know when I ran out of tokens and they were always understanding inviting me to stay or visit and to tip when I can afford it. Maybe it helps that I try to be polite and respectful and engage in conversation with the models and the room.

 

[bbbbadddd]

As a member, this frustrates me too. Purple freeloaders annoy me far more than greys.

Same. I'm always Dark Purple and Ultimate or whatever the highest on Strip is now but 95% of that goes to one person. I do go to other rooms at times but I don't sit there parked half the day every day as some do. And if I'm there for more than a few minutes I'll almost always tip something. Frustrating to see the same guys show up every damn day and never tip a single token.

I guess the one saving grace is that they do help room position some.

 

[rockin_rod]

This has been an interesting conversation and has taken some interesting turns. There is quite the assumption that all or most purples have tokens, and lots of them. The color indicates how much spent over 2 weeks, we don't know a user's actual token count. If we consider @Ozzie_ above, he can only afford 2000 tkns/month. If he spends all that in one week then he'll be purple for 2 weeks while having no more tokens to spend. I know as a user I have gotten myself in this situation. On my old user account I really only visited one or 2 models and I let them know when I ran out of tokens and they were always understanding inviting me to stay or visit and to tip when I can afford it. Maybe it helps that I try to be polite and respectful and engage in conversation with the models and the room.

Absolutely true. When I wear the moderator hat on CB, I pay much more attention to the users coming and going. And I often see the usernames purple one week, and pale blue the next. Next time they drop in, they're purple again. You can almost pinpoint when their pay check arrives - and I mean this sincerely, not as any judgement - we all have budgets and bills to pay.
More than one fellow mod has got on the model's wrong side by silencing a blue, only to learn that they are one of the regular 'spendy' viewers.

 

[bbbbadddd]

Had this issue as well when I was being the whale in a room. Whenever I would show up the majority of the users would stop tipping and wait for me to finish the goals. So I wound up just creating a new user name and would tip like everyone else, but would leave large offline tips just to show my appreciation.

I'll jump to another site for the same reason. From Cb to Strip or vice versa. depending on what's happening where. Sometimes that way you can even get people following your tips from the other site more it seems. e.g., I''ll tip on Strip, they'll answer with tips on Cb. If I did the same on the same site with them, they would not tip. They'd just sit and let me do it.

 

[Lucid1]

I'll jump to another site for the same reason. From Cb to Strip or vice versa. depending on what's happening where. Sometimes that way you can even get people following your tips from the other site more it seems. e.g., I''ll tip on Strip, they'll answer with tips on Cb. If I did the same on the same site with them, they would not tip. They'd just sit and let me do it.

It is interesting that the concept of the "free to register" camsite has survived this long, especially with the lack of a requirement to tip. I think this is an important distinction that needs to be made anytime a discussion of tipping habits is held. The token sites like CB, SC, MFC and others have always had a role to play in the discussion of tipping methodology, as there are different expectations from models on private based sites like SM, and that tends to shape the culture that exists among the members. But regardless of the type of site I am visiting, I have always held the belief that if a model has something that I am looking for, and I join her room and spend time with her, I will always reward her for her time and effort. I don't like the notion that I should put other considerations into my decisions to tip or go private, such as how my tipping might be affecting her room vibe.

I firmly believe that models are in control of their own destinies in how they operate their rooms, and it has been said here many times before, that at the end of the day, it's about the all important token. Asking me, as a member, to consider my tipping habits, is like putting the cart before the horse when using token sites, as it places the emphasis into the wrong area and seems to place me into the role of being a "bad guy" if I somehow tip "wrong" while in a models room.

 

[bbbbadddd]

Asking me, as a member, to consider my tipping habits, is like putting the cart before the horse when using token sites, as it places the emphasis into the wrong area and seems to place me into the role of being a "bad guy" if I somehow tip "wrong" while in a models room.

In general I'd agree. Not something that most should even think about. Do whatever you want. Don't worry about it.

There are cases though where there's more consideration involved. Above I'm talking about a long-time friend who I've known for years and beyond their room so I try to put what's in their best interests first more than I would in general. You can hurt someone by tipping big more than you help in some ways. e.g., Dominating a room every day over time will keep them from growing their users and developing other good regulars. There are several models who I liked a lot who I don't even bother to look at anymore because I know that the same guy will be there all day long. I was that guy for a while until I better understood that and stepped back.

 

[schruti]

Dominating a room every day over time will keep them from growing their users and developing other good regulars.

Indeed, and the same goes for communication.

If a room is very quiet, igniting a chat can be quite helpful. However, once other people pick up the topic and show their wits and humor, it's time to slow down and let the others shine.

 

[Lucid1]

In general I'd agree. Not something that most should even think about. Do whatever you want. Don't worry about it.

There are cases though where there's more consideration involved. Above I'm talking about a long-time friend who I've known for years and beyond their room so I try to put what's in their best interests first more than I would in general. You can hurt someone by tipping big more than you help in some ways. e.g., Dominating a room every day over time will keep them from growing their users and developing other good regulars. There are several models who I liked a lot who I don't even bother to look at anymore because I know that the same guy will be there all day long. I was that guy for a while until I better understood that and stepped back.

I would also agree in general, but I tend to dedicate myself to a single model, such as the one I see now. She knows from my spending habits that my purple status is obtained and maintained from seeing only her. If I started only tipping her 3-5 tokens when I see her, and maintained my purple status over the course of many weeks, I'm certain she would eventually question why I am tipping others. In my honest opinion, this is where CB falls short in the social aspects of their site. My tips for her should be registered for her only, and the color of my status should be displayed only for her. If I tip a model 1000+ tokens, then my color should be purple only to her. If I go to another models room, then my status color should start at the lowest level until I tip the necessary amount to move to the next color tier. This way, if there are multiple purple users in her room, then you can be certain that they are earning that purple color by tipping only her. Under such a scenario, if I look at the user list, and I see several other purple users, then as a member I would know that we are all there because we like this model. I long for the day that a site is developed that rewards both the models and the members from a personal spending and loyalty perspective.

 

[BlackWizard]

In my opinion is not good. I had one tipper for 6 months everyday 1400-4000 tkns per day, but when he didnt come i had distaster and i was worying what will be when he will leave me one day and he did. And from that time im earning much much more I also had situations that when my regulars where coming and they were seeing that somebody tip good (one person) they were only watching and one even said: i see you are in good hands,see you next time The best is having regulars like 1-2-3times per week, or just many like 1 in week + new ,then usually on each day somebody will come and now i have that kind of situation and my earnings raised up totally from the time when left the one who were tipping me everyday. I will never forget him and he always will be my hero because he made me feel rich and safe on chaturbate but from business point of view is better not to focus only on him and him being only one tipper. People will notice veeeeeeeery fast that he will come and show will happen so they dont need to start do nothing My room is not so popular - i mean i earn good but not many people,maybe in rooms when is thousands is different but well when its thousands then automatically u have more than one guy like that hihi

 

[rockin_rod]

I would also agree in general, but I tend to dedicate myself to a single model, such as the one I see now. She knows from my spending habits that my purple status is obtained and maintained from seeing only her. If I started only tipping her 3-5 tokens when I see her, and maintained my purple status over the course of many weeks, I'm certain she would eventually question why I am tipping others. In my honest opinion, this is where CB falls short in the social aspects of their site. My tips for her should be registered for her only, and the color of my status should be displayed only for her. If I tip a model 1000+ tokens, then my color should be purple only to her. If I go to another models room, then my status color should start at the lowest level until I tip the necessary amount to move to the next color tier. This way, if there are multiple purple users in her room, then you can be certain that they are earning that purple color by tipping only her. Under such a scenario, if I look at the user list, and I see several other purple users, then as a member I would know that we are all there because we like this model. I long for the day that a site is developed that rewards both the models and the members from a personal spending and loyalty perspective.

I think this makes sense from the point of view of a user that likes the model to see their loyalty, and the model would probably also like to see this - but many members have no particular allegiance, nor should they be expected to have it. Perhaps token-based sites should just have 2 colours - those without tokens, and those with. And get away from the whole hierarchy of status by colour.

 

[blayze_noir]

Perhaps token-based sites should just have 2 colours - those without tokens, and those with. And get away from the whole hierarchy of status by colour.

This would be very cool. Being purple can have its "privileges" (for lack of a better term), but sometimes it also comes with unwanted attention. In some rooms I have had this following scenario happen on occasions I was purple: "hey there. I couldn't help notice your color. let's go private baby" or "hey bb. let's go private. why not? you're purple." I'd rather other people in the room not know my spending habits and the models not have any expectations until we get to know each other.

 

[rockin_rod]

This would be very cool. Being purple can have its "privileges" (for lack of a better term), but sometimes it also comes with unwanted attention. In some rooms I have had this following scenario happen on occasions I was purple: "hey there. I couldn't help notice your color. let's go private baby" or "hey bb. let's go private. why not? you're purple." I'd rather other people in the room not know my spending habits and the models not have any expectations until we get to know each other.

Yes I've been thinking about the 'benefits' of having a colour system. The only things I can think of is that it is considered a power symbol by some, that it could be a site incentive to spend more and aspire to be dark purple, and that it places a user higher in the user list tab the more they spend. Not necessarily desirable to everyone, as you said some like to stay discrete - and CB already gives you the option of limiting the highest colour your name is displayed in.