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Hey guys! My girl and I are gonna be doing webcamming and I was just wondering if you guys thought (based solely on looks so far lol) that we could be successful?? I did it solo a few times, just male solo takes so much time to really make it worthwhile, I made a little bit of money but soon stopped, just based on low viewers. My girl turned 18 in June and I'm 28 (don't worry I didn't meet her until after she was 18 ). I have about 500 followers or so last time I checked, should I use my old account so I start with some viewers or should I start fresh?IMG_20171110_182247_790.jpg received_133107790785232.jpeg received_134204194008925.jpeg

TL;DR - Based on pictures do you think we can be successful cramming? Should I start fresh profile for us or use my old one with some followers already on? Do you have any tips for us starting out??? Thank you so much!
 
She would likely do better on her own. She's really young and if y'all do this she should perhaps understand the full implications of camming. Defs send her here to read up on things.


Looks necessarily can't predict success though. Some of the most beautiful folks don't do well. Some average folks kill it. Hard to say.
 
Agree with Serenity- She should be on Streammate by herself - Or MFC- honestly she will make WAYY more solo. Boy/Girl is not as lucrative as you think.

Also looks have 0 to do with anything. It's about WAY more than looks.
 
You both look so young I'd be shocked if CB didn't ban your account as soon as you started actually gaining some following.
 
You both look so young I'd be shocked if CB didn't ban your account as soon as you started actually gaining some following.

That happened to me multiple times actually lol and I was wayyyyyy old enough haha

She would likely do better on her own. She's really young and if y'all do this she should perhaps understand the full implications of camming. Defs send her here to read up on things.


Looks necessarily can't predict success though. Some of the most beautiful folks don't do well. Some average folks kill it. Hard to say.

Yeah I understand totally what you're saying, thank you. On the whole solo thing, she is totally against doing it solo, she only wants to do it with me, that's why I was asking. Well thanks guys...
 
If you aren't married and ya'll are going to cam together I hope you have the sense to draw up a formal contract on what's going on with income if you do leave videos up and split up.

Honestly if she's that hesitant about going at it solo this sounds like it's more your idea than hers and given that she basically just turned 18 I'm not sure how I feel about the whole dynamic of this situation. Just based on the information I have here.
 
If she’s newly 18 and doesn’t want to cam alone, I’d be extremely apprehensive about encouraging her to cam at all. It’s a big decision. Like @Serenity_Tam said, have her read here and truly consider the long-term impacts before doing it.
 
In terms of having what it takes... there's no way to know. I agree that you both look very young! You two are very pretty, but camming also requires a lot of personality, the ability to learn new skills quickly, and a certain amount of luck.

I agree x 1,000,000 that if you care about her, you need to make sure that she's done some substantial research for herself. At her age, it's rare to have much of a grasp on your future plans. Camming can close doors for her with future jobs, romantic partners, friends, and family. Based on age and gender, it's likely that she has a lot more to lose than you do, so it's important that she knows the risks and rewards.

On top of that, as a couple, she will be the star of the show. Viewers will want to interact primarily with her, and she'll be the main salesperson for you two. If she hasn't done her homework and is relying on you to do all the heavy lifting, the outcome won't be optimal.

Send her over here to read up, and then see what she thinks! It's natural to feel nervous no matter what, but if she's informed and feeling good about camming, that's a great start for success.
 
If she’s newly 18 and doesn’t want to cam alone, I’d be extremely apprehensive about encouraging her to cam at all. It’s a big decision. Like @Serenity_Tam said, have her read here and truly consider the long-term impacts before doing it.

I will definitely have her do that for sure! You are definitely right about her reading more up on it!

why is she against camming solo but not with you? genuinely curious

To be honest I really don't know the exact reason. If she brings it up and I mention her doing it SOLO she just tells me she has zero interest in it. She just keeps telling me she wants to do it with me and not by herself. I think having someone there with her makes her a lot more at ease and comfortable.
 
In terms of having what it takes... there's no way to know. I agree that you both look very young! You two are very pretty, but camming also requires a lot of personality, the ability to learn new skills quickly, and a certain amount of luck.

I agree x 1,000,000 that if you care about her, you need to make sure that she's done some substantial research for herself. At her age, it's rare to have much of a grasp on your future plans. Camming can close doors for her with future jobs, romantic partners, friends, and family. Based on age and gender, it's likely that she has a lot more to lose than you do, so it's important that she knows the risks and rewards.

On top of that, as a couple, she will be the star of the show. Viewers will want to interact primarily with her, and she'll be the main salesperson for you two. If she hasn't done her homework and is relying on you to do all the heavy lifting, the outcome won't be optimal.

Send her over here to read up, and then see what she thinks! It's natural to feel nervous no matter what, but if she's informed and feeling good about camming, that's a great start for success.

Thank you so much for your reply, and to be honest I didn't think about it closing doors with future jobs. I'll definitely have her do a lot of research! Oh and yes definitely look young lmao most people can NOT believe I'm almost 30 lol
 
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I don't think it matters what you look like. I think chemistry, charm and charisma go a long way. Imparting the human aspect of "yes we are a RL couple, yes we are very into each other" goes a long way towards couples success. I've seen couples, 3somes & group where they all look so bored and jaded. As if they'd rather be anywhere else but on cam. That's not stimulating or arousing to anyone. Just be very genuine and loving on cam and I think you'll do OK
 
I don't think it matters what you look like. I think chemistry, charm and charisma go a long way. Imparting the human aspect of "yes we are a RL couple, yes we are very into each other" goes a long way towards couples success. I've seen couples, 3somes & group where they all look so bored and jaded. As if they'd rather be anywhere else but on cam. That's not stimulating or arousing to anyone. Just be very genuine and loving on cam and I think you'll do OK

Definitely good point! So true about the charisma and chemistry, if you look and it feels like you're pretty much being forced into it for money then there's
 
Thank you so much for your reply, and to be honest I didn't think about it closing doors with future jobs. I'll definitely have her do a lot of research! Oh and yes definitely look young lmao most people can NOT believe I'm almost 30 lol

Honestly, it really rings a lot of alarm bells that you never thought about how camming could impact a future career or really just life in general. That alone tells me you are not aware at all of the stigma you are asking your very very young girlfriend to take on for the rest of her life. The internet is not going anywhere. If she gets naked on the internet even one time, she is now naked on the internet forever. Not to mention risks of stalking, being blackmailed, and having her personal safety threatened. All of this will only get more and more real as facial recognition software continues to improve. I am not telling you this to say that 100% this will happen, I am telling you because these are the real risks cam models (especially women) face and you both need to be aware.

I agree with everyone else that you should send her here to do her own research because this has to come from her, not you.
 
I'm here to be the buzzkill.
I'm 32 and my partner is 22. We got together when I was 29 and he was 19. I refuse to cam with him or make vids where his face may be visible. As the older and more experienced partner I have an obligation to him to not let him do anything that he might be considering only because of me that may have implications on his future life.

If he wants to cam on his own he's free to do as he please but he won't be camming with me. If he made the choice to start on his own I would then later consider working with him.

What if we break up? Will he look back and be upset with me because he did it for me and now he can't have certain types of jobs? Will his family find out and be angry with him? Will this cause problems with future partners? What if a potential future partner stumbles across a video of him fucking me? How will they feel? But especially how will he feel about me and how I treated him if any of that goes to shit down the road?

There is SO much to take into account here. A lot of young people get into relationships with older people (and let me tell you that 10 years makes a huge difference when the younger partner is THAT young) and look back years later and feel taken advantage off because they did something and didn't really realize what they were getting into.

Sex work is a big decision that can mar a persons future career and relationships and you should be 100 percent sure if she starts camming she is doing it for HER not because she secretly just wants to make you happy.

There are other things you can do as a couple like making clips. Even ones where her face is hidden with a mask (Most cam sites are fussy about masks but I believe there are clip sites that are cool with it). But absolutely make sure she takes everything into consideration. Obviously we want to feel like our younger partners are equal to us but in terms of life experiences sometimes they are not and it's important to not let them do things for us that could alter the rest of their life negatively. Especially in a brand new relationship.
 
Obviously there are some solid concerns to be addressed, but I want to point out that so far the OP:
  • Seems to be listening to advice
  • Seems to have consideration for the desires and well-being of his partner
  • Has taken an interest in additional research
  • Has attempted camming all by himself (!!)
  • Hasn't called a single one of us a stupid bitch
This puts him approximately two light years ahead of nearly every other guy that has come to a cam forum wanting to know about couple's camming. I say that with a tiny grain of humor but absolutely no sarcasm or mockery. So far, so good, OP! Come back and keep reading. Hopefully we'll get to hear from your gf, too... :)

EDIT: Just in case, though, if you decide camming's not right for you or your gf, you might want to contact the site owner and ask if she can remove the pics in your first post. If your gf decides not to cam, she might not want her face posted on a public camming forum.
 
EDIT: Just in case, though, if you decide camming's not right for you or your gf, you might want to contact the site owner and ask if she can remove the pics in your first post. If your gf decides not to cam, she might not want her face posted on a public camming forum.


While I agree that so far he has been quite polite and pleasant, its actions like this though that worry me that he may not care that much about her well being. I hope OP obtained his gf's permission before he posted the photos otherwise that was a pretty risky and thoughtless thing to do.

Please prove me wrong OP! I want to believe!

But until then, yeah, I have some concern for his teenage girlfriend who he seems to want to groom for porn.
 
Alright, I've been at this for almost half a decade and we're about the same age, so I'm gonna take you on a journey of Hard Reality here. And I do it with love.

99.9% of 18-21 year olds are in no way, shape, or form prepared to cam. Period. Let me emphasize again: period.

Why? Well, realistically, how much life experience does she have? And I don't mean to demean her or you by calling her naive. She could be incredibly mature for her age, but she has only recently graduated high school, is unlikely to have been to college for long if at all, unlikely to have lived alone if at all, unlikely to have been responsible for bills, etc. So, basic Adulting 101 is still a new skill set to her. Hell, it was a 'new' skill set to me until I was about 23, and I was considered one of those super mature 18 year olds with my shit together.

And besides life experience, how much sexual experience does she have? Camming is not for the faint of heart. It's going to be a lot of men treating her like a fuck hole, to be blunt. She'll be screamed at, demeaned, insulted, and jerked around. On the best of days, she'll be bringing pleasure to other men for money, in ways she may not always be 100% comfortable with. We can sugar coat it all we want, but every sex worker has to come to grips with the fact that their job involves a degree of objectification and being placed on a pedestal. It means taking something that society has taught us is personal, sacred, and not to be shared, then monitizing the shit out of it. Even if you're there to hold her hand, that sits with a person. Going into sex work without a firm grasp of your own identity, both personality wise and sexuality wise, is a recipe for disaster because she almost definitely doesn't know herself well enough to separate what happens at work from her own, still-forming, view of sexuality, self, and the world.

This job impacts world view. You stop looking at people with rose-tinted glasses and see all the disgusting bullshit they can pull. Sometimes it's good, but other times it makes you distrustful and less able to engage with people. You know how cops see the very worst of society and you can just tell that it impacts them? Sex work is no different.

On top of all of that, there's the present and future impact on her 'real life' that it would have. What is she going to tell her friends? Her family? Will she work another job, or fumble trying to explain her employment gap after spending months/years doing sex work she can't put on a resume? Know now that if she goes into sex work with you, the door is superglued shut to teaching, any work with children or vulnerable populations, religious organizations, and so forth. Even if her future career doesn't ask, they can fire her without explanation for it. I had a friend who stripped several states over through college, then got outed 5 years later when she was a floor nurse; she lost her license because the board saw it as 'unprofessional conduct' and a 'reflection of poor character.' What will you do for her when (NOT IF!) word gets out and people, inevitably, shame her, demean her, and shun her publicly? Best case scenario, she has to live with lying; worst case scenario, she's permanently and royally screwed. Neither are fun.

And what about strangers? How about if some crazed fan finds out her name and info and comes after her? Yeah, that shit happens with alarming frequency, and even the most vigilant can't do much. Don't think it could happen? You've already given me your age, her birthdate and age, and photos to go off of--on a very public, highly-ranked forum that is the top of every google search. Information slips out of even the most careful workers. Whackos are happy to take full advantage.

And what about you? How will you respond to the inevitable accusations lobbed against you when it gets out? Again, when, because it ALWAYS GETS OUT. You're 10 years her senior. Her family, her friends, and maybe even yours will look at you with a deep sense of mistrust, at best. At worst, they'll accuse you of manipulation, abuse, and grooming a barely-legal young girl. Don't kid yourself.

Moreover, why do you want to cam together? For extra cash? Because it's sexy? People will ask WHEN they find out, and those answers will sound flimsy at best. You'd better have a rock solid reason, that she 100% agrees with, or you're asking to be flayed alive by an angry crowd.

She's been 18 since this summer and you met her afterwards? Your relationship is brand new. You're older, and cooler, and she probably looks up to you and desperately wants to please you. She'll probably do things outside of her comfort zone hoping to make you happy. On top of it, she almost certainly has no idea of the potential consequences of getting into this job. Take a good few minutes--right now--to consider how much that's impacting her 'yes' to camming with you as a couple.

You cool with all those implications and potential issues? I wouldn't be, personally, and you seem like a reasonable dude so far, so I don't know that you would be either.

I really could go on, and on, and on. I won't. Hopefully this giant wall of text gets the gears turning enough for you to realize that sex work means every worst case scenario is now a plausible reality. Is the potential extra cash worth it? So you make a few hundred and she hates it; all of the above still applies. You make a steady income? Still applies. You end up the 1% of 1% of 1% who make it big? Still applies. It's a lot of risk for a low possibility of reward.

Bottom Line -- you may have what it takes, but I highly doubt she does. So to answer your thread title directly - NO!
 
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I don't think it matters what you look like. I think chemistry, charm and charisma go a long way. Imparting the human aspect of "yes we are a RL couple, yes we are very into each other" goes a long way towards couples success. I've seen couples, 3somes & group where they all look so bored and jaded. As if they'd rather be anywhere else but on cam. That's not stimulating or arousing to anyone. Just be very genuine and loving on cam and I think you'll do OK
This can be said for solo models as well.
 



Wow, seriously some effing good info there!!! To be honest, I feel depressed and kind of a scumbag/terrible person right now. I definitely didn't take into account how much she might be just trying to please me/look up to me and how that could be her whole reasoning behind it. I also didn't think enough about future jobs for her and such. Probably because it honestly didn't even occur to me, maybe because my future is kinda screwed and I honestly don't know what to do and how I'm going to support a family, due to criminal record :( (Nothing crazy/violent but still I am a felon). In short (because I'm at work right now lol) I am going to tell her this is not something we should do at the moment and if it's something that she still wants to do down the road, maybe we will revisit the issue. Please don't think I was trying to exploit her. Thanks for all the info guys! I'll still check back for more ;P
 
Wow, seriously some effing good info there!!! To be honest, I feel depressed and kind of a scumbag/terrible person right now. I definitely didn't take into account how much she might be just trying to please me/look up to me and how that could be her whole reasoning behind it. I also didn't think enough about future jobs for her and such. Probably because it honestly didn't even occur to me, maybe because my future is kinda screwed and I honestly don't know what to do and how I'm going to support a family, due to criminal record :( (Nothing crazy/violent but still I am a felon). In short (because I'm at work right now lol) I am going to tell her this is not something we should do at the moment and if it's something that she still wants to do down the road, maybe we will revisit the issue. Please don't think I was trying to exploit her. Thanks for all the info guys! I'll still check back for more ;P

You're not a scum bag for not realizing something. I'm really glad you came and asked here and took all this on board. You're taking advice and learning and that's honestly all you can do! I'm really impressed with your responses to this. I wish you guys lots of luck.

Working with a felony can be hard - but don't give up. I used to hire felons... there are resources out there. The military can be an option - they often will overlook non violent felonies.

Here's a list of companies I found that hire felons
 
Wow, seriously some effing good info there!!! To be honest, I feel depressed and kind of a scumbag/terrible person right now. I definitely didn't take into account how much she might be just trying to please me/look up to me and how that could be her whole reasoning behind it. I also didn't think enough about future jobs for her and such. Probably because it honestly didn't even occur to me, maybe because my future is kinda screwed and I honestly don't know what to do and how I'm going to support a family, due to criminal record :( (Nothing crazy/violent but still I am a felon). In short (because I'm at work right now lol) I am going to tell her this is not something we should do at the moment and if it's something that she still wants to do down the road, maybe we will revisit the issue. Please don't think I was trying to exploit her. Thanks for all the info guys! I'll still check back for more ;P

You're not coming off like a scumbag. Echoing what @Ms_Gingersnatch said, you've been respectful and receptive of our advice which is more than we can say for many guys who come around these parts asking for help!

If you wish to continue as an erotic model, fetish clips may also be an option. Women will always make more in this industry, but there are still opportunities for cis men to carve out a niche and make money.

As far as the felony issue, some of the more liberal non profits will overlook it, too, especially those that tackle social issues. An old friend of mine got a job at the Working Families Party soon after she got out.
 
Wow, seriously some effing good info there!!! To be honest, I feel depressed and kind of a scumbag/terrible person right now. I definitely didn't take into account how much she might be just trying to please me/look up to me and how that could be her whole reasoning behind it. I also didn't think enough about future jobs for her and such. Probably because it honestly didn't even occur to me, maybe because my future is kinda screwed and I honestly don't know what to do and how I'm going to support a family, due to criminal record :( (Nothing crazy/violent but still I am a felon). In short (because I'm at work right now lol) I am going to tell her this is not something we should do at the moment and if it's something that she still wants to do down the road, maybe we will revisit the issue. Please don't think I was trying to exploit her. Thanks for all the info guys! I'll still check back for more ;P

I'm really pleased with your response to this. Not what I was expecting at all.
 
If you wish to continue as an erotic model, fetish clips may also be an option. Women will always make more in this industry, but there are still opportunities for cis men to carve out a niche and make money.

Absolutely. Especially on Clips4sale, it's feasible for men to do quite well with fetish clips.
 
If she wanted to cam at 18, she totally should. But, having you on live cam with her will basically cost her money. A big part of the decision whether to cam or not depends on how lucrative it will be, right? I'd go with the Clips4Sale suggestion. You venture into this alone. Learn about it. See what you have to offer her. If she does it alone, she's money. No one wants to cost their partner money. Don't cam with her until you feel you can bring so much to the table that she earns more than she would without you.
 
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First and foremost, I would like to give you this:
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Seriously, we get a lot of people around these parts asking questions about becoming models either solo or with a partner, and the vast majority don't want advice so much as they want confirmation that it's all gonna be rainbows and sunshine and Scrooge-McDuck-diving-into-a-swimming-pool levels of money. They get angry when reality isn't that. You didn't. High five!

Secondly, and for you specifically, don't give up hope. You've got a job now, even if it's not one you love money or career wise. Do that job well, build references, and be an A+ employee. When you go looking for other jobs, take that resume and those references with you and apply in person. Telling someone no via email? Easy. Telling an honest person to their face to fuck off? Much harder. Be honest, be blunt, and be thick-skinned. Employers know people make mistakes in their lives. If you've been a good employee elsewhere and show openness about your past, you'll find a good job. Sure, plenty will tell you no, but there are plenty of OTHER people out there who've been in your position and will not just respect your effort to move past it, but empathize and want to help. And you can always petition to have your record cleared after enough time. It sucks, but that day will come when it doesn't matter anymore.

Sex work isn't the only option by a long shot. A lot of people with felonies end up opening their own businesses. You could too. You can also work from home for extra money, not just in cam but also working for a call center, transcribing, translating, captioning videos, etc. ODesk/UpWork, Mechanical Turk, and sites like those are rife with ways to make extra money from home. Sure, it isn't a lot of money, but if you stick to it you can get to a point of making $10-25/hr in side cash, which is comparable to what a lot of couples make camming and even dudes working solo.

Good luck.
 
Seriously, you seem like a decent dude who cares about his g/f and her well being. If this is something you are interested in doing alone then def check out c4s and a few other clip/cam sites. If she is ever interested in camming alone it will probably be much more lucrative for her solo......for me personally I always live cam solo but I do shoot b/g videos and do a few b/g skype sessions here and there. I always find b/g cam shows/videos to be much more lucrative when they aren't done on the daily..... its a special show that you pay top dollar for.

I won't get into to much detail but at 19 I was introduced to camming by an older adult male. Im not sure that I would of ever found it on my own and I dont regret my decision but 10 years ago there wasn't the resources there are today to research and know how this lifestyle will impact you for the rest of your life. There is always that saying of "if I knew then what I know now" and I can 100% say that today knowing all the facts I would look at this decision a lot harder. Now this is not to say I regret my decision, I love my job and have no/very few regrets about getting into this industry but it does close doors for you.... I and a lot of girls here have made a career out of this but its not always fun or easy... its hard work and can cost you a lot of relationships with your friends and family along the way. The best thing you can do for her is let her make an informed decision. For me personally I LOVE my job and will continue to do it for as long as possible. I have a lot of friends and family that are very accepting of what I do but I also lost a lot of friends along the way. Just give her the time to grow up, mature and make her own decisions..... it will all work out in the end.
 
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