Why I no longer tip - one member's experience

[IsabellaSnow]

Interesting Matt lol. Wasn't entirely sure about the point you were trying to bring across, but appreciate the post anyway. Every model does things differently, personally I think if people do a countdown for a cumshow, that is what you do, if you say 'tip to keep the show going' with a smaller countdown, or say have control tips etc then that is part of the show, then stopping/starting determined to tips would be ok. But I think if you're in a countdown, if people tip you during or after show that's amazing, but I'm not going to stop the show if no one does as there are those who have tipped! I stated how much I need for it, and if I get that, I do it. The only time I've ever stopped a countdown briefly is because I've had very annoying freeloaders who are making me uncomfortable and making the vibe of the room change, and then it has literally just been to ban them. Very annoying that I have to stop for me as much as viewers, but anyone who has tipped I think forgives me for not wanting to try and get off with my legs open on cam with someone there saying freaky stuff!

I think tipping for videos is a good idea though, my video sales always go to the countdown so it's a double sale, plus if you've spent over 150 you'll be able to pm me. It means you're supporting a model you like, getting to see a live show, see her smile etc when you tip for the vids, and then after you get videos to watch whenever you want!

 

[LadyLuna]

It seems that models are complaining that this is hurting them financially.

The way it's hurting, is that many models will get no one but freeloaders in their room. They never do the show, cause they were never tipped for the show, and everyone passes them by. A lot of people on MFC don't get that the shows aren't free. That someone has to start tipping for the show to happen. So you get models with an awesome show planned out who can't do it because no one's tipping for the show.

It's now much harder for a girl to stick to private and group for shows. It can be done, but it won't make her much. When I started MFC, I was making $80-$150 a day, and the only thing I did in public was a nudity countdown with flashes along the way. Everything else was group and private, and very few people complained about that.

Fast forward a year. Everyone wanted a free show, or a public show. I was not comfortable doing a public show. One guy claimed to be willing to shell out 2000 tokens for a public show, but not to take me private or group. No one cared that I wasn't comfortable with a public show, where anyone, no matter what their age, could walk in on it. And the few that did decide to take me private wanted me to do things that would ruin my pussy or ass. Shove a 2-liter up there? No thanks, I'd rather not get prolapses when I'm older. I had to leave MFC, because of bills. Everyone was sad, wanted me back on MFC, but no one is willing to PAY for me to stay on MFC.

So MFC has to be relegated to the hobby place, and when I'm trying to earn enough money for two people to live off of, and do all the housework cause my partner's in school and working part time just to pay his debts, well... I don't have much time for hobbies that don't stress me out. Forget about a hobby where I have to spend half my time banning assholes who want to insult me just because I won't give them anything but conversation for free, and I won't haggle my already too-low prices down because "20 tokens is too much!"; and banning assholes who just like to try to make a model cry, and banning the ones who want me to call them daddy and beg them not to violate my virgin pussy (and then take a break to cry that such people even exist in this world).

MFC is not for me anymore. The freeloaders and trolls have taken over the site and ruined it for me. And I hate that, because it was so much fun before. I miss the old MFC.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Also when a model states there are 2500 people in the room. 1800 of them are guests and like 400 basics. Premiums who can tip are always the minority in a room at any given time

While it is technically true that 2200 of 2500 people in a room could be guests or basics, it doesn't mean that the only ones that can tip are premiums.Guests and basics can tip, they just haven't yet. Everyone that comes to MFC at some point, for some period of time (some shorter periods of time than others), are basics or guests.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Also when a model states there are 2500 people in the room. 1800 of them are guests and like 400 basics. Premiums who can tip are always the minority in a room at any given time

While it is technically true that 2200 of 2500 people in a room could be guests or basics, it doesn't mean that the only ones that can tip are premiums.Guests and basics can tip, they just haven't yet. Everyone that comes to MFC at some point, for some period of time (some shorter periods of time than others), are basics or guests.

I was just thinking the same thing! Being a guest or basic does not really make buying tokens any harder than if your a premium. Especially for basics who already have a name. I would say the time it takes for a basic to go prem and tip is maybe 3 seconds longer than for a premium to buy tokens.
MFC makes it VERY easy.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, to me it's amazing when I see a Basic with a sign up date of 2007 or even earlier. And the ones I've seen aren't even contributing conversation, in rooms they're allowed to talk... just giberish. Ban them on sight if they've been on for a year! lol

 

[JoleneBrody]

Yeah, to me it's amazing when I see a Basic with a sign up date of 2007 or even earlier. And the ones I've seen aren't even contributing conversation, in rooms they're allowed to talk... just giberish. Ban them on sight if they've been on for a year! lol

I know of quite a few members that still have an old basic account for when they don't want to or cant chat/tip. Just for lurking purposes until whatever they are tangled in (phones call, email, dishes, soap operas) is done and they can join in. They still wanted to at least keep up to speed.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, to me it's amazing when I see a Basic with a sign up date of 2007 or even earlier. And the ones I've seen aren't even contributing conversation, in rooms they're allowed to talk... just giberish. Ban them on sight if they've been on for a year! lol

I know of quite a few members that still have an old basic account for when they don't want to or cant chat/tip. Just for lurking purposes until whatever they are tangled in (phones call, email, dishes, soap operas) is done and they can join in. They still wanted to at least keep up to speed.

Oh, definitely. But when you see a Basic in the same room night after night for 2 or 3 hours at a time... just lurking. When I was new to MFC, a guy who was a reg in a room I became a reg in started PMing me... he bragged about how he has several premium accounts... one for this room, another for his "favorite model," and yet another for "trolling. lol not exactly the same thing as Basics lurking but I thought it was both funny and sad.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

The reason I do public shows is publicity more than anything! If I go into a private although I entertain that particular person, that is the only person I'm entertaining. If people are tipping for a show etc, it may attract more tippers and then during the show it can be the same. If I put on an epic public show, many people remember it and come back for more.

The second reason I often aim for public shows is that it means I may only masturbate once of twice in a night. It means if I play, I've got my aims done, and well, at the end i'm usually pretty excited! Plus I get to take my time, do my thing etc. I love privates, but public shows do bring more people in! yes it also brings more freeloaders in, but can also bring more tippers in too! I still love privates, but I also like entertaining!

 

[Julia_Storm]

Before we get started, this is my first post on the forum (great idea to start a forum btw Amber) and it is not meant to be argumentative. It is my hope that I can share my experience in a manner that is beneficial to the members of this site.



So a bit on my experience:

I first joined MFC in mid 2011, and immediately made the transition from basic to premium; I made my first token purchase within an hour of my discovering the site. I probably spent my 200 tokens that same day and did so by spying on privates and joining a couple group shows. It didn't take long before I began to appreciate the benefits to taking girls private and I gained lounge1000 access within weeks. I would say over the first 9 months of my membership I spent over $10,000 on various private shows since, at that time, the way to obtain the content I sought required me to pay for private shows.

However, I haven't purchased tokens since June, and the reason for my decline in expenditure has nothing to do with finances.



The problem:

From what I have seen, it has become increasingly apparent that the way to make money on MFC (amongst top earners, at least) is through building a room count and counting on <1% of the room to tip generously, either to meet countdown objectives or to gain perceived status within the room. For some premium members, garnering the model's attention is a goal worth tipping for; however, I am not that member and I suspect there are many who feel similarly. I come to MFC to masturbate, I apologize for being crude but that's the reality. I don't frequent the site in an attempt to make friends with the models or foster some kind of fantasy where my tips are going to garner the model's favor such that we can meet in real life and live happily ever after together (I suspect some members think this way). I stopped buying tokens, not out of concern for personal finances, but because so much of what I originally was spending money for had become free. I've noticed in my limited time on the site that many models who were never naked in public a year ago are now naked there consistently, and many who reserved toy play for private shows now do so in public chat.

I feel this is the core issue that fuels the concerns I've seen on this forum of reduced earnings and the proliferation of freeloaders. I would liken it to a paradigm where one goes grocery shopping and everything in the store is free; the store accepts donations from its patrons but requires no payments. How many of you, models included, would donate the amount commiserate with the groceries you took rather than simply taking what you need and allocating those funds to an activity that doesn't give you the option of enjoying it for free?

I am not entirely sure what my goal is with this post, other than to say that models shouldn't condemn members for freeloading when freeloading is the rational way to approach MFC. Instead, they should blame their fellow models for allowing this behavior to become acceptable. I'm reminded of the caution many mothers pass on to their daughters, 'no one's going to buy the cow if you give the milk away for free'.

Rather than condemn freeloaders I think the models on this site should condemn those amongst them who offer free shows that disincentivize members from paying for content.



Again, I didn't post this to be a jerk or to pass judgment on anyone. Upon browsing this forum I merely came upon a lot of misplaced aggression towards freeloaders. If I'm way off base, then so be it. I am happy to elaborate on any element that is unclear and hope that my experience can be beneficial to members and models alike.

If all people would think like you...mfc would have no models to get free stuff from

 

[legmanct]

I think in reading this thread that one thing is clear from both the models and members...

We seem to really miss the old MFC.

 

[mynameisbob84]

In the interest of full disclosure, I haven't read the thread. Apologies if the following has been mentioned/discussed at length.

For some premium members, garnering the model's attention is a goal worth tipping for; however, I am not that member and I suspect there are many who feel similarly. I come to MFC to masturbate, I apologize for being crude but that's the reality. I don't frequent the site in an attempt to make friends with the models or foster some kind of fantasy where my tips are going to garner the model's favor such that we can meet in real life and live happily ever after together (I suspect some members think this way).

That'll be the problem, sir. You categorise tippers as people who only tip because they think it's ultimately going to benefit them and non-tippers as people who have seen the light and realise that no matter what they tip a girl, she's not going to thank them with a blowie. You're looking at things in very black and white terms, yo.

"If I tip this girl, she'll shower me with attention and maybe one day she'll let me rag the shit out of her"

vs

"I'm enlightened enough to know that no matter how much I tip this girl, she's never gonna so much as let me sniff her panties"

There are shades of grey, ya know? When I tip a model, it's 'cos I think they're kinda cool and I enjoy their company. But I also recognise that however cool they might be, they're ultimately providing a service, and not a charity. They're not keeping me entertained or getting their jubblys out because they have some burning desire to entertain internet strangers; they're doing it because it's their job. They provide a service in exchange for a paycheque. So that also factors into me tipping. I'm conscious of the fact that by hanging out with these ladies and watching them intermittently get jiggy wit' it, I'm making use of a service; a service that the girl deserves to be paid for.
It doesn't matter that I'm not going to get laid once I've tipped x amount of tokens, and it doesn't matter that I'm not obligated to tip anyone. I know I should be tipping, and for me, that's enough. Do you tip your waitress? Do you leave a donation when you take one of those funky little charity badges they keep at the shop counter (do they do those in America land?)? Do you pay for albums and films or just download them? There are lots of little things in life that, should you so choose, you can enjoy with paying for. But no matter how you try to justify it, that never means that you should, ya know?

 

[ga5457]

Things have changed since I joined as well. One of the first models I spent a lot of time with used to just do privates, and stayed fully clothed in public chat. Seeing a nipple slip was a joyous and special thing. She was very popular, and her name would occasionally pop up in the top twenty list during the course of the month. Now she does public shows. It has been a long time since I hang out with her so I have no idea why she changed.

That sounds like the first model I became friends with. She never did public nudity until she got a boob job. She recently made #2 for the month.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I read the whole thread, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around WHO spends $1000 a month on internet porn.

I mean no offense, it's your money, you're free to spend it on whatever you like.

However, from my view spending $1000 a month on internet porn seem more like a psychological problem than a luxury.

No offense... but between what you can gleen for free, and perhaps $50 a month I'm not able to grasp what it is that you need that badly.

If I had a kid that was blowing a grand a month on internet porn I'd sit him down and point out all of the wonderful stuff he's not buying.

Romantic dinners and dates with women who will actually love and fuck you.
Savings for your children
Retirement security
Gifts for your loved ones
for fucks sake... give $400 a month to an animal shelter, $400 to a homeless shelter, $100 for the lovely hard working cam girls and $100 for a monthly chat with a cut rate shrink.

I'm sorry if it pisses anyone off, but if the OP isn't a shockingly wealthy person, he has a some serious personal issues.

Quite frankly, even if you're shockingly wealthy, blowing $1000 a month on internet porn is a waste.

And I know, there are people to whom 1K is like $10 to the rest of us. It's actually a pity that money ends up blinding people to that degree once they get it, and they forget it's value to do something constructive.

The idea anyone spends $1000 a month, to beat off in front of a computer gives me a headache, a nose bleed and makes me really, really sad all at the same time.

For $1000 bucks a month, you could make a wife really, really happy. Just sayin. :?

 

[mynameisbob84]

I read the whole thread, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around WHO spends $1000 a month on internet porn.

I mean no offense, it's your money, you're free to spend it on whatever you like.

However, from my view spending $1000 a month on internet porn seem more like a psychological problem than a luxury.

No offense... but between what you can gleen for free, and perhaps $50 a month I'm not able to grasp what it is that you need that badly.

If I had a kid that was blowing a grand a month on internet porn I'd sit him down and point out all of the wonderful stuff he's not buying.

Romantic dinners and dates with women who will actually love and fuck you.
Savings for your children
Retirement security
Gifts for your loved ones
for fucks sake... give $400 a month to an animal shelter, $400 to a homeless shelter, $100 for the lovely hard working cam girls and $100 for a monthly chat with a cut rate shrink.

I'm sorry if it pisses anyone off, but if the OP isn't a shockingly wealthy person, he has a some serious personal issues.

Quite frankly, even if you're shockingly wealthy, blowing $1000 a month on internet porn is a waste.

And I know, there are people to whom 1K is like $10 to the rest of us. It's actually a pity that money ends up blinding people to that degree once they get it, and they forget it's value to do something constructive.

The idea anyone spends $1000 a month, to beat off in front of a computer gives me a headache, a nose bleed and makes me really, really sad all at the same time.

For $1000 bucks a month, you could make a wife really, really happy. Just sayin. :?

So, wait. I'm a little unclear here. Are you saying you WOULDN'T spend $1000 a month on porn? :-D

 

[Anonymous]

Well don't look at it as $1,000/month. Look at it as $33.33/day. :mrgreen:

 

[victor0021]

I read the whole thread, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around WHO spends $1000 a month on internet porn.

I mean no offense, it's your money, you're free to spend it on whatever you like.

However, from my view spending $1000 a month on internet porn seem more like a psychological problem than a luxury.

No offense... but between what you can gleen for free, and perhaps $50 a month I'm not able to grasp what it is that you need that badly.

If I had a kid that was blowing a grand a month on internet porn I'd sit him down and point out all of the wonderful stuff he's not buying.

Romantic dinners and dates with women who will actually love and fuck you.
Savings for your children
Retirement security
Gifts for your loved ones
for fucks sake... give $400 a month to an animal shelter, $400 to a homeless shelter, $100 for the lovely hard working cam girls and $100 for a monthly chat with a cut rate shrink.

I'm sorry if it pisses anyone off, but if the OP isn't a shockingly wealthy person, he has a some serious personal issues.

Quite frankly, even if you're shockingly wealthy, blowing $1000 a month on internet porn is a waste.

And I know, there are people to whom 1K is like $10 to the rest of us. It's actually a pity that money ends up blinding people to that degree once they get it, and they forget it's value to do something constructive.

The idea anyone spends $1000 a month, to beat off in front of a computer gives me a headache, a nose bleed and makes me really, really sad all at the same time.

For $1000 bucks a month, you could make a wife really, really happy. Just sayin. :?

My brother has been divorced 3 times, and he lost all these great things you talk about each time that they bought them together. I've never been divorced and have all the great things you are talking about. If i'd give him any advice now it would be, spend sometime and money on MFC stop marrying girls dumbass. Just saying.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

That's a very defeatist attitude. You don't find what you don't look for. My brother was married 7 times, his last wife he was with for many yrs and he cried like a baby for a year when she died.

Imagine his loss, if he had give up at wife# 3 and dumped all his money into internet porn and gave up.

I've never been married, I've been in dozens of flamed out relationships. The last one ended after 16 years when she too, died. Imagine my loss if I had stopped looking and parked my bank account and a brain on the internet after the first few heartbreaks.

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month. That's a lot of porn.... who has that much free time?
:lol:

 

[JoleneBrody]

I feel like something is being missed here. I'm not saying everyone needs to buy 1000 bucks worth of tokens per month but MFC is not the same as internet porn. MFC is being personally entertained by a live person daily and often for hours on end.
If it was just about the porn I highly doubt MFC would still be around.
I've spent $1000 bucks in a month tipping on MFC. Not once have a masturbated but I sure had a lot of fun.

 

[victor0021]

That's a very defeatist attitude. You don't find what you don't look for. My brother was married 7 times, his last wife he was with for many yrs and he cried like a baby for a year when she died.

Imagine his loss, if he had give up at wife# 3 and dumped all his money into internet porn and gave up.

I've never been married, I've been in dozens of flamed out relationships. The last one ended after 16 years when she too, died. Imagine my loss if I had stopped looking and parked my bank account and a brain on the internet after the first few heartbreaks.

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month. That's a lot of porn.... who has that much free time?
:lol:

My point was more to each his own, what other people do with there time and money is there concern. What makes you happy doesn't always make someone else happy, and honestly people that spend a lot on MFC aren't there just to jerk off. That's what you see it as.

 

[UncleThursday]

OK, so I guess it's time for me to weigh in.

As someone who works a job where I don't get paid nearly enough for what I do, has bills, etc. I still find money for tipping/groups/privates on MFC. Not all the time, mind you, but I still have it often enough. In some cases, I have to plan ahead for long privates, maybe even scheduling with the model I want to have that private with. In others, I may be a little more impulsive and then potentially regret it as the last days before payday arrive. :lol:

But, I have never thought that just because I could sit in the lounge 1000 and get as many public shows as I want, or just go to the model rooms where I know that a public show will happen, that I should never tip/group/private again.

And, for the record, I hate the term "free show" when used for public shows. Unless the show is truly free, as in no one pays anything for it, then it has been paid for to happen in public as opposed to group or private. I know of ONE absolutely free show that happened in all my time on MFC. A model was in her room for no more than a minute and plainly stated, "I'm super horny today, and I'm going to cum in public, even if I don't get tipped for it." And by god, she did... but people, including me, tipped her anyway. I think she ended up making just about what she would have normally asked for a public show, anyway.

Now, as to not wanting to tip because you don't have to tip to find a public show; that's on each individual member, basic or guest. But, keep it to yourself. Honestly, no member who does tip/group/private wants to hear how you just eschew buying tokens because you don't have to. No model does, either.

Because many of us enjoy tipping/grouping/going private. We enjoy our favorites smiling and maybe laughing at our silly tip notes. Maybe we're just horny that day and know that our tips help to get the model to do what will help us get off, ourselves. We enjoy those groups when we're feeling the urge to be in them. Or those privates where we want some alone time to be a little extra naughty with the models (and the added benefit of the archives for later use when we're broke ).

None of us has to buy tokens. We can lounge it all day if we have the time, and catch dozens of public shows, if we truly wish to. But, we want to. Whether it be for making a model happy, or just to help us get our rocks off with her. If the OP doesn't want to buy tokens, that's his prerogative. But don't go around bragging about it and then say it's the models' own faults for this, because of all the public shows that go on. They're only free to the freeloaders, like the OP, not to the people who tipped to get the public show going.

Besides, most of the girls that don't do public shows end up being very, VERY good privates. :evil:

 

[Anonymous]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

 

[JoleneBrody]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

In this case I would relate MFC to a bar and a camgirl to the bartender. Many people spend a lot of money going to their favorite bar after work, bull shitting with their friends and having some relaxed time at the end of the day. You know, those ol' boys who are always sitting at the bar. Yeah some people may not understand it but those ol' boys who have been going there everyday for years likely wouldn't trade it for anything. They gladly tip the same bartender everyday because her and her establishment give them a place to social and kick back.
I assure you those ol' boys spend more than $1000 bucks a month WITHOUT a drinking problem.
For many members I assume MFC is just like this, or any other luxury. A fancy smanzy cup of coffee from a coffee shop or a trip to the movies once a week. We all treat our selves to things on a regular basis that cost quite a bit over a month. Mine is cigarettes and sushi. I cut back when I can't afford it but when I can I'm happy to splurge because it brings me joy. And in the end, that's what I'm working for right? To be able to live my life with joy.

 

[Loslonelyboy]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

In this case I would relate MFC to a bar and a camgirl to the bartender. Many people spend a lot of money going to their favorite bar after work, bull shitting with their friends and having some relaxed time at the end of the day. You know, those ol' boys who are always sitting at the bar. Yeah some people may not understand it but those ol' boys who have been going there everyday for years likely wouldn't trade it for anything. They gladly tip the same bartender everyday because her and her establishment give them a place to social and kick back.
I assure you those ol' boys spend more than $1000 bucks a month WITHOUT a drinking problem.
For many members I assume MFC is just like this, or any other luxury. A fancy smanzy cup of coffee from a coffee shop or a trip to the movies once a week. We all treat our selves to things on a regular basis that cost quite a bit over a month. Mine is cigarettes and sushi. I cut back when I can't afford it but when I can I'm happy to splurge because it brings me joy. And in the end, that's what I'm working for right? To be able to live my life with joy.

This right here just about makes me think the reasons I quit MFC were stupid and I should just come back and enjoy myself with my buddies at the bar again...because I fuckin' enjoy it! :handgestures-salute:

 

[LindseyDoll]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

Perhaps he just means it's because the OP said he only used MFC to fap, and never really socialized or cared about the girls on cam. If there's no social aspect, no tipping just to see someone smile, then I understand why $1000 just seems kinda excessive.
Seriously I don't think he was saying that there's anything wrong with spending that much on models you care about, more that $1000 is a lot for a guy to spend on his own penis.

At least that's my interpretation

 

[LadyLuna]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

Perhaps he just means it's because the OP said he only used MFC to fap, and never really socialized or cared about the girls on cam. If there's no social aspect, no tipping just to see someone smile, then I understand why $1000 just seems kinda excessive.
Seriously I don't think he was saying that there's anything wrong with spending that much on models you care about, more that $1000 is a lot for a guy to spend on his own penis.

At least that's my interpretation

Thank you Shelterlight. I was trying to reconcile these with the other posts from PaulieWalnuts. Would love to hear from him if you are right about this.

I actually agree- if you're JUST using MFC for internet porn, then $1000 a month is quite excessive. But if that's all you're using MFC for, you're missing the whole point of it. Go watch some tube site if porn is all you're after.

For those that use it as a social gathering place like a gentleman's club or bar, then I can totally get spending however much they can and want to.

I still believe $20 is a lot of money, and I hope I never lose that belief.

 

[Anonymous]

Perhaps he just means it's because the OP said he only used MFC to fap, and never really socialized or cared about the girls on cam. If there's no social aspect, no tipping just to see someone smile, then I understand why $1000 just seems kinda excessive.
Seriously I don't think he was saying that there's anything wrong with spending that much on models you care about, more that $1000 is a lot for a guy to spend on his own penis.

At least that's my interpretation

If he's just talking about the OP (who proudly admitted to being a freeloader), that's one thing. But it sounds like he's talking about guys IN GENERAL who drop big bucks on MFC models. And based on some of the other responses on here, I'm not the only one who interpreted his post that way. Maybe he should've just worded it differently?

And, as I said before, him calling it "internet porn" that "isn't worth that much" is what rubbed me the wrong way. And interacting with a LIVE cam girl that you really like is a little different from internet porn.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Internet porn is for short term satisfaction, not a life investment. And it certainly isn't worth a grand a month.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I DO get what you're saying (the amounts of money some members spend on MFC is shocking...not necessarily a BAD thing, though)...but the bolded part of your statement kinda rubs me the wrong way. MFC is more than "internet porn," for some of the members on the site. They're not all on there to just jerk off and then log off. They get to experience LIVE webcam chat with lovely ladies they enjoy and look forward to seeing x times a week. We are a form of entertainment and - for some people - the highlight of their day, so who's to say how much it's "worth" a month?

Perhaps he just means it's because the OP said he only used MFC to fap, and never really socialized or cared about the girls on cam. If there's no social aspect, no tipping just to see someone smile, then I understand why $1000 just seems kinda excessive.
Seriously I don't think he was saying that there's anything wrong with spending that much on models you care about, more that $1000 is a lot for a guy to spend on his own penis.

At least that's my interpretation

Honestly, $1000 isn't that much money when it comes to privates/groups. For $1000 you get 10,000 tokens (I didn't take into consideration higher token packages when I figured this out). If you were to ration those tokens up over 30 days, you'd only have tokens for roughly 5 and a half minutes a day of private time. For the same 10,000 tokens you can buy your way into roughly 16 hours of group shows a month or about 33 minutes a day.

I can easily see how someone who is strictly using MFC as a masturbation tool could spend $1000 or more a month.

 

[Shaun__]

If you do general tipping, and a couple of true privates a month then it is very easy to spend hundreds on MFC. Then if you add gifts to do something extra special for a friend or help someone with a financial goal so they can do something important to them it bumps up even higher. I may spend a lot of money on MFC, but all my bills get paid, I go on vacation, and buy things like my tanning bed just for the hell of it. I decided long ago I will never be rich, only middle class, and do not place any real value on money or material things.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I read the whole thread, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around WHO spends $1000 a month on internet porn.

I mean no offense, it's your money, you're free to spend it on whatever you like.

However, from my view spending $1000 a month on internet porn seem more like a psychological problem than a luxury.

No offense... but between what you can gleen for free, and perhaps $50 a month I'm not able to grasp what it is that you need that badly.

If I had a kid that was blowing a grand a month on internet porn I'd sit him down and point out all of the wonderful stuff he's not buying.

Romantic dinners and dates with women who will actually love and fuck you.
Savings for your children
Retirement security
Gifts for your loved ones
for fucks sake... give $400 a month to an animal shelter, $400 to a homeless shelter, $100 for the lovely hard working cam girls and $100 for a monthly chat with a cut rate shrink.

I'm sorry if it pisses anyone off, but if the OP isn't a shockingly wealthy person, he has a some serious personal issues.

Quite frankly, even if you're shockingly wealthy, blowing $1000 a month on internet porn is a waste.

And I know, there are people to whom 1K is like $10 to the rest of us. It's actually a pity that money ends up blinding people to that degree once they get it, and they forget it's value to do something constructive.

The idea anyone spends $1000 a month, to beat off in front of a computer gives me a headache, a nose bleed and makes me really, really sad all at the same time.

For $1000 bucks a month, you could make a wife really, really happy. Just sayin. :?

Ok Paulie, I have two words for you: Disposable income.

When I was studying fashion/marketing we used to spend a lot of time looking at customers and what they spend on. There are some people who have fairly high wages, but they also have a wife/husband, children, a dog, a cat, mouths to feed, a mortgage, which means their free money (which is another word which I can't remember right now) actually doesn't come down to much.

But you get some people, in fashion it's the kind of women/men who'd shop at high end high street or maybe even designer shops. Yes to many many people buying a dress worth £800 if ridiculous, but if you're earning 4 grand a month, you don't have children, not currently saving much for the future, your apartment could cost you an extra grand a month, but you still end up having a couple of grand left over after essentials, so hey! you put 1 away into savings, and you spend the rest on shopping! Or some people go out for meals/order take away every night/day, never cooking, it works out the same.
In this case the luxury/thing you'd be buying is interactive porn.
You absolutely never know someone's situation. Some people don't want to get married, some don't want/don't have children. Yes that money could make a wife very happy, but if you ain't got no wife and can't get no dates, then does that mean you shouldn't spend it on something that you do enjoy?

It's very easy for someone else to say "Oh my god, you spend so much on that! you could give some to charity!" Without once looking at their own spending.

I think you'd only have a problem spending that much if you couldn't afford it and did have a wife/family, because then you'd run them/yourself into the ground. If you're single you are allowed to be selfish with your money, and I don't think it's fair for other people to bitch about it because they chose a different life. Yes it's a lot, but I bet there are things everyone spends a bit too much money on! With me it's nice food and going out with my friends, for smokers sometimes they're dirt poor but choose to spend £15 on cigarettes a day! I know some people who spend £20 per day on taxi's when there are easy buses/things are in walking distance! It's silly but it's a luxury that person it choosing to enjoy! If having a decent wank per day is what someone wants, then who says they can't have it because it's not how we'd spend our free cash?

 

[Matt255]

Too much stuff to quote at the moment. Men and some women of all ages come to MFC to masturbate and live a fantasy. I do not understand why people forget this part. When I heard of MFC my friend was like "Hey there's this website where chicks fuck themselves and other girls all you have to do is tip them sometimes". Paulie brings up a good point spending your life and or ridiculous amounts of money on MFC is wasteful. I almost spit out my drink when I read the comparison of MFC to a local bar. You get paid to get naked, masturbate, sell homemade porn videos, and various raffles. My bartender does none of these things.
When I tip my bartender its because they work long hours and the pay is low. They went to school to become a bartender and it takes some skill. I tip on MFC to see your breast, ass, pussy, and cum show. Comparing it to a strip club would be more accurate. Give some singles while she is on the pole (public chat). Take her to the lap dance room or vip room (private,true private). Also its LIVE person to person interaction the stripper and customer can see each other. Can any of you pick out 5 of your regulars in person? This is internet amateur porn granted there are a few porn stars on the site. Most of the members are socially awkward people getting to live out a fantasy. But, outside that fantasy they have a real life that is waiting for them. Some of you probably have wives and husbands to attend after you log off.