Jupiter551 said:
Isabella_deL said:
Ignore the freeloaders!!!
I see a tramp on the side of the road getting people to give him their money, I don't think "hey! how come he gets it so easy? He doesn't have to work, pay rent etc, why don't I start doing that?!"
Neither do I see someone I know who lives in benefits for pretty much no reason and think "Right, i'll quit my job and do the same, doss around the house all day and scrounge off the government!"
I see these people all the time, but it doesn't influence my decisions in life. So why on earth should you?!
If you're getting upset that you spent 20 tokens on a girl and got the same experience as a guest, then either stick to the same camgirls room, get to know her, and tip some more, maybe tip enough to be entered in raffles or to buy videos, and then you're getting a show and merchandise.
160 tokens does make a difference, it's a fiver, which in england is just below minimum wage for an hour. And it shows appreciation. Punishing a girl because "Someone else tipped far more than me and now I feel insignificant" is stupid! This isn't a dick measuring competition, you shouldn't be thinking about anyone else in the room except you and the girl.
No groups should NOT be 1 token a minute, that is fucking ridiculous! Because yeah, a 20 minute show should cost you £1.20!! Maybe if there were an option for something like that but it was treated more like at the end of a countdown people can use their 20 tokens to join in and the freeloaders wouldn't get the show, but like JickyJuly said you'd need 60 people there for it to make the same as a private, I personally think groups are too cheap, I think they should be 20 tokens per person so that having 3 people in a group means you make the same as a private rather than half. It is why I do not take groups, plus lots of people really don't like them. Every time I take a group I usually get persuaded by one person, who spends under 5 minutes in the show!
A lot of members do not like doing groups full stop. I think if this became the case members who paid their wonderful 1 token per minute would start being very demanding etc, I think it would encourage freeloaders more, if a freeloader can get into a group show for 10 mins only for their 10 tokens, then yeah they'd probably spend their 10 tokens but act like trolls, this would quite likely put other people off.
10 tokens a minute is already dirt cheap for what you're getting. If you're a model who gets more than 5/6 members in at a time then it's a great option, but for me it's just not worth it as it is.
isn't private spying 20 tokens a minute tho? groups can potentially be FAR more lucrative than privates - and is it the three members' fault if no one else joins or remains in the group? Btw I'm not arguing about 10 tokens per minute, but keep in mind also that 3 people at 30 tokens per minute is better than sitting around in public chat making nothing per minute - which is a situation plenty of models find themselves in.
Groups are iffy, truthfully. They have the potential to be more lucrative, but they also have the potential to not really make much at all.
If a model goes group, she starts making 30 tokens a minute with just the initial 3 guys. It can go up or down from there. In sme cases, I have heard models complain that the group just ends up being one guy very quickly.
Now, some models do really well in groups, overall. CuteHermine, as an example, can easily do 5-6 groups a day. She can also easily do 4-6 privates a day. She normally doesn't have a topic up, so she doesn't make a ton in just tips in her room. But she still has over a 3700 camscore. Even so, she also won't continue a group if it drops below 3 members.
Then you get other models who can get dozens of people in group. Dakota18 (I think that's her name) is a non-nude very high camscore model. Whenever she is in group, if you check how many people are in her group show, it is normally pretty high. Close to 30 or more people at a time. Shy has started doing groups again, and she can easily jump to 20+ in group right away.
But, not every model gets this. I'd say the average group is probably closer to 4-6 people for the majority of the time.
So, if a model can get at least 10 people in group for the majority of the time, I would say she probably would be a model that would consider doing a lot of groups. For the models that only get 4-6 people for the majority of the time? They probably could do just as much, if not more in public or just doing privates.
Besides, spies can be a lucrative way to earn extra in privates, over groups, too. Last night the sister of a model I am friends with did her first private on her account. The sister, when she started, decided to be non-nude, but apparently that meant only for public. The guy took her private for close to an hour, so if we round that up we'll just say she made 3600 tokens from that private. But, the newer model didn't know people could spy, and got a little embarrassed when she found out after the private that other guys were watching. But, here's the thing. She made an
additional 3k+ tokens from spies. So, me and her more experienced model sister had to explain the difference between regular private and true private. For the record, I did not spy. I am considering taking the sister private, though, eventually. *pervy look*
But, she will probably be insistant on a true private, which is fine.
Granted, earning 3k+ tokens in spies from one private is not going to be the norm for most models. But, as a potential for extra earnings during privates, spy tokens are there. The spies pay twice as much as group, but get no interaction. So, she makes the 60 tokens per minute of the private, plus the potential for 20 more tokens per minute per spy.
Not every model does privates, though. A lot of models who do public shows feel they can earn more from staying in public than going group or private. And this is potentially true, because room counts tend to drop dramatically as soon as a model goes groups or private. But that's the difference between MFC and sites like it, as compared to sites where models can't do anything in public and only make money off of privates.
