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Let me apologize for the long post, but what happened is hard to condense. This has got to be unusual even in the cam world.

I love women. I genuinely do. I love conversing with them, joking around, just being friends or more.

Until recently I never really thought about webcams but on a whim I decided to check it out. Taking into account what I said above it sounded interesting. The chance to chat with different women and reward the most interesting with a few tips. It's not something I remotely regarded as a dating site, just entertainment since I was bored at the moment.

Sooo. I clicked on one chat room (a different site and model who will remain unnamed) and lo and behold I saw a young woman who was (at least to me) one of the most beautiful visions I had ever seen. I'm not the smoothest talker in the world, but I do know how to build a rapport. Keep her laughing, be interesting, be different, so I automatically interacted that way. She seemed to enjoy the chat so I went back a couple of times to chat with her. She's a sweetheart. Romanian girl. I adore her. Bright, educated, charming. Fantasy or real I really did feel romantic attraction. She got the old endorphins flowing for sure.

Anyhow, to condense a long story a little I eventually just concluded to myself that she was just doing her job. Last time I talked to her she really didn't pay much attention when I popped in. Guess I did feel a bit hurt by that but didn't take it too personally. So I figured that was that. The fun was over and the idea that I was special to her in any way was all my imagination. Still, she does have a nice figure and since I'd never even asked her to show her goodies in private (the interaction we had going was just more enjoyable), when she went into a private chat with someone I decided to blow off my last credits. I did the spy thing just to see what I'd been missing before I threw in the towel. After all, she's just doing her job and won't care, right? That's when I got blindsided. Never saw this coming.

She suddenly gets a shocked look on her face, grabs something to cover herself and goes off camera. If she wasn't genuine in her reaction then I'm calling the academy because she deserves an award. Turns out she was apparently much more aware of my screen name than I assumed. She'd spotted it in the spy area and didn't take it very well. I chatted with her afterward and she was pretty upset that I'd seen her that way. She said she was embarressed and that if I wanted to see her naked then I should have done it in our private chats because it would have been more intimate. It seemed as though she felt that me seeing her perform for another guy degraded her in my eyes. Of course, I apologized profusely and tried to explain myself. She eventually forgave me and we got back to our previous state of things (more or less). If that was a hook and not genuine then she's a cam girl genus. I can't see how it was fake. I teased her a little that I now knew what was in her heart despite her attempts to hide it, which she tried to downplay. But really, I can't imagine someone reacting like that, walking out during a private chat even, if there's nothing emotional going on, know? That mixed with worrying whether she'd get in trouble for it makes it uncomfortable to say the least.

That just leaves me dangling. On one hand, the site TOS prohibits giving or taking private information or dating the models so trying to pursue this would be breaking the rules. I imagine that her employer prohibits the same things and I wouldn't want to cause her problems. Besides, I'm getting to be an old dog. This gal is in her latter 20s and I'm 20 years older. All that and thousands of miles make pursuing something look impossible.

On the other hand, I just can't shake the idea that my dream girl seemed to actually have feelings for me no matter how well she otherwise hid them. That's the kind of thing that haunts you for life without closure.

I can't even begin to imagine what the right thing to do is. Maybe those more familiar with this whole cam world can give me some insight. I sure would appreciate.
 
If I was you I would end up being really good friends with the model. Then we would have a huge public fight over something stupid. Then she would accuse me of trying to control her with money, and I would deny it. Then I would say something here to get other opinions, and everybody would yell at me and say not this shit again. I hope I helped you a little.
 
Every woman is different. Camgirls aren't robots. My all time favourite cam model who I will *always* log on for when I get a notification, I have never seen nude. We've discussed it, I've joked about it but we're friends - she'd feel uncomfortable about it and frankly so would I.

Don't get me wrong, she's stunningly beautiful but...I was going to say it's complicated but you know what? It isn't. She and I are friends - as much friends as people can be over the internet anyway.

I've never taken her private, I've never tipped her much (couple hundred on her birthday, amazon gift certificate for christmas, 50 here and there for fun - but those aren't tips for her attention or whatever, they're gifts because I appreciate her friendship).

As some here know, I've had some serious problems with my cat getting sick, and the vet bills have been bleeding me dry. Yesterday, while at home she contacted me to ask about Kato (my cat), because she knew he was going in for surgery earlier that day. We talked for a couple hours about vets, pets, dealing with loss, strange girls I've dated, weirdo guys she's dated, just chatted like a couple of friends.

She asked me to email her a scan of Kato's ultrasound and xrays so she could take them to HER vet to get a second opinion. I tried to ask her how much it would cost and that I would feel bad if it cost her too much but she wouldn't hear of it - refused to discuss money.

So anyone who says camgirls only pretend to be your friend to get money or whatever, they're wrong (in some cases).

None of the attention or affection she shows me, or I show her, should be misconstrued as "romantic feelings".

She's Romanian too btw, and probably in the same studio as your friend because they don't get naked except in private, or in my friend's case true private.

The point of my long-winded personal experience is simply this - friendship and respect is much rarer and more precious than lust. My guess is she doesn't have "feelings for you", she had/has respect for you and respect for herself.

So what would I do? I'd be realistic and realise that she deserves a bit of respect, apologise, and don't make fantasy romances in your head.
 
There are a few things you could do, take more time getting to know her online at said camsite, get her other online modes of communication (Yahoo Messenger, Skype, etc. etc.) to talk to her away from the camming aspect of this type of job that she has., see if she is willing to share a phone call or three. spend the money to actually go to see her and take her on a short vacation from her real life. ( plan on spending approximately $5,000 to cover the flight, lodging, food and any play time) flight times from the midwest is approximately 14 hours to Romania and has 2 layovers depending on the airline you choose.

Romania is a beautiful country in spots but very congested in others, you will see architecture older than anything here in the US and there is a LOT of corruption, never leave anything in the vehicle if you think you need it. There is a lot of petty crime at least in the areas that I was at.

Get to know her and what her true thoughts are, it could be the best thing you could ever do if you decide to meet up with her in person, could also make your life a living hell. Either way, it is a trip worth taking just to say that you left the country and took a chance on life. :twocents-02cents:
 
GreatDane said:
There are a few things you could do, take more time getting to know her online at said camsite, get her other online modes of communication (Yahoo Messenger, Skype, etc. etc.) to talk to her away from the camming aspect of this type of job that she has., see if she is willing to share a phone call or three. spend the money to actually go to see her and take her on a short vacation from her real life. ( plan on spending approximately $5,000 to cover the flight, lodging, food and any play time) flight times from the midwest is approximately 14 hours to Romania and has 2 layovers depending on the airline you choose.

Romania is a beautiful country in spots but very congested in others, you will see architecture older than anything here in the US and there is a LOT of corruption, never leave anything in the vehicle if you think you need it. There is a lot of petty crime at least in the areas that I was at.

Get to know her and what her true thoughts are, it could be the best thing you could ever do if you decide to meet up with her in person, could also make your life a living hell. Either way, it is a trip worth taking just to say that you left the country and took a chance on life. :twocents-02cents:
From the way he described their interaction Dane that sounds like a fantastic way to scare her off completely. Being polite and enjoying someone's presence in your chat room doesn't equal going to meet them and fall in love.
 
It sounds like she MIGHT actually like you. If there is no other way of finding her contact info. (twitter, email, fb, etc) then I don't see how it will work. If it's not going to work, you are wasting your time being so involved with a fantasy that you might miss out on a REAL life girl. Like you said, you are older, and you are only getting older. Will you be happy on your death bed tipping this model your last tokens knowing it will only ever be a friendship? If so, cool. If not, leave the site and go find something REAL. Unless you can get her contact info. some how and make it real.
 
Jupiter551 said:
GreatDane said:
There are a few things you could do, take more time getting to know her online at said camsite, get her other online modes of communication (Yahoo Messenger, Skype, etc. etc.) to talk to her away from the camming aspect of this type of job that she has., see if she is willing to share a phone call or three. spend the money to actually go to see her and take her on a short vacation from her real life. ( plan on spending approximately $5,000 to cover the flight, lodging, food and any play time) flight times from the midwest is approximately 14 hours to Romania and has 2 layovers depending on the airline you choose.

Romania is a beautiful country in spots but very congested in others, you will see architecture older than anything here in the US and there is a LOT of corruption, never leave anything in the vehicle if you think you need it. There is a lot of petty crime at least in the areas that I was at.

Get to know her and what her true thoughts are, it could be the best thing you could ever do if you decide to meet up with her in person, could also make your life a living hell. Either way, it is a trip worth taking just to say that you left the country and took a chance on life. :twocents-02cents:
From the way he described their interaction Dane that sounds like a fantastic way to scare her off completely. Being polite and enjoying someone's presence in your chat room doesn't equal going to meet them and fall in love.
Yeah, I know, but it's not out of the realm after getting to know her and she has a chance to get to know him. I went last year for the main purpose of seeing Bran's castle (Dracula's Castle) and met up with one of the girls that lived in that area. had a blast glad that I went and happier that I met her face to face than c2c, We both knew that there was no expectations going in and we didn't expect anything from each other. She was an awesome guide and knew more about Brasov than I would have learned from any of the guided tours that were offered.

Would I go back, YES!!! Would I go just to meet up with a cam girl? no, but I wouldn't rule out meeting up with any of them. But I like to learn about other areas first hand, it brings more of the reality and depth to what you learn when the sights and smells are there too. You can read about the architecture and know that it's old, but when you can touch those stones and mortar, it sinks in that what you have just touched is older than the country that you live in.
 
Hello,

First things first.Time to wakeup dude 95% sure you are not important to her your tokens (your money) are.This may sound harsh but it's the bare and naked truth.Some models can make it look as they are genuinly interested untill the moment you stop tipping then they say who the fuck are you ?.

Having said that and since there's about 5% chance if she is not permitted to give out personal information then give her your email.Create a new gmail/hotmail/yahoo or whatever using fake information so she doesn't have a chance to get any personal information just yet.From my experience models get upset quite easly if you use the spy on private shows feature.I don't know exactely why though.Why don't you ask her why she reacted that way when you spyed on her based on her answer you can find out if she likes you and then decide for yourself what you want todo with it.
 
Yeah, I'd love to visit Romania, and a lot of countries in Europe. I guess I just don't interpret his description of her reactions as necessarily romantic interest. Maybe she felt really awkward knowing that someone she'd chatted with quite a bit saw her naked and performing for another guy.

The friend I mentioned a few posts up would feel awkward if I spied on her, and I'd feel too embarassed to do so. Not because we're in love with each other, more likely because we've crossed the business boundary and strayed into the personal a bit and most camgirls (I think) would be embarassed and self-conscious to be seen masturbating by a non-sexual friend.

While I agree her reaction seems to indicate some level of intimacy - how many girls here if you were masturbating or having sex with some guy and your totally platonic male friend popped his head round the corner to watch, would just continue?

**Actually, to succinctly answer your original question I'd talk to her about this and explain you have some feelings for her then she'll either shoot you down and you can learn from it, or your dream might come true. I dunno why the fuck you're asking a bunch of people who weren't there and don't know her.

Talk to her. I dunno why it's so hard for people to just lay their cards on the table. Guess what - nothing we say is going to change anything, or give you some magic answer the only person who knows the other side of this story is her.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Yeah, I'd love to visit Romania, and a lot of countries in Europe. I guess I just don't interpret his description of her reactions as necessarily romantic interest. Maybe she felt really awkward knowing that someone she'd chatted with quite a bit saw her naked and performing for another guy.

The friend I mentioned a few posts up would feel awkward if I spied on her, and I'd feel too embarassed to do so. Not because we're in love with each other, more likely because we've crossed the business boundary and strayed into the personal a bit and most camgirls (I think) would be embarassed and self-conscious to be seen masturbating by a non-sexual friend.

While I agree her reaction seems to indicate some level of intimacy - how many girls here if you were masturbating or having sex with some guy and your totally platonic male friend popped his head round the corner to watch, would just continue?

I don't get it.I mean if you work on a adult site you should be used to the fact allot of strangers will see you naked.It might be because the chat creates a kind of limited personal (virtual contact) that she felt uncomfortable that he had seen her naked.Though it should not be such a drama unless she has something she isn't telling.
 
Mfcwatchdog said:
Jupiter551 said:
Yeah, I'd love to visit Romania, and a lot of countries in Europe. I guess I just don't interpret his description of her reactions as necessarily romantic interest. Maybe she felt really awkward knowing that someone she'd chatted with quite a bit saw her naked and performing for another guy.

The friend I mentioned a few posts up would feel awkward if I spied on her, and I'd feel too embarassed to do so. Not because we're in love with each other, more likely because we've crossed the business boundary and strayed into the personal a bit and most camgirls (I think) would be embarassed and self-conscious to be seen masturbating by a non-sexual friend.

While I agree her reaction seems to indicate some level of intimacy - how many girls here if you were masturbating or having sex with some guy and your totally platonic male friend popped his head round the corner to watch, would just continue?

I don't get it.I mean if you work on a adult site you should be used to the fact allot of strangers will see you naked.It might be because the chat creates a kind of limited personal (virtual contact) that she felt uncomfortable that he had seen her naked.Though it should not be such a drama unless she has something she isn't telling.
I dunno the girl he's talking about so I can't comment, but the chick I mentioned is non nude in public, doesnt do groups and has only done true privates for a long time now. She doesn't use toys, I don't even know if she masturbates. A lot of guys take her private just to talk, or to dance. She also won't go private with someone she hasn't gotten to know for a little while, and from what other regs have said she won't get naked for the first few privates at all. It's just how she is.
 
I have not been on MFC as much recently and I know some updates etc are going on but the last time that I was on was about a week ago and I was using the model software not the broadcaster but if you were spying on her pvt how on earth did she know you were there? As far as I know, unless something has changed, we can not actively see who is spying on our pvts while we are in pvt but only when we go look at our token sessions can we actually see the name of the users who were spying.
 
ElaySmith said:
I have not been on MFC as much recently and I know some updates etc are going on but the last time that I was on was about a week ago and I was using the model software not the broadcaster but if you were spying on her pvt how on earth did she know you were there? As far as I know, unless something has changed, we can not actively see who is spying on our pvts while we are in pvt but only when we go look at our token sessions can we actually see the name of the users who were spying.

Exactly! I have no idea who is spying while in private, all I know is that tokens are building in my spy count. He said "different cam site" I'm wondering if he's referring to a site othet than MFC. I don't know if any others have the spy feature. I'm not going to comment on your feeling cuz well, I dunno but if it was MFC it sounds to me like the guy taking her private did something awful that creeped her out, she then used that to suck you in further by telling you it was because she respects you. :twocents-02cents:
 
RedHerby said:
great job, at least there was one cam model who did not think that all men are perverts, and you killed that ...
Aren't all humans perverts to some degree? Also, why would we not assume you are a pervert if you are a member on an adult webcam site? Ain't nothin' wrong with being a healthy human pervert.
 
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JoleneJolene said:
RedHerby said:
great job, at least there was one cam model who did not think that all men are perverts, and you killed that ...
Aren't all humans perverts to some degree? Also, why would we not assume you are a pervert if you are a member on an adult webcam site? Ain't nothin' wrong with being a healthy human pervert.
haha, yeah, my posting really did need a smiley
 
Man, what is it with these Romanian chicks? People be fallin' in love wit' 'em all over the place, homes. You know what would be great? (Well, great for neutrals and outsiders looking in anyway) If this chick and that other chick that that other guy was in love with (chew? I can't be arsed to look. It was something like that) were the SAME chick! That would be some glorious soap opera shit right there.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
...homes...

Holmes

Gangster slang. What you would call a good friend, a stranger, or even mockery against an adversary.
Was`sup, holmes.
You got a problem with it, holmes?

Lol, not homes. :h: Bob.
 
CaveDog said:
Sooo. I clicked on one chat room (a different site and model who will remain unnamed)

Jessi said:
I can't see the names of people spying during a private until after its over and I check my token records.
Something smells of fish.
 
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mynameisbob84 said:
Man, what is it with these Romanian chicks? People be fallin' in love wit' 'em all over the place, homes. You know what would be great? (Well, great for neutrals and outsiders looking in anyway) If this chick and that other chick that that other guy was in love with (chew? I can't be arsed to look. It was something like that) were the SAME chick! That would be some glorious soap opera shit right there.
That would be amazing lol!

I'm not gonna speculate on her motives for covering up etc, only she knows that, but I think the dude is reading way too much into this stuff
 
AmberCutie said:
CaveDog said:
Sooo. I clicked on one chat room (a different site and model who will remain unnamed)

Jessi said:
I can't see the names of people spying during a private until after its over and I check my token records.
Something smells of fish.

LJ, for example, is a site where other people can enter your private and silently watch the model do her thing. The models can see who enters and leaves.
 
Bocefish said:
mynameisbob84 said:
Urban Dictionary has my back, homes :snooty:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homes

Guess they both work, but I always thought it was Holmes too.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=holmes
1. Holmes
Gangster slang. What you would call a good friend, a stranger, or even mockery against an adversary.
Was`sup, holmes.
You got a problem with it, holmes?

I think it also depends on the region or even part of town. I grew up in San Antonio, which is majority Hispanic and "Holmes" was more prevalent. (Except most of the Hispanics I knew preferred "ese" or "cuz", lol) When I lived in Houston, "Homes" was heard more.
 
Shaun__ said:
If I was you I would end up being really good friends with the model. Then we would have a huge public fight over something stupid. Then she would accuse me of trying to control her with money, and I would deny it. Then I would say something here to get other opinions, and everybody would yell at me and say not this shit again. I hope I helped you a little.

That is too funny.

Saw the exact same thing happen in a room last week, word for word as you described short of the drama coming over to this forum.
 
Well maybe I'm not being clear. Maybe you had to be there.

The whole "relationship" was in a romantic context. Starting from a little fun flirting and evolving into more serious conversations about our feelings for each other and whether it was even possible for us to make it work.

She didn't react that way to game me or because she felt like I was a friend poking my head into the bedroom. Of that I'm sure. I'm not "reading way too much into it". That's not the question. It is what it is. I had as much trouble as anyone believing she was being genuine and not gaming me. I was searching for red flags with a spotlight. When I imagined I'd found one I decided it validated everything I was afraid of. The thing is I overreacted and did the wrong thing.

Her reaction was definitely genuine. It happened mere seconds after I logged in and I was definitely the cause. I spoke to her immidiately afterwards and there's just no way she was faking her emotions. She was genuinely bent out of shape. She had no time to scheme some coincidence into a scam. That's the problem. She was definitely embarressed because even though we both know what she does for a living she didn't want me seeing her in that light. To her it was me treating her like any customer would when she thought we had something more intimate going on. I breached her trust and it was a mistake. I did it because I didn't believe it could be true. Her reaction suddenly clued me in that it was. She said her problem with it was that it should have been intimate between us. I was treating her like she wasn't anything special to me and it hurt her. I'm not looking for analysis on that. I was there, I know it and it's the fact that I know it that bugs me.

My feeling is that the poster saying that I blew it is right. I knew it in that moment. The proverbial pooch had been screwed and it was all my fault.

She said she forgave me for it but really, how could she? It's got to change the way she sees me. Even though we got along fine afterward I just don't know whether all considered I should just drop it or keep talking to her in the hope that I can eventually heal things.
 
You should be telling her this, not us. Be honest with her and see what she says. You sound like a reasonably intelligent person that can distinguish between what she really says and what you want to hear.
 
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