What is the right "balance"...

[GemmaMarie]

between being personable with those in your room and needing to be/asking for tips?

Usually I do fairly well in my room but all I ever do is dance around, I was never really big at getting regulars. Well now I am trying to establish myself more on this site and get and maintain some regulars but I can't seem to find the balance between I'll sit and talk with you and 'sorry boys, I need to make money too' *insert massive sigh*. I HATE being the bitchy one whose like "Come on guys tip me!" but that's pretty much what my room came down to last night. I had some REALLY good conversations and the whole night I had about 80 people in my room at the minimum (not bad for being the newbie I am), but it was my worst night ever. For a majority of the night I was topless, but even when I pulled out the inevitable "sorry guys, you have to tip or I'm putting my top back on" still nothing. I danced, etc etc NOTHING. but I was having really good conversations so I stayed on, hoping that it would help me build up some regulars who would come back and HOPEFULLY become tippers, even though they weren't last night.

I'm sorry for all the noob questions, lol. I just really want to be good at it, and it's hard to stay encouraged when what you think should have been a good night is the worst night in your MFC history.

 

[Keithy]

Did you check out this? It might help answer your question yourself.
It's a tricky spot since everyone is a little different, so seeing what can be done and what is done might help you figure something out.

http://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=90477#p90477

 

[Sevrin]

I'm not clear. Is this about one dry session?

 

[GemmaMarie]

I'm not clear. Is this about one dry session?

Well, last night inspired the post, but this month has been one epic, epic dry blob for me, which does make me concerned. Clearly I understand these things happen, but I guess to clarify- I'm less concerned about the dryness, and more concerned about finding the right balance between being sociable and being sexy (although I hear the two do exist together :-D )

I think keithy directed me in the right direction and helped to clarify a bit. Its hard to put what I meant into words and that's why things were not clear.

 

[Jessi J]

You're gonna have times like that, even with my handful of regulars we end up sitting there staring at each other sometimes. I get frustrated! They stop talking, they stop tipping. Usually it's best to remind them that even though you are having fun, you can't stick around if no one really wants to tip.

One of the people that had been viewing me said that he "shouldn't have to tip" because he doesn't "masturbate during the I shows".

I explained to him that while I love to hang out and talk to everyone, time is money on this website and time I spend talking to someone that will never tip is wasted when I could actually pay my tippers some attention. Ultimately ended up banning him because he was argumentative with me and my tippers and never really contributed anything to my room.

Anyway, back to topic. It's always good to just say something to the effect of: "Hey guys! I am having fun hanging out, but don't forget we have a topic/goal still going, so please help out!" That's a lot better than, "Omfg guys, seriously I am gonna leave if you don't tip" or "Can you please tip me or I am just going to have to leave". :twocents-02cents:

 

[Sp0_0ky]

between being personable with those in your room and needing to be/asking for tips?

Usually I do fairly well in my room but all I ever do is dance around, I was never really big at getting regulars. Well now I am trying to establish myself more on this site and get and maintain some regulars but I can't seem to find the balance between I'll sit and talk with you and 'sorry boys, I need to make money too' *insert massive sigh*. I HATE being the bitchy one whose like "Come on guys tip me!" but that's pretty much what my room came down to last night. I had some REALLY good conversations and the whole night I had about 80 people in my room at the minimum (not bad for being the newbie I am), but it was my worst night ever. For a majority of the night I was topless, but even when I pulled out the inevitable "sorry guys, you have to tip or I'm putting my top back on" still nothing. I danced, etc etc NOTHING. but I was having really good conversations so I stayed on, hoping that it would help me build up some regulars who would come back and HOPEFULLY become tippers, even though they weren't last night.

I'm sorry for all the noob questions, lol. I just really want to be good at it, and it's hard to stay encouraged when what you think should have been a good night is the worst night in your MFC history.

You'll always have people that think you're a beggar if you even hint that you want a tip. The best way is to accumulate enuff regulars where they'll be asking for tips on your behalf

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

between being personable with those in your room and needing to be/asking for tips?

Usually I do fairly well in my room but all I ever do is dance around, I was never really big at getting regulars. Well now I am trying to establish myself more on this site and get and maintain some regulars but I can't seem to find the balance between I'll sit and talk with you and 'sorry boys, I need to make money too' *insert massive sigh*. I HATE being the bitchy one whose like "Come on guys tip me!" but that's pretty much what my room came down to last night. I had some REALLY good conversations and the whole night I had about 80 people in my room at the minimum (not bad for being the newbie I am), but it was my worst night ever. For a majority of the night I was topless, but even when I pulled out the inevitable "sorry guys, you have to tip or I'm putting my top back on" still nothing. I danced, etc etc NOTHING. but I was having really good conversations so I stayed on, hoping that it would help me build up some regulars who would come back and HOPEFULLY become tippers, even though they weren't last night.

I'm sorry for all the noob questions, lol. I just really want to be good at it, and it's hard to stay encouraged when what you think should have been a good night is the worst night in your MFC history.

You'll always have people that think you're a beggar if you even hint that you want a tip. The best way is to accumulate enuff regulars where they'll be asking for tips on your behalf

I have to disagree with that advice. From what many members have said on here, they don't enjoy other members telling them to tip, and it actually makes them not want to just cause they said to.

 

[Sevrin]

You'll always have people that think you're a beggar if you even hint that you want a tip. The best way is to accumulate enuff regulars where they'll be asking for tips on your behalf

I have to disagree with that advice. From what many members have said on here, they don't enjoy other members telling them to tip, and it actually makes them not want to just cause they said to.

Yeah, regulars pimping you doesn't get tips going. Regulars tipping does.

Have faith in yourself. Entertain your room. Fun rooms will attract others. Some of those others will stick with you. And some of those will make it worth your while.

 

[Sp0_0ky]

You'll always have people that think you're a beggar if you even hint that you want a tip. The best way is to accumulate enuff regulars where they'll be asking for tips on your behalf

I have to disagree with that advice. From what many members have said on here, they don't enjoy other members telling them to tip, and it actually makes them not want to just cause they said to.

Yeah, regulars pimping you doesn't get tips going. Regulars tipping does.

Have faith in yourself. Entertain your room. Fun rooms will attract others. Some of those others will stick with you. And some of those will make it worth your while.

I kind of like it when regulars egg each other on in a fun way.

 

[Felicity]

Usually in really awesome circumstances members "egging" each other on causes tip wars if enough testosterone is being thrown around to cause rash decisions! Bahaha! I've only ever had this happen 2 times in 9 months.

I honestly had a rough bit where I was a total bitch & no one would tip! Lol, definitely not the way to go! Just have fun and relax, what I forgot is this is a "customer service" job. So what happens when a customer is being a dick? Just keep smiling, trying to entertain for a bit. Gently remind about tips. If its still dead slow just politely excuse yourself and go work on a different site or whatever. They should not expect you to stay if they aren't paying you.

I think a good balance is just staying positive and polite! Sometimes I can still be a bitch to beggars, but the whole mass of people should always be addressed politely so that they don't get angry camgirl as their last memory.

 

[Sp0_0ky]

Usually in really awesome circumstances members "egging" each other on causes tip wars if enough testosterone is being thrown around to cause rash decisions! Bahaha! I've only ever had this happen 2 times in 9 months.

I honestly had a rough bit where I was a total bitch & no one would tip! Lol, definitely not the way to go! Just have fun and relax, what I forgot is this is a "customer service" job. So what happens when a customer is being a dick? Just keep smiling, trying to entertain for a bit. Gently remind about tips. If its still dead slow just politely excuse yourself and go work on a different site or whatever. They should not expect you to stay if they aren't paying you.

I think a good balance is just staying positive and polite! Sometimes I can still be a bitch to beggars, but the whole mass of people should always be addressed politely so that they don't get angry camgirl as their last memory.

A good mood is contagious.

 

[Bohemian_Lady]

In my three or four sessions I have had people in my room begging and the first time (my second time in chat) I didn't have to say anything becasue one of the prems who was in my chat the first day and came back for more (yay) actually said "hey, let her paint or tip the lady." @_@ Is this behavior I should encourage, I'm not sure because he didn't say tip or GTFO and he wasn't really rude. I guess I'm just not sure if I should let my regs defend me.

The second time it happened (third time in chat) this basic claimed to be a big tipper and that if I flashed him he would log onto his prem account and tip me, it was some crazy number like 500 tokens. I told him that if he wanted a flash then he could wait for someone else to tip me or he could log on to his prem and come back, my room rule state very politely tip = payoff not the other way around. Thats not to say I wont just whip my shirt off in free chat when I feel like it (which is exactly what ended up happening later on) This basic insisted and kept upping his price, I told him in no uncertain terms that this was the Internet and if I flashed him he could easily leave me hanging with no repercusions, where as if he tipped me and I blew him off it would be bad for my reputation. The prems and other basics backed me up and after that we ignored him. Finely he said that I was stupid for not accepting and left the room before I could ban him.

20 minutes later I get a PM and its from some prem account, it said something about not being a liar and being a rich old dude who would tip big. He then demanded that I Skype or yahoo him @_@ I politely told him that my profile says no Skype and I don't have a yahoo, I also told him that if he wanted a model to bully he could go somewhere else. I then went to free chat and announced that the annoying basic was back with his prem account trying to bully me, I told the room that I wouldn't have skyped or pvted with him no matter how much he paid. Thus setting a slandered that I will not be bullied into something I don't want to do. I did the right thing right?

 

[Sp0_0ky]

In my three or four sessions I have had people in my room begging and the first time (my second time in chat) I didn't have to say anything becasue one of the prems who was in my chat the first day and came back for more (yay) actually said "hey, let her paint or tip the lady." @_@ Is this behavior I should encourage, I'm not sure because he didn't say tip or GTFO and he wasn't really rude. I guess I'm just not sure if I should let my regs defend me.

The second time it happened (third time in chat) this basic claimed to be a big tipper and that if I flashed him he would log onto his prem account and tip me, it was some crazy number like 500 tokens. I told him that if he wanted a flash then he could wait for someone else to tip me or he could log on to his prem and come back, my room rule state very politely tip = payoff not the other way around. Thats not to say I wont just whip my shirt off in free chat when I feel like it (which is exactly what ended up happening later on) This basic insisted and kept upping his price, I told him in no uncertain terms that this was the Internet and if I flashed him he could easily leave me hanging with no repercusions, where as if he tipped me and I blew him off it would be bad for my reputation. The prems and other basics backed me up and after that we ignored him. Finely he said that I was stupid for not accepting and left the room before I could ban him.

20 minutes later I get a PM and its from some prem account, it said something about not being a liar and being a rich old dude who would tip big. He then demanded that I Skype or yahoo him @_@ I politely told him that my profile says no Skype and I don't have a yahoo, I also told him that if he wanted a model to bully he could go somewhere else. I then went to free chat and announced that the annoying basic was back with his prem account trying to bully me, I told the room that I wouldn't have skyped or pvted with him no matter how much he paid. Thus setting a slandered that I will not be bullied into something I don't want to do. I did the right thing right?

I never understood the "Do what I ask and then I'll login and tip you" technique.

 

[LadyLuna]

Thus setting a standered that I will not be bullied into something I don't want to do. I did the right thing right?

Yes! If you push early on "this is how I want people to behave" then you will end up with the room you want. And it might take awhile to find people, but they will come, and then it will escalate, and your room will be full of the type of people you want to have around.

I guess I'm just not sure if I should let my regs defend me.

Everyone has a different take on this. If you let your regs defend you, you will draw the type of people who will try to defend you, as well as those who will be okay with others defending you. Just make sure to shoot down anyone who goes too far on the defense.

The second time it happened (third time in chat) this basic claimed to be a big tipper and that if I flashed him he would log onto his prem account and tip me

I've had guys like that. 2 were actually honest, turned out to be regulars in my room who were on their basic account and just happened to see me on. The rest of the 10 that passed by before I wised up were assholes who left.

 

[Bohemian_Lady]

Thanks for the feed back ladies, makes me more confident!

 

[GemmaMarie]

Agreed, thanks for the feedback guys and gals. I know my original post came off weird, I was pretty emotional, but you guys clearly understood and I now feel better, and more, equipped to deal with nights like that. I know there will be nights when people won't tip, I just always wonder how long is too long to stick around when the conversation is really flowing. I want to stick around and talk just to build up my base, but then again there's always that nagging bitch "camscore" in the back of my mind saying "Hi, I'm camscore, and the longer you sit online making nothing the lower I get"

I try my hardest to ALWAYS keep my room a positive force and I rarely mention tips, whether it's slow or not. The other night I pretty much had to, but I always feel like a bitch for mentioning it, no matter how politely I go about it. I think reminding the room your working towards a goal/show is a good idea and I'll try it next time.

 

[Keithy]

Agreed, thanks for the feedback guys and gals. I know my original post came off weird, I was pretty emotional, but you guys clearly understood and I now feel better, and more, equipped to deal with nights like that. I know there will be nights when people won't tip, I just always wonder how long is too long to stick around when the conversation is really flowing. I want to stick around and talk just to build up my base, but then again there's always that nagging bitch "camscore" in the back of my mind saying "Hi, I'm camscore, and the longer you sit online making nothing the lower I get"

I try my hardest to ALWAYS keep my room a positive force and I rarely mention tips, whether it's slow or not. The other night I pretty much had to, but I always feel like a bitch for mentioning it, no matter how politely I go about it. I think reminding the room your working towards a goal/show is a good idea and I'll try it next time.

Instead of mentioning tips, try the word "goal" and say things like "I might not reach my goal tonight" or "I'm on my way to hitting that goal" or whatever.