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re: Boce including the model name in the screencap:

Especially since the post wasn't completely inflammatory to the model, I appreciate that the name was included. I think the majority of the time it is more appropriate to include the name of the model in the post than to not. Either way you're posting their image, but at least give people some reference to how they can find the model if they want to.
 
LilyMarie said:
Bocefish said:
LilyMarie said:
So because she looks different with make-up than without, she has a 'fake' avatar...?

Not even close to the same person. Click on the images to enlarge. The eyes and mouth are different and so are the eyebrows.
Yeah, that's called make-up. :-D
I'm 100% sure it's the same person. You can do A LOT with make-up. Look at her nose, it's the same.
Her avatar is tiny of course but her brows look like they're thinner there than they are now. That's because she's going with the trend of fuller eyebrows. You can change your eyebrows' shape drastically if you want to. For all you know her avatar might be 2 or 3 years old, that's more than enough time to grow out your eyebrows even after years of dramatic plucking/tweezing.

It looks like the same person to me too.
You can do a shit ton with makeup. These are all the same girl, before is her natural face. All the others are done with ONLY makeup.
 

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Yeah... Uh... I think it's the same girl.

Obviously it's close enough to spark a debate, ha!

Ah :lol: at looking 14. Men always say they prefer no makeup until they actually see a girl with no makeup, then suddenly she's 14 and they are mortified!
 
I still really don't see the lines/wrinkles that Boce is talking about... The only lines on her face are the smile lines on her cheeks, and they happen to everyone, including children and babies and have zero to do with age and everything to do with expression, besides that her eyes are in shadow, the lighting isn't very good in the photo with makes her eyes and under her eyes look darker, there still aren't any lines there though, it's just the lighting. In her cam feed, like with many camgirls the lighting is designed to eliminate shadows on the face, so yes her face looks different. I look different on my cam feed to real life and other photos. My cam slightly distorts my face and has different lines, it's not very different, but it is different. Some photos of me really don't look like the same person who cams on myfreecams.

I'm just going to add that there'd be no reason for her to use someone else in her pictures as she's actually on camera, why would anyone use a relatives photos pretending to be them on a live cam site when they're live on cam? There's zero logic behind it. Is it that hard to believe that maybe instead of a girl deciding her sister looks hotter than her and putting a deliberately misleading picture up that actually her hair colour and sun exposure may be different now than un the photo, and with lighting she may look different? She probably just thinks she looks hot in that picture so used her best picture, not realising that someone would get really upset because she doesn't look exactly the same. Her chin is in fact the same shape, again, it's just the camera angle. All her features are the same shape, it's just the colourings, the lighting and the angle that's different.
 
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My last post on this... for now. ;)




Wider jaw, lower brows, different eye color, and smile lines that prevalent (as pointed out by the arrows) don't suddenly disappear regardless of the lighting or angles. If you think both images are the same person, please share whatever drugs you're on. :lol:
 

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Bocefish said:
My last post on this... for now. ;)




Wider jaw, lower brows, different eye color, and smile lines that prevalent (as pointed out by the arrows) don't suddenly disappear regardless of the lighting or angles. If you think both images are the same person, please share whatever drugs you're on. :lol:

That nose is SPOT ON and it's a fairly unique nose shape.
Her facial expression is different live than in the avatar, and yes smile lines are more prevalent when you are smiling (who woulda thunk?!), as in the avatar, than in the live picture where her mouth is agape and she's kind of pursing her lips forward. It also looks like her cam exposure is cranked up pretty high, which blows out a lot of facial features.
Colored contacts are a thing that exists.
The avatar also looks like it may have been taken in a more professional setting. It really does make all the difference.

We CAN make prevalent features appear or disappear with lighting and angles, just ask all the ladies with bad ingrown hairs, wrinkles, or cellulite. :thumbleft:
 
Professional photos, makeup, hair and maybe a little Photoshop?

I agree with the women, looks like the same person to me. All the major facial features look similar. I know what you are saying with the smile lines but I think that is all makeup and lighting. In the screenshots you posted the lighting is too flat and even to show them. Avatar not matching what the person looks like on the webcam, you could say that for close to half of them. :lol: It is your opinion. If that is the most annoying thing a model can do, I wont try to convince you otherwise. :handgestures-salute:
 
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Just Me said:
Professional photos, makeup, hair and maybe a little Photoshop?

I agree with the women, looks like the same person to me. All the major facial features look similar. I know what you are saying with the smile lines but I think that is all makeup and lighting. In the screenshots you posted the lighting is too flat and even to show them. Avatar not matching what the person looks like on the webcam, you could say that for close to half of them. :lol: It is your opinion. If that is the most annoying thing a model can do, I wont try to convince you otherwise. :handgestures-salute:

:lol: I was too lazy to find another topic it would better fit in. I totally agree in the grand scheme of things models do, this particular one is comparable to a fart in the wind.

Fake avatars do annoy members and models though.

I'll agree to disagree.

Next time I see her on, I will try to tactfully (not exactly my forte) ask her and point her to this thread.
 
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People's faces change when they smile.

Here are two photos of me. One is taken on my webcam with cam lighting. I'm smiling fairly broadly in this pic, but you can barely see my smile lines because of the lighting. In the other photo I'm outside and smiling considerably less yet because of the lighting you can see the lines vividly. These lines don't change with age, they're always there and everyone has them. I can make myself smile slightly and they show less, like the girl is on her cam, but they're still there if I smile genuinely. On cam it is much harder to tell though. Sorry the picture of me outside is quite small, I had to crop it. Then there's the pic of me blonde with make-up. I've got smile lines there, that photo was taken 6 years ago.
 

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Bocefish said:
the girl in the avatar is definitely not a natural blonde, not 100% sure about the actual model though.
Because it's not like they're the exact same person or anything. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
LilyMarie said:
Bocefish said:
the girl in the avatar is definitely not a natural blonde, not 100% sure about the actual model though.
Because it's not like they're the exact same person or anything. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Course they're not! One girl has a different colour hair, a tan, make up and is smiling! Her smile lines clearly mean she's almost 30! I mean yeah the facial features are all really similar but that just means she must have used her sisters picture instead of her own. Sneaky sneaky model.

I agree that using a photo that doesn't show your current look can be misleading, but she probably didn't realise that because she used a picture with make up and that expression and lighting it meant she had to always wear that make up and use that lighting. She probably thought it was a hot pic and put her best picture up, which is pretty much what almost every model does. Most models I come across who have professional photos don't look anything like how they do in the pics when they're live on cam. I'm not going to have a bitch fit about how DARE they hire a good photographer for the pics and not be that hot all the time though.
 
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Isabella_deL said:
People's faces change when they smile.

Here are two photos of me. One is taken on my webcam with cam lighting. I'm smiling fairly broadly in this pic, but you can barely see my smile lines because of the lighting. In the other photo I'm outside and smiling considerably less yet because of the lighting you can see the lines vividly. These lines don't change with age, they're always there and everyone has them. I can make myself smile slightly and they show less, like the girl is on her cam, but they're still there if I smile genuinely. On cam it is much harder to tell though. Sorry the picture of me outside is quite small, I had to crop it. Then there's the pic of me blonde with make-up. I've got smile lines there, that photo was taken 6 years ago.

I see what you're saying and it's somewhat convincing, but I'm still 98% certain the two images I posted are not the same person.
 
Bocefish said:
I see what you're saying and it's somewhat convincing, but I'm still 98% certain the two images I posted are not the same person.

I'm 98% convinced that you only think that because you're stubborn enough to not want to back down and have now blinded yourself from the truth. When you suspect someone is lying based on a very small not amazing quality photograph and zero motive for the person to lie except to be irritating, and then pretty much everyone else you show the pictures to, many who know a fair bit about make-up, facial proportions and different types of lighting/photos turns around and says "well it does look like the same person as they have the same unchangeable features, and the only features that are different are changeable, like expression, make up, hair and skin colour.", surely that's the moment where you think "Ok, maybe there's a fairly large chance I'm wrong and judged too quickly."

Another thing I've learned off doing art for so long is that if you tell most people, even skilled people to draw an image, they see what they think they see and draw what they think they see rather than what's actually there. You don't see the similarities because you're so focused on the differences that when you look at the similarities you're seeing differences and not truly seeing what's there. Maybe you're right, but the chances of you being right are just so slim. Like I said, there's no reason for her to put a photo of someone else up there when she's showing her actual face on cam.
 
Isabella_deL said:
Bocefish said:
I see what you're saying and it's somewhat convincing, but I'm still 98% certain the two images I posted are not the same person.

I'm 98% convinced that you only think that because you're stubborn enough to not want to back down and have now blinded yourself from the truth.

Believe whatever you want. I'll admit when I'm wrong 98% of the time, I just don't believe that is the case here.
 
Wow - what a debate! I think its the same girl, remember cam aspects can be slightly different and make up can transform a person. I've had friends do those glamour photo packages and I didn't recognize them at all from the results.
 
This subject actually got me wondering WHAT IF it IS a fake photo? What if it really isn't her? Like, how hilarious would that be considering it looks close enough to her that people are arguing about it... she could have just used a real pic and it wouldn't have made a difference! :lol:

If it IS a fake, what the fuck is the point then? LOLZ!
 
Am I the only the one who thinks she still looks really pretty sans make-up? I guess I don't see the problem here. If the avatar is her (I think it is for what it's worth), then yes, she looks different in the picture to how she looked on cam at the time this screengrab was taken. But she's still pretty, and it's not as if she's under any obligation to appear exactly as she does in her avatar. She's allowed to cam with no make-up on is she not? If she wants to change her hair, or start wearing glasses, she can do that too, right? She doesn't have to look exactly as she did when the image in her avatar was taken. And if it's not her in her avatar, you're under no obligation to tip her, no obligation to spend any time in her room, and no obligation to ever come back. I just wouldn't worry about it, ya know?
 
JoleneBrody said:
This subject actually got me wondering WHAT IF it IS a fake photo? What if it really isn't her? Like, how hilarious would that be considering it looks close enough to her that people are arguing about it... she could have just used a real pic and it wouldn't have made a difference! :lol:

If it IS a fake, what the fuck is the point then? LOLZ!

It got my attention and us debating.
 
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mynameisbob84 said:
She's allowed to cam with no make-up on is she not?

Seriously?

mynameisbob84 said:
If she wants to change her hair, or start wearing glasses, she can do that too, right?

No, that's not allowed. :roll:

mynameisbob84 said:
She doesn't have to look exactly as she did when the image in her avatar was taken. And if it's not her in her avatar, you're under no obligation to tip her, no obligation to spend any time in her room, and no obligation to ever come back. I just wouldn't worry about it, ya know?

This is where the saying "get a fucking clue" comes into play.

Since when did opinion threads suddenly require so much factual evidence?
 
Bocefish said:
Since when did opinion threads suddenly require so much factual evidence?

Well, so far, there hasn't been any "factual evidence". All we have is two images showing a (supposedly) female person which may or may not depict the same person, and a lot of speculation.

What's more, the "opinion" part refers to whether specific behaviours are annoying, e.g., some people are driven up the wall by knuckle-cracking, while it doesn't bother others. What's in question here, is whether this behaviour, i.e., using someone else's photo as one's avatar, in fact occurred in the case of Blondprincess.
 
Bocefish said:
mynameisbob84 said:
She's allowed to cam with no make-up on is she not?

Seriously?

mynameisbob84 said:
If she wants to change her hair, or start wearing glasses, she can do that too, right?

No, that's not allowed. :roll:

mynameisbob84 said:
She doesn't have to look exactly as she did when the image in her avatar was taken. And if it's not her in her avatar, you're under no obligation to tip her, no obligation to spend any time in her room, and no obligation to ever come back. I just wouldn't worry about it, ya know?

This is where the saying "get a fucking clue" comes into play.

Since when did opinion threads suddenly require so much factual evidence?

You didn't state an opinion. You flat-out accused a model of using a fake avatar.

If a model using an avatar that doesn't look like her annoys you to the point that you feel compelled to take a screengrab of her and post it to a message board, accompanied by an 'angry' smiley face... fine. If you're of the opinion that a model causing you to potentially waste two seconds of your time and two clicks of your mouse is one of the "most annoying things a model can do", that's fine too. Just don't expect people to not wonder why it's such a big deal to you. Especially when most people don't even think that the avatar in question is a different person to the model you posted.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
If a model using an avatar that doesn't look like her annoys you to the point that you feel compelled to take a screengrab of her and post it to a message board, accompanied by an 'angry' smiley face... fine.

Apparently not fine, or do you just like being a hypocritical suck-up?

mynameisbob84 said:
If you're of the opinion that a model causing you to potentially waste two seconds of your time and two clicks of your mouse is one of the "most annoying things a model can do", that's fine too.

Is it more acceptable than the fine acceptance of your previous bullshit statement?

mynameisbob84 said:
Just don't expect people to not wonder why it's such a big deal to you. Especially when most people don't even think that the avatar in question is a different person to the model you posted.

Awwww... thanks for the consolation that people may not agree with me.

In case you've failed to realize that I don't give a shit about emotional arguments regardless of sex on here... show me facts or stfu.
 
Bocefish said:
Apparently not fine, or do you just like being a hypocritical suck-up?

Well, I'm not averse to it. But I'm a little confused as to where the hypocrisy lay in my previous post or who exactly I'm sucking up to.

Is it more acceptable than the fine acceptance of your previous bullshit statement?

Whut?

So I'm not expecting people to wonder now?

Judging by this conversation, no?
 
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OOPS, too late to edit previous post, but I emotionally tried.

In case you've failed to realize that I don't really give a shit about emotional arguments regardless of sex on here... my opinions are usually based on and backed up by verifiable facts.
 
Bocefish said:
OOPS, too late to edit previous post, but I emotionally tried.

In case you've failed to realize that I don't really give a shit about emotional arguments regardless of sex on here... my opinions are usually based on and backed up by verifiable facts.
Geeze chill out Boce. I know me asking you to chill will probably make you angry but please know it's not my intention to be condescending... Nor anyone else who has replied IMO.
It has sparked a rather interesting debate as to whether or not what you see is actually what it is... No one kicked your dog.

This whole subject really is pretty funny though! can we try to at least keep things light hearted?
 
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