What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[PunkInDrublic]

the most annoying thing a model can do is to be stubborn , after she gets in top and famous , she won't talk with u if u don't tip her , i have seen at the most models .

lol so tip her? Probably busy with the people who are tipping her.

 

[LilyMarie]

^ Yeah, that.
I reply to people who are nice and respectful even if they don't tip (they're still better than guests/basics, and if they have interesting things to say of course I enjoy talking to them), but #1 priority will always be the people who are actually supporting me. I'm on MFC for a reason. :?

 

[KayleePond]

the most annoying thing a model can do is to be stubborn , after she gets in top and famous , she won't talk with u if u don't tip her , i have seen at the most models .

lol so tip her? Probably busy with the people who are tipping her.

This! And what Lily said!

Also consider that you're not the only "friend" who is vying for free attention! She probably has a lot of people who are trying to talk with her and since this is her job it is wise to talk to the tippers and respond to those who aren't contributing to her show as a lower priority. Also, I have no clue how this behavior could be deemed "stubborn".

I'm sure it can seem hurtful from your perspective. I often get frustrated with how many people tend to IM me at inconvenient moments all at once, and if I get annoyed I always remember that they probably just think that they're just "one person asking a simple question" but they don't realize that they're one of many and it quickly adds up! I know that this doesn't benefit you, but please try to see it from her perspective too.

 

[mutantdonut]

I'm not a fan of the remote control zoom in & out used by certain models, especially when the usage is excessive. If used sparingly (and i mean only a couple times per session), it's perfectly fine. But the constant usage of cam movement via remote absolutely kills the enjoyment for me.

 

[Bocefish]

I had to leave a new model's room because she was reading aloud every single comment people wrote in her chat box to include the bovine excrement guests and basics regularly spew. If you can't read text silently, being a cam girl is probably not for you.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[Misono]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

 

[AmberCutie]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

 

[KristinaReapsMe]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

Me too. Maybe he means when they don't come out right?

 

[Misono]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

Please read everything. Offering them isn't annoying. But sending a query beforehand just to make sure it's something the model is ok with, the model reading the mail and then not responding with a yes or a no is annoying.

Although saying that, I'll usually take no reply as being a no. It gives off the impression of "Pay me first, and if you don't like it tough". It's nice to check things and, although I appreciate people are busy, if you've read it it takes less than a minute to respond with a "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" or just an outright no.

Does that make sense?

 

[Bocefish]

So are we to understand the model did not respond to your MFC mail requesting a custom video? If it's been more than a couple days, then I'd take that as a no and move on. She may have several reasons for not responding so I wouldn't hold it against her. It's not exactly good business etiquette, but everyone is different.

 

[Misono]

So are we to understand the model did not respond to your MFC mail requesting a custom video? If it's been more than a couple days, then I'd take that as a no and move on. She may have several reasons for not responding so I wouldn't hold it against her. It's not exactly good business etiquette, but everyone is different.

That's pretty much the point, the etiquette. In my opinion, it's much more polite to just say a "No" then everything is dealt with. While ignoring can to an extent give the same message, it could be dealt with better. That's the annoying thing.

 

[JoleneBrody]

So are we to understand the model did not respond to your MFC mail requesting a custom video? If it's been more than a couple days, then I'd take that as a no and move on. She may have several reasons for not responding so I wouldn't hold it against her. It's not exactly good business etiquette, but everyone is different.

That's pretty much the point, the etiquette. In my opinion, it's much more polite to just say a "No" then everything is dealt with. While ignoring can to an extent give the same message, it could be dealt with better. That's the annoying thing.

Unless it hasn't been that long and she just isn't ready to respond yet because she's still brainstorming/pondering. At that point a "lemme think about it" would be nice but just a thought.

 

[AmberCutie]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

Please read everything. Offering them isn't annoying. But sending a query beforehand just to make sure it's something the model is ok with, the model reading the mail and then not responding with a yes or a no is annoying.

Although saying that, I'll usually take no reply as being a no. It gives off the impression of "Pay me first, and if you don't like it tough". It's nice to check things and, although I appreciate people are busy, if you've read it it takes less than a minute to respond with a "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" or just an outright no.

Does that make sense?

Ok I see now. So your opening line should have been "Not replying to messages about custom videos".

 

[Misono]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

Please read everything. Offering them isn't annoying. But sending a query beforehand just to make sure it's something the model is ok with, the model reading the mail and then not responding with a yes or a no is annoying.

Although saying that, I'll usually take no reply as being a no. It gives off the impression of "Pay me first, and if you don't like it tough". It's nice to check things and, although I appreciate people are busy, if you've read it it takes less than a minute to respond with a "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" or just an outright no.

Does that make sense?

Ok I see now. So your opening line should have been "Not replying to messages about custom videos".

I'd stick with the offering. By definition, if something is custom then there's a sort of outline of what is needed. Usually to agree on a custom of anything, you'd have the discussion beforehand. I'd say by calling it a custom video, you're implying that there's some negotiation as to content to be had beforehand.

Each to their own though.

 

[AmberCutie]

Offering custom videos.

It's all well and good offering them. But if you have an idea in mind, it's handy as well to check with the model beforehand, saves everyone getting annoyed afterwards that things weren't as they hoped. I think it's therefore reasonable to send a mail.

But if you then read that as a model and don't reply, even if it's a "Sorry, that's not for me" thing, it's bad form in my opinion.

Wait...

Offering custom videos is the most annoying thing a model can do? I'm confused.

Please read everything. Offering them isn't annoying. But sending a query beforehand just to make sure it's something the model is ok with, the model reading the mail and then not responding with a yes or a no is annoying.

Although saying that, I'll usually take no reply as being a no. It gives off the impression of "Pay me first, and if you don't like it tough". It's nice to check things and, although I appreciate people are busy, if you've read it it takes less than a minute to respond with a "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" or just an outright no.

Does that make sense?

Ok I see now. So your opening line should have been "Not replying to messages about custom videos".

I'd stick with the offering. By definition, if something is custom then there's a sort of outline of what is needed. Usually to agree on a custom of anything, you'd have the discussion beforehand. I'd say by calling it a custom video, you're implying that there's some negotiation as to content to be had beforehand.

Each to their own though.

So nobody should offer custom videos because that's the annoying part. You are annoyed that this is offered to begin with. That's just silly. Would you like to re-word that to be "If a girl requires a tip for a custom video before I tell her what I'd like in the video" because THAT might make sense. But a girl simply offering to make one is not annoying on its own.

Sorry if I am being nitpicky but you're contradicting yourself. I apologize if it's a language barrier issue, sometimes that makes making a clear point difficult.

 

[ILikeUonTop]

Not replying to MFC E-Mails.

Also, agreeing to a custom and paying for it and then, 4 and a half months later still not having it because she is "really behind" or things "come up" yet she has time to make 3 new videos to sell on her profile during that same time frame. And when you keep asking about it all you get is "I'm sorry. Thanks for being patient." :angry4:

 

[Misono]

Offering custom videos.


So nobody should offer custom videos because that's the annoying part. You are annoyed that this is offered to begin with. That's just silly. Would you like to re-word that to be "If a girl requires a tip for a custom video before I tell her what I'd like in the video" because THAT might make sense. But a girl simply offering to make one is not annoying on its own.

Sorry if I am being nitpicky but you're contradicting yourself. I apologize if it's a language barrier issue, sometimes that makes making a clear point difficult.

I think this is probably a part where British English and American English fall down. For us, by calling it "custom" you imply that there's the negotiation beforehand. You could think of it by means of a contract, in that you have the offer stage, the acceptance from the model, and then the completion where tokens are exchanged. In the UK at least, you'd expect this to all take place before any monies are exchanged.

It is that that I mean when I say about not offering custom videos. They shouldn't be offered if you're not willing to discuss beforehand, but it is my belief and interpretation that the word 'custom' implies the discussion part. Then ignoring a question just gives off a bad vibe, and seems unprofessional.

Mean, it's not as if I wanted them in pigtails giving a POV BJ or anything...

 

[LadyLuna]

Offering custom videos.


So nobody should offer custom videos because that's the annoying part. You are annoyed that this is offered to begin with. That's just silly. Would you like to re-word that to be "If a girl requires a tip for a custom video before I tell her what I'd like in the video" because THAT might make sense. But a girl simply offering to make one is not annoying on its own.

Sorry if I am being nitpicky but you're contradicting yourself. I apologize if it's a language barrier issue, sometimes that makes making a clear point difficult.

I think this is probably a part where British English and American English fall down. For us, by calling it "custom" you imply that there's the negotiation beforehand. You could think of it by means of a contract, in that you have the offer stage, the acceptance from the model, and then the completion where tokens are exchanged. In the UK at least, you'd expect this to all take place before any monies are exchanged.

It is that that I mean when I say about not offering custom videos. They shouldn't be offered if you're not willing to discuss beforehand, but it is my belief and interpretation that the word 'custom' implies the discussion part. Then ignoring a question just gives off a bad vibe, and seems unprofessional.

Mean, it's not as if I wanted them in pigtails giving a POV BJ or anything...

See, your problem isn't with the fact that they offer it, it's with the fact that they didn't answer, and you're assuming that no answer means that they want a tip before they'll discuss it.

What is actually happening is one of the following:
1. they are willing to do it but don't have time right now so are waiting until they do before letting you know
2. they are unsure if they are willing to do it or not
3. they need to find and/or purchase something to make the video work, and once they have they will message you.
4. they haven't been on MFC since you sent it and haven't seen your message yet
5. they have decided not to do it and never said anything about it
6. they needed to think about it and then forgot to give you an answer, or forgot that you even asked about it.

So the issue is not with them requiring a tip before the custom can be discussed, since you didn't say here that they ever actually told you that a tip was needed, and I've never heard of a model needing that. They just never got back to you.

Am I understanding you right? That your problem is because you think they want a tip to discuss it, and you think that because they never got back to you on it?

 

[Misono]

You're pretty much on the money there.

In honesty, they've not asked for a tip, but again the impression obtained is one that, unless you tip, they won't discuss. Request was mailed to them a few weeks back, and the MFC mail is marked as read. They're continuing advertising customs, so I'm not sure it's an issue of not having time either. For me, that's annoying as if one idea isn't good, I'm always up for negotiation to a middle, more comfortable, ground.

It's probably more an annoyance at the lack of communication either way. It seems an odd way to go about things, as I think straight away most models will know what they're comfortable with. If it's something a bit different, then a "Let me think about it" holding mail is usually a good way. Saves someone who is potentially going to spend a bit from making theirself come across as pushy.

 

[zippypinhead]

Today, I got banned from a model's room just for showing up. It was weird. I guess the ONLY other person in there (apparently a regular) didn't like the idea of someone else taking her attention away from him, and got her to ban me. Seriously, WTF.

 

[RainyDayGuy]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

 

[JoleneBrody]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

This reminds me of something along the same lines but a little different.

Members or, more specifically anonymous grey faces in your tumblr ask box insinuating the same thing in an effort to insult the model without realizing it's actually more insulting to the members.
Exp. "How does it feel knowing you have to trick men into thinking they're in love with you to make a living?"
#1 This person has obviously never watched me... unless lip synching while doing a T-rex walk is the new marriage proposal and I missed the memo.
#2 In an effort to try to make me feel guilty about being a cam girl the person just insinuated that tipping members on MFC are all feeble minded little boys with no control over their emotions... and that actually makes me angry.

sorry off topic... just reminded me of it.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

I see this so often that it doesn't even register anymore. Few things these models all seem to have in common. Don't seem to enjoy camming, rarely entertaining, constant whining/begging about something.As long as I can still pay them to entertain me I honestly don't care what they think. I'm sure sometimes it might just be the model having a bad day(cause the less thans aren't giving her money) but it does seem a lot of models feel this way. Not fun rooms to chill in but still worth getting pvt shows from.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

I see this so often that it doesn't even register anymore. Few things these models all seem to have in common. Don't seem to enjoy camming, rarely entertaining, constant whining/begging about something.As long as I can still pay them to entertain me I honestly don't care what they think. I'm sure sometimes it might just be the model having a bad day(cause the less thans aren't giving her money) but it does seem a lot of models feel this way. Not fun rooms to chill in but still worth getting pvt shows from.

I'm trying to work out what in these situations the model's actually say. Maybe I'm just being dense, but I can't work out if it's like a model saying something that might come across that a member isn't important/would never be someone they're attracted to in real life, or if the model is outright saying "you're all clearly losers".

I'm trying to work out if I ever do this. I hope I don't, but it's hard to say. Statistically if I picked out a random member in my room chances are I wouldn't be remotely attracted to him, find him at all interesting or would be someone I'd ever hang out with in real life. This doesn't mean that said person wouldn't be interesting to others or would be "less than" any person I would find interesting, it's just a matter of personality and tastes. It also doesn't mean that there aren't members in my room that if I met/knew in real life I wouldn't find attractive and/or interesting.

Sometimes I can be very brash with members, if they say something stupid or saying something that probably sounds really sexy in their heads but they clearly haven't realised that telling a total stranger to imagine you licking them is creepy as hell to the stranger, they may be able to see that I'm a young attractive female, but in my head they're a total unknown, and let's face it, they may be the most beautiful man in the world, but in my head members are all start average looking, they then become better looking to me if they show a shining personality, so a comment like that makes me think of them as a really unattractive creep.

I just don't know if I ever have said anything to imply members are "less than". I can be brutally honest, but it's usually meant in a light hearted way rather than trying to insult someone, at least when it's in the public room.

Sometimes it's difficult when you're in a public room, you say things and some people take them the wrong way. Like I'm a massive piss taker, maybe it's because I'm english, but it's just the way of everyone around me, you just don't have conversations without ripping it out of others and yourself just a little bit. No one means it to be nasty, it's funny. Some things I've noticed is that most british members understand this and get the dry, probably too sarcastic sense of humour I have, but sometimes I'll get guys (usually who aren't english) who take it really seriously and just don't understand, I feel really bad as god, if you took what I say seriously I'd sound like a complete bitch, and a few people probably think I am, but I guess it's a culture difference. It's hard because most of my regulars understand my sense of humour and join in on the banter, but with so many others viewing, you just never know how people are going to take it. Sometimes people don't get you have inside jokes with a few regulars that if you'd been going to my room for a while you'd understand. Once I had a member say to me in pm something about what a regular was saying in the public chat, they had me on mute and couldn't hear me bantering and thought the guy was insulting me/being a douche.

I'm also only 23 and am not a trained public speaker, like most mfc models. I probably insult people daily on Acf and Mfc, I say many things that sometimes I portray as being very thought out, but really I'm just thinking on the spot. I don't really know the situations that are being talked about, but I hope that members will have some forgiveness for models and not judge them too harshly, the average member most models communicate with (besides her close regulars) is a complete jackass, it's very easy to imagine the rest of members are probably the same or to say things that might insult some depending on your mood. It's very hard to please everyone, some people think some things are hilarious while others will be staring in shock.

Anyway, there's a long rant that strayed completely off topic...

 

[LilyEvans]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

I see this so often that it doesn't even register anymore. Few things these models all seem to have in common. Don't seem to enjoy camming, rarely entertaining, constant whining/begging about something.As long as I can still pay them to entertain me I honestly don't care what they think. I'm sure sometimes it might just be the model having a bad day(cause the less thans aren't giving her money) but it does seem a lot of models feel this way. Not fun rooms to chill in but still worth getting pvt shows from.

I'm trying to work out what in these situations the model's actually say. Maybe I'm just being dense, but I can't work out if it's like a model saying something that might come across that a member isn't important/would never be someone they're attracted to in real life, or if the model is outright saying "you're all clearly losers".

I've seen girls do it accidentally-- say someone comes in trolling and insulting her, and she says something like, "Yeah well you're the loser who has to pay girls for attention, so HA! You're so pathetic you have to pay to see a girl get naked," etc etc. While she may not realize it or mean for it to be, it is an attack on...basically everyone who has ever purchased currency on a camsite.

 

[SexySteph]

when models explicitly or implicitly state that MFC members are "less than". however it might be said, the general sentiment being that merely by being members on MFC, that automatically places us into a category of people that are undesireable IRL.

i've noticed this sentiment oozing out of several models lately. it's mildly annoying coming from random models and fairly easy to ignore. it's rather insulting coming from people i interact with on a regular basis.

I see this so often that it doesn't even register anymore. Few things these models all seem to have in common. Don't seem to enjoy camming, rarely entertaining, constant whining/begging about something.As long as I can still pay them to entertain me I honestly don't care what they think. I'm sure sometimes it might just be the model having a bad day(cause the less thans aren't giving her money) but it does seem a lot of models feel this way. Not fun rooms to chill in but still worth getting pvt shows from.

I'm trying to work out what in these situations the model's actually say. Maybe I'm just being dense, but I can't work out if it's like a model saying something that might come across that a member isn't important/would never be someone they're attracted to in real life, or if the model is outright saying "you're all clearly losers".

I've seen girls do it accidentally-- say someone comes in trolling and insulting her, and she says something like, "Yeah well you're the loser who has to pay girls for attention, so HA! You're so pathetic you have to pay to see a girl get naked," etc etc. While she may not realize it or mean for it to be, it is an attack on...basically everyone who has ever purchased currency on a camsite.

I actually had a guy (supposedly cams on CB) do this today. He was complaining that models mute basics on MFC and I politely explained that he could become premium or, if he wants to chat for free he could start a conversation with someone at the library. And his response was "lol, the reason we're on cam sites, be it stickam, justin.tv, cam4, chaturbate, or MFC is because we lack the social skills to talk with these types of people in the "real world"."

This maybe true for him but I've always gotten the vibe that the majority of members I talk to are pretty normal cool people. Not creepy basement shut-ins who "lack social skills".

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I actually had a guy (supposedly cams on CB) do this today. He was complaining that models mute basics on MFC and I politely explained that he could become premium or, if he wants to chat for free he could start a conversation with someone at the library. And his response was "lol, the reason we're on cam sites, be it stickam, justin.tv, cam4, chaturbate, or MFC is because we lack the social skills to talk with these types of people in the "real world"."

This maybe true for him but I've always gotten the vibe that the majority of members I talk to are pretty normal cool people. Not creepy basement shut-ins who "lack social skills".

Sadly this is me. In a computer chat environment I can be the first to speak up and I can chat all day about any subject. Find me at a party and I'm the guy in corner who quietly sneaks out early to go home never having said anything.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

the average member most models communicate with (besides her close regulars) is a complete jackass, it's very easy to imagine the rest of members are probably the same or to say things that might insult some depending on your mood.

Yeah I get this which is why I try not to let it annoy me when some models have meltdowns.

I've seen girls do it accidentally-- say someone comes in trolling and insulting her, and she says something like, "Yeah well you're the loser who has to pay girls for attention, so HA! You're so pathetic you have to pay to see a girl get naked," etc etc. While she may not realize it or mean for it to be, it is an attack on...basically everyone who has ever purchased currency on a camsite.

Seems to be the most common way it happens.

I actually had a guy (supposedly cams on CB) do this today. He was complaining that models mute basics on MFC and I politely explained that he could become premium or, if he wants to chat for free he could start a conversation with someone at the library. And his response was "lol, the reason we're on cam sites, be it stickam, justin.tv, cam4, chaturbate, or MFC is because we lack the social skills to talk with these types of people in the "real world"."

This maybe true for him but I've always gotten the vibe that the majority of members I talk to are pretty normal cool people. Not creepy basement shut-ins who "lack social skills".

Comments like that would annoy me. I'm at mfc/any camsite because its fun. Thousands of women from around the world getting naked and doing other stuff? Sounds awesome. If I wanted to just socialize I'd go out to a bar. Love when models bring up basement dwelling. Automatic sign of how bitter and unhappy she is with her own life. Another good one is the "only losers go to mfc". Really bitch? We come here anonymously while you work for mfc. So hilarious when models don't realize how dumb/hypocritical this line of thought is. These models don't seem to do very well or last that long.

 

[RainyDayGuy]

I'm trying to work out what in these situations the model's actually say. Maybe I'm just being dense, but I can't work out if it's like a model saying something that might come across that a member isn't important/would never be someone they're attracted to in real life, or if the model is outright saying "you're all clearly losers".

I can only speak for myself, but it has to do with making assumptions about me based on a very limited amount of information about who I am. It seems that the one of bit of info they do have, that I'm a MFC member, is all they need to know that I'm undesirable. One of the more common ways this comes across is the "I would never date or be attracted to someone from MFC in real life". It isn't just about romantic relationships though. It's like any kind of real life interaction with someone from MFC would be undesirable. I could do a whole rant about making judgments about people when you don't know them, but I'll spare the internet any more of that.

 

[RedHerby]

This maybe true for him but I've always gotten the vibe that the majority of members I talk to are pretty normal cool people. Not creepy basement shut-ins who "lack social skills".

Sadly this is me. In a computer chat environment I can be the first to speak up and I can chat all day about any subject. Find me at a party and I'm the guy in corner who quietly sneaks out early to go home never having said anything.

you are invited to parties? The average mfc member does not get party invites ...