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Well, everything about this is new to me, weird and have me like a dog trying to bite his tail, chasing something that is there but can't quite get it and I find myself running in circles. Its not a situation that you can speak about without looking insane so here I am, looking for any advice I can get, help or people just telling me I am in fact an idiot or crazy. Here is the story.

There are a million banners around the internet with cam sites so moved by curiosity ended up in registering in one trying to see what all the fuzz is about. Hardly did I know the "mess" I was going to get myself into. I didn't get caught up much about the cams thing but I starting speaking with a girl quite often. I must say that I like her a lot, at least as much as you can like someone who you don't actually have met in person. It is obviously not love but I never thought I could like someone I met this way that much and well she liked me too. I must clarify that she for sure wasn't/isn't playing me for money because other than a present for her birthday there has been none involved.

The time we've "known" each other is almost all the time she has been working as camgirl. After like two months we spoke about meeting and both felt pretty excited about it. When the date was closing in and everything started to feel real, she freaked out and told me we should wait to meet. Certainly it is something a bit crazy to meet someone you just know through the internet and she felt weird meeting someone she met at a camsite even though I'm just a normal guy.

Now almost a month later of the date in what we were going to met everything is starting to feel different. I notice her more distant instead of more close. It could also be all in my head ( :lol: ) and she could just be more busy or have stuff I don't know about going on. The thing is that honestly I feel frustrated. In a normal situation I would have asked her out and either she tells me to fuck off or yes. After that well, we either don't see each other again/become friends/something else happens and end of the story. Simple and no headaches. I know that if we just had met irl, she would go out with me (I just asked and she told me :mrgreen: ) but right now it sucks.

Am I being stupidor am I just acting like an impatient kid that wants things now and shoult be more patient? I just feel like a fool for "chasing" a girl through the internet like 4-5 months but obviously don't want to just give up and don't ever know what could have been and live with a million "what ifs".

SOS
 
While this is "ask a model," let me give it to you from my perspective.

I've made it no secret that I would love to meet Amber and Jawbs. And it's for no other reason than they are people I would totally hang out with in real life. I've even joked that after Amber gets done with kicking my ass for all the stupid things I've done in the time we've known each other, I'd say "OK, now that that's out of the way, let's go have lunch." But the chances of that happening are somewhere between a snowball's chance in Hell and none. And I'm OK with that.

Personally, I wouldn't call you stupid or a fool. At worse, you're just being a bit naive. You have to realize that people on the Internet sometimes act differently than they do in real life. She might be thinking "what if the real life him isn't how he is with me online?" And it's a legitimate worry.

My advice would be not to bring it up anymore. If she decides she wants to meet you, then discuss it. But otherwise, just forget about it. You both will probably be better off in the long run.
 
If she's acting this way and putting off meeting you, 99% chance she doesn't want to anymore and just doesn't know how to tell you without hurting your feelings. That's the risk you take when you get "close"(*) to someone via the Internet. Plans can sound fun and exciting when discussed over a private message or email, but when reality smacks you in the face, sometimes it turns out you never really wanted to go through with any of it.

(*)There is never a 100% sure way to know you're actually getting the interaction you think you are via the Internet or the phone. No matter how sure you think you are, you could be getting fooled. Just because she wasn't leeching money out of you with it doesn't mean she wasn't getting something else fulfilling out of it and had no intention of meeting you... The truth hurts, but there it is.
 
Yeah, if that is the vibe you are getting, maybe you should let it go, if not indefinitely, then at least for as long as you have been talking about meeting. Find another way to pass your time, perhaps go to the gym or play an MMO or do volunteer work, anything that has a social aspect, or play the MFC field a bit more. On the one hand, that will occupy your mind with other stuff, and on the other hand, that will let her know that you aren't completely dependent on her for your emotional wellbeing, both of which are positive things under your present circumstances.
 
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I've been in a situation where a cam girl wanted to meet irl but I was the one to say no to doing it and it never happened. Something I regret and always will regret. However she remains my best friend and I'll have to live with being called a "chicken" whenever the topic of us never meeting irl is brought back up.

In the case described by the original poster it seems that the cam girl is the one having cold feet so my advice is to drop the idea of meeting and then go on from there.
 
I might come off a bit rude, so I do apologize. But I do have to say that being on the model side I am SICK AND TIRED of the wanting to MEET bs. We are cam girls, there is a reason that we do this in the safety of our own homes, behind closed doors in front of a computer. Do you realize that we have our own private lives that we live off cam, people in our home town that we have as friends? When I am on cam I am entertaining, it is my full time JOB. yes it is an awesome job, but when that computer and cam are off, Im enjoying my private time without being watched by 100's of guys. speaking of, what makes you think that you are any more entitled to meet her than anyone else. She is smart for keeping you at bay... HELLO... why on earth would anyone meet any guy they met on a site that pays girls for private shows with toys and such. I know I for one am not trying to end up in a ditch dead. I dont know why your guys cant get it through your heads that we dont want or care to meet you, really... its not rude, its just blunt and honest. yes you may worship the ground i walk on when im on cam and thats great, and im all yours for that time, but enough with the meeting shit because quite frankly its way too invasive and makes us feel uncomfortable. If i had any interest in meeting a guy off the internet it sure as hell wouldn't be one who's seen me naked or watched me toy myself on a regular basis... seriously think about it. It creeps us out and we start buying guns and shit!
 
Alexa, it's a totally legit point and it goes back to what I said before: most people act differently on the Internet than they do in real life. Because of that, you just don't know who you're going to run into. Especially if you don't talk to that guy often or via non-camsite means (email, IM, etc.).
 
Mikeythegeek said:
Alexa, it's a totally legit point and it goes back to what I said before: most people act differently on the Internet than they do in real life. Because of that, you just don't know who you're going to run into. Especially if you don't talk to that guy often or via non-camsite means (email, IM, etc.).

Even WITH extra communication via email, IM, phone, whatever you can still end up with a nut bag. Been there, done that. :?
 
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Hey doll,

From a cam girl perspective...you have to understand how scary it is to not only put yourself out there in such a vulnerable way, but with all the horrid things that have happened with myspace/facebook or just in real life where there are a lot of sick people only out to hurt girls.

On the sites, I'm there to make friends and stuff, but I would never get close enough to meet with anyone. Some girls get a little swept up with it, and then later sit down and think about if it's a good idea or not. Some girls meet with people and it works out or it doesn't. Just depends on the girl and the situation.

It's really adorable that you're concerned about it, but I wouldn't be. If she's serious, she'll contact you for the meeting. But the more you push, the less she'll want to, I can tell you that right now. Just be patient, but don't keep your hopes up. Expect the worst, hope for the best. :) Then you can't be dissapointed. LOL

I hope I don't sound too harsh or anything, just trying to be blunt. MUAH!!
If you have any more questions...let me know! :-D


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I like alexa :D

I have met a few people off of MFC, but only because I went to a convention. While some of them were cool to meet, I never cared one way or another about meeting them. It just kind of happened. And I'd say about 50% of the guys I met (who knew me from MFC) were fucktards. Some were awesome. Others were weird, but nice. How many would I ever be friends with in real life? About 20%. Why that low a percentage? Because 2 out of 10 didn't care about seeing me naked/didn't openly lust at me/did not creep me the fuck out/weren't stonecold idiots.
 
Until you've had a random man knock on your doorstep and say "Hi *insert real name here*, wow you look so much prettier IRL than on cam"....then you will never understand why it is that us camgirls tend to want our privacy and safety respected. I can't stand the guys who ask to meet me, or want to be "special" enough to know my real name. Eff that. I've been there, done that, and have been burned bigtime because of the crazy wackjobs. Not sure what the girl in the original post is doing, but most camgirls, if not all, don't want to meet you. We LIKE having our online fun...but we want to keep it online. Otherwise, we'd be at the stripclub or meeting you in hotel rooms.
 
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Ok one last thing... lemme get this straight. You say that pretty much all you did for her was get her a bday gift? Im sure you've watched this model on a regular basis, and its not like you are being generous with tips and contributing to her shows.
Imstupid said:
I must clarify that she for sure wasn't/isn't playing me for money because other than a present for her birthday there has been none involved.
so you sitting there in free chat soaking it all up FREELOADING... and you expect to meet her. bahahahahahah!!! but you're willing to pay for gas, or a plane ticket to see her. It is guys like you that make me want to scream and throw my logi! Yes there are some guys on this site that we care about more than others because they dont expect these thing out of us. MFC is not a place to catch a date, seriously why would you even expect this when a few clicks away is a girl shoving the whole produce department up her ass!!
I read this on another site, but here's the thing... since you fancy her so much and all that, eventually the little date is going to come to an end, and what happens when she tries to leave?

sorry if i may seem a bit hostile :) part pms and part personal experience. Ive had my house google mapped buy a creeper who crossed the line with me obviously. I never even gave him my address, he was a fucking loon. Then theres the guys who barely know me and say I'll fly you out here for the weekend, well duh I have a 4 year old, oh yeah bring him along.... Seriously. Why on earth would I do that, Im not even going to get into how wrong that is.

one final note:
leave the poor girl alone, if you aren't contributing to her shows and are just putting unneeded pressure on her, think of how many guys give her this proposition on a daily bases. I know when I have guys like you in my room my earnings suffer. So spare her the stress and either hit up some youporn and match.com :) theres always adultfriend finder. because for all you know she could be married with 6 kids, really.
 
Thanks everyone for the replys and the honesty even when some posts come a bit harsh. Very helpful as I am not a camgirl so don't know what you girls have to deal with.

I want to clarify a few things though.

alexa7 said:
If i had any interest in meeting a guy off the internet it sure as hell wouldn't be one who's seen me naked or watched me toy myself on a regular basis

I haven't seen her naked, not the slightest bit nor "toy herself" (not that kind of model anyways), and I am not interested in doing it. Even if she did, I wouldn't due to respect for her and I think we both would feel weird and very uncomfortable in a situation like that.

We have a "normal online friendship" if that even exist... so as normal as it gets given the circumstances.

I was just a bored guy that logged into a site that clearly is not made for me. As lucky or unlucky I was by doing it I started speaking with a girl and thought, 'hey this girl is kind of cool' and just kept speaking with her. You kind of know the rest of the story.

alexa7 said:
since you fancy her so much and all that, eventually the little date is going to come to an end, and what happens when she tries to leave?

Leave!? No way, I have a place for her on my basement :lol: Now seriously, "try" to leave? I'm not even sure you are serious or I understand the question but just in case, I wasn't thinking on kidnapping her :lol: What happens on a date? (i don't think I would even call it a date) you hang out, have more or less fun and after that you either keep in touch or you don't.

alexa7 said:
Ok one last thing... lemme get this straight. You say that pretty much all you did for her was get her a bday gift? Im sure you've watched this model on a regular basis, and its not like you are being generous with tips and contributing to her shows.
so you sitting there in free chat soaking it all up FREELOADING... and you expect to meet her. bahahahahahah!!! but you're willing to pay for gas, or a plane ticket to see her. It is guys like you that make me want to scream and throw my logi! [...]

No shows, no freeloading, etc. If I get her a present or whatever its just because I would do the same in a "normal" situation. I am the same guy all the time. Obviously you are pointing out something quite important here (though the context is quite different), there have been some flaws in my thinking and is the fact that I forget that she is working. More of this at the end of my post.


AlexLady said:
You should have clicked one of the Match.com banners and not MFC.

I wasn't looking for anything and probably I shouldn't have clicked anything. I would've avoid a lot of things by not snooping around, "curiosity Killed the Cat".



And the last thing, we were going to meet. We didn't and talk about it, reasons, etc. It's not like I go around trying to meet people I know on the internet, it would've been a first for me too. The topic has not been brought up again so I am not pushing anything but obviously I think about it. As I said this is all new for me and I know its crazy, hell I wouldn't believe I would find myself ever thinking like this and I would've bet everything I have on it. Probably if I read myself I would think "what a loser 'chasing' a girl on the internet" and laugh but... here I am. I figured out I can't be the only fool in the world so why not ask for help/advice/perspective on it.

Again thanks for every single reply helping me to get some lights on it. The first thing should have been to put myself on her place but its hard to do when you have no clue on how things look from there. I think my problem is that I was looking at the situation in a 'too normal way' when in reality it isn't, everything around it can actually be quite creepy specially from her side of the cam. I've got so comfortable speaking with her and I am so distant with the rest of the things going on in the site that I forgot about where we are speaking and the fact that she is there working.
 
Imstupid said:
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We have a "normal online friendship" if that even exist... so as normal as it gets given the circumstances.

I was just a bored guy that logged into a site that clearly is not made for me. As lucky or unlucky I was by doing it I started speaking with a girl and thought, 'hey this girl is kind of cool' and just kept speaking with her. You kind of know the rest of the story.

...

No shows, no freeloading, etc. If I get her a present or whatever its just because I would do the same in a "normal" situation. I am the same guy all the time. Obviously you are pointing out something quite important here (though the context is quite different), there have been some flaws in my thinking and is the fact that I forget that she is working. More of this at the end of my post.


AlexLady said:
You should have clicked one of the Match.com banners and not MFC.

I wasn't looking for anything and probably I shouldn't have clicked anything. I would've avoid a lot of things by not snooping around, "curiosity Killed the Cat".

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I think my problem is that I was looking at the situation in a 'too normal way' when in reality it isn't, everything around it can actually be quite creepy specially from her side of the cam. I've got so comfortable speaking with her and I am so distant with the rest of the things going on in the site that I forgot about where we are speaking and the fact that she is there working.

You -were- freeloading. It's as much of her "job" to fuck herself and be sexy as it is to socialize with you. Sure, both of those things are fun, a whole lot of fun, and girls will do it for free - but when it comes to you watching, or you being the one to get her attention - that's when it's her "job." You're just using an excuse that since it's not sexual, it's not something you should pay for. You're taking up her time, energy, and so on, that she could spend on someone else. Just because she's enjoying it doesn't mean she couldn't enjoy it with someone else - someone who would value the time with her.

Yeah, you can make a friend online. I do it all the time. However, that's online. It's fun and close, and hell, you can even love them in that friendly-not-creepy-way, but that doesn't mean you meet them. It's one thing if it's like a game guild event, but two people? Why the fuck would you do that? My friendship with you is via the internet, it's going to stay on the internet. I'm sure most girls feel the same about that.

There are tons of people who come to this site and neither want nor get anything sexual out of it. That doesn't mean that this site still isn't for them, only that they'll like social models better than sexual. The reason this site isn't for you is because you clearly don't know how to have friends online.


Over all, you're not being creepy; you're being disrespectful.
 
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There is a whole reasoning behind it but its not worth explaining when this part of the conversation can be closed with a simple sentence: She doesn't want me to.

We still speak in a regular basis.
 
AlexLady said:
Imstupid said:
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We have a "normal online friendship" if that even exist... so as normal as it gets given the circumstances.

I was just a bored guy that logged into a site that clearly is not made for me. As lucky or unlucky I was by doing it I started speaking with a girl and thought, 'hey this girl is kind of cool' and just kept speaking with her. You kind of know the rest of the story.

...

No shows, no freeloading, etc. If I get her a present or whatever its just because I would do the same in a "normal" situation. I am the same guy all the time. Obviously you are pointing out something quite important here (though the context is quite different), there have been some flaws in my thinking and is the fact that I forget that she is working. More of this at the end of my post.


AlexLady said:
You should have clicked one of the Match.com banners and not MFC.

I wasn't looking for anything and probably I shouldn't have clicked anything. I would've avoid a lot of things by not snooping around, "curiosity Killed the Cat".

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I think my problem is that I was looking at the situation in a 'too normal way' when in reality it isn't, everything around it can actually be quite creepy specially from her side of the cam. I've got so comfortable speaking with her and I am so distant with the rest of the things going on in the site that I forgot about where we are speaking and the fact that she is there working.

You -were- freeloading. It's as much of her "job" to fuck herself and be sexy as it is to socialize with you. Sure, both of those things are fun, a whole lot of fun, and girls will do it for free - but when it comes to you watching, or you being the one to get her attention - that's when it's her "job." You're just using an excuse that since it's not sexual, it's not something you should pay for. You're taking up her time, energy, and so on, that she could spend on someone else. Just because she's enjoying it doesn't mean she couldn't enjoy it with someone else - someone who would value the time with her.

Yep, in this business time is money. If she's spending her time socializing and stuff with guys who aren't paying for her time, then she's missing out on time with guys who WOULD pay her. If no one pays a girl for her time then there's no point of her being online at all because she'd have to get a normal 9-5 job to pay the bills. Etc Etc.
 
Imstupid said:
There is a whole reasoning behind it but its not worth explaining when this part of the conversation can be closed with a simple sentence: She doesn't want me to.

We still speak in a regular basis.

I am only quoting this because I'm being lazy, and because I have to make this kinda quick before I do my homework and housework and shit...

But I haven't yet put my three cents in...
So:

1- I applaud the fact that you realize the idea is crazy to begin with.
2- I applaud the fact that you admit you don't know her side of it
3- I applaud you looking to understand it from her side
4- I applaud you for dropping it when she didn't want it. (You have NO idea how many men don't drop it)
5- I applaud you for your choice in name (I am of the personal opinion that everyone is stupid, including myself, just that there are different areas and levels of stupidity, so some people can cultivate the illusion of smarts by avoiding their particular area of stupidity, while others have an area of stupidity that cannot be avoided)

All that said, I think you've already gotten some insight into what probably happened. Here's what I'm reading:

-you wandered onto MFC not knowing the nature of the site
-you made a friend on MFC the way you would on any other site you go on
-you grew so close that the decision to meet was reached
-suddenly, she says it's a no-go, and you're left wondering why

On her side:

-she's going about her normal business of being a camwhore. Whether she's a non-nude model or a pusher has yet to be said, but from your comments she's at least on the modest end of the spectrum.
-she meets a regular who is sweet, but doesn't really spend money on her
-she receives a birthday present from said regular
-she grows close enough to the regular that the idea of meeting is brought up
-she likes this person, and doesn't want to lose his friendship, her initial gut-reaction is YES! LET'S DO IT!
-she realizes that she met the person at her job, and that her job is sexually related
-other people have been pushing her to meet for sex. she's probably heard that guys are tricky about it, and has definitely seen the guys who will say "no, I won't ask for that in private" and then turn around and ask for it
-she becomes unsure, and backs out of it

Now, from what girls on this site have said, and from my own experience, there are two types of people who contribute to the positive mood
-those that provide conversation within certain boundaries
-those who tip

There are many ways in which a person can disturb the good vibe in the room
-pushing for freebies or things that will never happen
-insulting either the model or those that frequent her room
-anything that upsets/stresses the model

I have had many premium members who start talking about how much they want to see me, and whining about how much they miss me when I'm gone, and focus on how much they wish they were the most special person in my life. These guys freak me out, which upsets the good vibe.

You do not seem to be there. But I don't know, since I don't have the chat logs. What I can say is, you said you aren't pushing it, so good. Congratulations, you recognize that pushing someone to do something she's said "no" to is NOT being a friend. What the other models are saying is that if you were to push for it, you would do more than just prove you were not a friend, you would upset the vibe in the room and start taking away her income.

As to spending any time at all talking with a friend when they are there, I don't think that does decrease income. It does if she's doing so instead of paying attention to someone who just tipped, but if it's normal conversation time, then talking with someone who is a true friend is a pick-me-up, which is good for conversation.

The last thing I'd like to say is that meetings between two people who met online and became friends do happen. But they have to be done in a smart way. Neutral, public territory, preferably with another real-life friend there for the girl. If the topic does ever come up again, then I suggest you suggest she bring a friend along. Don't add the "for your own protection", that would be creepy (as I'm sure you know), but that is what it is for. It *might* let her realize that you're not looking for a date, you're looking for a friendship. Please note, the might is starred.

Shit, I'm late for homework x.x
 
My opinion, as just a member, is MFC isn't the place to look for anything offline - be it friendship or dating. However, the way you described it, it seemed it was agreed consensually and without ulterior motives (her getting excessive tips).

The cold hard truth is, it seems she no longer wants to meet in person - this could be for any number of reasons. Hell, maybe she met someone - LOTS of camgirls have boyfriends etc even though they often say they're single and often they'll not mention them for fear of driving away some regulars.

Some might disagree with me but if I was in your situation and I valued her friendship I think I'd be honest with her and just straight up ask her if she no longer wants to meet, is nervous about meeting someone offline, met someone or whatever - and ask her in a non-confrontational way to give her the opportunity to be honest.

From that point forward, perhaps she won't have a reason to be distant and you can continue your (online) friendship that it seems you both enjoy.

I genuinely like some camgirls, and if I met them in another situation than online I'd get along with them I think, however the point really is that it's MFC - enjoy their company here, fantasy is meant to be nothing more than that.
 
Admittedly I've wanted to be real friends with some of the girls I've met on MFC, hell its hard not to wanna see someone when you've connected on a personal, albeit friendly in my case, level.

I keep my comments towards a model's appearance or towards her show as tasteful as possible, because once I've placed a girl in the friend zone (why yes, guys can do this too) there's really no sexual attraction anymore.

But as I said awhile back in a topic I started related to this, I would never approach a cam girl outside of MFC, or Skin Video, or where ever she cams. Because reality is not the same as internet fantasy, and as friendly as I am towards the girls online, and as much as I value their friendship, reality has a funny way of changing things. A name with silly font and pink text on the internet is sweet, the guy behind that name in reality comes off as a freak.

"How did this person find me?" "Is he stalking me?" "should I call the police?"

Hypothetical situation of course, but that how I imagine even an accidental meeting going.
 
Jebbaz said:
I keep my comments towards a model's appearance or towards her show as tasteful as possible, because once I've placed a girl in the friend zone (why yes, guys can do this too) there's really no sexual attraction anymore.

Agreed, the chicks I get along best with on mfc (in most cases) I'm not really sexually attracted to anymore...even though I was at first sight...and I don't really care to see them naked or not.

As for meeting them (if we lived in the same city), if it happened it happened - but I doubt I'd suggest a meeting. If they wanted to go for a coffee I'd agree, but all in all MFC is neither a dating nor friendship site - and anyone who attempts to make it one is in for disappointment.

There are exceptions though, a friend of mine on the site has met a number of models (no, not for sex), and AveryPearl vacationed with a member (again, not sexual lol).

Meeting someone on the internet is really no different to meeting them anywhere - you can't tell what kind of person someone is by looking at them and hearing their voice. MFC however is certainly more likely to attract creepy, and older, guys.
 
SpexyAshleigh said:
Yep, in this business time is money. If she's spending her time socializing and stuff with guys who aren't paying for her time, then she's missing out on time with guys who WOULD pay her. If no one pays a girl for her time then there's no point of her being online at all because she'd have to get a normal 9-5 job to pay the bills. Etc Etc.

Yep.

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I'm sorry,but after reading all these posts it's amazing how people forget how love,building friendships,etc works.It's a fact more and more people are meeting online(Safely!!!).

I know a friend who dated a cam girl and there is even a book on dating cam girls lol.


Also it's not always the guy who says "Let's meet".Sometimes it's the cam girl who does it."Imstupid" <-- First off you're not STUPID!!!Meeting cams,dating cams,being friends with them,etc it's been done.

As for bothering them at work.There's msn,yahoo,etc.After getting the e-mail/Messager/number just never visit the site again.


Reasons why a Mfc girl would wanna meet a guy.........

1.He spent a lot of tokens and won the chance too.
2.He was just saying the right things at the right times to get her thinking a lot about him.
3.If insecure it could be she is not getting enough attention in real life and mostly from mfc.
Then the only place to meet guys ends being mfc and so all of sudden you become that team support for her.
(Making laugh,making her forget her problems,Saying things like "Never give up"and asking noting in return)
4.Could be the girl is in a poor situation and just wants out so badly(Mainly because of money she will want you)
5.Could be you were the one she needed to work the most and was noting like the "Hey bb","Look at my D***",etc type of guys.You were a challenge,but not too much so as to get her to give up,so then love came about.We tend to want what we can't have or that is higher value.

Last:If you want to meet someone,then go in a group or have someone watching from the sidelines.I'm sure most people would do this.

Quick reasons why it's a not a bad idea..........

1.You know there real.How many people come on dating sites to be e-mailing back and forward thinking it's a girl to find out it's a man?At cam sites you know there real,so you can relax on that.
2.They work there,so as long as there cool with it you can get to know them better.
3.If your smart and witty enough there's many ways to see if a cam girl is being fake,just gotta be smart and witty enough,because true intension will be revealed.



Remember that you girls are not robots,so you have emotions.I heard girls over and over saying "I only date this type of guy" to find them dating that type of kind of guy.There's no point stereotyping cam girls,because all don't think the same,have the same experiences,grew up the same,etc.The logic part may say "NO",but the rest of you will say "Yes".

Many people try to pick up women while they work.In fact I just hours ago tried to pick up a girl at a store.The point is to not bother them and once you feel that things are good ask for her number/email or whatever and never bother her at work again.


That is the end.If anyone disagrees with anything I said,then it would be nice to know.Like you guys I talk from experience,watching my friends(We always have that time of the week to meet new people or interact with them),Psychology and human behavior.


Fact:Relationships can happen anyway.If it happens it happens.
Example:A couple met when one dialed the wrong number on the phone.After talking for a number of weeks just on the phone without seeing each other they finally met,then dated and finally married.It happens.

What I know:As long as there's enough time(mfc has this),repeated encounters(mfc has this),emotion(Not robots,so mtf has this) and each has to want something or if you can meet a special need(Not tokens),then building a relationship is very likely to happen.


Peace!!!
 
Beingreal said:
1.You know there real.How many people come on dating sites to be e-mailing back and forward thinking it's a girl to find out it's a man?At cam sites you know there real,so you can relax on that.

This is NOT a dating site and it is annoying to no end when guys cannot understand that!! Yes, you may not see a person on a dating site on cam normally (though you can easily request a skype date before meeting), but just because you can see the cam girl doesn't mean it's a brilliant idea to try to date her. Do you try to date movie stars that you see on the big screen? Trying to date cam girls b/c you see them on a screen is just as silly.
 
It really grinds my gears that a lot of models, and even a handful of top models are offering raffles for "dates" and to meet up with members.
Its giving false hope to other members and making them think that their fav model will do the same thing as well.

If you cared for a girl, you wouldn't pressure her into doing something she is not comfortable doing. Period.

As someone else stated, go to match or fling or iwanttodatesomeonefromtheinternet.com. There are thousands of women who would die to meet you. For free even!

MFC IS NOT A DATING SITE! :naughty: :woops:
 
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KileyBright said:
As someone else stated, go to match or fling or iwanttodatesomeonefromtheinternet.com. There are thousands of women who would die to meet you. For free even!

Yup, Russian girls want to date you!! Be warned though, they will actively message you - studies show Russian women are very attracted to western men!

Here's proof:
 

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