The Black Lives Matters thread.

[justjoinedtopost]

MikeTO, would you like to just post a link?

https://www.youtube.com/

 

[MikeTO]

Sorry it's to educate the clueless people on here. From what I am seeing I don't see any change coming so I guess I'll just sit back and watch the shit happens. i don't live in the USA anyways.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Sorry it's to educate the clueless people on here. From what I am seeing I don't see any change coming so I guess I'll just sit back and watch the shit happens. i don't live in the USA anyways.

BIG FUCKING SURPRISE!

 

[MikeTO]

Why are you complaining? In the other forums the information and videos were appreciated. In fact when I left quite a few users were disappointed but it was their loss.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Why are you complaining? In the other forums the information and videos were appreciated. In fact when I left quite a few users were disappointed but it was their loss.

Not really complaining. Chuckling more than anything.

I have seen good cops and bad. White and black racists.
I suspect you are here to stoke racial tensions. Whether at the behest of the cultural marxists or the fascists I do not know.

I just got done talking to a black Trump supporter. Good guy. You want I should put it on youtube?

 

[EspiKvlt]

Stick with something you know which is obviously caming

i don't live in the USA anyways.

Just.... lol

 

[MikeTO]

Not really complaining. Chuckling more than anything.

I have seen good cops and bad. White and black racists.
I suspect you are here to stoke racial tensions. Whether at the behest of the cultural marxists or the fascists I do not know.

I just got done talking to a black Trump supporter. Good guy. You want I should put it on youtube?

Not all. Us Canadians don't buy into the bullshit because we saw it was for real. I initially supported black lives matter, when Michael Brown got shot. Until I started doing my own research. BLM ruined the gay parade, by taking over it. Just because I don't support blm doesn't mean i want to cause racial tension. I will not be afraid to speak my mind and i want this madness to end but people are too brain wash to see the truth.
If you BLM think you can do better than get your training and be a cop. It is not easy being a cop. Have you had to deal with people on drugs or with weapons? When your life is on the line it's either the criminal or you. To think otherwise is full of shit. Btw I didn't start this thread but you can't accuse me of starting anything. I had a woman who was on drugs that had a knife. It took 3 of us to get her let of the damn knife. Before forcing the knife out of her hand I had to punched, pull her hair and crap and she didn't feel a thing. What would you do if you had a gun and person wouldn't let go of the knife and endanger another person? You also forget these black people especially women claim these are good men when it's proven they are criminals who refuse to follow orders. Black women support these criminals because they benefit financially. It really boggles my mind. Nothing is going to be resolved when people can't look inward.
I'm not some pussy that hides behind a computer if I wanted to start racial tensions I can just walk a few blocks and do it.

 

[EspiKvlt]

Have you had to deal with people on drugs or with weapons?

Yes. Shockingly, cops aren't the only ones that have people like this around them.

 

[MikeTO]

There is practically a genocide in the black communities in the USA. I guess BLM is really a distraction to really what is going on. Flint water poisoning that the people knew about. False cancer diagnosis that can kill some people. Statically speaking black men getting shot by cops is very small compared to the number of blacks being poisoned with lead or with cancer medication. Chemo is known to kill a lot of people. Some people are lucky to live through it.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

There is practically a genocide in the black communities in the USA. I guess BLM is really a distraction to really what is going on. Flint water poisoning that the people knew about. False cancer diagnosis that can kill some people. Statically speaking black men getting shot by cops is very small compared to the number of blacks being poisoned with lead or with cancer medication. Chemo is known to kill a lot of people. Some people are lucky to live through it.

Well I am fortunate. In my area we have a lot of good cops. Got a lot of good people black/white who can see both sides of it.

Interesting vid. Thanks for posting. I am off to do some research. Got to make sure it isn't fake news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News#Criticism_and_controversies

 

[MFCGod]

The Black Lives Matter movement was set up for failure from the very start

Here's why - https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/sharing-opinions-constructively.26184/

If you want people to listen to you, you have to deliver your message in such away that people are open to it

If you start off with a name like "Black Lives Matter" and it makes a large majority of people get defensive and say "Don't all lives matter?" you've failed massively

Everyone should be able to get behind a movement against police brutality and the corruption that lets officers get away with it.. how can you fuck that up

Not to mention in the UK they were stopping traffic and fucking up flights - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-protesters-occupy-london-city-airport-runway

That's a brilliant way to make everyone who should be sympathetic to your cause find you clowns

The only thing BLM seems to have achieved is causing more hate and hostility

Their original message and mission might have been perfect, their execution has been shit

 

[EspiKvlt]

If you start off with a name like "Black Lives Matter" and it makes a large majority of people get defensive and say "Don't all lives matter?" you've failed massively

Saying black lives matter isn't also saying that other lives don't matter. The only failure here is a failure to understand the grammatical meaning of saying black lives matter, which is not saying "Only Black Lives Matter."

 

[Shutterbuck]

Why are you complaining? In the other forums the information and videos were appreciated. In fact when I left quite a few users were disappointed but it was their loss.

I suppose I would have to experience this to believe it...

 

[MFCGod]

Saying black lives matter isn't also saying that other lives don't matter. The only failure here is a failure to understand the grammatical meaning of saying black lives matter, which is not saying "Only Black Lives Matter."

I think you misunderstood my meaning

Has the "all lives matter" not been a big argument generally?

If you can't deliver your message in a palatable manner to the masses because a large chunk got hung up on your name you fucked up as an organisation

 

[zippypinhead]

I suppose I would have to experience this to believe it...

Something tells me we'll be getting that experience one way or another soon enough.

 

[MikeTO]

The Black Lives Matter movement was set up for failure from the very start

Here's why - https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/sharing-opinions-constructively.26184/

If you want people to listen to you, you have to deliver your message in such away that people are open to it

If you start off with a name like "Black Lives Matter" and it makes a large majority of people get defensive and say "Don't all lives matter?" you've failed massively

Everyone should be able to get behind a movement against police brutality and the corruption that lets officers get away with it.. how can you fuck that up

Not to mention in the UK they were stopping traffic and fucking up flights - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-protesters-occupy-london-city-airport-runway

That's a brilliant way to make everyone who should be sympathetic to your cause find you clowns

The only thing BLM seems to have achieved is causing more hate and hostility

Their original message and mission might have been perfect, their execution has been shit

You're making assumption making on lies. People don't want to be held accountable. It's all the same with every group I have encountered. With you kid, you need to be coddled and babied? Please tell me how the very same black people claim these men are shot are good men when many of them commit the crimes. It's real easy to judge behind a computer or real in real life. Should I change your diapers too and coddle you?

 

[EspiKvlt]

You're making assumption making on lies. People don't want to be held accountable. It's all the same with every group I have encountered. With you kid, you need to be coddled and babied? Please tell me how the very same black people claim these men are shot are good men when many of them commit the crimes. It's real easy to judge behind a computer or real in real life. Should I change your diapers too and coddle you?

I'm now so confused. Wasn't @MFCGod agreeing with you? Are you just wanting to fight everybody?

 

[Gen]

I think you misunderstood my meaning

Has the "all lives matter" not been a big argument generally?

If you can't deliver your message in a palatable manner to the masses because a large chunk got hung up on your name you fucked up as an organisation

That's assuming those same people would've otherwise supported the movement, which is a pretty big leap.

Also I don't think BLM is about police corruption as a whole so much as how it intersects with black people specifically. Which may make it less marketable to the general public but personally I'm a fan of naming the issue you actually are fighting for and not trying to make every movement as widespread and watered-down as possible just to get support. I think while you might get more support, you lose effectiveness and any clear goal you have will be lost in a sea of trying to accommodate everyone.

 

[MFCGod]

Also I don't think BLM is about police corruption as a whole so much as how it intersects with black people specifically. Which may make it less marketable to the general public

I thought it was based largely around the police and legal system, If I'm mistaken on their main cause, again I would say that's a failing of the group

 

[EspiKvlt]

I thought it was based largely around the police and legal system, If I'm mistaken on their main cause, again I would say that's a failing of the group

It is. @GenXoxo said it's specifically about how police interact with black people, as opposed to all people as a collective. While the general public may be more willing to get on board with a simple cry against police corruption, the intersection of racism against black victims makes it more difficult for it to be as widespread as it could have been otherwise.

 

[mynameisbob84]

 

[zippypinhead]

I thought it was based largely around the police and legal system, If I'm mistaken on their main cause, again I would say that's a failing of the group

Couldn't be a failing on your part? Refusal by certain segments of the public to understand the context of the protest seems to be a pretty rampant issue, and "all lives matter" as a counterpoint to the protest is an argument based in a lack of context.

 

[MFCGod]

It is. @GenXoxo said it's specifically about how police interact with black people, as opposed to all people as a collective. While the general public may be more willing to get on board with a simple cry against police corruption, the intersection of racism against black victims makes it more difficult for it to be as widespread as it could have been otherwise.

• Is police brutality bad. Yes
• Should police be able to get away with it. No
• Should something be done about it since they are. Yes

Would the majority of people agree with the above? id certainly like to think so

The fact BLM have failed to get people behind such a simple and agreeable argument is really an astounding failure

From their name to their protests, instead of uniting everyone around a just cause, they have created division

 

[Gen]

• Is police brutality bad. Yes
• Should police be able to get away with it. No
• Should something be done about it since they are. Yes

Would the majority of people agree with the above? id certainly like to think so

The fact BLM have failed to get people behind such a simple and agreeable argument is really an astounding failure

From their name to their protests, instead of uniting everyone around a just cause, they have created division

That's presuming people agree that these cases are police brutality, that police should be limited, etc. Not everyone agrees on those things, and either way, it's not BLM's job to represent everyone and everything.

MRAs and feminists both claim to care about sexism but I'm pretty sure we can all see how different their actual views and goals are. That's why they're two separate movements. likewise people who might theoretically care about police brutality but don't think it's happening in any of the cases that BLM highlights are never going to agree with the messaging BLM puts out, even if they had framed it as All Lives Matter.

 

[LioraVox]

If "all lives mattered" wouldn't one have to ask why a group called "black lives matter" was created in the first place?

Wouldn't that be considered stating the obvious? But for BLM to exist there must be something there that's not being discussed or talked about so therefor they created a space to discuss it.

And in my personal opinion, if you're going to support a group -their ideas, their goals it shouldn't matter what the name is called you support the movement-not the name. Getting hung up on the name just shows that people don't understand how to support something that doesn't benefit them directly. I.e. Someone saying "breast cancer awareness"? Why not "just cancer awareness", why specify breast cancer- aren't all cancers bad? Shouldn't we be focusing on curing all types of cancer?!?!?-I'm not going to support this organization because it doesn't include all cancer awareness-even though I support finding a cure for cancer in general."

If a person doesn't agree with the motivations and goals behind why the group was created nor support the things theyre trying to achieve-then fine. But to not support BECAUSE a name doesn't make you/others feel included just proves peoples egocentric/egotistical behaviors.

 

[Mikey_P]

black men are saying the same shit I'm saying and I have researched it. I didn't pull it out of my ass like some people on here.

MikeTO, are you a Tommy Sotomayor fan? I ask because he is a black guy who has a pretty large following on Youtube who preaches exactly what you just said. I'm not a huge fan of his, it takes awhile to get to the subtext of all his inflammatory videos but there is some substance underneath all his anti-ghetto black woman videos! It seems like he is just bullying sometimes but there is a method to his madness.

Basically, poor black males, raised by poor uneducated single mothers in poor areas, have the habit of emotionally mimicking their hoodrat mother. Mix in the hypermasculinity of ghetto black culture and you basically get a testosterone fueled, no daddy, no home training male hoodrat who is prone to violence, disrespect and emotional outbursts.

I'm black and I've been saying that for YEARS!

Black ppl have to call out other black ppl on their BS and this horrible culture that has been created. Truthfully, bad black people make it hard for normal law abiding black ppl in the world! I was afraid to wear my hoodie the other day (in 27 degree weather) just because I didn't want anyone to think of me as a thug or shoot me! Things you worry about when you are a black man, even if you are in a good neighborhood with like zero crime.

The corollary to the above is that many people who make the above type of argument tend to lack any empathy for an entire group of people and explaining the conditions (self-inflicted, group inflicted or other inflicted) is often written off as excuse making.

I would like to hear objective and balanced arguments but most ppl just get emotional.

Yes, it is a huge problem.

 

[MikeTO]

I thought it was based largely around the police and legal system, If I'm mistaken on their main cause, again I would say that's a failing of the group

So then why are these blm members attack white people who have nothing to do with legal system?

MikeTO, are you a Tommy Sotomayor fan? I ask because he is a black guy who has a pretty large following on Youtube who preaches exactly what you just said. I'm not a huge fan of his, it takes awhile to get to the subtext of all his inflammatory videos but there is some substance underneath all his anti-ghetto black woman videos! It seems like he is just bullying sometimes but there is a method to his madness.

Basically, poor black males, raised by poor uneducated single mothers in poor areas, have the habit of emotionally mimicking their hoodrat mother. Mix in the hypermasculinity of ghetto black culture and you basically get a testosterone fueled, no daddy, no home training male hoodrat who is prone to violence, disrespect and emotional outbursts.

I'm black and I've been saying that for YEARS!

Black ppl have to call out other black ppl on their BS and this horrible culture that has been created. Truthfully, bad black people make it hard for normal law abiding black ppl in the world! I was afraid to wear my hoodie the other day (in 27 degree weather) just because I didn't want anyone to think of me as a thug or shoot me! Things you worry about when you are a black man, even if you are in a good neighborhood with like zero crime.

The corollary to the above is that many people who make the above type of argument tend to lack any empathy for an entire group of people and explaining the conditions (self-inflicted, group inflicted or other inflicted) is often written off as excuse making.

I would like to hear objective and balanced arguments but most ppl just get emotional.

Yes, it is a huge problem.

No I'm not a Tommy fan he is a HUGE troll. He makes his living bashing black women. There is a huge gender war with the black community. Have you heard of BWGTOW? These black women want black men shot by cops. They also tell black women to abort male fetuses. One of the BWGTOW even doxxed a black man who had nothing to do with him. And then the swirlers had this white man fired because he said he didn't like dating black women based on his personal experiences. They would call his work place and harass them by email and phone.
Don't take my word for it. I know men in their 60's that don't hold themselves accountable and saying Western women are toxic. Some truth to it. Most people don't want to be held accountable, including men. Color has nothing to do with the issue. Btw more unarmed white people get shot than unarmed black people so clearly it's not a race issue.


In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...han-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/

You should watch this video this black woman justifies dating thugs. BGS IBMOR corrects her and put her in place. Personally BGS had a beef with me. He didn't want to take responsibility for his own failture with his relationship. But later he admitted that having sex during his younger years lead him to a lot of problems.

Stefan Molyeux has a video that shows proof that single mothers create criminals. it has nothing to do with race.

 

[BlairLuxe]

So then why are these blm members attack white people who have nothing to do with legal system?

No I'm not a Tommy fan he is a HUGE troll. He makes his living bashing black women. There is a huge gender war with the black community. Have you heard of BWGTOW? These black women want black men shot by cops. They also tell black women to abort male fetuses. One of the BWGTOW even doxxed a black man who had nothing to do with him. And then the swirlers had this white man fired because he said he didn't like dating black women based on his personal experiences. They would call his work place and harass them by email and phone.
Don't take my word for it. I know men in their 60's that don't hold themselves accountable and saying Western women are toxic. Some truth to it. Most people don't want to be held accountable, including men. Color has nothing to do with the issue. Btw more unarmed white people get shot than unarmed black people so clearly it's not a race issue.


In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/

You should watch this video this black woman justifies dating thugs. BGS IBMOR corrects her and put her in place. Personally BGS had a beef with me. He didn't want to take responsibility for his own failture with his relationship. But later he admitted that having sex during his younger years lead him to a lot of problems.

Stefan Molyeux has a video that shows proof that single mothers create criminals. it has nothing to do with race.

I'm having a really hard time sticking to camming with my silly little camwhore brain, so I looked into that awesome Washington Post database you recommended!

I'm having a really hard time understanding why you used the second statement I bolded (in purple) to follow up the first statement I bolded (in green). The article you linked even has statistics in it which better represent fatal shootings of UNARMED individuals, which would align more closely with the first bolded statement and give a better idea of the rates of unarmed people being fatally shot by police. The statistics you stated in this post, though, are not about fatal police shootings of unarmed individuals-- it's JUST about fatal police shootings, armed or not. However, The Washington Post's article does note how many of those shootings were of unarmed white people and how many of those shootings were of unarmed black people. It was the same number for both during that time period: 50. Between the same dates you are speaking of, of the same shootings you are speaking of, 50 of the 381 black individuals shot and killed were unarmed, and 50 of the 732 white people were unarmed. That means that during that time, in the US, out of all of the white people shot and killed by police officers, about 7% of them were unarmed. That also means that during that time, out of all of the black people shot and killed by police officers in the US, about 13% of them were unarmed, nearly twice what it was for white people. (Not to mention that this also means that a larger part of the white pool posed a potentially lethal threat to the police officer.)

That's not even thoroughly representative of the situation, though, because there are far fewer black people in the United States than white people. In the US, 62% of the population is white, and only 13% of the population is black. There are about 5 times as many white people in the country as black people. The same amount of unarmed white people and unarmed black people were shot, but there are 5 times as many white people than black people in the country, which means that if you are black and unarmed, you are 5x more likely to be shot and killed by a police officer than if you were white and unarmed.

I hope that you read my post with an open mind. In fact I REALLY hope you read my post with an open mind, because I made it really easy for you: I only used facts and statistics from the article YOU linked to us for good information! Thanks for the article!



Sincerely,

A camwhore with no criminal record, who has lived in predominantly black neighborhoods, raised in the USA by a proud, strong, single mother

 

[MikeTO]

I'm having a really hard time sticking to camming with my silly little camwhore brain, so I looked into that awesome Washington Post database you recommended!

I'm having a really hard time understanding why you used the second statement I bolded (in purple) to follow up the first statement I bolded (in green). The article you linked even has statistics in it which better represent fatal shootings of UNARMED individuals, which would align more closely with the first bolded statement and give a better idea of the rates of unarmed people being fatally shot by police. The statistics you stated in this post, though, are not about fatal police shootings of unarmed individuals-- it's JUST about fatal police shootings, armed or not. However, The Washington Post's article does note how many of those shootings were of unarmed white people and how many of those shootings were of unarmed black people. It was the same number for both during that time period: 50. Between the same dates you are speaking of, of the same shootings you are speaking of, 50 of the 381 black individuals shot and killed were unarmed, and 50 of the 732 white people were unarmed. That means that during that time, in the US, out of all of the white people shot and killed by police officers, about 7% of them were unarmed. That also means that during that time, out of all of the black people shot and killed by police officers in the US, about 13% of them were unarmed, nearly twice what it was for white people. (Not to mention that this also means that a larger part of the white pool posed a potentially lethal threat to the police officer.)

That's not even thoroughly representative of the situation, though, because there are far fewer black people in the United States than white people. In the US, 62% of the population is white, and only 13% of the population is black. There are about 5 times as many white people in the country as black people. The same amount of unarmed white people and unarmed black people were shot, but there are 5 times as many white people than black people in the country, which means that if you are black and unarmed, you are 5x more likely to be shot and killed by a police officer than if you were white and unarmed.

I hope that you read my post with an open mind. In fact I REALLY hope you read my post with an open mind, because I made it really easy for you: I only used facts and statistics from the article YOU linked to us for good information! Thanks for the article!



Sincerely,

A camwhore with no criminal record, who has lived in predominantly black neighborhoods, raised in the USA by a proud, strong, single mother

You still don't get it. It's because you're a stupid kid who think you better. When i was in my 20 and early 30's I didn't talk very much.
Just because a person is unarmed doesn't mean they are not danger to the public. I don't own a gun but I'm dangerous because of my martial arts background. You're cherry picking data to use against me that's fine. But you do not fully be able to use the data. For example people on drugs on can be very dangerous.

Now you will look stupid because I was setting a trap. You see the BLM is lying and perhaps the media. Tree of logic who is a black woman who used to be a cop proves the bullshit.

 

[EspiKvlt]

I don't own a gun but I'm dangerous because of my martial arts background.

I have never laughed so hard on this forum before. Thanks.