Mother and Daughter

[bob]

heh....i dunno....two things stuck with me
a/ mom was so drunk, she was totally outside herself, and yet still "right there".....i'd love to know what her thoughts on it where after she'd slept it off
b/ the age gap re: the monetary value of their sexuality was very cool....daughter really outta take a lesson from her mom, imo.

about the vid being "appropriate", and it's comparison to other mixes of gender/age/etc....i have pretty limited experience with mom/daughter talks about sex and love, yada yada -and airing a part of theirs on cam was odd, to say the least- but that's pretty much what i felt i was looking at.

it made me sad, more than uncomfortable

:twocents-02cents:

 

[Weirdtimmy]

i always assumed hot sisters aren't usually really related.. till i saw the 4 sister act on mfc.. err i don't even know why people find that hot.. at all

Again, it's just four beautiful women. If they happen to be sisters, oh well, if they're ok with doing shows together, then I'm more than happy to be a witness.

There's much worse things that you can see on MFC. Once I saw two women, pissing into each other's mouths. Now would you rather watch 2 women who happen to be sisters strip and dance around, or that? :twocents-02cents:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

i always assumed hot sisters aren't usually really related.. till i saw the 4 sister act on mfc.. err i don't even know why people find that hot.. at all

Again, it's just four beautiful women. If they happen to be sisters, oh well, if they're ok with doing shows together, then I'm more than happy to be a witness.

There's much worse things that you can see on MFC. Once I saw two women, pissing into each other's mouths. Now would you rather watch 2 women who happen to be sisters strip and dance around, or that? :twocents-02cents:

How about neither? That's like asking, would your rather drown or die in a fire. There are plenty of models who don't do pissing or sister shows. I choose that option.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

 

[Rose]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Generally speaking they can still identify you if you've been burned to death if you have any sort of dental records. Just sayin....At least then they wouldn't have to pop and drain your body like a giant dead zit.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

Seeing as the post I quoted was someone asking "I don't even know why people find this hot", I'm hardly the one passing judgement by explaining why it isn't offensive. You can think it's the worst thing in the world if you want, I don't care, I'm just saying to some people it's not.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

 

[Deleted member 8603]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

To back up your point, Megan.
I will also say that its not just "certain people" who dislike incest.

Its pretty much everyone.
There's a reason you can be banned for doing incest role-plays on most sites.
Not to mention the fact that people in pornography are MUCH more open minded than the general populace.
So if we have a problem with it, you can be damn sure the people walking around outside will have a bigger problem with it.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

To back up your point, Megan.
I will also say that its not just "certain people" who dislike incest.

Its pretty much everyone.
There's a reason you can be banned for doing incest role-plays on most sites.
Not to mention the fact that people in pornography are MUCH more open minded than the general populace.
So if we have a problem with it, you can be damn sure the people walking around outside will have a bigger problem with it.

I suspect that a large number of guys, possibly even a majority, are aroused by fantasy involving sisters and especially twins. I can think of at least 3 Playboy videos and dozens of pictorials and Playboy tends to cater to pretty mainstream fetishes. Mother and daughter is a bit more unusual but I don't think it is nearly uncommon as piss or shitting fetishes.
I am not sure that mothers and daughter masturbating together on camera even qualifies as incest, although I understand why people would look at that way. Anyway I have yet to hear of prosecution for public mother daughter shows and given the number out there, if it is truly illegal I'd think we'd hear more about it..

I think it is safe to say everybody has fetish that are into and are turned off by others. Personally, I don't get foot fetish but obviously a lot of guys and gals are turned on by feet :? .

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

To back up your point, Megan.
I will also say that its not just "certain people" who dislike incest.

Its pretty much everyone.
There's a reason you can be banned for doing incest role-plays on most sites.
Not to mention the fact that people in pornography are MUCH more open minded than the general populace.
So if we have a problem with it, you can be damn sure the people walking around outside will have a bigger problem with it.

I am not sure that mothers and daughter masturbating together on camera even qualifies as incest, although I understand why people would look at that way. Anyway I have yet to hear of prosecution for public mother daughter shows and given the number out there, if it is truly illegal I'd think we'd hear more about it..

I back Megan up too on this.

Also I swear people somehow think things are "ok" just because they're on camera.

If off camera those sisters/mother and daughter, or even a father/daughter would masturbate in front of each other/rub their boobs together/be naked together in a sexual way I would count that as incest, for me there's no questions there, it's definitely incest, sure it's not a "we're fucking hard" way, but it still counts, and if you were caught with proof then you could be arrested.
One of the reasons in porn they get away with it is because unless you find out their real names and investigate you will never know if it really if their mother or just an older woman. In fact I don't think many of the cases of porn when they say "mother and daughter" is really mother and daughter, and most guys who do watch that kind of stuff don't actually want it to be, they just like the role play/idea.

Just because the women aren't actually being turned on by something and are just doing it for the camera show/for men to get turned on by it doesn't stop what they're actually doing.

That's like me kissing one of my friends so a guy thinks it's hot, then claiming I didn't actually kiss her because it was just for the camera, or a prostitute having sex with a man but claiming it wasn't really sex because she wasn't enjoying it for the same reasons.

I have some pretty weird fantasies that will never and I don't want to ever get out of my head because in reality I wouldn't like it/think they're wrong. Yes in porn many people will get fucked by animals, piss on each other etc, we can see it everywhere, the internet is full of some crazy and often extremely wrong fetishes, just because we see it out there does not make it ok.

As for the incest thing.... well flashing with your mum is what it is, you're flashing your mum in front of strangers, do I think it's wrong/weird? yes. Is it incest if it's just that.... umm.... no but it's kind of borderline, more just on the category of odd and very frowned upon. Like has been mentioned, those of us who watch a lot of porn/are in the porn industry will have more open minds, but if we're saying it's wrong then think of the other people!!

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

 

[schlmoe]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

To back up your point, Megan.
I will also say that its not just "certain people" who dislike incest.

Its pretty much everyone.
There's a reason you can be banned for doing incest role-plays on most sites.
Not to mention the fact that people in pornography are MUCH more open minded than the general populace.
So if we have a problem with it, you can be damn sure the people walking around outside will have a bigger problem with it.

I don't know if you should cut him some slack or not, but he IS Weirdtimmy, after all :mrgreen:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I'd rather drown, so when my body is found, assuming I'm not eaten by a river monster, I can be identified.

See? How hard was that. I'm sorry if you get so easily offended if two people are comfortable being around each other in the nude and happen to be related. Last I checked, it's not the end of the world...

Like I said in my previous post, I see NOTHING wrong with nudity. I am practically a nudist myself and have no problem walking nude in front of my family. However, there is a BIG difference between being nude around each other and masturbating by each other and rubbing titties on an adult site, when they are close family members. I have every right to see that as "wrong," and like Cammi said, that does not mean I get "easily offended." Judging by the likes I got on my first post, it is not a uncommon thing to be grossed out by.

To back up your point, Megan.
I will also say that its not just "certain people" who dislike incest.

Its pretty much everyone.
There's a reason you can be banned for doing incest role-plays on most sites.
Not to mention the fact that people in pornography are MUCH more open minded than the general populace.
So if we have a problem with it, you can be damn sure the people walking around outside will have a bigger problem with it.

I suspect that a large number of guys, possibly even a majority, are aroused by fantasy involving sisters and especially twins. I can think of at least 3 Playboy videos and dozens of pictorials and Playboy tends to cater to pretty mainstream fetishes. Mother and daughter is a bit more unusual but I don't think it is nearly uncommon as piss or shitting fetishes.
I am not sure that mothers and daughter masturbating together on camera even qualifies as incest, although I understand why people would look at that way. Anyway I have yet to hear of prosecution for public mother daughter shows and given the number out there, if it is truly illegal I'd think we'd hear more about it..

I think it is safe to say everybody has fetish that are into and are turned off by others. Personally, I don't get foot fetish but obviously a lot of guys and gals are turned on by feet :? .

Well hey, if it gets a bunch of dudes dicks hard, it must be okay! :thumbleft: :roll:
It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Incest, to my knowledge, is legal in a few states, Rhode Island and New Jersey I believe, but that's besides the point. Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Incest, to my knowledge, is legal in a few states, Rhode Island and New Jersey I believe, but that's besides the point. Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

I never in my life thought I'd have to defend why this is wrong behavior. Show this clip to any psychologist and they would be mortified. That is not normal behavior, that is not acceptable behavior. End of story.
Maybe bad parenting and psychological problems gets your dick hard, but it doesn't make it right.

 

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[Weirdtimmy]

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Incest, to my knowledge, is legal in a few states, Rhode Island and New Jersey I believe, but that's besides the point. Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

I never in my life thought I'd have to defend why this is wrong behavior. Show this clip to any psychologist and they would be mortified. That is not normal behavior, that is not acceptable behavior. End of story.
Maybe bad parenting and psychological problems gets your dick hard, but it doesn't make it right.

Who said anything about my dick being hard? Why do you need to turn such a topic into a personal attack? Grow up.

 

[SoTxBob]

There's also a very hot looking mom on mfc that has a 19yr old daughter, who is also a camgirl. They have cammed together before as well but not on a regular basis.

I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Tiny bit of a threadjack here....
Megan, Just in the spirit of fyi education, you're still quite young and even tho you have PB history, perhaps you haven't followed the mag itself.
Off the top pf my head, Playboy twins pictorals ...
Shannon twins
Howe twins
Bentley twins
Campbell twins
Barbi twins

.....And I would be remiss if I left out the Dahm triplets and one of the PB vids from the late 90's that was titled 'Twins and Sisters Too'...

That is all... carry on y'all.

 

[JickyJuly]

The parent/child relationship is not built on equal footing. It's way too complex a bond for the child to ever really be able to understand and consent to anything sexual. Without consent, all you have is rape. So, no. It's not okay.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

There's also a very hot looking mom on mfc that has a 19yr old daughter, who is also a camgirl. They have cammed together before as well but not on a regular basis.

I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Tiny bit of a threadjack here....
Megan, Just in the spirit of fyi education, you're still quite young and even tho you have PB history, perhaps you haven't followed the mag itself.
Off the top pf my head, Playboy twins pictorals ...
Shannon twins
Howe twins
Bentley twins
Campbell twins
Barbi twins

.....And I would be remiss if I left out the Dahm triplets and one of the PB vids from the late 90's that was titled 'Twins and Sisters Too'...

That is all... carry on y'all.

I never said there wasn't. I just said that I, personally, have only viewed one. And it didn't include mastubation as the video in this thread did.

 

[16_bit]

Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

While i respect that you said it was your personal view, are you really trying to say gay/lesbian incest is ok but straight incest isn't? Isn't that discrimination and what if the boy/girl involved couldn't get pregnant so there was no risk of a baby? Would it be ok then?
In the video, the mom rubs her breasts on the daughters butt. It's not fondling but that crosses the line past dancing and just being topless.

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

I'd have to agree with you there. I remember browsing mfc one day and coming upon a room, sunrisetwins i believe, and they were rubbing oil on each other. The comments in the room seem to show the people watching were enjoying it but to me, knowing they were related was a turn off and always has been for me. They cam separately now but to some guys, it's like the first setence of the quote below. They like the thought of having a threesome with twins/sisters/mom & daughter. Whether they consider the incest part or they just think the relative is hot too and so they want to sleep with them could be debated and would probably vary.

I suspect that a large number of guys, possibly even a majority, are aroused by fantasy involving sisters and especially twins.I am not sure that mothers and daughter masturbating together on camera even qualifies as incest, although I understand why people would look at that way. Anyway I have yet to hear of prosecution for public mother daughter shows and given the number out there, if it is truly illegal I'd think we'd hear more about it..

Just because we don't hear about things doesn't mean they aren't 'truly' illegal. For how popular some illegal things are in terms of activity, you don't hear much on those issues either. Plus you'd have to get someone to report it, get evidence and then for it to be interesting enough for people to talk about it and hear it.

 

[Rose]

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

That's just offensive. Sure it's stereotyping, but it's still pretty damn offensive. There are babies created from incest in more places than just The South or South America.

 

[Anonymous]

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

Wow.....

 

[DudeExtreme]

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Incest, to my knowledge, is legal in a few states, Rhode Island and New Jersey I believe, but that's besides the point. Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

I never in my life thought I'd have to defend why this is wrong behavior. Show this clip to any psychologist and they would be mortified. That is not normal behavior, that is not acceptable behavior. End of story.
Maybe bad parenting and psychological problems gets your dick hard, but it doesn't make it right.

I'm a guy and I am in total agreement with you, this is wrong, sick, gross behavior. None of the twins or triplets Playboy shoots or videos would show anything this crazy. Any psychologist would be disgusted just thinking about this.

 

[Just Me]

Seems to be a lot more girls saying it's wrong than guys (I wonder if there are ulterior motives?), I don't know, maybe you'd be comfortable getting on cam with your dad, having a wank in front of each other and slapping your dicks together?

No, I wouldn't, but if someone and their dad were on my front lawn having a wank with each other, I'd probably watch just out of curiosity. Personally, my view of incest is boy/girl, I don't care what the "legal" definition is, that's just how I see it. Mother/Daughter isn't going to create a deformed, Southern American baby, so have at it. I don't mind.

It is certainly illegal to have children on cam, but you can see it nearly everyday and although the accounts are suspended, I have never heard of a woman being prosecuted over it. So no, you aren't going to hear much about it.
I've only seen one sister pictorial in Playboy and what I saw was them both naked side to side. It was nothing like the mother daughter video that can be seen here. I still wouldn't pose with my sister naked, but I think it takes it to a whole different level to fondle, or masturbate, in my opinion.

Incest, to my knowledge, is legal in a few states, Rhode Island and New Jersey I believe, but that's besides the point. Perhaps we're watching two different videos, or you're envisioning something completely different than what's actually going on here. I did not once see them fondle each other, nor did I see mutual masturbation in the video. I see two drunk chicks dancing together, topless on cam (Oh the horror!!), and one of the drunk chicks decided to "shoot" a dildo into herself, while the mother seemed utterly disgusted, as if she didn't want her to even be doing it.

I could be wrong. I do have pretty bad vision...

I never in my life thought I'd have to defend why this is wrong behavior. Show this clip to any psychologist and they would be mortified. That is not normal behavior, that is not acceptable behavior. End of story.
Maybe bad parenting and psychological problems gets your dick hard, but it doesn't make it right.

I'm a guy and I am in total agreement with you, this is wrong, sick, gross behavior. None of the twins or triplets Playboy shoots or videos would show anything this crazy. Any psychologist would be disgusted just thinking about this.

If any psychologist was disgusted by thinking about this, they should look for a new profession.

 

[Deleted member 8603]

Wow.....

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I'm a guy and I am in total agreement with you, this is wrong, sick, gross behavior. None of the twins or triplets Playboy shoots or videos would show anything this crazy. Any psychologist would be disgusted just thinking about this.

Well you would be wrong, both of the Playboy videos (Sisters and Twins (and sister too) ), had numerous examples of the sisters caressing each other breasts, butt and in one scene engaged in heavy french kiss while rubbing on each other. Playboy also had a pictorial which featured a mother and two daughters naked in the shower together, IIRC it did NOT include any type of touching between the mother and daughters. The only difference between this video and the Playboy ones is the women were drunk off their asses, and the girl pulls out a dildo and appears to be masturbating on camera although I couldn't tell for sure if she was faking it . Once was enough watching it.

The playmate I was referring to is Victoria Zdork, who was 1994 Playmate and then latter became a Penthouse Pet and Penthouse pet of the year in 2004. Victoria is one of the most educated Playmates having both a JD degree as well as PHd in clinical pyschologist. Rather than being disgusted, this clinical psychologist's website included nude pictures of her mother, and sister, both her and sister used toys although, IIRC they didn't do use them on each other. Her website became pretty famous since her husband sued for part of the revenue from it when they got divorce. So even though it included acts far more scandalous than shown on the video and probably every image every put on the site, eventually ended up in court. No prosecutions were made. Why because it isn't illegal to use toys when mom or your sister are present.

Here is a list of the definitions of incest http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Incest_2010.pdf
Picking out California here is what it says

Cal. Penal Code § 285 (2009). Incest Persons being within the degrees of consanguinity within which marriages are declared by law to be incestuous and void, who intermarry with each other, or who being 14 years of age or older, commit fornication or adultery with each other, are punishable by imprisonment in the state prison.

AFAIK, The legal definition of fornication is 2. (Law) Law voluntary sexual intercourse between two persons of the opposite sex, where one is or both are unmarried.
So pretty much incest is the sadly, not too uncommon, man having sex with his daughter, or the rare case of the mom having sex with her son, or brother and sister ala Game of Thrones.

The girl in the video over 18 and my guess in her early 20 and the same age as most of the models on the site. Whatever damage mom did as a parent is probably been done.

It's cool if this disgusts you and I don't find the video at all appealing. One persons fetish is another's gag me with a pitchfork. However, on website where there numerous threads about how large elements of society finds what camgirls do disgusting and degrading, I find it hypocritical to apply such strong moral judgements to any legal sexual behavior.

 

[DudeExtreme]

I'm a guy and I am in total agreement with you, this is wrong, sick, gross behavior. None of the twins or triplets Playboy shoots or videos would show anything this crazy. Any psychologist would be disgusted just thinking about this.

Well you would be wrong, both of the Playboy videos (Sisters and Twins (and sister too) ), had numerous examples of the sisters caressing each other breasts, butt and in one scene engaged in heavy french kiss while rubbing on each other. Playboy also had a pictorial which featured a mother and two daughters naked in the shower together, IIRC it did NOT include any type of touching between the mother and daughters. The only difference between this video and the Playboy ones is the women were drunk off their asses, and the girl pulls out a dildo and appears to be masturbating on camera although I couldn't tell for sure if she was faking it . Once was enough watching it.

The playmate I was referring to is Victoria Zdork, who was 1994 Playmate and then latter became a Penthouse Pet and Penthouse pet of the year in 2004. Victoria is one of the most educated Playmates having both a JD degree as well as PHd in clinical pyschologist. Rather than being disgusted, this clinical psychologist's website included nude pictures of her mother, and sister, both her and sister used toys although, IIRC they didn't do use them on each other. Her website became pretty famous since her husband sued for part of the revenue from it when they got divorce. So even though it included acts far more scandalous than shown on the video and probably every image every put on the site, eventually ended up in court. No prosecutions were made. Why because it isn't illegal to use toys when mom or your sister are present.

Here is a list of the definitions of incest http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Incest_2010.pdf
Picking out California here is what it says

Cal. Penal Code § 285 (2009). Incest Persons being within the degrees of consanguinity within which marriages are declared by law to be incestuous and void, who intermarry with each other, or who being 14 years of age or older, commit fornication or adultery with each other, are punishable by imprisonment in the state prison.

AFAIK, The legal definition of fornication is 2. (Law) Law voluntary sexual intercourse between two persons of the opposite sex, where one is or both are unmarried.
So pretty much incest is the sadly, not too uncommon, man having sex with his daughter, or the rare case of the mom having sex with her son, or brother and sister ala Game of Thrones.

The girl in the video over 18 and my guess in her early 20 and the same age as most of the models on the site. Whatever damage mom did as a parent is probably been done.

It's cool if this disgusts you and I don't find the video at all appealing. One persons fetish is another's gag me with a pitchfork. However, on website where there numerous threads about how large elements of society finds what camgirls do disgusting and degrading, I find it hypocritical to apply such strong moral judgements to any legal sexual behavior.

Correction, It wasn't JustMe that wrote that, it was me and no I did not see this video that everyone is referring to. From what I read from the posts, it sounded like that this mother was involved in masturbating her daughter which I do find as inappropriate behavior and disgusting. I actually thought that was against the law (even with adults). Since I'm not as educated on incest laws as you are, I made some assumptions. I am still not going to watch a video that I find disturbing. I don't see anything I said hypocritical--it was just my opinion which I believe a lot of folks will agree with me on.

With the twins and triplets pictorials, this was "show and tell" type of stuff which I don't recall the french kissing part. Okay, my memory of those pictorials are as sharp as I thought it was. I could see the other though. Well at least one psychologist that thinks a lot different from me.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

My apologies to justme. I hate the multi quoting system.
Well you should watch things before passing judgement.

 

[DudeExtreme]

My apologies to justme. I hate the multi quoting system.
Well you should watch things before passing judgement.

I disagreed, especially since I thought it was something that was illegal to view in the first place. I do appreciate you clearly up the law portion of it.

 

[southsamurai]

on the psych standpoint... i never finished my degree, but got about 4 years into it. but even after i've made human sexuality a bit of a hobby. Incest is very very common in many cultures, including ours. by ours i refer to the western world, aka america, europe, canada and south america/mexico.

While incest is considered taboo in the cast majority of cultures and can be considered harmful in just about all instances where it occurs, (there are one or two exceptions wherein the coming of age ceremonies include incest of some kind where it is a thing viewed with pride and joy by all parties) that does not mean that it a disgusting thing in and of itself. It is just another of the unusual facets of the human creature. abusive incest is inherently bad in that it involves force and harm.

Does consensual incest cause harm? again, most of the time yes. there are a few very rare exceptions and they seem to be centered on non parental incest. i do not include childhood explorations in this heading. Things done when under 10 or so aren't truly incest, but are mutual exploration of body and sensuality with predominantly safe and nearby partners. Incest for the most part must be viewed in the terms of young adults and adults performing sexual acts. Parental and sibling incest seem to be the ones that raise the most trouble and concerns. In the small handful of adult incest practitioners i've met and spoken to at any length the practice in those boundaries seems to be riddled with serious psychological impact, in my opinion harmful.

In the broader sense of the term wherein less proximate relatives are the partner the impact is significantly less. Aunts and uncles are not a favorable match but it seems to not have the deep seated scars and neuroses associated with it. As near as i can tell cousin level relations are only negative if it is brought to light within the family as a whole. Until the last century and a half or so ( i'm estimating from various sources here, and my memory my be faulty on the time range) intermarriage with not so distant cousins wasn't uncommon. With a cursory search i found no relevant literature on these more distant iterations of incest, so as a guess i would say that it isn't problematic overall.

i'm pretty sure that most therapists would not react with disgust at such events coming to light in a session. they would most likely try to determine what, if any, harm was done to their patient and attempt to resolve it. That is not to say that they might or might not privately feel disgust on a personal level. I'm only saying that from the standpoint of a therapist one would not paint the event with any more emotion than was needed to elicit the patient to unburden themselves.

check out the Kinsey reports for the raw data on incest occurrence here in the states. It's a lot more common than people realize, or maybe than they wish to believe.