Mother and Daughter

[goneforaburton]

IF they are a real mother and daughter and tbh i doubt that they are then going on just that video they have done nothing wrong other than to get drunk and have a laugh n webcam.


Do guys find the idea of sisters or mother and daughters or aunt and neices getting it on together? answer is Hell yeah. Those that dont are few and far between and most of them would be telling a big fat porky. Plenty of women who find that and the idea of incest a turn on aswell.

That video and others like it is already doing the rounds on many a porn forum and other non porn forums. It has been a huge hit with most comments going on the lines of "that is hot" or "wow sexy" or "wish more mums and daughters were like that" ect ect ect.


If the people in question (the relations that is) are over the age of consent and are happy to be having sex with each other than that is their choice. Who are we to judge.

After all there are still many folk at there that think being gay is still wrong, or that woman should still be cooking and cleaning and looking after the kids. Glad we have moved on from those times.

PS. My brother who is gay and owns his own online adult clothing shop, two of his customers are an item, they are madly in love with each other and class themselfs as girlfriend and girlfriend.

They are indentical twins.

Another one of his customers ( a well known uk company who i wont name) also help run one of those male stripping party hardcore type things. The women at those which are mostly female work do's or Hen partys get up to all sort with the strippers including oral, kissing and full on sex. Many of those women are blood relatives such as siters or mums and daughters. Those sisters, aunts, nieces and mums will very often both share the same stripper, ie the mum and daughter both being fucked by the same guy or both taking turns sucking him off, ect.

The stories we get told about these parties are wild and the strippers often claim that the best fun they have and getting paid for it aswell, is with the Mums, sisters, Aunts, neices and Daughters.


It's a crazy world we live in folks and it really does take all sorts.



PSS very sorry for the long post and yes i expect some full on abuse being thrown my way now.

PSSS just to be sure, please note that i am not refering to any kind of underage incest/abuse. I refer only to those over the age of consent and who are mutually doing whatever it is they are doing with each other.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

If the people in question (the relations that is) are over the age of consent and are happy to be having sex with each other than that is their choice. Who are we to judge.

:shock:

After all there are still many folk at there that think being gay is still wrong, or that woman should still be cooking and cleaning and looking after the kids. Glad we have moved on from those times.

PS. My brother who is gay and owns his own online adult clothing shop, two of his customers are an item, they are madly in love with each other and class themselfs as girlfriend and girlfriend.

They are indentical twins.

Another one of his customers ( a well known uk company who i wont name) also help run one of those male stripping party hardcore type things. The women at those which are mostly female work do's or Hen partys get up to all sort with the strippers including oral, kissing and full on sex. Many of those women are blood relatives such as siters or mums and daughters. Those sisters, aunts, nieces and mums will very often both share the same stripper, ie the mum and daughter both being fucked by the same guy or both taking turns sucking him off, ect.

The stories we get told about these parties are wild and the strippers often claim that the best fun they have and getting paid for it aswell, is with the Mums, sisters, Aunts, neices and Daughters.


It's a crazy world we live in folks and it really does take all sorts.

Apparently it's a crazy world you live in......

I do not live in this world where incest is all around me and mums and daughters and sisters all happily masturbate together and fuck the same guys and are all completely happy about it, and so are everyone else around them!

PSSS just to be sure, please note that i am not refering to any kind of underage incest/abuse. I refer only to those over the age of consent and who are mutually doing whatever it is they are doing with each other.

Yeah god forbid you'd be ok with underage incest, but you know, as soon as we're all 18, sure we can fuck each other to our hearts content!

Are people actually saying these words?!!! Arrrhhhhh!!!!! What the hell?!!! Is there no one else who's head is currently exploding?!

And umm... Like Megan said, if a load of random internet dudes who like watching that kind of porn say it's hot/get hard on porn forums, then yeahh.... that means everyone is going to agree and it's totally ok!

You guys may just see "two drunk chicks having a good time" but those "drunk chicks" are in fact mother and daughter. I know the porn industry has made people start acting ok with this kind of behaviour with all they're "mother daughter" videos, but it's not ok. Again, like Megan said, I'm amazed we're even having to explain this!
WTF dudes?!
If I started getting it on with my mother in a bar I do NOT think many guys there would find that hot. They would think it's weird. They might watch, the same way you watch a car crash. These guys might watch a mother daughter video and find it hot because they're not really thinking it through.
As for lots of girls having incest fantasies, sorry, I don't get turned on by my mother, brother or father, do you???!

 

[goneforaburton]

It's not ok to you, fine but to others it is ok and there is no harm.


Once again as long as the people in question are happy and it's consentual then to be honest so what and zero harm is being done.


The 2 twins i mentioned above love each other. Many say it's wrong, it's sick ect. Many dont care and are fine with them.

Should they split up and be unhappy just because others think they should and society tells then they should.


Sorry but for me i see no harm and happiness is the most important thing. If they are happy then good for them.



Oh btw "You guys may just see "two drunk chicks having a good time" but those "drunk chicks" are in fact mother and daughter."


On the forums i have seen this video and others like it posted there as been plenty and i do mean plenty of comments from girls saying how hot it is. Dont just asume that it is only men who find that kind of video a turn on.


"As for lots of girls having incest fantasies, sorry, I don't get turned on by my mother, brother or father, do you???!" No i dont, but i have never seen your mother or brother.


(Sorry could not resist that joke) There is no one in my very male dominated family that turns me on, no there is not. But that is not really the point. I just dont judge as harshly as others.


Sorry i cant do the fancy quote thingy you did.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Please tell me this guy's a troll? :?

 

[Anonymous]

Please tell me this guy's a troll? :?

Who? Lol. Goneforaburton?

To tell you the truth, I bypassed a few of the posts in this thread, because sometimes I don't feel like reading through posts where a person needs to use 10,000 words just to basically say "I totally agree." LOL.

I'll come back later. I need to go buy some more bacon.

 

[NoelleBright]

Wow. Defending the morality of incest just because it gets your dick hard.

 

[goneforaburton]

Please tell me this guy's a troll? :?

So someone posts something you dont agree with and that makes them a troll. Wow talk about clueless and ignorent.

You disagree with me, i disagree with you. It is as simple as that (or perhaps it is you that is simple if you need to insult someone for having a differant opinion than yourself)


Get over yourself ffs!!!!!

 

[goneforaburton]

Wow. Defending the morality of incest just because it gets your dick hard.

See you failed to understand my post. Im not defending incest because it turns me on. Im defending peoples right to be in a consentual relationship if it MAKES THEM HAPPY.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

Please tell me this guy's a troll? :?

So someone posts something you dont agree with and that makes them a troll. Wow talk about clueless and ignorent.

You disagree with me, i disagree with you. It is as simple as that (or perhaps it is you that is simple if you need to insult someone for having a differant opinion than yourself)


Get over yourself ffs!!!!!

Yeah, but she got like 10 likes on one of her posts... She's obviously the God of ACF... :whistle:

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Should they split up and be unhappy just because others think they should and society tells then they should.

I think the answer you're looking for in this case is yes!

I also really hope this guy is a troll and is joking.

You should also be very careful of what you say on the internet. Not that I think the "consensual happy incestuous relationships" you are talking about are remotely ok, but as soon as you start thinking about those relationships being ok then some people will start thinking it's ok to try it on with their children, or maybe think they're children are flirting with them.
Are you saying it's ok for a father to wank over his son/daughter? It's not technically hurting anyone, the child doesn't know about it, is it ok that he looks down his 18+ daughters top because she's now legally of age? And how would this relationship come about? Someone must have at one point made a move, and I bet more often than not when this happens the one being hit on by their relation is completely shocked and not consenting. Whether or not the parent/sibling continues the damage will have been done.

The are only a few people in our lives who are meant to NEVER see us as sex objects, and that is our close family.

You know most pedophiles defence is that "the child was leading them on", in their heads they think the child is consenting, same with incestuous relationships, whether or not the "child" is of legal or consenting age.

I'd serious suggest you stop spouting this bullshit over the internet. Just because you and apparently your friends and these "women" on the internet posting about how hot mother and daughter stuff have some seriously messed up morals does not mean it's ok, and as soon as people start saying stuff like you're saying there'll be someone else who'll start changing their opinion which'll lead to yet another messed up person when they act on it and fuck up their childs life.

(Sorry Fox, I'm one of the 10,000 words people!)

 

[southsamurai]

ya know, the whole reason incest is a bad thing has more to do with genetics than morality. that and the potential for psychological harm if not handled very very carefully. same sex incest? no chance of kids, so if the relationship is otherwise healthy why not? its not my cup of tea, but who is harmed by it?

 

[goneforaburton]

Please tell me this guy's a troll? :?

So someone posts something you dont agree with and that makes them a troll. Wow talk about clueless and ignorent.

You disagree with me, i disagree with you. It is as simple as that (or perhaps it is you that is simple if you need to insult someone for having a differant opinion than yourself)


Get over yourself ffs!!!!!

Yeah, but she got like 10 likes on one of her posts... She's obviously the God of ACF... :whistle:

LOL. I have no issue if she wants to tell me why my post is wrong. But to simply call me a troll just because i see things differant to her is just silly.


The "thanks" thing on this thread has made me chuckle though as certain members have given thanks to 1 post and then to another post that has the complete oppersite opinion of the post they orginally gave the thanks to. (if that makes sense)

 

[goneforaburton]

Isabella_de you have mentioned kids not me. I am not talking about that at all so please dont go down that route with me. Try your luck elsewhere.


As for yet another troll comment. Please grow up.



The two sisters i mentioned (the twins) are both in thier early 30's and have been together in a CONSENTUAL relationship now for about 10 years or so.


They love each other, they are happy, they are two great people who are both warm, caring, sweet and everything else i wish more people were like.

It is them that i thought off when i saw this thread and it is them which is why i decided to reply and give my opinion. Again disagree with me all you want, that is fine. Call me a c u next tuesday if you want. But Troll? really just because i dont agree with you. Poor effort.


PS trolls tend to post shed loads on many differant threads. They do so to wind up people to seek a certain reaction. Trolls dont tend to join forums and then wait over three months to start trolling.


I joined on july 19th. Be a bit of a poor troll if i had to wait this long to start trolling.

No sorry i just have a differant slant on things than you. If that offends, oh well.

 

[NoelleBright]

ya know, the whole reason incest is a bad thing has more to do with genetics than morality. that and the potential for psychological harm if not handled very very carefully. same sex incest? no chance of kids, so if the relationship is otherwise healthy why not? its not my cup of tea, but who is harmed by it?

If not handled very very carefully!? 100% of the time there's some sort of underlying psychological issue. You just don't fall in romantic sexual love with your siblings/parents like it's no big deal.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Personally, I think if the idea of direct blood relatives that grew up together/raised together, (parent/child, brother/sister) does not turn your stomach, or even worse turns you on then something is seriously wrong with you psychologically. Something that goes far beyond sexual preferences.
We are wired to NOT be sexually attracted to family members, so much so that it's a sickening thought for most people. We have no control over this response in general, it is a natural defense mechanism. If you are ok with incest or incest play then you are not wired correctly IMO.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Isabella_de you have mentioned kids not me. I am not talking about that at all so please dont go down that route with me. Try your luck elsewhere.

As for yet another troll comment. Please grow up.

They are always called children to the parents. I'm sorry but whether or not someone has turned 18 and is now consensual it is still absolutely not ok to start thinking of your child/parent in a sexual manner. I'm 21 but I am still my mother's child. The pedophile stuff is just an example, but let's face it, it does go hand in hand.

Does seem a bit strange that someone would actually want to date someone who looks identical to them, I mean they must love how they look in the mirror! But hey, every guy's fantasy right?

There are cases you hear of where two people meet and fall in love and go out, and then later find out it's their father/daughter/mother/son/half brother or sister. Jesus, almost everyone who would find that out would be disgusted, and they haven't even grown up together!
For me more of it being wrong is the phycological part than the genetics (although that part is gross too), if I grew up with someone who wasn't related to me, a step brother/sister/step father I wouldn't suddenly want to fuck them when I grew older and I'd seriously hope they wouldn't want to fuck me either. The "their children might turn out badly" thing isn't so much of a big deal for me because with birth control how it is, it's not really as much of an issue (unless they did actually have a child).

I would love you to be a troll, because I don't want to believe that there are people around who feel this way, who encourage it to be an ok thing and act like anyone who disagrees is just small minded and nasty, I'd love it if you were simply making this stuff up, so yeah, maybe I do need to grow up. And I think you need to keep your opinions to yourself. Like I said, the wrong person could read it and get the wrong idea. You have no idea what kind of damage you might do by spouting all this stuff out.

 

[goneforaburton]

Personally, I think if the idea of direct blood relatives that grew up together/raised together, (parent/child, brother/sister) does not turn your stomach, or even worse turns you on then something is seriously wrong with you psychologically. Something that goes far beyond sexual preferences.
We are wired to NOT be sexually attracted to family members, so much so that it's a sickening thought for most people. We have no control over this response in general, it is a natural defense mechanism. If you are ok with incest or incest play then you are not wired correctly IMO.

Yeah thinking about it you are right. I shall never talk to those 2 sisters again and i hope everyone in thier life shuns them. In fact it might be best if they are treated like sick animals and put to sleep.


As i mentioned earlier, my brother is gay and even today in 2012 he still gets plenty of stick and insults because people find that weird and wrong and sick. Think i will shun him aswell and he could also be put to sleep.

 

[NoelleBright]

Personally, I think if the idea of direct blood relatives that grew up together/raised together, (parent/child, brother/sister) does not turn your stomach, or even worse turns you on then something is seriously wrong with you psychologically. Something that goes far beyond sexual preferences.
We are wired to NOT be sexually attracted to family members, so much so that it's a sickening thought for most people. We have no control over this response in general, it is a natural defense mechanism. If you are ok with incest or incest play then you are not wired correctly IMO.

Yeah thinking about it you are right. I shall never talk to those 2 sisters again and i hope everyone in thier life shuns them. In fact it might be best if they are treated like sick animals and put to sleep.


As i mentioned earlier, my brother is gay and even today in 2012 he still gets plenty of stick and insults because people find that weird and wrong and sick. Think i will shun him aswell and he could also be put to sleep.

Being an alarmist is doing you no favors.
Clam down and stop drawing such extreme conclusions.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

As i mentioned earlier, my brother is gay and even today in 2012 he still gets plenty of stick and insults because people find that weird and wrong and sick. Think i will shun him aswell and he could also be put to sleep.

Please do not put being gay anywhere near being incestuous. It is NOT the same or even close.

Gay people are simply attracted to someone of their own sex, they are wired slightly differently, when they reach puberty instead of fancying someone of the opposite sex, they like the same sex, that's more about personal preferences and it is ok.

Like Jolene said, we are wired to find this stuff (incest) repulsive, which is to do with genetics. You're also acting like these twins are your best friends, yet in your earlier post it sounded like they just go into your brothers shop.

I don't even see how you can possibly put being gay in the same category as incest.

 

[goneforaburton]

"And I think you need to keep your opinions to yourself. Like I said, the wrong person could read it and get the wrong idea. You have no idea what kind of damage you might do by spouting all this stuff out."


This is an internet forum, a forum is a place where people talk about stuff and discuss certain subjects related to the forum. I am doing just that so no i wont keep my opinions to myself if you dont mind. If you dont like what i am saying them simply ignore me or place me on ignore.


My posts are just an opinion, an opinion largely formed on two sisters i know who happen to be in a sexual relationship with each other. They will cause ZERO harm to anybody.

If you are that stupid that you think someone could stumble across this thread and read what i and others have said and think "ooohhh good points there. Hay mum fancy a fuck tonight" then i am afraid that is your look out.

 

[NoelleBright]

Yeah thinking about it you are right. I shall never talk to those 2 sisters again and i hope everyone in thier life shuns them. In fact it might be best if they are treated like sick animals and put to sleep.

No one EVER said that involvement in an incestuous relationship should keep someone from being treated like a normal human being.
These sisters SHOULD be loved and supported and urged to get the psychological help that they need.

 

[goneforaburton]

As i mentioned earlier, my brother is gay and even today in 2012 he still gets plenty of stick and insults because people find that weird and wrong and sick. Think i will shun him aswell and he could also be put to sleep.

Please do not put being gay anywhere near being incestuous. It is NOT the same or even close.

Gay people are simply attracted to someone of their own sex, they are wired slightly differently, when they reach puberty instead of fancying someone of the opposite sex, they like the same sex, that's more about personal preferences and it is ok.

Like Jolene said, we are wired to find this stuff (incest) repulsive, which is to do with genetics. You're also acting like these twins are your best friends, yet in your earlier post it sounded like they just go into your brothers shop.

I don't even see how you can possibly put being gay in the same category as incest.

If you cant see the point then again your problem and not mine.


The twins are not my best friends but i have met them plenty of times. My brother however is very good friends with them.


"These sisters SHOULD be loved and supported and urged to get the psychological help that they need."

Why? they are loved by thier family. They are accepted by thier family. They are happy, they are loving, they are caring, they are warm ,they are generous. They are not damaged (apart from in the mind of other peoples narrowminded opinions). THEY ARE HAPPY!!!!!!!!


Anyways getting all silly now and i have gave my opinions. If you want to call me a troll or saying im this that and the other than knock yourselfs out. I dont really wish to argue anymore.


My original point of if people are happy then good for them because happiness is such a wonderful thing still stands.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

What they really need to do is ban breast feeding. I think it's just a sick ploy by mothers to get the enjoyment of their nipples being sucked, without it being child abuse! Especially the ones who do it with their 3-6 year old children... That's basically rape!

Yeah, this thread should be locked. Too much bullshit

 

[IsabellaSnow]

If you are that stupid that you think someone could stumble across this thread and read what i and others have said and think "ooohhh good points there. Hay mum fancy a fuck tonight" then i am afraid that is your look out.

It'd you who's that stupid if you think there aren't men/women lurking around the internet who might find the idea of incestuous relationships attractive but will never act on them because they know they're morally wrong and socially not acceptable, but after reading posts like yours which send a clear message "if it'll make you happy then do it! who is anyone else to judge?" they might just start thinking maybe it is ok to have these thoughts. It does happen. A bit of time back I unfortunately stumbled across a forum on motherless (was there because people said they stole camgirls vids) that was basically guys convincing each other it's ok to try it on with their daughters, and wishing each other luck etc.

You're saying this because you vaguely know two girls who are twins who are together that incest is ok if it's consenting. They will have issues, whatever they are who knows, and also seeing as you're not close to them you do not know how happy they actually are or what has driven them to being together. Fact is, incest causes a LOT of phycological damage. Extreme case but I happened to be reading up about Fred and Rose West a few days ago, both started through incest being acceptable in their families and they both turned into serial killers/used to torture and rape their own children and random girls. Like I said, very extreme case, most will just be damaged. But you really do never know who might read stuff we write on a public forum. Yeah you feel your friends aren't harming anyone so you're showing your support and saying it's ok, but saying that's ok is saying a whole bunch of other stuff is ok too.

And Timmy don't be weird. Although breast feeding older children is pretty weird... breast feeding itself is a normal natural thing. Incest is not.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

that and the potential for psychological harm if not handled very very carefully.

That is the problem. A father fucking his 18year old daughter, is most likely going to cause some damage. The video that started this thread? There is damage there. You don't have to be a professional to see that.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, but she got like 10 likes on one of her posts... She's obviously the God of ACF... :whistle:

LOL. I have no issue if she wants to tell me why my post is wrong. But to simply call me a troll just because i see things differant to her is just silly.


The "thanks" thing on this thread has made me chuckle though as certain members have given thanks to 1 post and then to another post that has the complete oppersite opinion of the post they orginally gave the thanks to. (if that makes sense)

If you two are gonna cry over people thanking other posts, I should explain something...

Thanking a post DOES NOT mean that you agree with EVERYTHING that was said in the post. Somewhere on this forum there's even a thread on this topic of 'thanking posts', and the thread was created by LadyLuna. And, by the way, I thank a lot of LadyLuna's posts too.

I may thank a post because I agree with A PORTION of what the poster said (or I agree with ALL of what they said), or the poster made a reference to me (complimenting me on a pic, for example) in part of their post, or the poster said something that made me laugh.

In one of the political threads on here, someone who disagreed with a certain poster thanked his post anyway, because he said it gave him a good laugh to read such nonsense...lol.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

And Timmy don't be weird. Although breast feeding older children is pretty weird... breast feeding itself is a normal natural thing. Incest is not.

Was more of a "No matter what I say, it's going to be taken offensively at this point" kind of post. Seems as everyone is taking this beyond personally and acting like we're suggesting that you, yourself, should start fucking your relatives on cam, which is not the case. Hence why it should be locked. Nothing productive is being said by either side.

Maybe it's unnatural to find family members attractive. So what? I find one of my cousins extremely attractive, does this make me some kind of sick, twisted human being? Granted I'd never touch her or attempt in anyway, shape or form to be romantic with her, but the fact remains I do find her exceedingly beautiful. Should I not? What if I grew up never knowing she was my first cousin and we did fall in love? Would it be morally wrong then? Would my non-intentional incestuous nature be a slap in the face of humanity? Should my subconscious have picked up on her being my cousin in the first place seeing as my brain is apparently wired to know that it's wrong?

Rhetorical questions, unless one of you has a masters in law and psychology.

 

[Anonymous]

What they really need to do is ban breast feeding. I think it's just a sick ploy by mothers to get the enjoyment of their nipples being sucked, without it being child abuse!

Yeah, this thread should be locked. Too much bullshit

Yeah, this thread probably will end up locked, but you're the one who comes on this forum posting oddball shit. And now you're badmouthing women who breastfeed, and you're trying to turn it into something sexual???

EAT A DICK.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

In England marrying your first cousin is not illegal, although many think it is and it's extremely frowned upon. Finding a cousin attractive isn't socially acceptable, it's definitely weird and many would shun you, but it is not incest. We're talking about very close relations, cousins aren't actually that close dna-wise, plus most don't tend to grow up living with a cousin, I see my cousins like every few years, they're relatives and I think I fancied one of the older ones for about a week when I was about 11 and when my breasts grew one a year younger than me kept calling me "booby lady" although I locked him in the bathroom and thought he was weird, it was NOT the same as if my brother started behaving that way. Oh and when I have admitted that I once as a kid thought my older cousin was attractive, more as a joke I still get the weirdest looks from saying it, that is how built in it is that incest is wrong.

Anyway, I think we're all bashing our heads against the walls and losing our faith in humanity, or men at least!! (P.s. those white knights out there, this is a moment where I would very much appreciate you coming in and saying "yes in fact, I do find the thought of incest disgusting and it is wrong")

 

[NoelleBright]

I feel like part of the problem here is the huge level of disconnect.
Getting your rocks off to the thought of 2 sisters getting it on together is NOT the same as this these situations play out in real life.

Somehow I doubt if one of your brothers and your father came out as being madly in love and banging each other every night you would be nearly as supportive. You would NOPE out of there so fast that your head would spin.
I REALLY HIGHLY doubt your first reaction would be "Hooray! Congratulations! As long as you both are happy that's what matters! Good luck in all your future endeavors and may your relationship be long and fulfilling!"

No. You would be traumatized and most likely spend countless hours replaying your childhood in your head trying to pinpoint the moment where things went wrong.