Members guilt-tripping models about breast implants

[Trav]

Now see, this is sort of what I was talking about in an earlier post when I said guys react this way because many believe women are getting boob jobs to become more sexually attractive to men.

This was something I actually witnessed while lurking in an mfc room. The model was talking about getting a boob job, the members were universally reacting negatively, and the model said(not a direct quote, but close) "you guys say that now, but I know guys like big boobs."

This is a misconception that women seem to have about men. If you took a poll of men, I would be willing to bet my soul that the order of preference consensus would be something like Natural C-D cups - Natural smaller than C cups - Natural larger than D cup - Fake of any size.

Generally, in my experience as a man, and knowing men, men do not like fake boobs over natural boobs. Period. And like crappuccino said, this is what guys say. We're not lying. Yet for some reason women seem to think the opposite and I am honestly confused as to why.

I don't think it is a clear cut as this. But there is a large group of guys who do feel exactly the way you do and these guys aren't lying. Personally, I have seen example of models started of as A cups, who were enhanced to a B/C who's appearance improved IMO. So I personally would say I rather see very good implants than a girl with small boobs. Plus if we are being honest sometimes the boob jobs are good enough that we aren't sure or if they are real or fake. Still woman shouldn't think men are stupid about these things. Playboy had done a zillion real or fake quizzes over the years and lots of guys score 70%+. Also while no girl thinks her surgeon is going give her a bad boob job,they happen a lot, and everybody hates them.

So most of the time when guys tell girls don't get a boob job. It isn't because we think you are stupid girls who are doing this on a whim. They cost a lot of money and are painful and we assume you know all of that. It is the assumption that bigger boobs will make you more desirable. Sure we may mention all of the issues involved with plastic surgery, and this is stupid on our part, but we become frustrated. Girls think guys think bigger is better when it comes to boobs, it isn't that simple.

I thanked the part where you said some girls appearances have improved.
...and the narcissism continues...
The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

You're right, many do it for themselves, but many do it to become more sexually desirable to men. It's not laughable to think that's a potential reason for doing it.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Now see, this is sort of what I was talking about in an earlier post when I said guys react this way because many believe women are getting boob jobs to become more sexually attractive to men.

This was something I actually witnessed while lurking in an mfc room. The model was talking about getting a boob job, the members were universally reacting negatively, and the model said(not a direct quote, but close) "you guys say that now, but I know guys like big boobs."

This is a misconception that women seem to have about men. If you took a poll of men, I would be willing to bet my soul that the order of preference consensus would be something like Natural C-D cups - Natural smaller than C cups - Natural larger than D cup - Fake of any size.

Generally, in my experience as a man, and knowing men, men do not like fake boobs over natural boobs. Period. And like crappuccino said, this is what guys say. We're not lying. Yet for some reason women seem to think the opposite and I am honestly confused as to why.

I don't think it is a clear cut as this. But there is a large group of guys who do feel exactly the way you do and these guys aren't lying. Personally, I have seen example of models started of as A cups, who were enhanced to a B/C who's appearance improved IMO. So I personally would say I rather see very good implants than a girl with small boobs. Plus if we are being honest sometimes the boob jobs are good enough that we aren't sure or if they are real or fake. Still woman shouldn't think men are stupid about these things. Playboy had done a zillion real or fake quizzes over the years and lots of guys score 70%+. Also while no girl thinks her surgeon is going give her a bad boob job,they happen a lot, and everybody hates them.

So most of the time when guys tell girls don't get a boob job. It isn't because we think you are stupid girls who are doing this on a whim. They cost a lot of money and are painful and we assume you know all of that. It is the assumption that bigger boobs will make you more desirable. Sure we may mention all of the issues involved with plastic surgery, and this is stupid on our part, but we become frustrated. Girls think guys think bigger is better when it comes to boobs, it isn't that simple.

I thanked the part where you said some girls appearances have improved.
...and the narcissism continues...
The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

You're right, many do it for themselves, but many do it to become more sexually desirable to men. It's not laughable to think that's a potential reason for doing it.

Exactly why I said "SOME."
It's laughable to imply that's the only reason. When I get a tattoo I don't think, "I wonder if guys will think this is sexy." Out of the many women I've met who have got plastic surgery, very few did it out of a career move or for a guy. Most think, "I don't like this about myself, and I'm going to change it for ME"

 

[Trav]

Now see, this is sort of what I was talking about in an earlier post when I said guys react this way because many believe women are getting boob jobs to become more sexually attractive to men.

This was something I actually witnessed while lurking in an mfc room. The model was talking about getting a boob job, the members were universally reacting negatively, and the model said(not a direct quote, but close) "you guys say that now, but I know guys like big boobs."

This is a misconception that women seem to have about men. If you took a poll of men, I would be willing to bet my soul that the order of preference consensus would be something like Natural C-D cups - Natural smaller than C cups - Natural larger than D cup - Fake of any size.

Generally, in my experience as a man, and knowing men, men do not like fake boobs over natural boobs. Period. And like crappuccino said, this is what guys say. We're not lying. Yet for some reason women seem to think the opposite and I am honestly confused as to why.

I don't think it is a clear cut as this. But there is a large group of guys who do feel exactly the way you do and these guys aren't lying. Personally, I have seen example of models started of as A cups, who were enhanced to a B/C who's appearance improved IMO. So I personally would say I rather see very good implants than a girl with small boobs. Plus if we are being honest sometimes the boob jobs are good enough that we aren't sure or if they are real or fake. Still woman shouldn't think men are stupid about these things. Playboy had done a zillion real or fake quizzes over the years and lots of guys score 70%+. Also while no girl thinks her surgeon is going give her a bad boob job,they happen a lot, and everybody hates them.

So most of the time when guys tell girls don't get a boob job. It isn't because we think you are stupid girls who are doing this on a whim. They cost a lot of money and are painful and we assume you know all of that. It is the assumption that bigger boobs will make you more desirable. Sure we may mention all of the issues involved with plastic surgery, and this is stupid on our part, but we become frustrated. Girls think guys think bigger is better when it comes to boobs, it isn't that simple.

I thanked the part where you said some girls appearances have improved.
...and the narcissism continues...
The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

You're right, many do it for themselves, but many do it to become more sexually desirable to men. It's not laughable to think that's a potential reason for doing it.

Exactly why I said "SOME."
It's laughable to imply that's the only reason. When I get a tattoo I don't think, "I wonder if guys will think this is sexy." Out of the many women I've met who have got plastic surgery, very few did it out of a career move or for a guy. Most think, "I don't like this about myself, and I'm going to change it for ME"

I think you'd have to be an idiot to think that was the only reason.... so I'm sure plenty of people do :lol:

 

[Shaun__]

You're right, many do it for themselves, but many do it to become more sexually desirable to men. It's not laughable to think that's a potential reason for doing it.

I did an informal poll once when I was trying to gain a better understanding of why people want augmentation in the ask a model section. It seemed to me that the women who participated seemed to mostly want them for themselves, especially as I read what some of the models wrote.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I thanked the part where you said some girls appearances have improved.
...and the narcissism continues...
The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

I am sure that is important factor for many/maybe even most implants is woman get them because you like way they make you look.

Still I think there are lots of adult models who's thinking is like Trav said

This was something I actually witnessed while lurking in an mfc room. The model was talking about getting a boob job, the members were universally reacting negatively, and the model said(not a direct quote, but close) "you guys say that now, but I know guys like big boob

I've certainly seen this on the Playboy forum, "Playboy only lets two girls with small boobs be Playmate a year, I can't get work in the modeling business without big boobs." and I bet the same thinking goes on in MFC. Anyway we agree it isn't just to please men and woman have different motivations.

 

[Trav]

You're right, many do it for themselves, but many do it to become more sexually desirable to men. It's not laughable to think that's a potential reason for doing it.

I did an informal poll once when I was trying to gain a better understanding of why people want augmentation in the ask a model section. It seemed to me that the women who participated seemed to mostly want them for themselves, especially as I read what some of the models wrote.

I'd have to see what was written to really get anything that applies to this discussion from that poll. :confusion-shrug:

 

[Wabi_Sabi]

I'm a fan of Professor Marc Breedlove:

"I think asking people why they do things is a lousy way of finding out why, even if they are being completely honest. I think that psychological research makes it clear that people often aren't aware of the influences on their behaviour."

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I think you'd have to be an idiot to think that was the only reason.... so I'm sure plenty of people do :lol:[/quote]


Ha! I've been camming for too long. Dealing with idiots daily, I'm positive that is true. By a guy criticising a woman about HER body mods, he is essentially implying that his opinion matters and that she is doing it to please him.


Quote fail....

 

[Shaun__]

I'd have to see what was written to really get anything that applies to this discussion from that poll. :confusion-shrug:

You are welcome to go read it, but you said that many women are doing it for men. I am saying they seemed to be doing it for themselves.

 

[Trav]

I'd have to see what was written to really get anything that applies to this discussion from that poll. :confusion-shrug:

You are welcome to go read it, but you said that many women are doing it for men. I am saying they seemed to be doing it for themselves.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Many do it for men, many do it for themselves.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

This has been mentioned once or twice before in this thread, but by and large, it is being totally ignored in the barrage of auto-rage that's so common here:

These conversations take place in internet chat rooms. If a topic is brought up, pretty much by anyone, but especially by the model, people are going to comment on it. If you're going to be insulted that someone commented on something, for fuck's sake don't bring it up because you know what's going to happen if you do. This is true on virtually any topic: favorite food, a certain video game, a type of music, politics, nose hair, anything. For sure it's going to happen on a topic like altering breasts when breasts are such a focus on cam sites to begin with. The guys aren't necessarily assuming anything about your intellect or lack thereof. They're just chatting in a chat room like they always do, and you've given them a topic they're excited to talk about and may have strong opinions on.

Yes, some people are insensitive, go too far in their comments, or won't let go of an argument when asked to stop, but it is a fact that people, even nice reasonable people, customarily do comment on topics raised in chat rooms. If you announce to your room that you're getting your breasts done, people will respond. If you don't want to hear it, don't mention it. If you must mention it and really don't want responses, at least preface it with something like "I've done my homework on this, and I've made my decision. I would appreciate it if you'd keep your thoughts on this to yourself." Someone may still say something, but that's about the only way I can think of to bring up the topic and not get much feedback if you don't want it.

I completely get what youre talking about. But we're not just talking about someone 'expressing their opinion'. We're talking about barraging the model with comments, some very negative and abusive...when she has already expressed that she is not interested in discussing further.

Also I know it's easy for it to seem like we're just flying into auto rage. You have to understand that while some subjects on here may seem exciting, interesting, new and cool for you guys to talk about...as models we hear a lot of these topics almost every day. And not just once or twice. Like...pretty much constantly. Over and over again. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over till we feel ready to explode in frustration.

And then they are brought up on here. And I think most models tend to reply fairly evenly and calmly at first. But then some people argue that we're wrong. That we should be willing to bend our ideals and ethics for those who want us to. And then they argue again. And over again. and over again. And over again. And over again.....

And we rage.

It's a bit like being back at work and being in free chat. With no chance of being paid. So we rage.

I don't think any of us want to make you feel like we're constantly jumping down members throats.

Thank you for the rageless response. Seriously.

I suppose I'm getting into a sort of meta-discussion, but I think part of the problem here is that with quite a few people taking part in the conversation, not everyone is talking about quite the same things. That's fairly normal in a busy forum, but it can result in it seeming like someone is willfully misconstruing one's points, when really they're responding to some other part of the thread entirely.

Some people are, as you say, expressing their frustration with models being piled on with lots of comments, many negative and abusive, after having already stated they didn't want to discuss it further. As I think I've already said, doing this to someone is obnoxious. I certainly understand why that makes people angry.

On the other hand though, I believe some people have suggested that it's out of line to say anything at all, even before the model has said anything about not wanting to discuss it further. I don't agree with this. I understand the point that if each chatting member in a room says just one thing, it can add up to a lot of comments, but we're individual people. We don't think like a mob, even if it might feel like that from the other side of the cam sometimes. As regulars in a room, we often come to think of the model as a friend. That tends to be encouraged and is probably good for the model on the whole (sure, occasionally someone will overdo it, but that's not every guy). When someone I feel friendly toward tells me something significant about their life, I'm going to respond. Usually, I'd think it would be expected. If they go on to say they just wanted me to be aware but really don't want to discuss it, I'll respect that, but up until that point, I'm going to think the subject is on the table for conversation.

Trolls aside, most of the guys who say something are not trying to overwhelm you and are not trying to be mean. And people can tell you something you already know without implying that you're stupid. They do it all the time just because they say what seems significant to them. We're not privy to model-only conversations. I do get it that individual comments from many people can add up to more than you want to hear. I think though, that this is just one of the tough parts of being a cam model. It's putting yourself out there in public, and each member of the public has something they want to say. Yes, I know I just said something all cam models know, and no I didn't say it to imply you're stupid.

Hmm, maybe we've reached the point, where someone should say, "I've made my decision, and I don't want to discuss this thread anymore."

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I'd have to see what was written to really get anything that applies to this discussion from that poll. :confusion-shrug:

You are welcome to go read it, but you said that many women are doing it for men. I am saying they seemed to be doing it for themselves.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Many do it for men, many do it for themselves.

When I said I was going to get a boob job, I got 1000 guys telling me not to. If I wanted to do something for men, I would stay natural. If I wanted to do something for myself, I would get a boob job. I have yet to meet a model who announces a cosmetic surgery that hasn't got negative feedback. So if she was really doing it for guys, she wouldn't do it at all.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

When I said I was going to get a boob job, I got 1000 guys telling me not to. If I wanted to do something for men, I would stay natural. If I wanted to do something for myself, I would get a boob job. I have yet to meet a model who announces a cosmetic surgery that hasn't got negative feedback. So if she was really doing it for guys, she wouldn't do it at all.

I do believe there have been a few models who didn't announce it until the day before their surgery because they knew so many people would try and talk them down and didn't want to deal with it.

 

[Shaun__]

When I said I was going to get a boob job, I got 1000 guys telling me not to. If I wanted to do something for men, I would stay natural. If I wanted to do something for myself, I would get a boob job. I have yet to meet a model who announces a cosmetic surgery that hasn't got negative feedback. So if she was really doing it for guys, she wouldn't do it at all.

I do believe there have been a few models who didn't announce it until the day before their surgery because they knew so many people would try and talk them down and didn't want to deal with it.

That must have been so stressful for them.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

When I said I was going to get a boob job, I got 1000 guys telling me not to. If I wanted to do something for men, I would stay natural. If I wanted to do something for myself, I would get a boob job. I have yet to meet a model who announces a cosmetic surgery that hasn't got negative feedback. So if she was really doing it for guys, she wouldn't do it at all.

I do believe there have been a few models who didn't announce it until the day before their surgery because they knew so many people would try and talk them down and didn't want to deal with it.

Of course! We are not allowed to change at all. No tattoos, changing hair colors, or cosmetic surgery because they don't like it. Hell, most of us cant even post about working out without negative feedback. It's all about them and what they like, and it's apparent we care so greatly about their highly important opinion. *sarcasm*

 

[Trav]

I'd have to see what was written to really get anything that applies to this discussion from that poll. :confusion-shrug:

You are welcome to go read it, but you said that many women are doing it for men. I am saying they seemed to be doing it for themselves.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Many do it for men, many do it for themselves.

When I said I was going to get a boob job, I got 1000 guys telling me not to. If I wanted to do something for men, I would stay natural. If I wanted to do something for myself, I would get a boob job. I have yet to meet a model who announces a cosmetic surgery that hasn't got negative feedback. So if she was really doing it for guys, she wouldn't do it at all.

Yet I have heard the words "you say you don't like boob jobs, but I know guys like big boobs" come from a models mouth, and similar words from other places. While that may not imply that's the sole reason for getting one, it does imply an assumption that men will view large breasts as more desirable than small ones regardless of realism, despite negative feedback. So I don't know where the disconnect is, but the negative feedback is clearly not assumed to represent reality or majority opinion by some women.

 

[LadyLuna]

If you know the model fairly well, and she says she wants to get surgery or a tattoo, there are only two appropriate responses that aren't "good luck" or "can't wait to see it!". 1. How long have you been thinking of this? or 2. What brought this on? (or Why do you want them?) Either one of those will tell you if this is a well-thought-out decision or a spur-of-the-moment thing, and won't make her feel like you're questioning her judgement.

If you *don't* know the model, and you are worried that it might be something spur-of-the-moment, then the only acceptable response is "I don't think you need to, but if that's what you want..."

If you don't like her decision just because you don't like implants/tattoos/lipo/whatever, the only thing you should do is quietly leave, and hide the model.

Remember- she likely has 100 people telling her "Go for it!" and 100 people telling her "WHY? No! Don't do it!" She has probably already talked this out with family and close friends, and already done the research necessary. She does not need you to badger her, to make her feel like shit for her decisions, or to act like her protector.

 

[bob]

I appreciate the sentiments from Greer are somewhat outdated but Levy's work is fairly current and whilst being feminist doesn't seem to be a huge fan of third wave feminism, current feminism doesn't seem to be a monolithic block under the third wave banner.

i actually think that veronica's post makes that clear

.... Feminism, like all parts of humanity, is constantly evolving....

Proponents of third-wave feminism claim that it allows women to define feminism for themselves by incorporating their own identities into the belief system of what feminism is and what it can become through one's own perspective.

ultimately...this whole question, imo, is about our (that would be an inclusive "our") freedom to be, and the struggle to take responsibility for ourselves.....it's one of the reasons that i got involved in this thread....from over here....it's both simplistic and self-defeating to tell each other what we're doing wrong.....we've been eating from that plate of assumptions for 50 years now.....
:whistle:

 

[bob]

The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

and herein lies the rub, as is pertains to the captialism of cammming....please don't take this the wrong way....but you also said

Also, many girls have said their income has increased greatly with a boob job.

i'm on this feminism jag right now....so forgive me....i maybe just another twit....but
how is it that a boob job done to increase income is different than a boob job done to increase one's sexual appeal to men?

don't get me wrong....if it's done for economic perceptions, and it ends up paying well, then the choice was obviously a good one.
but the gray area remains.....you work in an industry that plays on age old preconceptions of man and woman....to make the decision to increase your credibility in that industry is different, imo, than empowering yourself as a woman.

as a sex obect....sure.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

The part that I disagree with is that you think we get boob jobs to make us more desirable. Hahaha!!!!! Although, that may be true for SOME women, many make body mods for themselves. It has nothing to do with how guys view them. The thought that we change ourselves to please you, is laughable. Many of us make desisions because WE like the way it looks!

and herein lies the rub, as is pertains to the captialism of cammming....please don't take this the wrong way....but you also said

Also, many girls have said their income has increased greatly with a boob job.

i'm on this feminism jag right now....so forgive me....i maybe just another twit....but
how is it that a boob job done to increase income is different than a boob job done to increase one's sexual appeal to men?

don't get me wrong....if it's done for economic perceptions, and it ends up paying well, then the choice was obviously a good one.
but the gray area remains.....you work in an industry that plays on age old preconceptions of man and woman....to make the decision to increase your credibility in that industry is different, imo, than empowering yourself as a woman.

as a sex obect....sure.

:twocents-02cents:

I said that the boob job increased their income. I did NOT say they got the boob job to increase their income. They got it soley for themselves, that was just a bonus.

 

[bob]

I said that the boob job increased their income. I did NOT say they got the boob job to increase their income. They got it soley for themselves, that was just a bonus.

then i stand corrected....thank you
but the point remains, i believe

 

[AllisonWilder]

5 pages about boobs and feminism and not one boobie picture? That's so disappointing.

 

[Ariel_Moon]

I know I complained ...but actually...as long as it stays away from the whole 'I'm going to tell you how to REALLY be a feminist' debate...

I'm quite glad that people are discussing feminism. Especially on a webcam based forum. It's actually really great that it's becoming a normal thing for people to discuss... even three years ago a lot of people would laugh in my face if I even mentioned the word 'feminism'.

Well they still do actually...but at least it's getting less. :-D

...carry on.

 

[Nordling]

5 pages about boobs and feminism and not one boobie picture? That's so disappointing.

Agree! I did a Google search for "most beautiful breasts in the world," and the results were mostly not even breasts... However, it did include Salma Hayek, which was nice.

 

[UncleThursday]

Uncle Thursday, although you are correct, yes these are all things to be thought through, as Arrietty said, whoever's actually making that decision has probably thought those things through, and even if they haven't, it is NOT your place to say anything.

For cosmetic surgery, yes, it is pretty much assured they have thought it through. After all, one can literally die while under the knife, so one would hope anyone doing it has thought it through.

For tattoos... well, we've all seen some real bad spur of the moment tattoos in our lifetimes on people. So, probably more 50/50.

But I never said it was my place to say anything about it. One of my favs got her boobs done about a year ago. When she mentioned it in chat well before she got them, I said I felt she didn't need them, personally, but it was up to her. I still don't think she needed them, but I never bring up her boobs. But, she did go to a good surgeon, and took care of herself while they healed, so they look mostly natural on her. Plus she didn't go from her original A cup to a DD cup or anything.

As I said before, some fakes look very good on the girls. Some added to their already great bodies.

There are others, though. :naughty: One girl I perv recently got hers done. She has a beautiful face, and her body was already amazing, but she got her boobs done and was almost immediately on cam after the bandages came off. She hasn't really taken care of her new bewbs very well at all, and it has turned her once beautiful body into an unshapely mess from below her neck to above her tummy. Everything else is still amazing, just not her chest.

But, I haven't said anything to her about it. Won't ever say anything about it. But, since she wasn't a model I chill and have fun with-- I only perved her-- it also means I will probably never take her private or anything like that.

Iris said she wants to get implants. My only advice to her is not to go overboard, since she has a small frame, and to take care of them once the procedure is done. She's a real cool girl, and it's her decision. I'm not going to hate on her when she gets it done. But I want her to still be attractive after everything is done. As long as she doesn't go to like F cups and takes care of herself, she should be fine.

I've seen some models on MFC get some absolutely horrendous boob jobs. And bad boob jobs are a huge turn off to me. If they were models I simply perved, well, I stopped perving them. Thankfully none of the models I have fun with have gotten bad boob jobs. Not entirely sure how I'd feel if they did, truth be told.

 

[Kunra9]

This has been a fun thread! I didn't expect it to get this many responses.

Thanks everyone

\

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

If you know the model fairly well, and she says she wants to get surgery or a tattoo, there are only two appropriate responses that aren't "good luck" or "can't wait to see it!". 1. How long have you been thinking of this? or 2. What brought this on? (or Why do you want them?) Either one of those will tell you if this is a well-thought-out decision or a spur-of-the-moment thing, and won't make her feel like you're questioning her judgement.


If you don't like her decision just because you don't like implants/tattoos/lipo/whatever, the only thing you should do is quietly leave, and hide the model.

Remember- she likely has 100 people telling her "Go for it!" and 100 people telling her "WHY? No! Don't do it!" She has probably already talked this out with family and close friends, and already done the research necessary. She does not need you to badger her, to make her feel like shit for her decisions, or to act like her protector.

I think this is very sensible advice and should cover the bulk of these situations.
Now imagine that your favorite model, one you have been tipping 5,000-10,000 tokens a month says that she is planning on getting implants. You ask what brought this on. She says "I've always be self-conscious about the size of her boobs, she knows she'd look better in clothes with bigger boobs. Plus almost all the top models on MFC have big boobs." She explains that she has researched the procedure, and is going to cam extra hard to earn the money for the surgery. She thanks you for being a such generous tipper in the past and hints that she wants you to continue.

As guy with a natural fetish one of the things that really drew you to her were her cute little perky boobs. You like much more than her just her physical appearance now but still it is huge factor on why you spend so much money on her. You rather saw your hand off with rusty pocket knife than give her money so she can spend it on surgery.

It seems me that simply shutting up and quietly leaving and hiding the model seems pretty drastic. Isn't there another step?

 

[TacoBelle]

Kunra, I don't know why, but I really just want to snuggle you. That is all. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Anonymous]

Now imagine that your favorite model, one you have been tipping 5,000-10,000 tokens a month says that she is planning on getting implants. You ask what brought this on. She says "I've always be self-conscious about the size of her boobs, she knows she'd look better in clothes with bigger boobs. Plus almost all the top models on MFC have big boobs." She explains that she has researched the procedure, and is going to cam extra hard to earn the money for the surgery. She thanks you for being a such generous tipper in the past and hints that she wants you to continue.

As guy with a natural fetish one of the things that really drew you to her were her cute little perky boobs. You like much more than her just her physical appearance now but still it is huge factor on why you spend so much money on her. You rather saw your hand off with rusty pocket knife than give her money so she can spend it on surgery.

It seems me that simply shutting up and quietly leaving and hiding the model seems pretty drastic. Isn't there another step?

You didn't sign a contract that says you HAVE to continue tipping her forever. We lose tippers all the time for a variety of reasons. We know that some of them stop visiting/tipping us and move on to other models...it happens.

If your favorite model's new boobs are actually going to be a deal-breaker for you, then stop visiting her room if it bugs you that much. If she PMs you to ask why you don't visit her anymore, you can break it to her gently the reason you stopped visiting. And by 'breaking it to her gently', I don't mean blurting out "Cuz you fucked up your body with those damn implants! THAT's why!" LOL.

And remember...if you're not gonna tip your favorite model anymore (because she made the decision to get implants), don't become one of those all-night-long lurking premiums in her room. That would be pretty rude, in my opinion. LadyLuna had the right idea when she said you could 'hide' the model.

Nordling has made it clear to me that he is not a fan of tattoos (and he's never lectured me, or gotten all 'preachy' about it), but he's not so picky about it that he'd actually stop visiting me on cam just because I may show up one day with a third tattoo on my arm. He doesn't have a requirement that 'every model he tips HAS to be without tattoos'.....

 

[Nordling]

Exactly. To get all Mr. Advisor because of such a superficial thing (to someone other than the model) as body alterations, means that you didn't care about the PERSON all that much to begin with. Throw a wad of money at them, and you own them--or at least their decisions?