Members "gifting" in a model's chat room...

[JordanBlack]

1a: Models, how do you feel about members "gifting" items that you're raffling off/selling/etc to other members in your room? Is it acceptable if it's people that you're already familiar with, or not at all?

Like many other girls I have a pretty friendly crowd and it happened more then once for token transfers to happen, I have nothing against that. Even with raffle tickets, seeing that I'm only offering skype shows/ vids/ pics, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable if they were buying each other raffle tickets. Now on the other hand, I would be quite pissed if someone would've bought a raffle ticket for a dude I have never seen in my life (it happened in the past though and I made it clear that I won't allow it).

2a: Models, do you feel that members who present themselves as females in your room have to behave a certain way to be taken seriously? Do you think you treat members with female names the same as others?

Well this gets complicated, apparently I get a lot of "hi bb, iam a girl and i deserve special attention" type of member. What happened to you Amber, with a member buying a raffle ticket for "the girl" happened to me too. Apparently some guys thought it would be "hot" to just imagine a Skype Show with me and "the chick". I actually had to explain all that to my guys that said person is not a girl (no girl would act like "she" was anyway).

I can't put all the guys in the same pot, not all think alike, some are more gullible then others (in an innocent way) and they won't know any better until you poke them a bit.

Being bisexual, I have no issue with having girls in my room at all, but I do get pissy when I see that some dude plays the "I'm a chick" card to get free stuff or just more attention. It gets distracting and it's quite uncomfortable to call it out in chat because it will create unnecessary drama.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

(not PB Megan, a member who claimed to be a widowed woman named Megan who had two kids and was a nurse etc to get guys to send her money and gifts and tokens...long story, but I proved that she was actually a man who was using a Hooters waitress's photos on his profile...)

I would dearly love to hear said long story it sounds like a good one

btw when searching for that image I came across the charmingly titled 'How to Use Popcorn for Deer Bait'(sic) it may appeal to some of the vicious bunnyhunters among you, if any of you remain after losing your leader Bocefish

Against the law to use food as an attractant within 10 days of hunting on the land in Missouri. That said it's REALLY ironic every year at deer hunting time Wal-Mart gets a big ole pallet full of 50 pound bags of feed corn with a nice big buck pictured on the front of them. Oh and a trick stolen from the vineyards of the area. Deer REALLY LOVE peanut butter! The vineyards in this area all have electric fences to keep animals away from the grapes. But deer can just jump right over them easily. So they take a square of aluminum foil and smear some P.B. on it. Fold that over one of the wires every so often. The deer come up and want to lick the peanut butter. ZAP!

(And don't tell me it's cruel. It's a shock that leaves them alive and fully healthy, just scared. And the alternative is a grower getting mad at his crops being eaten and out there shooting them at night.)

 

[DudeExtreme]

Edit: wait, are you saying that when doing raffles (something anyone could win) that models shouldn't offer prizes of a personal nature? Do you think it's unprofessional for a model to offer personal items for sale/not for a raffle?

I may be wrong, but I gathered that sending anything to a member is unprofessional in his opinion, and even worse if it's of a personal nature.

yep, I did write it down like that, really wrong choice of words from me.

I find sending panties is just creepy, but I see that The_Brown_Fox has fun about the idea that Paulie has her jizzy panties, lets finish this subject with the image that Paulie Walnuts is wearing Fox's panties on his head.

Less than 2 years ago, I probably would have agreed with you. Well, what can I say? Opinions changed and I'm a collector. I definitely don't do anything creepy with them, but Megan has seen me hang her undies on my ears.

 

[RedHerby]

I definitely don't do anything creepy with them, but Megan has seen me hang her undies on my ears.

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[BobbyB]

So today something that happened has inspired me to write about and ask for feedback on it. There are 2 questions that arose from the scenario today.


SO, here are the 2 questions I'd love some member AND model feedback on:



1b: Members, how do you feel about tipping to "gift" items to the other members? Wouldn't it make more sense to just xfer tokens to them and let them tip for it themselves? Is it because you don't trust that the member will use the tokens the way you want them to? If you don't trust another member with xferred tokens, is it then reasonable for the model to not trust this other member with gifted material? Would you require that the member you're gifting to be a regular person in the model's chat room?


For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???
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2b: Members, do you get distracted by members in the room who flaunt the fact that they're female? Is it just their name or their behavior that distracts you? Do you feel it's unfair if a model prefers attention not be drawn to the fact that members may be female?

Here again no problem for me if a member calls himself Charly Brown or Horny Judy this is the internet and mostly there is little way to check if the gender is really what he name suggests, as long as members behave in an acceptable manner I don't care about gender...I guess maybe as a model it can be a bit strange if there are possible females in the room...

Just my humble opinion..

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Edit to add: by the way, I only emphasize that this member had a female name because I do feel, in the end, that members who are female end up getting different attention and possibly more "gifted items" than other male members in rooms. Though previously, the female members whom were gifted items in my room were established and awesome members of my regular group of people.

 

[AmberCutie]

For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???

I'll quote something I said earlier in the thread in response to this.

I am sort of in a mindset where I feel everyone has to EARN what they're getting in some way or another. 1 way is to actually pay for it with tokens. Another way is to gradually become a trusted part of the model's little community of members by being around often and being part of the chat. If a person has done exactly 0 of those things, then I don't really want them to get anything extra aside from seeing the shows I put on in free chat or a smile and a "hello" if they greet me.

And when I said "pay for it with tokens" I am referring to their own tokens. If a brand new person came in and gifted something to a person who is already established in my room, and/or has already spent some tokens on me, that is perfectly fine. If a brand new person came in and tipped to be in the raffle and the won, then they earned it by tipping for it themselves, even though they aren't an established part of my room, this is till ok for me.

 

[BobbyB]

For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???

I'll quote something I said earlier in the thread in response to this.

I am sort of in a mindset where I feel everyone has to EARN what they're getting in some way or another. 1 way is to actually pay for it with tokens. Another way is to gradually become a trusted part of the model's little community of members by being around often and being part of the chat. If a person has done exactly 0 of those things, then I don't really want them to get anything extra aside from seeing the shows I put on in free chat or a smile and a "hello" if they greet me.

And when I said "pay for it with tokens" I am referring to their own tokens. If a brand new person came in and gifted something to a person who is already established in my room, and/or has already spent some tokens on me, that is perfectly fine. If a brand new person came in and tipped to be in the raffle and the won, then they earned it by tipping for it themselves, even though they aren't an established part of my room, this is till ok for me.

Hi Amber, your are of course perfectly entitled to run your room as you see fit....
But in your example if I show up as a brand new person in your room I have likely no clue who is already established or who was maybe just coming 5 minutes earlier as a brand new member......
Not sure if it is maybe a gender issue , in my male mind if someone pays up I make no difference if it "his own" money or if someone else pays for him....
To be honest I would be a bit annoyed if I send a tip during a raffle to "gift " it to someone else and suddenly there is a problem about this....
Maybe good this scenario comes up here, so I will check with a model in advance before I start "gifting"..

Anyway I really like this board, sometimes interesting topics

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I noted in my original post that if the person had just tipped to be in the raffle, instead of drawing attention with the "oh woe is me I am a girl who can't tip for the raffle" I would have felt less uncomfortable with the person and them getting the items if they won.

It was moreso the fact that the attention she drew to herself got someone to tip for her that put me off, added to the fact that I've never talked to her before that night. A combination of things.

I am sort of in a mindset where I feel everyone has to EARN what they're getting in some way or another. 1 way is to actually pay for it with tokens. Another way is to gradually become a trusted part of the model's little community of members by being around often and being part of the chat. If a person has done exactly 0 of those things, then I don't really want them to get anything extra aside from seeing the shows I put on in free chat or a smile and a "hello" if they greet me.

Back to the subject of gifting: I absolutely do think it adds to the community feel when members gift things occasionally to other regulars in the room, but I do think it's something that the tipper should run by the model first to ensure it's A-OK with her. :thumbleft:

I've perved with a number of models on their premium accounts in other models rooms. Generally we take turns going to each others favorite models rooms. Now for a variety of reasons the models don't want to announce themselves as models. But it is clear from their names, profile pic, and their comments "OMG those shoes are so cute", that they are either a girl or a guy in virtual drag. Now sometimes I'll transfer tokens to their premium account so they can tip. But as far as buying stuff, it is both easier, and I like to earn brownie points with models, to tip and add in the tip note give the video or raffle ticket to this girl.

While I'll try and check with the model in the future before doing so. I will point out that checking with a model first is often impractical. PMs often don't get checked or are turned off, and I can't very well explain who "Susie" is in public chat without ruining her desire to remain under the radar.

Anyway I just wanted to point out the relationship between the gift giver and the recipient, may not be as seems. So if model decides to not honor a gift requests, I sure hope they check, like Amber did, with the member first.

 

[Anonymous]

To be honest I would be a bit annoyed if I send a tip during a raffle to "gift " it to someone else and suddenly there is a problem about this....
Maybe good this scenario comes up here, so I will check with a model in advance before I start "gifting"..

You may not understand it or may think it's annoying, but in the end it should be about what the model is or isn't comfortable with. After all, she is the one who is putting her time and effort into creating the winner's custom video or doing the Skype show for the winner. She may not want you to buy a ticket for some dude who contributes nothing but vulgar "I wanna fuk da shit outta you!" comments. And if you do buy a ticket for this dude, in her head she could be cussing you out...No, this mothafucka did NOT just buy a raffle ticket for that fuckin' creep! Gee, thanks a lot... LOL!

So yes, your best bet would be to maybe PM the model to ask if it's okay if you tip for _____ (creepy guy who stares and drools but never tips) to get a ticket. Discussing it IN public chat puts her in an awkward situation of having to tell you out loud "Sorry, I'm not giving that ticket to him." LOL.

And if you're feeling generous but aren't really interested in the raffle, you could always just tip her 'just because' and specify in the tip note that it's not for the raffle.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I have likely no clue who is already established or who was maybe just coming 5 minutes earlier

 

[southsamurai]

im going to say it, but only because im a devious bastard who doesnt mind doing bad things to achieve good ends.
there isnt any reason why if someone buys a raffle ticket for someone else, particularly someone new, or that you dont like, that you can't just "drop" the ticket under the bed or into the trash by "accident".
i know, i know unethical and partially dishonest, but still. it is always a possible course of action.

 

[AmberCutie]

For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???

I'll quote something I said earlier in the thread in response to this.

I am sort of in a mindset where I feel everyone has to EARN what they're getting in some way or another. 1 way is to actually pay for it with tokens. Another way is to gradually become a trusted part of the model's little community of members by being around often and being part of the chat. If a person has done exactly 0 of those things, then I don't really want them to get anything extra aside from seeing the shows I put on in free chat or a smile and a "hello" if they greet me.

And when I said "pay for it with tokens" I am referring to their own tokens. If a brand new person came in and gifted something to a person who is already established in my room, and/or has already spent some tokens on me, that is perfectly fine. If a brand new person came in and tipped to be in the raffle and the won, then they earned it by tipping for it themselves, even though they aren't an established part of my room, this is till ok for me.

Hi Amber, your are of course perfectly entitled to run your room as you see fit....
But in your example if I show up as a brand new person in your room I have likely no clue who is already established or who was maybe just coming 5 minutes earlier as a brand new member......
Not sure if it is maybe a gender issue , in my male mind if someone pays up I make no difference if it "his own" money or if someone else pays for him....
To be honest I would be a bit annoyed if I send a tip during a raffle to "gift " it to someone else and suddenly there is a problem about this....
Maybe good this scenario comes up here, so I will check with a model in advance before I start "gifting"..

Anyway I really like this board, sometimes interesting topics

That's why it would be best to get to know the model/room and ask the model before doing something like that. Best idea is just to tip for your own stuff, not for others, until you know who you're surrounded by.

It makes a difference to me if it's a persons own money or not. It shows a certain amount of respect and an extra confirmation that the person is actually interested in contributing to my room. If a person stops in for one day, gets a free "gift" and I never see him/her again, I'd rather they have gotten nothing.

I'm the kind of cam girl who likes to build a rapport with people and have them come back and be part of the room again and again. For those who only stop in once and grab a video/pic set, at least they paid for it with their own tokens and contributed SOMETHING to me themselves.

The way that MFC operates, we models already give a ton away for free when it comes to all the viewers who sit and watch for hours and don't pitch in. I'd just rather that be the extent of it. As I said, people should EARN what I send out, with time or tokens or both.

 

[AmberCutie]

im going to say it, but only because im a devious bastard who doesnt mind doing bad things to achieve good ends.
there isnt any reason why if someone buys a raffle ticket for someone else, particularly someone new, or that you dont like, that you can't just "drop" the ticket under the bed or into the trash by "accident".
i know, i know unethical and partially dishonest, but still. it is always a possible course of action.

I'd much rather look like the bitch who denies the gift giving and provides a polite explanation for it than the scam-bitch who somehow gets caught being dishonest.

 

[AmberCutie]

I've perved with a number of models on their premium accounts in other models rooms. Generally we take turns going to each others favorite models rooms. Now for a variety of reasons the models don't want to announce themselves as models. But it is clear from their names, profile pic, and their comments "OMG those shoes are so cute", that they are either a girl or a guy in virtual drag. Now sometimes I'll transfer tokens to their premium account so they can tip. But as far as buying stuff, it is both easier, and I like to earn brownie points with models, to tip and add in the tip note give the video or raffle ticket to this girl.

While I'll try and check with the model in the future before doing so. I will point out that checking with a model first is often impractical. PMs often don't get checked or are turned off, and I can't very well explain who "Susie" is in public chat without ruining her desire to remain under the radar.

Anyway I just wanted to point out the relationship between the gift giver and the recipient, may not be as seems. So if model decides to not honor a gift requests, I sure hope they check, like Amber did, with the member first.

If one of my regulars PMd me and vouched for the member he/she tipped for, I think it would make a difference in how I feel. That person would then be considered less of a stranger and more of an acquaintance via my regular. Hell even including "this is for xyzmember she/he is my friend" would be perfect.

 

[Jupiter551]

So today something that happened has inspired me to write about and ask for feedback on it. There are 2 questions that arose from the scenario today.


SO, here are the 2 questions I'd love some member AND model feedback on:



1b: Members, how do you feel about tipping to "gift" items to the other members? Wouldn't it make more sense to just xfer tokens to them and let them tip for it themselves? Is it because you don't trust that the member will use the tokens the way you want them to? If you don't trust another member with xferred tokens, is it then reasonable for the model to not trust this other member with gifted material? Would you require that the member you're gifting to be a regular person in the model's chat room?


For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???
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2b: Members, do you get distracted by members in the room who flaunt the fact that they're female? Is it just their name or their behavior that distracts you? Do you feel it's unfair if a model prefers attention not be drawn to the fact that members may be female?

Here again no problem for me if a member calls himself Charly Brown or Horny Judy this is the internet and mostly there is little way to check if the gender is really what he name suggests, as long as members behave in an acceptable manner I don't care about gender...I guess maybe as a model it can be a bit strange if there are possible females in the room...

Just my humble opinion..

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Edit to add: by the way, I only emphasize that this member had a female name because I do feel, in the end, that members who are female end up getting different attention and possibly more "gifted items" than other male members in rooms. Though previously, the female members whom were gifted items in my room were established and awesome members of my regular group of people.

^ weirdest and most elaborate stylistic post structure fuck-up I think I've ever seen

 

[BobbyB]

So today something that happened has inspired me to write about and ask for feedback on it. There are 2 questions that arose from the scenario today.


SO, here are the 2 questions I'd love some member AND model feedback on:



1b: Members, how do you feel about tipping to "gift" items to the other members? Wouldn't it make more sense to just xfer tokens to them and let them tip for it themselves? Is it because you don't trust that the member will use the tokens the way you want them to? If you don't trust another member with xferred tokens, is it then reasonable for the model to not trust this other member with gifted material? Would you require that the member you're gifting to be a regular person in the model's chat room?


For me this is a total non issue:
Lets assume I come new in your room and there is a raffle going on and I tip and join and win, I guess you would send me the prize without any problems...
Now lets change it a bit, I come new in your room and a raffle is going on and for whatever reason I decide to pay for a ticket for another member in the room, and he wins, he is new I am new so wht is the difference in sending the prize ???
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2b: Members, do you get distracted by members in the room who flaunt the fact that they're female? Is it just their name or their behavior that distracts you? Do you feel it's unfair if a model prefers attention not be drawn to the fact that members may be female?

Here again no problem for me if a member calls himself Charly Brown or Horny Judy this is the internet and mostly there is little way to check if the gender is really what he name suggests, as long as members behave in an acceptable manner I don't care about gender...I guess maybe as a model it can be a bit strange if there are possible females in the room...

Just my humble opinion..

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Edit to add: by the way, I only emphasize that this member had a female name because I do feel, in the end, that members who are female end up getting different attention and possibly more "gifted items" than other male members in rooms. Though previously, the female members whom were gifted items in my room were established and awesome members of my regular group of people.

^ weirdest and most elaborate stylistic post structure fuck-up I think I've ever seen

Thanks, maybe I should consider a career as an artist...

 

[UncleThursday]

1b: Members, how do you feel about tipping to "gift" items to the other members? Wouldn't it make more sense to just xfer tokens to them and let them tip for it themselves? Is it because you don't trust that the member will use the tokens the way you want them to? If you don't trust another member with xferred tokens, is it then reasonable for the model to not trust this other member with gifted material? Would you require that the member you're gifting to be a regular person in the model's chat room?

I don't often enter raffles. I never win. :lol:

But, besides that, I wouldn't mind gifting to a regular in a room whom I had some sort of rapport with. But, even so, it would be rare. By the same token, I am not one to want to accept gifted raffle tickets if I am short on tokens.

As for transfers... Same boat. It's rare that I will transfer tokens. My cousin is on the site, so in his case I might make an exception, but for the most part, I am on a pretty tight token budget as is, so transferring tokens to another member isn't high on my list of things to do. Also, I do not like to be the recipient of token transfers. I remember a few years back, in an Aussie model's room I had become a reg in, she was going to go group but I had no tokens to go (I had lost my job a few days before), and her and some members tried to get me to take some tokens to go. I politely refused, stating I had no idea when I would be able to pay the tokens back.

2b: Members, do you get distracted by members in the room who flaunt the fact that they're female? Is it just their name or their behavior that distracts you? Do you feel it's unfair if a model prefers attention not be drawn to the fact that members may be female?

I'm not often in rooms, anymore. Normally only if I am planning on going private with the model in question. But, even when I am in a room, I tend to ignore most of the conversations other members say, except for the regs I know, because most of it is inane bullshit anyway. And, like most, I assume any person claiming to be a woman in a chat room, without a cam on, is a male. Blame sites like Fling and Webdate for that, I guess. :lol:

So, I would give no special treatment to anyone claiming to be a woman. Even if I knew they were female, I wouldn't... unless it was a female that had 'fun' with me on occasion.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Ok replying to the original post before reading the thread.

I don't think I'd feel uncomfortable if someone who'd never tipped before won a raffle just because they were saying they're female. If it were a member I knew then maybe. Or if the member was like "crap I only have 150 tokens" for something that costs 200 tokens I might be ok with another member tipping the remaining 50. I would not be cool with a member tipping the whole lot for some total random.


I do find members act differently with members with female names. I for one HATE it that whenever I go have a perve/hang out in model friends rooms I get random members messaging me trying to dirty talk me. Just yesterday is was "are you female?"
No... I just call myself isabella... wtf? seriously, 1500 models online right now and you're messaging me?! fuck off!

I share a few regulars with a model friend of mine, we both hang out in each others room, it's all cool, sometimes I'll log onto my member account and members will transfer tokens to me so I can join a group. I've found that when I'm on my member account other members often seem desperate to send me tokens! Whether to my member account of to my model account. I was once on my member cam (which is only friendslist) and I said to anyone who wanted to see me that they'd have to tip 150 tokens, I didn't actually expect anyone to. Loads did... I was in baggy pjs wearing no make up looking like crap.

Members seem to act different around other "female" members. As though girls on mfc are rare species. I guess it's a mixture of female premiums are there not for a job but because they want to be there, and the whole lesbian thing. Maybe the guys also feel they have more chance.. I don't know. It's a stupid idea because any female searching for females is not interested in male members unless she wants their tokens or is already a model on mfc. Sure they might not mind a chat, but if a girl is seeking a female for sexual reasons, she's not exactly going to want to dirty chat with some pervy man instead. Women can do that anywhere.

Personally I don't really like "female" members in my room. Model friends dropping in is cool as long as they don't blatently advertise my room or try and poach regulars, although it is natural for members to check out a model hanging out in my room of their own accord and the other model can't really stop that, as long as their regulars check me out just as much it kind of evens it out.
If a female member is in my room I would rather them not announce it to the room or start flirting with members. A bit of interaction is cool, but essentially if they're in my room they should be there to talk to/watch me, not my regulars.

I both find it funny and sometimes a little sickening how members will pretty much always flirt/get curious about another "female" in my room. Watching other people flirt with each other is always a little uncomfortable and often a bit cringeworthy. I do think members should be aware of this and just try and treat female members like they treat other members in the room. Members are not models boyfriends, we are not dating you, but... when you're in my room I would like you to treat me with the consideration of someone you are dating. I bloody hope you do not blatantly flirt with every random woman you meet right in front of your spouses. At best it's embarrassing on the members part watching them faun over someone who's probably a freeloading dude trying to get freebies and transferred tokens. At worst it'll upset the model you're watching and make her feel left out and might alienate her in her own room.