Curious, have you been planning to visit Europe anyway? Or did this just come up since chatting with the model?
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Be very careful. Infatuation is a powerful thing and can cause the human brain to having you doing things that you normally wouldn't do. But if you have the money and you just have that feeling that you need to go check it out for yourself, then do it. But, sex trafficking and all kind of scams exist out there and not just for women. People will buy a young strong 22 year old male and sale him like a slave in that market. But like @Carmita Bonita story, sometimes you get lucky and your wishes come true, but often times people can be deceiving. It's your life though, so do what you feel is best, but think about things carefully. Even if you end up going and shit goes left, it's a funny ass story to be able to say you were young dumb and 22 and chased a Romanian across the globe. Just make sure you're safe about it and really think it over. It's all life lessons in the end. Wish you the best!
As a person who has safely met many people off the Interwebz when it wasn't the cool thing to do (ICQ days!), I would like to second the idea that you should rent a hotel room, at least in the beginning, before you see how real life chemistry goes. I cannot tell you how many people I have met who had nothing to say, and had no chemistry once we were face to face, even if they were good looking. It would be incredibly weird to be stuck living at her place if that happens. Goes without saying that you should stick to public places at first as well. Romania is not a bad place (so many beautiful places to visit, and cheap for westerners), but you have to understand that extreme poverty does not give people a chance to live at Maslow's highest level of one's potential in the day to day stuff. If she does not need your money, she may very well still want your citizenship, because many young people want a ticket out of there.
I think you will be just fine safety wise going there (avoid public transportation other than trains if possible), but if things go well, marriage is the only way you can be together, and getting married so young will probably not end well. I left Canada for a US guy at 24, and we got married so that we could be together in one place and not have to go back and forth every X months. Turns out we weren't as compatible as we thought, and we ended in divorce 6 years later. One family member of mine and a few other friends imported mates from Europe and they are ALL divorced today. I'm not poopoo-ing online relationships because I met my current partner on a facebook page and we've happily been together for almost 5 years now, but it just seems that marriage for legal residence (not because one wants to take advantage of another person, but simply because that's how shitty the immigration system is that it forces your hand to marry basically) does not have a high success rate. Time is a precious resource that you do not get back, and you are in for a lot of potential complications at a tender age by pursuing a person who lives a continent away. Best of luck to you regardless of which path you choose.
I think you will be just fine safety wise going there (avoid public transportation other than trains if possible), but if things go well, marriage is the only way you can be together, and getting married so young will probably not end well. I left Canada for a US guy at 24, and we got married so that we could be together in one place and not have to go back and forth every X months. Turns out we weren't as compatible as we thought, and we ended in divorce 6 years later. One family member of mine and a few other friends imported mates from Europe and they are ALL divorced today. I'm not poopoo-ing online relationships because I met my current partner on a facebook page and we've happily been together for almost 5 years now, but it just seems that marriage for legal residence (not because one wants to take advantage of another person, but simply because that's how shitty the immigration system is that it forces your hand to marry basically) does not have a high success rate. Time is a precious resource that you do not get back, and you are in for a lot of potential complications at a tender age by pursuing a person who lives a continent away. Best of luck to you regardless of which path you choose.
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Holy crap! Somebody dropping a "Maslow's hierarchy" reference! First time for that, as far as I can tell. And a year or two ago there was a thread that mentioned Schrodinger's cat (even though one of the dudes thought it was about a real cat, lol).
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There is no reason it can't work out.
Safety is still the most important thing. Get a hotel room and don't bring a lot of cash or anything valuable with you. Take it slow and see how things work out before making any rash decisions.
Safety is still the most important thing. Get a hotel room and don't bring a lot of cash or anything valuable with you. Take it slow and see how things work out before making any rash decisions.
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As a person who has safely met many people off the Interwebz when it wasn't the cool thing to do (ICQ days!), I would like to second the idea that you should rent a hotel room, at least in the beginning, before you see how real life chemistry goes. I cannot tell you how many people I have met who had nothing to say, and had no chemistry once we were face to face, even if they were good looking. It would be incredibly weird to be stuck living at her place if that happens. Goes without saying that you should stick to public places at first as well. Romania is not a bad place (so many beautiful places to visit, and cheap for westerners), but you have to understand that extreme poverty does not give people a chance to live at Maslow's highest level of one's potential in the day to day stuff. If she does not need your money, she may very well still want your citizenship, because many young people want a ticket out of there.
I think you will be just fine safety wise going there (avoid public transportation other than trains if possible), but if things go well, marriage is the only way you can be together, and getting married so young will probably not end well. I left Canada for a US guy at 24, and we got married so that we could be together in one place and not have to go back and forth every X months. Turns out we weren't as compatible as we thought, and we ended in divorce 6 years later. One family member of mine and a few other friends imported mates from Europe and they are ALL divorced today. I'm not poopoo-ing online relationships because I met my current partner on a facebook page and we've happily been together for almost 5 years now, but it just seems that marriage for legal residence (not because one wants to take advantage of another person, but simply because that's how shitty the immigration system is that it forces your hand to marry basically) does not have a high success rate. Time is a precious resource that you do not get back, and you are in for a lot of potential complications at a tender age by pursuing a person who lives a continent away. Best of luck to you regardless of which path you choose.
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When are you going? I wanna know when I should expect an update haha
most guys who watch cams don't fit your fat and ugly description, at least the ones I know on a more personal level. They aren't all super old either, but guess what I'd still NEVER meet any of them and most girls are the same way. So just because your not "fat and ugly" and your only 20 doesn't mean this situation isn't totally sketchy and that you should be careful. Just a heads up though
Agree that was pertaining to another thread one girl tagged me in, but we will see what will happen
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So... is everyone around here only considering or having even experience of "falling in love" kind of thing ? I mean... No one, at all, has had just some friendship going beyond the usual fan/model relationship ? i say because... I think I count on a pair of those (friendship-only, I mean) , both models, one is a woman to which I even from time to time help with her kids studies when they get the teacher's warning (ie, teaching maths with remote tools) and with advice, sometimes even fixing her computer remotely....I do this because I have ended up caring for her, as a friend, and her family. The other, just friendship (usually telling me her problems...). Maybe is a rather different case to the one in this thread, am forty something and a bit past of too many things, and speaking of love, I felt in love with one woman from another country, and met her in the street, not online, helped her to find her hotel at night, there all started... (is broken now, and it was my fault, but have not my mind able, (for years, now) to fall in love with another, so this kind of avoids the mentioned friendships-only to go to another level, with also a lot of limits imposed by reality and distance, anyway... )
Before... I had been fooled by a woman, who I met online, and certainly wasn't either with the love thing, but it involved money.... that was too many years ago, but makes you specially aware of any strange detail or clue. You get a good collection of red flags (I have of many colors, at this point...). My family got scammed to (my parents) by someone from another country too, and not online met... supposedly needing money help.. In that case I was the one not believing her, but they realized in the end, after a long nightmare to get some bucks back... All this gives you quite some knowledge to detect bad stuff... And ... even so ... !
And about the matter also mentioned here about real life sharing the same space and air... So true, but I would add a very important aspect about it.... Is not only with..."love"...or the mind construction that happens in -IMHO!- the majority of these cases, I had, and still have, the deepest friendship I could ever think of with a man (am not homosexual in a single bit, it was/is just the greatest friend ever) . Only knew him online, several decades ago (back in 96 I think...), in the starts of Internet (for the average joe, that is), we were in a group interested in videogames and computer tech. The guy helped me through many situations with solid good advice, and I did later as well, so, I'd say, online and all, was/is true friendship, at the deepest possible level. Many years later, we went to the beach, a flat from my family directly in the beach... Well, it was really curious. Is like when you see a movie not in the original actor voices, lol... the guy speaking sounded really different, and actually was quite different. There are people who don't match as friends or in other aspects, they don't naturally do in a first shot. Still, got used to the initial lack of friend-chemistry, and some weird stuff i think each of us thought of the other. In a second occasion, we finally "identified" the guy who was really the great friend of always, once speaking of really important stuff. It was the very opposite case to the woman (besides her being a matter of love), and obviously, in this case without the sex and passion component. The woman, we had immediate full chemistry in every level, and if I hadn't done things wrong (meh, just didn't want to move to another country, that's it...), we'd be married by now... A very intensive time, best moments in my life probably. Once I tried to recover her, by online ways it was impossible, she hates all that, thinks is a stupid fake of human relations and real communication. The friend guy instead, I had known him since always by online, we speak better by non RL methods...and took me a while to get used to his RL version, but finally did (we keep mailing each other from time to time, and whenever help is needed in any direction, or to warn from a good job (he's a programmer and am a designer)). The thing is: I am not a weirdo unable to socialize, neither ugly, nor shy, and I think I have passed many different situations, the stupid ones and the ones that might have more to celebrate... And even so, i guess if I'd fall in love with a woman tomorrow, met online, I could still be in danger, or at least, could still fall in a scam... there's people out there really good in acting and telling complex lies...(but if your brain is cold, you can match things, a lie can be as well discovered very fast, look for consistency, patterns, etc)
So, another vote here for the hotel room. And... I don't consider my self too clever, but when I think of when I was 20, man I was a poor sheep ready to be attacked by any sort of wolf, even the ones with the teeth broken... So... If I were in the OP poster shoes, I'd be REALLY careful. In my country, almost every two days jumps a case of some east European network stopped or hunted, a lot related to human trafficking but also, drugs, et, etc. That's not to demonize a country by its mafias and smugglers, as is just a very small part of the population, even in the worst case/country. Yet so, I'm of the opinion that, anyway, one needs just to grow a thick skin, and be able to detect a scammer in any situation, and smell danger from 2 miles away, very independently of the matter that you are actually travelling to Romania or not. Shit can happen to you at your place, too...The thick skin and the brain working at full is the best defense...
And as a last advice, I'd tell the OP... Just manage to get some more social life (even if the job makes it difficult, there's always a way, I've had very consuming jobs, and I know you can if you propose it to yourself seriously...) in your local place. Meet women who would not demand a single coin from you no matter what. Indeed, I love when they pay my coffee... I have a sort of sexist male friend who shouts me there that "how do I permit that", haha. (I hope he says it as a joke, though...)
Before... I had been fooled by a woman, who I met online, and certainly wasn't either with the love thing, but it involved money.... that was too many years ago, but makes you specially aware of any strange detail or clue. You get a good collection of red flags (I have of many colors, at this point...). My family got scammed to (my parents) by someone from another country too, and not online met... supposedly needing money help.. In that case I was the one not believing her, but they realized in the end, after a long nightmare to get some bucks back... All this gives you quite some knowledge to detect bad stuff... And ... even so ... !
And about the matter also mentioned here about real life sharing the same space and air... So true, but I would add a very important aspect about it.... Is not only with..."love"...or the mind construction that happens in -IMHO!- the majority of these cases, I had, and still have, the deepest friendship I could ever think of with a man (am not homosexual in a single bit, it was/is just the greatest friend ever) . Only knew him online, several decades ago (back in 96 I think...), in the starts of Internet (for the average joe, that is), we were in a group interested in videogames and computer tech. The guy helped me through many situations with solid good advice, and I did later as well, so, I'd say, online and all, was/is true friendship, at the deepest possible level. Many years later, we went to the beach, a flat from my family directly in the beach... Well, it was really curious. Is like when you see a movie not in the original actor voices, lol... the guy speaking sounded really different, and actually was quite different. There are people who don't match as friends or in other aspects, they don't naturally do in a first shot. Still, got used to the initial lack of friend-chemistry, and some weird stuff i think each of us thought of the other. In a second occasion, we finally "identified" the guy who was really the great friend of always, once speaking of really important stuff. It was the very opposite case to the woman (besides her being a matter of love), and obviously, in this case without the sex and passion component. The woman, we had immediate full chemistry in every level, and if I hadn't done things wrong (meh, just didn't want to move to another country, that's it...), we'd be married by now... A very intensive time, best moments in my life probably. Once I tried to recover her, by online ways it was impossible, she hates all that, thinks is a stupid fake of human relations and real communication. The friend guy instead, I had known him since always by online, we speak better by non RL methods...and took me a while to get used to his RL version, but finally did (we keep mailing each other from time to time, and whenever help is needed in any direction, or to warn from a good job (he's a programmer and am a designer)). The thing is: I am not a weirdo unable to socialize, neither ugly, nor shy, and I think I have passed many different situations, the stupid ones and the ones that might have more to celebrate... And even so, i guess if I'd fall in love with a woman tomorrow, met online, I could still be in danger, or at least, could still fall in a scam... there's people out there really good in acting and telling complex lies...(but if your brain is cold, you can match things, a lie can be as well discovered very fast, look for consistency, patterns, etc)
So, another vote here for the hotel room. And... I don't consider my self too clever, but when I think of when I was 20, man I was a poor sheep ready to be attacked by any sort of wolf, even the ones with the teeth broken... So... If I were in the OP poster shoes, I'd be REALLY careful. In my country, almost every two days jumps a case of some east European network stopped or hunted, a lot related to human trafficking but also, drugs, et, etc. That's not to demonize a country by its mafias and smugglers, as is just a very small part of the population, even in the worst case/country. Yet so, I'm of the opinion that, anyway, one needs just to grow a thick skin, and be able to detect a scammer in any situation, and smell danger from 2 miles away, very independently of the matter that you are actually travelling to Romania or not. Shit can happen to you at your place, too...The thick skin and the brain working at full is the best defense...
And as a last advice, I'd tell the OP... Just manage to get some more social life (even if the job makes it difficult, there's always a way, I've had very consuming jobs, and I know you can if you propose it to yourself seriously...) in your local place. Meet women who would not demand a single coin from you no matter what. Indeed, I love when they pay my coffee...
I have a sort of sexist male friend who shouts me there that "how do I permit that", haha. (I hope he says it as a joke, though...)
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Hey! Good luck! I'm almost the exact opposite of you sooo I think this is soooo cool! No joke on wishing you a good time! Part of being a human is connecting with people and you seem to be doing well. Don't mind me while I enjoy your reality for a bit--I've had one model say that if she ever comes to the US she would like to meet me and I told her, flat out, I am not that great of a host (which I am not--plus the US is pretty big sooo meeting up would be near impossible) so sorry and I can't do that. I'm not sure if she was trying to make me feel good, but, it was a nice compliment (even though she was drunk when she said it) and I tried to be honest given the drunkiness of situation. Gotta nip that stuff in the bud.
Congrats. Enjoy your time there! Let us all know how it goes!
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I've had three online relationships. Just because I think shit sounds fishy doesn't mean I "don't believe in love," like what?
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You know dude, I doubt there is not a single person on this forum who doesn't wish you well. But if you don't have enough of a sense of humor to accept mild ribbing...well, you really need people wishing you good luck in life.How about u go fuck yourself?
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Be careful...it could be bad, but it could be great. Just make sure that you keep your valuables like your passport under lock and key and watch for the red flags such as her needing money or even stuff when you are there.
Get a hotel room and please let people know where you are and where you are going to be.
Get a hotel room and please let people know where you are and where you are going to be.
It's interesting you only got two kinds of responses. Either it's "you'll get scammed and she'll take your organs" or "love at first sight". I think the most likely possibility is a very disappointing and expensive first date, when you realize reality doesn't match fantasy. I speak from experience. I've personally met four models from Romania. I don't regret meeting them at all. However, when the novelty wore off and these women became people and not just "online models", the experience was much the same as with the women I picked up here, from a bar or a lounge.
Yep, it's quite possible to end up so. (anyway, I already mentioned also the possibility of "just friendship")
Too much money for that, though...Plus... you are sure of what you feel as a pure feeling (even while quite a big part of it might be just platonism, and it happens a lot when you are only 20 ), but maybe for her it means mostly the way to escape a really bad situation,(more than "love", if love would be possible without having shared the same room and air even a second) in terms of money/surviving (indeed, might be thinking so non consciously. And this supposing there's nothing shady in her, doesn't have a boyfriend and/or is part of some little "organized group", specialized in tender sheeps hunting)... Anyway, I keep thinking the hotel advice is solid, besides sth good in any place or situation: watch that nobody poor anything on your drink...wherever you have it.
And I have...not actual friends, but friends who knew them, a pair of cases, two young women not going to Romania, but to South America, they both had placed drug in their suitcases... and I know these women had nothing to do with that(not at the same time, is just I know the 2 stories)... placed by their supposed boyfriends, casually both were very recent (one month or so) relationships...Issue is... In that country (not mentioning so to not give bad fame to it) the issue is mostly jail is quite an infernal place there, and is really hard to get your case in court with some real possibilities of succeeding, and that after maybe years till your case is revised, besides is hard to prove you weren't involved. It happens a lot more than people think. So, a lot of things to watch... Of course, the more you know the country or if you go with people you trust and know it well, you are then safer. I guess we are all giving these advice for the type of situation, not because you are travelling to Romania, at all. My family has been there, and to Bulgaria, and they LOVED both. In my country there's lot of people from there, and while in every country there's always bad people, is always a super small minority. But gotta be very careful and pay a lot of attention to details in certain countries.
Too much money for that, though...Plus... you are sure of what you feel as a pure feeling (even while quite a big part of it might be just platonism, and it happens a lot when you are only 20 ), but maybe for her it means mostly the way to escape a really bad situation,(more than "love", if love would be possible without having shared the same room and air even a second) in terms of money/surviving (indeed, might be thinking so non consciously. And this supposing there's nothing shady in her, doesn't have a boyfriend and/or is part of some little "organized group", specialized in tender sheeps hunting)... Anyway, I keep thinking the hotel advice is solid, besides sth good in any place or situation: watch that nobody poor anything on your drink...wherever you have it.
And I have...not actual friends, but friends who knew them, a pair of cases, two young women not going to Romania, but to South America, they both had placed drug in their suitcases... and I know these women had nothing to do with that(not at the same time, is just I know the 2 stories)... placed by their supposed boyfriends, casually both were very recent (one month or so) relationships...Issue is... In that country (not mentioning so to not give bad fame to it) the issue is mostly jail is quite an infernal place there, and is really hard to get your case in court with some real possibilities of succeeding, and that after maybe years till your case is revised, besides is hard to prove you weren't involved. It happens a lot more than people think. So, a lot of things to watch... Of course, the more you know the country or if you go with people you trust and know it well, you are then safer. I guess we are all giving these advice for the type of situation, not because you are travelling to Romania, at all. My family has been there, and to Bulgaria, and they LOVED both. In my country there's lot of people from there, and while in every country there's always bad people, is always a super small minority. But gotta be very careful and pay a lot of attention to details in certain countries.
I've been to Romania and met two MFC models. I've read through this thread and I haven't seen you mention if she lives in Bucharest or not. That will make a difference. I agree with everyone encouraging you to get a hotel, at least at first. If it's Bucharest I recommend this: http://www.rembrandt.ro/. Last few times I went I got apartments through Airbnb, but the good ones require some advanced planning to get them when you want them. Before you travel enroll in STEP and enter your travel information! https://step.state.gov/step/ You might consider getting a Hep A/B shot. There's a couple blogs in English you could check: http://www.bucharestlife.net/ and http://www.romania-insider.com/.
My trips to Romania were great. The friendships and relationships were not very different from what I've experienced here at home, but I loved traveling to Romania. The only big difference from women here in the USA is that both women were very close to their families, and I think this is more of a rule than you might expect among Romanian cam models.
My trips to Romania were great. The friendships and relationships were not very different from what I've experienced here at home, but I loved traveling to Romania. The only big difference from women here in the USA is that both women were very close to their families, and I think this is more of a rule than you might expect among Romanian cam models.
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OP, there's a lot of mixed views on the subject. Some people (like myself) have gotten played, meanwhile, others have actually had very positive experiences. Each person is different, each relationship between two people is different. So, yours is exclusive to you and this girl by nature. Nobody here can tell you if she's being honest, but we can bring light to just be careful about the whole process and try and keep your feelings, hopes, expectations, etc in check before there's any actual validity on her in the whole meeting process. That's the best I can offer you in terms of advice on this.
Update: so this girl thought it would be a great idea to put on fb that we were in a relationship, long story short funny to say lol but mom didn't believe she was real so messaged like 20 of her friends and her ex and she found out that she is a cam model etc and found the girls boss on Facebook too and now this girl is loosing her job at cam studio today because of this, idk how to react even tho today she was going to quit and cam from home but her ex told my mom that she cheated on him multiple times and that she is a really bad person and pretty much a prostitute. Is a crazy situation unfolding lol
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so your mom started poking around? If so, what are her thoughts on this?Haha we will see
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