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Hey guys,

I hate to gossip or start a negative themed thread but I feel this forum needs to know.

There is a model on mfc that is scamming guys and getting away with it. I've personally seen her scam dozens of guys and repeated attempts at contacting mfc admins to do something about it have resulted in nothing.

Currently her name is HotDareDevil, but she has gone by Curlyq_ in the past. She changes her name every week or so.
First off her profile pics are not of her, which isn't a crime in itself, but should tell you that she's up to something fishy.

I first saw her scamming guys about 3 weeks ago when she was in starbucks and claimed for 1000 tokens she would get naked and play with herself right there. A few guys were suckers and started tipping, but they seemed to disappear after tipping. Once she met her goal she said "ok ready?" then immediately went offline.

A few days later she came back online this time with a different model name and had a Topic like 300 tokens for a skype show or 20 videos. Again guys started tipping and dissappering. So I messaged them and sure enough, she was taking the tokens and then banning them right away. She did this to dozens of guys.

When she wasn't getting any bites for 300 tokens she would lower her topic to 100 tokens or increase what you get for a tip "10 skype shows, panties etc"

Anyway dozens have been scammed, dozens have emailed the admins, and nothing has happened. I am just putting this out there to warn other members and models. If models like this are allowed to operate on MFC it hurts all the legitimate hardworking models. Beyond emailing the admins and letting people know, I don't know what more can be done to stop her. Would a model contacting mfc admins about her make a difference?

Edit - She's also using the sob story that her mom passed away and left her a ton of bills etc etc.


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Sucks, but there are probably 20 models online at any given time pulling the same sort of scam. Not much you can do about it except to not tip models you don't know very well.


Also, if the deal seems too good to be true, it probably is. Private shows on MFC cost 3600 tokens an hour. 200 tokens for an hour-long Skype show? Something fishy going on there.
 
hi,

Yup that's her i can confirm this.Used nicknames currently are indeed

  • curlyQ_
  • HotDareDevil

When i whas in her room she was being threatend by a dozen of premiums she whas a scammer she said to proof i'm not a scammer i'm lowering my tokens limit she did but yet again when received she whas gone.I contacted support to and even though they claim .....

Platinium premium members receive high support (or something like that not logged on to mfc right now)

Nothing is being done.Now i'm a man i won't cry over the 250 tokens she scammed me for but MFC should stand up and at least give her a fine (and provide proof they did so to the scammed members) but in the end all MFC cares about is there money at the end of the month :angry4:.I even belief MFC models are requirerd to have at least 1 picture of themself as there avatar (the one that's displayed on the homepage).Allthough i cannot proof this i think she is being assisted by other premiums (i don't offend anyone here) it's just a thought.I wouldn't be surprised if the videos she is selling are not even from here
 

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blahblahblah feel free to pm so we can have a talk about her she whas online today (night for me so i whas a sleep) i guess the MFC payday comes closer .... I did rated the "session" 0 and in the "comments to admin field" i did typed check the logs but nothing so far.A few days back she came online and i saw her and i pmed her to ask if she buyed coffee with the scammed tokens ....

Bitches likes this should be tied to a wall legs spread and ....... (No offence to any legitimate models intended)
 
what shes doing is totally bitchy but i hate to say this...technically she can totally get away with this
because per mfc rules and tips are gifts and as in real life you cannot take a gift back or expect anything for a gift
i swear its in there somewhere im too lazy to go find and copypaste it but when someone goes apeshit cause i didnt like squirt for 2 tokens(i didnt agee to in the first place) or something and threatens to report me i always refer them to said rule. but dont worry she will never get rich doing this maybe 20 bucks here and there but eventually her reputation will precede her and any money flow she gets will be gone. i think its kind of a bullshit rule but at the same time if it didnt exist mfc admins would be wading through a sea of jackoffs who cried wolf on girls who didnt "give them their moneys worth" and the real scammers would be hard to weed out.
sorry about that though thats really lame what shes doing.
 
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Jaydenrainey said:
what shes doing is totally bitchy but i hate to say this...technically she can totally get away with this
because per mfc rules and tips are gifts and as in real life you cannot take a gift back or expect anything for a gift
i swear its in there somewhere im too lazy to go find and copypaste it but when someone goes apeshit cause i didnt like squirt for 2 tokens(i didnt agee to in the first place) or something and threatens to report me i always refer them to said rule. but dont worry she will never get rich doing this maybe 20 bucks here and there but eventually her reputation will precede her and any money flow she gets will be gone. i think its kind of a bullshit rule but at the same time if it didnt exist mfc admins would be wading through a sea of jackoffs who cried wolf on girls who didnt "give them their moneys worth" and the real scammers would be hard to weed out.
sorry about that though thats really lame what shes doing.


You're right it's in the wiki

Keithy said:
Fools and their money are soon parted.

and your point is ?
 
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I think my point was that fools and their money are soon parted.
I don't see how you missed that.

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Bad, not good, MFC should take action, put her on a black list, etc

All true ... Im scammed also a few times ... I'm a adult with brains ... Unfortunately I have also a dick and a credit card ... And sometimes a girl half my age is the clever one and does get some off my money with a scam ... After a day is passed I can find it funny.
 
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I basically only visit models I know from seeing on here.
I only tip when I expect nothing in return.
If I do expect something, I won't tip someone I don't know.

That said, a way to report models like this would be nice. I mean a way to have something done about models. Even if they just got fined. Heck if they made an escrow payment transfer method for videos and pictures or whatever, that would be great. Perhaps a storefront for selling pictures and videos. Cut the model right out of the picture and just pay her for whatever sells.
 
Keithy said:
I basically only visit models I know from seeing on here.
I only tip when I expect nothing in return.
If I do expect something, I won't tip someone I don't know.

That said, a way to report models like this would be nice. I mean a way to have something done about models. Even if they just got fined. Heck if they made an escrow payment transfer method for videos and pictures or whatever, that would be great. Perhaps a storefront for selling pictures and videos. Cut the model right out of the picture and just pay her for whatever sells.

Scamming like this gives us honest models a bad name.It will also make people that come to MFC think hmm is this what all the other models are like as well goodbye no ty.I hate that this girl needs to be banned and deleted.
 
Keithy said:
I basically only visit models I know from seeing on here.
I only tip when I expect nothing in return.
If I do expect something, I won't tip someone I don't know.

That said, a way to report models like this would be nice. I mean a way to have something done about models. Even if they just got fined. Heck if they made an escrow payment transfer method for videos and pictures or whatever, that would be great. Perhaps a storefront for selling pictures and videos. Cut the model right out of the picture and just pay her for whatever sells.
If I was MFC, I would have a rule saying that if we get multiple reports of a model doing something like this or not delivering what was promised, fines and suspensions will be handed out. But it would have to be a very long pattern of this, which the model in question here seems to have. A couple of days wouldn't suffice. A couple of weeks, maybe even a month of such behavior would be the minimum needed to act.

It just makes good business sense on MFC to not allow such behavior by any model.
 
hi,

She whas online again and i joined as a guest because if she shees my name she knows i recognize her.... ones again same thing this time her goal whas "500 tokens for a public show" she receeived three tips and got more then 500 gone she whas.I don't see why taking actions against such models would require a timefame.
 

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I don't think the rule stating "tips are gifts and nothing should be expected" applies here. This is not a case of a guy tipping 5 tokens and expecting a big public show, or a guy tipping 50 tokens, getting a flash in return and saying "you have to do more for 50 tokens".

She is clearly advertising videos or skype shows or a topic for a specific amount. Guys are tipping that amount and also putting "for videos" or "For skype" in their tip comments, and getting banned.

This is straight up theft.
 
What she's doing is shitty, but unfortunately on a site like this, scams run wild. Its also a two way street - guys scam us models ALL the time (or at least, scam the models who are naive and don't know any better - but then again, the guys who tip models they're not familiar with could be called naive too). Best rule of thumb is to just stick to tipping girls who have a rep for being legit...or at least spend a bit of time in a girls room to feel her out before dropping your hard earned money.
 
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Why doesn't she just spend 20 minutes and do the damn show lol! Is she secretly a prudish scammer who can't bear to get naked?

I agree if enough people complain it's likely there's something wrong but you have to wonder - how can MFC admins actually witness any proof of this stuff in action?

Complaints already come when she's gone, and they must get hundreds if not thousands of ridiculous, semi-literate complaints every day.

So how can they differentiate between SuzyTheWhore who's scamming people and SluttySarah4u who just bans dickheads - they probably both get complaints.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Why doesn't she just spend 20 minutes and do the damn show lol! Is she secretly a prudish scammer who can't bear to get naked?

You took the words right out of my mouth. It almost seems like more work to go set up somewhere, get the tips, then bail. Wouldn't it just be way easier to actually satisfy the people that have decided to help you out? Maybe I'm just too nice.. but I can't stand to not give someone something if they just tip me over 150 tokens or so..
 
Amberfoxxx said:
You took the words right out of my mouth. It almost seems like more work to go set up somewhere, get the tips, then bail. Wouldn't it just be way easier to actually satisfy the people that have decided to help you out? Maybe I'm just too nice.. but I can't stand to not give someone something if they just tip me over 150 tokens or so..


I think part of her ENJOYS ripping guys off, you can see it in her face. She's online RIGHT now
 
AlexAvery said:
How the hell does she get anybody to tip her?!
She's fully clothed, not talking or moving, and has a shitty cam. :think:
And only has like 10 people in her room, half of which are premiums.
 
AlexAvery said:
How the hell does she get anybody to tip her?!
She's fully clothed, not talking or moving, and has a shitty cam. :think:


As mentioned before, she sets these ridiculous goals/topics, so a few guys say "hrmm I'll bite"

Stick around if anyone tips, they will disappear. Then pm him and ask him if he got banned.
 
I heard there's a group that have given MFC charge backs on their credit cards and have been warning people of her scams. Word has it she got 0 tips tonight.
 
Lies.




MyFreeCams wiki said:
I want my tip back.

Our policy is that we do not review or refund tips. Here is why:

Tips are gifts and tipping is an act of generosity. It is not fair to the models to leave a tip and then try to get it back later. It would not be possible in real life and it should not be done here either. If you have a specific request for a model, you should talk to her about it and perhaps invite her to a private show.

We also do not support or review tips for specific acts, or as payment for specific items. We have no way to investigate or verify these "deals".

Therefore: Tip at your own risk!

If you are dissatisfied with a model, please let us know about it, but we will not be able to reverse your tip.
 
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I heard there's a group that have given MFC charge backs on their credit cards and have been warning people of her scams. Word has it she got 0 tips tonight.

I think by chargebacks he means credit card chargebacks aka disputing the charges to mfc, and putting fraud or non delivery of goods or services as the excuse. The credit card company usually favors the customer initially while the investigation is in progress. Enough of these and MFC will start to pay attention.
 
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AlexLady said:

Oh, come on. Since when has MFC ever lived up to anything in their 'rules'?

True that but when you're asking them to do something they're usually lazy, either way I doubt anyone got their tips back.

Also, next time don't tip a model who doesn't have a single comment on her profile.
 
AlexLady said:
Also, next time don't tip a model who doesn't have a single comment on her profile.


It doesn't help when she disables her wall. And the idea behind disputing the charges is not to get your tip back, but to wake up mfc admins
 
Visa/Mastercard don't give a fuck what MFC's policy on token refunds is if a customer can provide some evidence of fraud and doesn't mind admitting they were on a porn site lol.
 
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