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Ok so, I stumbled onto camming one lonely night after a breakup with my high school sweetheart. Didn't really feel good after spending a couple hundred, so I didn't use it for years, until 2-3 years later while recovering from a car accident, I was bored.
Any way, I've noticed some guys being incredibly clueless on this topic, here's my first hand experience and tips.
I am 25, 6ft, black, average body, was upper middle class prior to 2020, now I work in finance. I know some spanish, bits and pieces despite years of spanish class.

-If you are old and or ugly, it's not happening. The exception to this rule is if you have money/influence but then it's not really genuine but transactional.
-It takes longer than 1 chat. Usually you should chat 3-5+ times over a couple days for about 20-30 minutes, non-sexual, getting to know each other, in a fun, non-serious manner. The trick is to make it not feel like you're trying, the conversation should naturally flow if there's some chemistry. Obviously this isn't cheap, especially if the per minute rate is high, so it weeds out a lot of guys from those who are serious and can afford it.
-start small, like a first name. After they are comfortable with you, and say 5-8 chats, try to get the number. Here's the catch, most will shut you down. If that happens, its almost never going to change. If you do get the number, get an instagram/facebook. You can then see if they've been honest with you the whole time, especially since Facebook mines Whatsapp data and will miraculously find the persons Facebook (if they have a different name than what they've told you, move on).
-if they ask for money, move on.
-if they don't text or call before or after work, without you having to ask, move on.

In my opinion, Romanians/Eastern Europeans are better than Colombians in terms of this.
-Eastern European cam girls will 99% time try to milk you for every last penny they can. They take camming as a serious profession much more than the average Colombian. They generally won't give you their name or want to meet you. It's strictly business. But, when they become interested and are into you, they put in 100% effort, and its completely normal. Because some speak english, there isn't much of a language barrier.

-Colombians are easy to talk to and fun. Camming is work but not nearly as serious as Russians and Romanians treat it. They usually don't give their real names but you will have a far easier time getting it and their number than Eastern European women. The catch is they are incredibly flaky. 20% of them think or hope you are so desperate you will give them money for nothing. The rest are cool, but will never message you first, let alone call. Language barrier is real. The exception here is that, things change if/once you are actually in the country/town, a lot of girls open up.

With Eastern Europeans, you know you're most likely getting played, but when you find the right one, you really do hit the jackpot. Less quantity, higher quality. Whereas with Colombians, more quantity, less quality. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

This is pure antidote
-A Colombian girl tracked me down on Skype after a year and said, I'm coming to America!!! I didn't remember her but asked, how and why? She said she was marrying some guy who lived near me. I asked if she loved him, she said no. I laughed my ass off for a solid minute.
-Romanian girl videochats me after work. Apparently my Airbnb in Old Town is like 3-4 blocks from the studio. She's feeling me out to see if what I've said matches up. So many guys lie and build themselves up so they generally fish to figure out whats real and whats bullshit. One girls best friend met her husband on the site and now they have 2 kids together in the UK. So it definitely happens.
 
If you are using camsites as a dating sites, you are going to get hustled hard. And real cute how you talk about women as if they are obtainable objects. 🙄

The OP reads like some PUA bullshit.
 
This is all well and good but what about the American models?

I have a dream that despite living 5000 miles away and having never met me, one of them will go weak at the knees at my irresistible chat and tips. She's compelled to invite me to move to the US and reside with her in the Hollywood Hills. We live happily ever after hanging out with the movie and rock stars on the Sunset Strip.

Would 5-8 chats be enough to get this rolling do you think?
 
How about no. This is their job. Of course they want money, you wanker. And you're just seeking those completely out of your geographical area. What are you actually trying to "date" them for? Free phone sex? Too cheap to actually pay for your entertainment? You sound like a sad stalker going after Facebook to see if they're "lying" about their personal info. Newsflash genius, they're cam models and 99.99% aren't going to use their actual name or they're dumb or already outed before camming.
 
Any way, I've noticed some guys being incredibly clueless on this topic

I was thinking the same thing as I read this post.

-If you are old and or ugly, it's not happening. The exception to this rule is if you have money/influence but then it's not really genuine but transactional.

But in your case it was totally genuine, right? They didn’t care about your tokens once they saw how young and handsome you were, right? They just melted like butter and refused further payment? Wild.

What experience do you have being “old and ugly” to be able to speak with authority about what a person can or cannot achieve in life with these perceived afflictions?

With Eastern Europeans, you know you're most likely getting played, but when you find the right one, you really do hit the jackpot. Less quantity, higher quality. Whereas with Colombians, more quantity, less quality.

This is exploitative, ignorant, and way too general. Also, I can’t help but notice you offer no advice for picking up women that you DON’T already perceive as desperate for money/a new life. If you’re really not as “clueless” as other guys, You wouldn’t have to drastically narrow down your pool of “prospects” to the women you think are under sufficient life pressure to accept your advances out of pure survival instinct. Doesn’t exactly scream Don Juan, to me anyway.

This is pure antidote

I think you meant “anecdote.”
An antidote counters the symptoms of poisoning, which is kind of the exact opposite of what your post has tried to do.
 
-Colombians are easy to talk to and fun. Camming is work but not nearly as serious as Russians and Romanians treat it. They usually don't give their real names but you will have a far easier time getting it and their number than Eastern European women. The catch is they are incredibly flaky. 20% of them think or hope you are so desperate you will give them money for nothing. The rest are cool, but will never message you first, let alone call. Language barrier is real. The exception here is that, things change if/once you are actually in the country/town, a lot of girls open up.

With Eastern Europeans, you know you're most likely getting played, but when you find the right one, you really do hit the jackpot. Less quantity, higher quality. Whereas with Colombians, more quantity, less quality. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

Dude, I think your attitude towards women is pretty off base. A relationship isn't some achievement award for being tall dark and handsome; It's a genuine connection between two people(even ugly people). Your disconnect from understanding a healthy relationship will likely lead you to encounter similarly dysfunctional people. This will only perpetuate the cycle of mistrust and disrespect. My best advice: Pump the brakes on trying to make a relationship out of a transaction and for gods sake stop talking about women like they are objects!
P.S. Comparing women by race is really distasteful. I get that you may not see it as a problem, which is exactly the problem.
 
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reminds me of that 80s song by The Tubes,

Step right up, and don't be shy
Because you will not believe your eyes
She's right here, behind the glass
You're gonna like her 'cause she's got class
You can look inside another world
You get to talk to a pretty girl
She's everything you dream about
But don't fall in love
She's a beauty
(She's one in a million girls)
 
Stop harassing people who are just trying to do theirs jobs.

Generally if a performer is willing to risk their safety and account closure for the chance that you might spend more on them, there is a higher level of need there, and seeking to exploit that makes you a gross creep. I notice you recommend trying this on with EE and Colombian performers, not those in the USA or Canada or other countries where your money isn't as impressive. I wonder why that would be? 🤔
 
Stop harassing people who are just trying to do theirs jobs.

Generally if a performer is willing to risk their safety and account closure for the chance that you might spend more on them, there is a higher level of need there, and seeking to exploit that makes you a gross creep. I notice you recommend trying this on with EE and Colombian performers, not those in the USA or Canada or other countries where your money isn't as impressive. I wonder why that would be? 🤔

This. ^^

I find it super ignorant when anyone describes the models from ANY country as if they share the same characteristics and have no individual identities or life situations.
 
Ok so, I stumbled onto camming one lonely night after a breakup with my high school sweetheart. Didn't really feel good after spending a couple hundred, so I didn't use it for years, until 2-3 years later while recovering from a car accident, I was bored.
Any way, I've noticed some guys being incredibly clueless on this topic, here's my first hand experience and tips.
I am 25, 6ft, black, average body, was upper middle class prior to 2020, now I work in finance. I know some spanish, bits and pieces despite years of spanish class.

-If you are old and or ugly, it's not happening. The exception to this rule is if you have money/influence but then it's not really genuine but transactional.
-It takes longer than 1 chat. Usually you should chat 3-5+ times over a couple days for about 20-30 minutes, non-sexual, getting to know each other, in a fun, non-serious manner. The trick is to make it not feel like you're trying, the conversation should naturally flow if there's some chemistry. Obviously this isn't cheap, especially if the per minute rate is high, so it weeds out a lot of guys from those who are serious and can afford it.
-start small, like a first name. After they are comfortable with you, and say 5-8 chats, try to get the number. Here's the catch, most will shut you down. If that happens, its almost never going to change. If you do get the number, get an instagram/facebook. You can then see if they've been honest with you the whole time, especially since Facebook mines Whatsapp data and will miraculously find the persons Facebook (if they have a different name than what they've told you, move on).
-if they ask for money, move on.
-if they don't text or call before or after work, without you having to ask, move on.

In my opinion, Romanians/Eastern Europeans are better than Colombians in terms of this.
-Eastern European cam girls will 99% time try to milk you for every last penny they can. They take camming as a serious profession much more than the average Colombian. They generally won't give you their name or want to meet you. It's strictly business. But, when they become interested and are into you, they put in 100% effort, and its completely normal. Because some speak english, there isn't much of a language barrier.

-Colombians are easy to talk to and fun. Camming is work but not nearly as serious as Russians and Romanians treat it. They usually don't give their real names but you will have a far easier time getting it and their number than Eastern European women. The catch is they are incredibly flaky. 20% of them think or hope you are so desperate you will give them money for nothing. The rest are cool, but will never message you first, let alone call. Language barrier is real. The exception here is that, things change if/once you are actually in the country/town, a lot of girls open up.

With Eastern Europeans, you know you're most likely getting played, but when you find the right one, you really do hit the jackpot. Less quantity, higher quality. Whereas with Colombians, more quantity, less quality. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

This is pure antidote
-A Colombian girl tracked me down on Skype after a year and said, I'm coming to America!!! I didn't remember her but asked, how and why? She said she was marrying some guy who lived near me. I asked if she loved him, she said no. I laughed my ass off for a solid minute.
-Romanian girl videochats me after work. Apparently my Airbnb in Old Town is like 3-4 blocks from the studio. She's feeling me out to see if what I've said matches up. So many guys lie and build themselves up so they generally fish to figure out whats real and whats bullshit. One girls best friend met her husband on the site and now they have 2 kids together in the UK. So it definitely happens.
Dude..advise from one that has been there...emotion, hook up, love..get the idea..NO PLACE in a cam site. Enjoy your time with a model and use the upper head for balance.
 
OP Stupidity and writing moronic posts like this is ugly. Age has nothing to do with it. Lots of middle aged and older men have a lot of actual real life experience with women and are often better in bed, and are also better at communicating. Because they have actual real world experience getting close with women, and building true bonds past just mere grudging toleration, or being used for a quick bit of mediocre cock. As men age their testosterone evens out a bit , which is why middle aged and older men can often get a lot closer to women, and achieve more real communication and bonding.

Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this thread was meant as a joke, but even then it’s not funny due to the racist exploitative parts. So ... um ... yeah.

I swear that movie idiocracy is becoming true. A bunch of my brain cells committed immediate suicide even trying to read OPs full post. I am so sorry that I put you through that brain cells. R.I.P. ⚰️⚱️
 
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They just melted like butter and refused further payment? Wild.

Mmmm...melted butter. I really, really want some crabs with melted butter. I've been thinking about it all weekend...

crabs.jpg
 
Personally, I take this as to how never ask a woman out. That said, not that anybody is interested, but this crazy obsession over ee and colombian models is really something I will never understand. There, I said it. I'm not talking about models, I'm talking about guys crazy obsessing over them. I don't get why. Is it because they look idk exotic to US guys? Who knows. Have no idea. Also I don't get why being strictly business only is a bad idea.
 
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Personally, I take this as to how never ask a woman out. That said, not that anybody is interested, but this crazy obsession over ee and colombian models is really something I will never understand. There, I said it. I'm not talking about models, I'm talking about guys crazy obsessing over them. I don't get why. Is it because they look idk exotic to US guys? Who knows. Have no idea. Also I don't get why being strictly business only is a bad idea.

I think it's mostly just that they comprise the two huge groups of models on most all of these sites. So they represent two fairly easily distinguished origins of models and there are a ton of them to obsess over for whatever number of guys out there who will tend to do so.

I'm sure there are plenty of US guys who obsess over blonde US models, Asian/Indian, big/small boobs, etc., the numbers just aren't there and in the same way to see them as much.
 
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A lot of men like the idea of a woman from another culture who will be less independent lost without them and will depend on them more.
Sad but true.

This guy could go to a bar anywhere, buy a woman some drinks, and just be a genuine, secure dude.
But he doesn't have the confidence to do that, so he wants to go to a different playing field where he will have less competition, and be considered more of a heavyweight or catch.
He doesn't have what it takes to compete.
I know a lot of people won't like hearing that so bluntly, but I think that is what's behind a lot of this. It really is sad.

That's why I say it's not about looks, age, etc
It is about money and the ability to earn and not leech, but only to a certain degree.
It's about confidence, and a lot of people don't truly have that much genuine confidence.
Seems obvious to me.

ETA; They could be real about it, which would be a lot more attractive, but instead they front and play obvious games...
Unscrupulous people see that clearly and take advantage of it.
Other people who see it, simply pass them by for a safer more secure, and stable bet.
 
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I was thinking the same thing as I read this post.



But in your case it was totally genuine, right? They didn’t care about your tokens once they saw how young and handsome you were, right? They just melted like butter and refused further payment? Wild.

What experience do you have being “old and ugly” to be able to speak with authority about what a person can or cannot achieve in life with these perceived afflictions?



This is exploitative, ignorant, and way too general. Also, I can’t help but notice you offer no advice for picking up women that you DON’T already perceive as desperate for money/a new life. If you’re really not as “clueless” as other guys, You wouldn’t have to drastically narrow down your pool of “prospects” to the women you think are under sufficient life pressure to accept your advances out of pure survival instinct. Doesn’t exactly scream Don Juan, to me anyway.



I think you meant “anecdote.”
An antidote counters the symptoms of poisoning, which is kind of the exact opposite of what your post has tried to do.
Thank god someone corrected that whole antidote thing.
this post is cringy AF. Not a single Camgirl is there to be wooed or picked up. It is genuinely a job, therefor about the cash.
We’re actual people, not an item to be obtained through a specific set of actions gauged by our country of origin.
 
I find it super ignorant when anyone describes the models from ANY country as if they share the same characteristics and have no individual identities or life situations.
Not his fault, he just never dated anyone and so, he can't make accurate stats yet. But don't worry, he's working on it and will adjust it till he's as old and ugly as I am ;)
 
Camsites are for sociability and fun.
I personality cut any contact with anyone who tries to "date".
I personally dislike escorting,sugaring and everything that moves underwater in that world.
DON'T DATE.
 
I fuck+date older men and men who aren't considered conventionally attractive because they have what the OP doesn't - a personality. I hope every cam model y'all try this shit with fleeces you for every fucking penny of the allowance your mommy gave you.

I’m not particularly old, but as I matured, I learned that being attractive is not always the same as being “good-looking.”
 
Man was I wrong, I thought this thread would have been about cam models and their real life relationships/experiences dating in real life 😅
 
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