Camscore ???

[LilyMarie]

What was the original purpose of rating tips, anyway? I never understood that.

I mean, what if someone tipped 90 tokens towards a countdown and the model flashed him her boobs as a thank you, but some random freeloader-douche would have rather seen her ass, so he got all mad and gave the tip a bad rating? What consequence would that have had?

 

[Shaun__]

What was the original purpose of rating tips, anyway? I never understood that.

I mean, what if someone tipped 90 tokens towards a countdown and the model flashed him her boobs as a thank you, but some random freeloader-douche would have rather seen her ass, so he got all mad and gave the tip a bad rating? What consequence would that have had?

While I do not think it ever counted, I believe it was intended to keep the model honest. If I ask a model if she would do something for a tip and she agrees, but then does not do it you could rate your tip accordingly. MFC seems bad about half finishing things though, and never found a way to make it matter. Or else decided they did not care how unhappy a models tippers were as long as she kept pulling in the money.

 

[bob]

What was the original purpose of rating tips, anyway? I never understood that.

I mean, what if someone tipped 90 tokens towards a countdown and the model flashed him her boobs as a thank you, but some random freeloader-douche would have rather seen her ass, so he got all mad and gave the tip a bad rating? What consequence would that have had?

just to clarify....a member could only rate their own tip.....the system couldn't be abused in the way you suggest....the system was designed to reward an interaction with a model that the member enjoyed, but as shaun points out, it never really was developed so that it mattered.....oh well

 

[LilyMarie]

Some time ago I read on ACF that uploading pictures to your profile gets your Camscore a couple of points higher, can anyone tell me if that is [still] true?

 

[Countessa]

The last I heard (or remember hearing, at least) was that it takes roughly 377 tokens per hour to maintain 1000 camscore. Is this still true or are there new numbers floating about?

I was wondering that, too.

Also: Assuming it's 377 tokens for a 1000 camscore, does that mean 1131 (which is 377 x 3) equals a 3000 camscore?
And a 377 * 10 = 3770 equals a 10,000 camscore, etc.?
Is it that easy?...

Keep in mind that the *377* changes daily, even a few times a day by just a bit due to the average TPH* of all models on the site changing all the time. I've seen it as high as the mid 400's and closer to 300, but usually within that range.

But yes, it's pretty much as simple as that.

*Let's just start calling the tokens per hour TPH.

Your TPH over the last 60 days /377 x 1000 = camscore
I just did mine and got it accurate within 100 points! Wow!

 

[AmberCutie]

Some time ago I read on ACF that uploading pictures to your profile gets your Camscore a couple of points higher, can anyone tell me if that is [still] true?

There's no way. Camscore is ONLY about tokens. Ever.

 

[bob]

The last I heard (or remember hearing, at least) was that it takes roughly 377 tokens per hour to maintain 1000 camscore. Is this still true or are there new numbers floating about?

I was wondering that, too.

Also: Assuming it's 377 tokens for a 1000 camscore, does that mean 1131 (which is 377 x 3) equals a 3000 camscore?
And a 377 * 10 = 3770 equals a 10,000 camscore, etc.?
Is it that easy?...

Keep in mind that the *377* changes daily, even a few times a day by just a bit due to the average TPH* of all models on the site changing all the time. I've seen it as high as the mid 400's and closer to 300, but usually within that range.

But yes, it's pretty much as simple as that.

*Let's just start calling the tokens per hour TPH.

Your TPH over the last 60 days /377 x 1000 = camscore
I just did mine and got it accurate within 100 points! Wow!

that's interesting...i never had a way (short of paying WAY too much attention) to know tokens/hour....but i did become interested once in trying to identify "a number" of tokens to maintain a cs from day to day....i know that from my side of the screen, there are really to many variables. ...but i spent some time awhile back performing this exercise in futility...with a model who's camscore had soared the previous couple of months, and then leveled off, owing to the disappearance of the guys with tokens.....i just kept track of mfc time online (roughly...i don't pretend to be a scientist) and total tokens earned + her telling me about any offline tips (fortunately -for my "study" anyway- there weren't enough to worry about)

i ended up with this number for that model: 1.5 times a model's current cs (in tokens) will maintain her cs.....which i immediately doubted because -if true- that meant that top models where bringing in more tokens than i ever imagined.

your numbers gave me a cross check.....her mfc time online (she works multiple sites out of a studio) was about 6 hours/shift, and her cs at the time had levelled off at around 2500, which amounts to a bit over 400 tokens/hour.....is close enough in my book to suggest a correlation.

ok...carry on :lol:

 

[Just Me]

I also, tried one time to figure out a formula for camscore. I did not have the patience or access in the end. The only thing I can contribute is I found that 100 tokens tipped offline equated to about a 10 point increase in camscore. Do not recall the models camscore around that time I was testing this. This was tested when the model was not working for a few weeks.

 

[nzhere]

This is something I did once,

Before a model started using a new "1000" account I offline tipped her 1 token before she has spent even 1 second on cam.

When she started her score was 1002.

 

[Evvie]

This is something I did once,

Before a model started using a new "1000" account I offline tipped her 1 token before she has spent even 1 second on cam.

When she started her score was 1002.

doesn't seem that confusing to me. i think the average starts as soon as the first token is tipped or when the model first logs in; there is no reason to not let her score adjusts before she gets on cam.

 

[ComicOzzie]

Some time ago I read on ACF that uploading pictures to your profile gets your Camscore a couple of points higher, can anyone tell me if that is [still] true?

Only if you click your heels three times while doing so.

 

[Julia_Storm]

Okay I need a little help. I have worked as a Model on MFC for about the last 8 months and I need some input on how to get my camscore higher I think that my camscore right now is about 2300. I have been getting on everyday and I make fairly good money I was wondering why It wont go back up I have had it in the 3000's and it is so hard to get it back up. Plz help I know a few things about it but not everything.
xoxo
Miss Heather

I think u;d better help me...i got my camscore stuck around 1100-1200 for 2 years

 

[nzhere]

What was the original purpose of rating tips, anyway? I never understood that.

I mean, what if someone tipped 90 tokens towards a countdown and the model flashed him her boobs as a thank you, but some random freeloader-douche would have rather seen her ass, so he got all mad and gave the tip a bad rating? What consequence would that have had?

The original "camscore" system was out of 10, models had scores like 9.81 which was probably produced from rating pvts and tips

 

[PinkiePixi]

Im going insane over camscore! It keeps sinking, the rising up a tiny bit, then sinking again! Im perpetually stuck in the high 600-low 700 range! Im trying not to obsess over it, but it certainly is a nagging thought at all times (I couldnt sleep last night because I was worried about it!). Its a bummer with the less people in my room, and I can see why/how girls turn to doing more things in public chat - Im already considering it, and just decided to start Skype pvts - just in an attempt to get my CS up! I could pull my hair out over this if that wasnt likely to make my CS drop even more! :lol:

 

[Just Me]

Be patient as well. The summer months are notorious for not as many tippers.

 

[MilaMilan]

I have written most of my posts on the cam score and I have come to the conclusion that I barely can't give a fuck anymore ....

As long as there are obviously fake cam scores of 52.000 and 118.000 which I see , which would suggest token averages of 30-40.000 an hour and I see the girl with the 52.000 cam score getting 'only' 7000 tokens in 3 full hours ..which is less than I do .. I know the cam score is manipulated can be manipulated and has absolutely nothing to do anymore with the 'success' of a girl..... have a look at my good friend Sh..... she has a cam score ranging from 8000 to 27.000 in sometimes less than 3 months ... up and down ... that has nothing to do with popularity ...Its pure manipulation ...

Can I do it ? Sure I can ... I create a lot of accounts ..thats were we have proxies for and I will have standard 600-800 guys in my room even when I am offline ..... many fans ..boy am I popular.. I go online get my regulars and I am standard at 1200-1400 guys in my room ... top 5 in popular rooms all the time ...but still not making a fuck .. there the self tipping comes in ... I just make a deal ... I buy for $20.000 tokens with a money transfer and pay $0.06 or $0.07 a token .. I get $0.05 back and with an investment of $20.000 I get around 300.000 tokens .. i get back $15.000 .. so with a nett investment of $5000 I can tip myself 300.000 tokens ... I go in only 2 hrs a day let my guys know what I am doing let them tip their real tips in those 2 hrs .. I tip an extra 10.000 a day from myself and at the end of the month boom : 15-20.000 cam rate ... Boy what am I popular .. It cost a bit ... ( $5000) but I am first row .....

The above is the case when I tip myself ...but what when for some very nice reason your studio , pimp, organized structure is willing to bring in that money ...? They tip you with large amounts and you only have to pay them back the $0.05 you get from MFC ....... you dont make any money but Damn your cam rate reaches huge levels ...... Rings a bell ?

Have a look at the top 30 highest cam rates and check the profiles , then check their twitters ( if they have them ) .....and see how incredibly popular those girls are ( some really are : Candie , Amber , Aspen .... no doubt they have a large fan base...and deserve the tokens they make ) ... most are not ..... I will claim that at least 50% of the top 20 of MFC are there because of pure manipulation ...... Is it illegal ? No ..self tipping is allowed ........ when the money comes from studios/structures you must ask yourself what kind of money it is ...before you can answer that question ... see how careful I am 'wording' .....lol

Mila that is a bold statement ! Yes it is .... but I know what I am saying . Do I have anything bad to say about MFC in this ? No ..I don't . Leo is a brilliant manager, has magnificent marketing ideas , the top 20 , top 100 , popular rooms ...all are brilliant ... he has taken camming to new levels and MFC has a lot of sites looking at it with envy.

Should he be blamed for scams, money laundering and manipulation on MFC .... no not really in my opinion as long as he is not part of it (which I don't think he is) ...... It is a business: you want to make money, so you do . Should he be aware of the dangers for this business > the cam industry ? Yes he should as the Cam Industry in general is going there were the online poker sites and casinos have gone in the past years > being raided by the Feds .......

Just my few thoughts ... I am at 6200-6500 now with the cam rate coming from 26.000 ... yet I don't make much less than when I had the 26.000 score ... strange isn't it ... Do I get worried about my cam rate ? No Do i still get annoyed by it ? Hell Yes.... Will I go and tip myself to be nice to my ego ? No way in hell ...It is what it is ....... and what looks like gold is sometimes just metal with a gold thin wrapping ...

 

[Evvie]

I was going to make a post about this earlier today.

I think a lot of people are very worried or upset at the concept of artificially inflated camscores. Honestly, I'm not against it.

High traffic only does so much. If you're already a great model, put on great shows, know how to make your members happy, and are putting in 5 or 6 hours a day on cam or getting on 20 or 25 days out of the month, then maybe all you do need is a little extra exposure.

I know I'm going to get people mad at me for saying this, but the majority of models on MFC are not "good" models. They can't or won't engage the room, they don't know how or won't put on good shows or do engaging privates, they can't or won't do anything to attract tippers - they are not successful, and they would not be successful even if their camscore shot up by 15000 points.

I feel like people are afraid that if rampant camscore inflation happens they will never be able to "honestly" get to the top. Well, I disagree. Rampant camscore inflation already happens on a very large scale. And yet, when our own ladies like SophiaLocke, AmberCutie, LoveScarlett and AedanRayne decide to, they can reliably hit top 20 when they choose. MakaylaDivine joined MFC a few months ago and is now #7 because she puts in long, hard hours and takes MFC seriously.

There are members on MFC who are really just there for a wank and don't care who it's with. They will gravitate towards high camscore rooms and get a sex show, because that tends to be the MO with artificially inflated accounts.

Many more members are on MFC to relax and hang out with models. They look for models they actually like on a personal basis. Does camscore help them find you? Yes, it does. But it's not the end-all, either.

I feel that if many models were given the option of jumping up their camscore by 1000 or 2000 points, they would not say no. Yes, earning your own camscore feels great, but if you have a camscore of 600 and have been working so hard to raise it on your own, would you say no if someone asked if you wanted to increase it to 1600 with no extra effort? Furthermore, independent models who tip themselves aren't getting a "free" boost. They worked for that money and they're reinvesting it in to their accounts. And if that model spends $5000 to give herself a top camscore, if her shows still suck it's not going to do anything for her.

 

[RainbowBryte]

I didn't go on MFC at all for 2 days. My camscore went up 20 points. No offline tips and nobody I talked to has rated any tips.

This thread is pretty overwhelming and I don't know if the "Why does my camscore go up when I'm offline and don't do anything and don't get any tips/rated tips" thing has been addressed. Oh, and I'm new, so I haven't even been on for 60 days, not long enough for a bad day to drop off.

Anyway, I think I've figured it out. MFC hates me and wants me to stay off cam. :roll:

LMAO I have joked about this before! I had a GREAT night camscore went down 20 points took off three days camscore went up over 100 on the 3rd day. I was like is Leo trying to tell me something? lol.

I have also noticed, and it may have been mentioned, but it takes alot more now to maintain a 1000 camscore than it did 6 months ago. Like I used to have a 1300 camscore now it hovers between 900 and a 1000. I have been making less overall but I think that's cuz im terrified to be on too long because of killing camscore, but I averaged it out the other day and really Im actually averaging the same amount per hour as I did when my CS was higher, Im just working less hours because I'm scared of camscore dropping. I have actually started to do MUCH lower priced shows because i figure the boys are quicker to tip because the goal is close at hand, I just have to do two shorter shifts to make the amount i want. But yeah I am making the same amount averaged per hour its just affecting my camscore much more. I think its because top 100 and such has went up so it seems the overall average that they base CS on has changed? Its actually nice to finally realize that though because I had two bad nights and went from 1300 to 900 something and have been pretty hard on myself since . I WILL get it back up though!

 

[MilaMilan]

Thx Evvie for your insights .. I agree for 95% with your post ... Absolutely true if a girl wants to invest $5000 she made into her cam score as a business expense it is her full right to do so as so many girls do in the the top 20 and even top 100 ... Will it help ? As you say : when your shows suck , they still will not tip you and within 60 days that investment and your cam rate will be gone ..... Absolutely right. And it surely is not MFC's fault for allowing it as it is legal.

The problem with all of this is , that hardworking girls looking at the top 20 or even top 100 get a totally wrong image of what in reality is possible with just being focussed making the hours and doing great shows...

Ask Amber if she could be in the top 20 every month if she would go for it monthly ..two years ago and maybe even one year ago the answer would have been yes .... But now? I doubt it that she would say that she could. I think for her being in the top 20 this month ( which I applaude as she is a hardworking model with a large following ) it is costing a lot of strength , effort and investments from her regulars. Top 20 just with hard work and a group of loyal regulars is only possible when you are Jalyn, Aspen or CandieCane and a few others on a stable base and willing to go the extra mile ...

The rest there .....sorry but i know how they do it ...read my book in October and you will see how it is done , and it has only for a very small part to do with self tipping.. Its the other part I talk about ...The one that when you get involved with it (even when you feel that getting a higher cam rate when someone is offering to help but still wants your 50% back is ok) could make you end up in jail. That is what worries me .

I have been offered the option of being top 5 to 10 every month, I just needed to accept the tokens get a great position and at the end of the month I pay back the full $0.05 per token to this modern day Jesus ...... I didn't do it ....His words : you get a good position and the residual tokens you get from your position are yours and you can make a fortune pimping you art , design and videos ........ Sounds good right ?

But me being me: I asked this Jesus of Cam Girls : where does the money come from and why would you do this while you have to buy the tokens at $0.06/$0.07 > whatever happens you lose money on it even with me paying back everything ...... His answer: 'dont worry your pretty head about that darling, its not important ......'

Well to all girls getting similar offers : IT IS FUCKING IMPORTANT that you understand what is being offered here > its called M.................... and you can go to Jail for it for a very very long time ... so saying ' I didn't know ..........' will not help you in court ... as they will tell you what I will tell you now : nobody does anything for free ... when you accept tokens that you know have been bought with money from 'illegal activities' and you pay back one on one to this Cam Girl Jesus you are in fact committing a (federal) crime.

Don't think: I am pretty , they will not do anything against me. They will put you through a trial and you will go to jail where you can perform shows in the shower for a different kind of clientele.

Thats the other side of the inflated cam rates ..... We all know the girls sitting in their room doing nothing or close to nothing getting insane amounts of tokens .... Barely a reaction .... why? Read the above , maybe it gets clearer ....

 

[trishhh]

Few days ago I was talking with one of top girls, still have no idea which one exactly but....anyway...I search own models for my studio for other site and she replied when she got my message, started talking about MFC then (We're from the same country) I told her I am a MFC model too and we've bla bla few mins.. I wanna share with what she told me. When she was starting, she was putting little rates for boobies, like 40-50 and a bit more for pussy..and just flash both for a few seconds. And she told me, that she was working with those little prices for about month and got very popular after that and been miss of march (I think she was talking about march 2012). Hard to believe but I don't think she was lying. I asked, ''ok so what's your camscore now''? She said: ohhh now very low, cuz I haven't been online a while, so only 26,000 LOL! She said that I need many people in my room and it's a very good way to pull them there, if they will see there are so low prices for tits then most of them will tip 4 sure''. so I said, ''well, You must be very pretty if You say it was so easy''..she said ''naaaah, I'm not sexbomb and I don't do nothing special, I'm shy with my english so I never talk, I always use keyboard, I dance sometimes and that's all... now I just come online and they throw tokens for nothing'' lol..

Hmmmm so I don't know. We had to finish conversation fast cuz her bf came in and he doesn't know anything.
What she said yet...hmm...oh! That she already established herself in a new apartment for money earned at MFC lol She must doing really well. She promised to talk to me again when she'll find time. She was happy to find other model from the same country.

Personally, I don't think that most camscores are manipulating... cuz 4 what?? Well, If a girl got connections then probably...yea..maybe...
I think those really high (like 50,000) are real cuz for example.. Once I visted DarlingMegan profile, and checked her print screens with kickass tips...and I don't know she did this intentionally or not..but she left places where it shows how many tokens model got a day...and from 40k-50k-even 80k is hmmm kinda normal for her LOL

 

[Evvie]

Well to all girls getting similar offers : IT IS FUCKING IMPORTANT that you understand what is being offered here > its called M.................... and you can go to Jail for it for a very very long time ... so saying ' I didn't know ..........' will not help you in court ... as they will tell you what I will tell you now : nobody does anything for free ... when you accept tokens that you know have been bought with money from 'illegal activities' and you pay back one on one to this Cam Girl Jesus you are in fact committing a (federal) crime.

I have suspected this has been going on for some time, especially with some accounts that get huge amounts of tips but the model never logs any hours to benefit from a raised camscore.

 

[Evvie]

Also, this:

The problem with all of this is , that hardworking girls looking at the top 20 or even top 100 get a totally wrong image of what in reality is possible with just being focussed making the hours and doing great shows...

 

[ComicOzzie]

Few days ago I was talking with one of top girls, still have no idea which one exactly but....anyway...I search own models for my studio for other site and she replied when she got my message, started talking about MFC then (We're from the same country) I told her I am a MFC model too and we've bla bla few mins.. I wanna share with what she told me. When she was starting, she was putting little rates for boobies, like 40-50 and a bit more for pussy..and just flash both for a few seconds. And she told me, that she was working with those little prices for about month and got very popular after that and been miss of march (I think she was talking about march 2012). Hard to believe but I don't think she was lying. I asked, ''ok so what's your camscore now''? She said: ohhh now very low, cuz I haven't been online a while, so only 26,000 LOL! She said that I need many people in my room and it's a very good way to pull them there, if they will see there are so low prices for tits then most of them will tip 4 sure''. so I said, ''well, You must be very pretty if You say it was so easy''..she said ''naaaah, I'm not sexbomb and I don't do nothing special, I'm shy with my english so I never talk, I always use keyboard, I dance sometimes and that's all... now I just come online and they throw tokens for nothing'' lol..

Hmmmm so I don't know. We had to finish conversation fast cuz her bf came in and he doesn't know anything.
What she said yet...hmm...oh! That she already established herself in a new apartment for money earned at MFC lol She must doing really well. She promised to talk to me again when she'll find time. She was happy to find other model from the same country.

Personally, I don't think that most camscores are manipulating... cuz 4 what?? Well, If a girl got connections then probably...yea..maybe...
I think those really high (like 50,000) are real cuz for example.. Once I visted DarlingMegan profile, and checked her print screens with kickass tips...and I don't know she did this intentionally or not..but she left places where it shows how many tokens model got a day...and from 40k-50k-even 80k is hmmm kinda normal for her LOL

BustyAn was Miss MFC in March 2012 (June also) and this doesn't sound much like the woman I know. She actually started in August of 2010, so it was quite a while before she won her first crown.

 

[trishhh]

Few days ago I was talking with one of top girls, still have no idea which one exactly but....anyway...I search own models for my studio for other site and she replied when she got my message, started talking about MFC then (We're from the same country) I told her I am a MFC model too and we've bla bla few mins.. I wanna share with what she told me. When she was starting, she was putting little rates for boobies, like 40-50 and a bit more for pussy..and just flash both for a few seconds. And she told me, that she was working with those little prices for about month and got very popular after that and been miss of march (I think she was talking about march 2012). Hard to believe but I don't think she was lying. I asked, ''ok so what's your camscore now''? She said: ohhh now very low, cuz I haven't been online a while, so only 26,000 LOL! She said that I need many people in my room and it's a very good way to pull them there, if they will see there are so low prices for tits then most of them will tip 4 sure''. so I said, ''well, You must be very pretty if You say it was so easy''..she said ''naaaah, I'm not sexbomb and I don't do nothing special, I'm shy with my english so I never talk, I always use keyboard, I dance sometimes and that's all... now I just come online and they throw tokens for nothing'' lol..

Hmmmm so I don't know. We had to finish conversation fast cuz her bf came in and he doesn't know anything.
What she said yet...hmm...oh! That she already established herself in a new apartment for money earned at MFC lol She must doing really well. She promised to talk to me again when she'll find time. She was happy to find other model from the same country.

Personally, I don't think that most camscores are manipulating... cuz 4 what?? Well, If a girl got connections then probably...yea..maybe...
I think those really high (like 50,000) are real cuz for example.. Once I visted DarlingMegan profile, and checked her print screens with kickass tips...and I don't know she did this intentionally or not..but she left places where it shows how many tokens model got a day...and from 40k-50k-even 80k is hmmm kinda normal for her LOL

BustyAn was Miss MFC in March 2012 (June also) and this doesn't sound much like the woman I know. She actually started in August of 2010, so it was quite a while before she won her first crown.

It didn't have to be first place. Maybe 2nd or third

 

[MilaMilan]

Comic Ozzie > read my book in October and you will see where her tokens come from, as also the tokens from several other 'top models' who somehow seem to be getting 70-80.000 tokens a day for simply sitting there , doing a 5 min show every so many hours and leaving ... Ask your favorite model what she did with the $80-100.000 she made those months .. Its not visible in her interior .... She bought a Porsche ? Ask your other favorite Sh..... what she did with the $ 1.500.000 - $1.800.000 she supposedly made the last 3 years on MFC .. because I don't see it ... Or maybe she is on a salary Ozzie ?

Why do those models who are supposedly making real money/getting real tokens (when they are top 3 they are making at least $80.000 nowadays) almost all live like students ? And why do some of these models make a small fortune one month and then all of a sudden are gone ...no MFC anymore ...... You want to tell me they have a job that pays them better than the $80-100K they made on MFC ? Tell me were I can sign up , because I am game for that ! Do you get the picture ? I can make it even more graphic but that you can read in my book coming out in October in which I explicitly will show what these 'top models' really make ..where the money is coming from and who the real winners are in this one.

I love the white knights defending the rights of these 'innocent' 'poor' girls , problem is when white knights have double agendas and sometimes get paid themselves you have to ask yourself what are their statements worth ...... let me show you the connections in my book

Tagwords : Money Laundering , gamers, marketing , organized crime , studios , scapegoats, paid room pimps, paid accounts , CC fraud, Epassporte ..... Make the connections ... I did

But then again what do I know I am just a dumb cam whore that speaks 8 languages with a University Degree and an Ex that used to be an International banker who knows all about these subjects and has many contacts in Russia and Romania and an ex BF who more or less lives on MFC and who has shown me the real inside of the Cam Industry without even knowing it and who is at the moment thinking the following : what does that little bitch really know ... well ... to quote some famous words " I know more than I should know ......" the more dangerous part for this mr X and his relations is : I can proof it as well !


PS. Before you start telling me that I hate Romanians and Russians and I am only bashing them: my favorite models on MFC are for a large part Romanian and Russian and I count them as my closest friends.. My biggest girl love is JuliaR > Romanian. My new company CamWorXXX will have a majority of Russian and Romanian models next to US and Asian models. I love Romania and will be there in April - May 2013 visiting friends and meeting models ... I come from Austria and even understand basic Romanian and can read it ... my ex speaks fluent Russian and through him I still have many Russian friends including models .... so before you start with the Mila hates all Romanians/Russians crap so often told .............. just give it a rest ... I hate scams and fake tokens .... that these are concentrated with Romanian-Russian studios/models is not their fault ........ its the situation that creates the opportunity ..

I hear by the way never any comments on the FACTS I mention ..how can a girl that does 7000 tokens in 3 full hours and then logs of keep a 52.000 cam rate ? Explain that one Ozzie ? Or explain to me the miraculous Pinokio_ in the room of your other favorite Sh..... She must be willing to give birth to his love child by now , seeing as he supplies her with 70-80% of her tokens ... Oh wait Pinokio_, Pervy_ (Btarded > referral BAF tokens my ass) ..ahhhh I see the connection ... Lets throw V12 in for good measure as well.... All will be clear soon .....

I am waiting for some big ass offers to keep my mouth shut as the threats so far have not helped , they only make me very very angry ...pffff

 

[Shaun__]

read my book in October

I am looking forward to reading your book, will there be a Kindle version?

 

[trishhh]

@Mila If there is like You saying... but it's stupid! I mean, raise the camscore by themselves lol.. What does it change?? What is so great about very hight camscore? (''Look, I am popular'' ??) lol Come onnn..! Stupid 5,000 is enought to make an avatar well visible. Anyway, this job base on regulars, not camscore. Now I got 1,600. Do You think I would imidiately start earn alot more if I could change it just like that to 10,000? NO. It's about regulars, not fucking scores.

You said, many of them live like students. LOL. Well. If a girl (model) don't tell anybody about her job (90% of them don't) then how she could buy let's say a car worth 20k$ ??
I don't have any other job. Just cam modeling. Ppl (especially parents) know I use internet to earn money but they have no idea it is something like THIS! ..and even If I buy stupid cell phone, my mom ask me all day where I got money for that lol.

 

[LilyMarie]

What is so great about very hight camscore? (''Look, I am popular'' ??) lol Come onnn..! Stupid 5,000 is enought to make an avatar well visible.

For many girls, 5000 is probably not enough. They want to be in the top row to get more exposure than you get with a 5k camscore.

Now I got 1,600. Do You think I would imidiately start earn alot more if I could change it just like that to 10,000?

Yes, of course, unless you're a bad model. With a camscore of 10k, your avatar would be in the 1st row, rather than in the 6th or 7th (just guessing here). You would have much more members in your room, which means your countdowns would be finished faster. My camscore recently dropped from 4150 to about 2750 really fast and I can definitely feel it in my tokens per hour. And that's just from a difference of 1400 camscore points, not 8400.

You said, many of them live like students. LOL. Well. If a girl (model) don't tell anybody about her job (90% of them don't) then how she could buy let's say a car worth 20k$ ??
I don't have any other job. Just cam modeling. Ppl (especially parents) know I use internet to earn money but they have no idea it is something like THIS! ..and even If I buy stupid cell phone, my mom ask me all day where I got money for that lol.

I'm not sure where you get the 90% from, but the models who can easily afford a new car just like that have probably already told their parents that they're making good money. Either that, or their parents just don't care where the money is coming from.

 

[MilaMilan]

Trishhhh darling , first of all you must be a relatively new model on MFC otherwise you would not be saying what you are saying ...LilyMarie says the important things ... It doesn't matter if you have 10.000 or a 5.000 cam rate ? Darling it does .. I have been on MFC 3 (!!!!) years I know it inside out and having a cam rate above 10.000 makes you a lot more money than having a 6.000 cam rate than I have now .. I compensate with hours......

You are a new member to Ambers forum ( registered 31-8) , maybe read a few of my posts from 2 years ago.....

I hear you talking about the cam rate ... Why not talk to me about the other statements I make ...You seem to know B...A.....quite well ...
You really think she is making $80-100.000 in those #1 months and can hide that kind of money because 90% doesn't tell their parents what they do ? My Romanian friends tell me something totally different, most Romanians know what young pretty girls do on Cam ...Its the best paid job in the country for a 18-30 year old .... and nothing to be ashamed of. I would love to know if you are studio based or independent and what your model name is .... and if your interest in this specific topic as the first topic to react on is coming from you yourself ? If so, very good ... if not try to ask the ones steering you what the reason could be for discrediting what I say ... as the nice thing about what I say is : I can actually proof it.

 

[Alana Cruise]

well said Mila Milan. I have been on MFC about 10 months. I have come to realize the many scamscores and what some may be doing to get them. I know for me it is a struggle to keep my score up. I am woking hard ot barely stay about 5000 and I still have to go on early when I can be in top 2 rows otherwise i do not make nearly enough to make topics/goals.

Also, I am 31, am I too old to cam (you said 18-30) lol I plan on camming for at least a few more years.