The average camscore on MyCamgirl takes into account only the camscores of the models that have been online in the past 6 months (45,365 models). Maybe I should consider only the last 3 months. It would make more sense.LilyMarie said:So the average camscore is actually 1000? Mycamgirl.net says it's 868.AmberCutie said:The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.
[ -70 ; -60 [ => 1 (0%)
[ 0 ; 1000 [ => 2008 (4.43%)
[ 100 ; 200 [ => 3370 (7.43%)
[ 200 ; 300 [ => 4274 (9.42%)
[ 300 ; 400 [ => 4469 (9.85%)
[ 400 ; 500 [ => 4270 (9.41%)
[ 500 ; 600 [ => 3910 (8.62%)
[ 600 ; 700 [ => 3547 (7.82%)
[ 700 ; 800 [ => 3447 (7.6%)
[ 800 ; 900 [ => 3473 (7.66%)
[ 900 ; 1000 [ => 4173 (9.2%)
[ 1000 ; 2000 [ => 5647 (12.45%)
[ 2000 ; 3000 [ => 1373 (3.03%)
[ 3000 ; 4000 [ => 569 (1.25%)
[ 4000 ; 5000 [ => 302 (0.67%)
[ 5000 ; 6000 [ => 181 (0.4%)
[ 6000 ; 7000 [ => 103 (0.23%)
[ 7000 ; 8000 [ => 72 (0.16%)
[ 8000 ; 9000 [ => 57 (0.13%)
[ 9000 ; 10000 [ => 31 (0.07%)
[ 10000 ; 11000 [ => 19 (0.04%)
[ 11000 ; 12000 [ => 18 (0.04%)
[ 12000 ; 13000 [ => 9 (0.02%)
[ 13000 ; 14000 [ => 11 (0.02%)
[ 14000 ; 15000 [ => 8 (0.02%)
[ 15000 ; 16000 [ => 8 (0.02%)
[ 16000 ; 17000 [ => 7 (0.02%)
[ 17000 ; 18000 [ => 6 (0.01%)
20 models (0.04%) have a camscore equal or greater than 18,000
Whatever camscore you have, you get paid the same amount per token. Read MFC Token Conversions. On MFC you can't set your rates for private chats. Members pay either 60 tokens/min for normal privates or 80 tokens/min true privates. A good camscore gives you more exposure.katrina4you said:Does anyone have an idea what the camscore break points are for getting paid more? or are you just saying... given you have a higher camscore, you can feel comfortable ASKING for higher token amounts for private shows, for example? Does MFC actually pay out a higher rate at some point(s) ?
katrina4you said:Okay, well top 20 is pretty much impossible for me.
Does anyone have an idea what the camscore break points are for getting paid more? or are you just saying... given you have a higher camscore, you can feel comfortable ASKING for higher token amounts for private shows, for example? Does MFC actually pay out a higher rate at some point(s) ? If not, I guess I still don't see any big deal... more often than not, MFC is just recruitment for skype for most of my guys anyway. I figure if a guy likes what he sees, he's going to pay for it, whatever the camscore is. Now, if you're saying MFC is paying out a higher rate for higher camscore models (aside from some kind of bonuses for being highly ranked)... then that's a different story... and I'd like to know when those higher rates kick in at.
Thanks!
MyCamgirl said:The average camscore on MyCamgirl takes into account only the camscores of the models that have been online in the past 6 months (45,365 models). Maybe I should consider only the last 3 months. It would make more sense.
Of course this will change in the next hours, but here is how the camscores are distributed right now. Also considering only models online in the past 6 months.
Code:[ -70 ; -60 [ => 1 (0%) [ 0 ; 1000 [ => 2008 (4.43%) [ 100 ; 200 [ => 3370 (7.43%) [ 200 ; 300 [ => 4274 (9.42%) [ 300 ; 400 [ => 4469 (9.85%) [ 400 ; 500 [ => 4270 (9.41%) [ 500 ; 600 [ => 3910 (8.62%) [ 600 ; 700 [ => 3547 (7.82%) [ 700 ; 800 [ => 3447 (7.6%) [ 800 ; 900 [ => 3473 (7.66%) [ 900 ; 1000 [ => 4173 (9.2%) [ 1000 ; 2000 [ => 5647 (12.45%) [ 2000 ; 3000 [ => 1373 (3.03%) [ 3000 ; 4000 [ => 569 (1.25%) [ 4000 ; 5000 [ => 302 (0.67%) [ 5000 ; 6000 [ => 181 (0.4%) [ 6000 ; 7000 [ => 103 (0.23%) [ 7000 ; 8000 [ => 72 (0.16%) [ 8000 ; 9000 [ => 57 (0.13%) [ 9000 ; 10000 [ => 31 (0.07%) [ 10000 ; 11000 [ => 19 (0.04%) [ 11000 ; 12000 [ => 18 (0.04%) [ 12000 ; 13000 [ => 9 (0.02%) [ 13000 ; 14000 [ => 11 (0.02%) [ 14000 ; 15000 [ => 8 (0.02%) [ 15000 ; 16000 [ => 8 (0.02%) [ 16000 ; 17000 [ => 7 (0.02%) [ 17000 ; 18000 [ => 6 (0.01%) 20 models (0.04%) have a camscore equal or greater than 18,000
Private and truprivate are two different types of private show. one is 60/per minute the other is 80/per minute.katrina4you said:Well mycamgirl, MFC doesn't allow different rates for private... but a model can certainly require a tip before going private.
With regards to camscore... unless you're among those very highest scored to benefit from placement, I personally don't think it's worth worrying about.
Personally, I think the tag keywords you pick have a bigger impact on visibility (granted sorted by camscore as well, but) If you don't have a good selection of tags, they're not going to find you anyway. I see beautiful models all the time who sit there by themselves because they've poorly selected tags, no one can find them. Most of my guys say they found me via a tag search.
katrina4you said:Well mycamgirl, MFC doesn't allow different rates for private... but a model can certainly require a tip before going private.
With regards to camscore... unless you're among those very highest scored to benefit from placement, I personally don't think it's worth worrying about.
Personally, I think the tag keywords you pick have a bigger impact on visibility (granted sorted by camscore as well, but) If you don't have a good selection of tags, they're not going to find you anyway. I see beautiful models all the time who sit there by themselves because they've poorly selected tags, no one can find them. Most of my guys say they found me via a tag search.
Trudat! Last time I calculated mine I was within 150 points. I hadn't been on MFC few a few days though, next time I logged in it refreshed and I was within 50 points.ElaySmith said:Double Post!
Im in a bitch mood so forgive me! There are tons of valuable info in this thread, READ IT, Amber has even gone as far as to tell us how to calculate camscore to within a few hunderd points (maybe closer?). Id say this is a pretty accurate calculation and when Amber and many other girls can calculate there camscore to within a few points Id say they have it pretty much figured out. Us girls realize you guy's are fixers and want to help but I think the camscore debate on how it is calculated is pretty much under control....we have figured it out, we've "won" :lol: The variable in camscore has more to do with what other models make per hour not some hidden agenda on MFC's part. MFC only wants to make it seem complicated, its really not.
katrina4you said:I'd guess that there's a LOT of gals there who aren't even active any longer. I think mycamgirl should even shrink the 'window' down to a couple of months to give a more accurate reflection of where we stand.
And I guess I'll just put it this way where camscore is concerned. For those VAST majority of (active) girls in the 1,000 to 2,000 range (like me)... tags make a world of difference. Example... popular keyword 'MILF'... if I were on there right now... I'd be among the top girls coming back with my paltry score of 1600 something. For those guys just 'browsing'... they're likely never going to find me anyway. For those girls in my camscore range with poorly chosen keywords... they're really never going to be found.
See my point? You can work your butt off and still have a low camscore... but if you choose the right tag keywords, you can still be found by those many guys who are searching for tags.
Miss_Lollipop said:When I perv, I don't search by tags. I look at 2 things - the most popular room list, my friends list and whats right in front of my face. The girls in front of my face, are the ones with the higher scores.
You are incorrect. Amber has been working on the math for years.bob said:LilyMarie said:I'm sorry for asking a dumb question, then. (The 'Is 1000 or 868 the average camscore?' one.)
I was honestly wondering and couldn't figure it out from the last 3 pages that I reread before asking.
there are no dumb questions when it comes to cs, imo.....i've seen it go up when a model has a bad day and the other way 'round.
as concise and accurate as amber's definition is, as much math as i've seen applied to it to help clarify it.....those things just point to a drop of mercury in a petri dish
you can't pick it up and hold it, and if you spend to much time trying, it can poison your entire attitude.
yeah, the higher it is, the better, and it can be kind of hypnotic, because it's so shiny and fluid on site....but you can't spend it
:twocents-02cents:
This was JUST posted on the page right before this. It's the last time I'm going to repeat it.AmberCutie said:Of course it aint THAT simple, but if you read my previous posts in this thread it makes more sense.bob said:AmberCutie said:7k tokens in 4 hours is better TPH than 9k tokens in 6 hours. It's all math, this scenario makes sense.trishhh said:On friday I raised over 7k tokens in 4 hrs and my camscore jumped 100 points more, yesterday I raised over 9k tokens in 6 hrs and it jumped only 20 :///
THIS IS SHIT!
TPH is Tokens Per Hour. TPH is what camscore is based on.
:whistle:
if it were that simple, then friday (1750 tph = 100 point rise in cs) would translate to saturday (1500 thp = x point rise in cs) would mean x outta equal an 85 point rise in cs.......
it ain't that simple
:twocents-02cents:
but yeah, trishh....you made some good bank....the cs will eventually sort itself out
it's only shit if you stop to smell it
It's starting to drive me batty that models (and members) come in here day after day with their OMG I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY CAMSCORE DID THIS posts without having read the last 5-10 pages or so of this thread, which would explain a lot of it.
I'll type it again.
Camscore is based off of TPH (tokens per hour) over a 60-day average, as well as the average of the TPH of all models on the site. The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.
ESTROGEN IS ALWAYS AGGRAVATEDSoTxBob said:I smell aggravated estrogen.....
Evvie said:You are incorrect. Amber has been working on the math for years.bob said:LilyMarie said:I'm sorry for asking a dumb question, then. (The 'Is 1000 or 868 the average camscore?' one.)
I was honestly wondering and couldn't figure it out from the last 3 pages that I reread before asking.
there are no dumb questions when it comes to cs, imo.....i've seen it go up when a model has a bad day and the other way 'round.
as concise and accurate as amber's definition is, as much math as i've seen applied to it to help clarify it.....those things just point to a drop of mercury in a petri dish
you can't pick it up and hold it, and if you spend to much time trying, it can poison your entire attitude.
yeah, the higher it is, the better, and it can be kind of hypnotic, because it's so shiny and fluid on site....but you can't spend it
:twocents-02cents:
Models who have access to their own stats can always correctly calculate their camscore. While you can watch them or look up their stats, that information is not 100% accurate (MGF has underreported my time online by hours in a single shift and it lags behind by a day or two). Only the model knows her exact minutes online and total tokens earned.
It may seem like a huge mystery, but it is not. The only reason it is confusing you is because you watch a shift or two of a model, don't time it, don't count her tokens, aren't able to see her offline tips, can't calculate the effect of groups or privates, and haven't bothered to try with the math.
Dozens of models on ACF have done the math themselves, with no other factors, and have reported it to be very accurate. The last time I calculated my score I got it within 1 point. There is no secret mystery conspiracy here. The equation is correct, you just don't understand it because you don't have access to the variables.
AmberCutie said:I'll type it again.
Camscore is based off of TPH (tokens per hour) over a 60-day average, as well as the average of the TPH of all models on the site. The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.
This was JUST posted on the page right before this. It's the last time I'm going to repeat it.
I think it's a good idea for people to be able to ask questions, just as long as nobody pops in and says "no, this equation is incorrect, I believe camscore is also affected by how many words are on your profile."katrina4you said:Start a new sticky thread called 'How is camscore calculated?' ... make it read only... no need to delete any posts.
Evvie said:I think it's a good idea for people to be able to ask questions, just as long as nobody pops in and says "no, this equation is incorrect, I believe camscore is also affected by how many words are on your profile."katrina4you said:Start a new sticky thread called 'How is camscore calculated?' ... make it read only... no need to delete any posts.