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Okay, well top 20 is pretty much impossible for me.

Does anyone have an idea what the camscore break points are for getting paid more? or are you just saying... given you have a higher camscore, you can feel comfortable ASKING for higher token amounts for private shows, for example? Does MFC actually pay out a higher rate at some point(s) ? If not, I guess I still don't see any big deal... more often than not, MFC is just recruitment for skype for most of my guys anyway. I figure if a guy likes what he sees, he's going to pay for it, whatever the camscore is. Now, if you're saying MFC is paying out a higher rate for higher camscore models (aside from some kind of bonuses for being highly ranked)... then that's a different story... and I'd like to know when those higher rates kick in at.

Thanks!
 
LilyMarie said:
AmberCutie said:
The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.
So the average camscore is actually 1000? Mycamgirl.net says it's 868.
The average camscore on MyCamgirl takes into account only the camscores of the models that have been online in the past 6 months (45,365 models). Maybe I should consider only the last 3 months. It would make more sense.

Of course this will change in the next hours, but here is how the camscores are distributed right now. Also considering only models online in the past 6 months.

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[   -70 ; -60   [ => 1     (0%)
[     0 ; 1000  [ => 2008  (4.43%)
[   100 ; 200   [ => 3370  (7.43%)
[   200 ; 300   [ => 4274  (9.42%)
[   300 ; 400   [ => 4469  (9.85%)
[   400 ; 500   [ => 4270  (9.41%)
[   500 ; 600   [ => 3910  (8.62%)
[   600 ; 700   [ => 3547  (7.82%)
[   700 ; 800   [ => 3447  (7.6%)
[   800 ; 900   [ => 3473  (7.66%)
[   900 ; 1000  [ => 4173  (9.2%)
[  1000 ; 2000  [ => 5647  (12.45%)
[  2000 ; 3000  [ => 1373  (3.03%)
[  3000 ; 4000  [ => 569   (1.25%)
[  4000 ; 5000  [ => 302   (0.67%)
[  5000 ; 6000  [ => 181   (0.4%)
[  6000 ; 7000  [ => 103   (0.23%)
[  7000 ; 8000  [ => 72    (0.16%)
[  8000 ; 9000  [ => 57    (0.13%)
[  9000 ; 10000 [ => 31    (0.07%)
[ 10000 ; 11000 [ => 19    (0.04%)
[ 11000 ; 12000 [ => 18    (0.04%)
[ 12000 ; 13000 [ => 9     (0.02%)
[ 13000 ; 14000 [ => 11    (0.02%)
[ 14000 ; 15000 [ => 8     (0.02%)
[ 15000 ; 16000 [ => 8     (0.02%)
[ 16000 ; 17000 [ => 7     (0.02%)
[ 17000 ; 18000 [ => 6     (0.01%)

20 models (0.04%) have a camscore equal or greater than 18,000
Negative camscore? Yep! I checked the model's profile and indeed she has a negative camscore of -68.600. It is either a glitch on how MFC calculates it or she got fined, hence losing enough tokens to have a negative camscore.

katrina4you said:
Does anyone have an idea what the camscore break points are for getting paid more? or are you just saying... given you have a higher camscore, you can feel comfortable ASKING for higher token amounts for private shows, for example? Does MFC actually pay out a higher rate at some point(s) ?
Whatever camscore you have, you get paid the same amount per token. Read MFC Token Conversions. On MFC you can't set your rates for private chats. Members pay either 60 tokens/min for normal privates or 80 tokens/min true privates. A good camscore gives you more exposure.
 
katrina4you said:
Okay, well top 20 is pretty much impossible for me.

Does anyone have an idea what the camscore break points are for getting paid more? or are you just saying... given you have a higher camscore, you can feel comfortable ASKING for higher token amounts for private shows, for example? Does MFC actually pay out a higher rate at some point(s) ? If not, I guess I still don't see any big deal... more often than not, MFC is just recruitment for skype for most of my guys anyway. I figure if a guy likes what he sees, he's going to pay for it, whatever the camscore is. Now, if you're saying MFC is paying out a higher rate for higher camscore models (aside from some kind of bonuses for being highly ranked)... then that's a different story... and I'd like to know when those higher rates kick in at.

Thanks!

Its not necessarily that camscore=more money but the girls with higher cam scores earn more money per hour on average. Some girls with high cam scores only work a few days a week for a couple of hours per day therefore there token/time online ratio is higher generating a higher cam score. Some girls with lower cam scores work many hours per day and actually earn more money but they just have a lower token per hour ratio making there cam score lower. The main benefit of having a higher cam score is better placement on the homepage, which in turn generates more traffic and hopefully more tokens.

A perfect example is me...I only work MFC maybe 1-2 days per week on average for an hour or 2 per day. Last time I checked my camscore was around 4500 (was up to 6000+ before I took my last month+ break). When I worked MFC full time I worked 6+hr days 5+ days per week and my camscore stayed around 4500-5300. I made way more money when I worked many hours but my tokens per hour average is up because I only work a few hours a week now which means my camscore will go up even though I make less money.

MFC never pays you more, you will always receive $.05 per token no matter what your camscore.
 
Well mycamgirl, MFC doesn't allow different rates for private... but a model can certainly require a tip before going private. ;)

With regards to camscore... unless you're among those very highest scored to benefit from placement, I personally don't think it's worth worrying about.

Personally, I think the tag keywords you pick have a bigger impact on visibility (granted sorted by camscore as well, but) If you don't have a good selection of tags, they're not going to find you anyway. I see beautiful models all the time who sit there by themselves because they've poorly selected tags, no one can find them. Most of my guys say they found me via a tag search.
 
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MyCamgirl said:
The average camscore on MyCamgirl takes into account only the camscores of the models that have been online in the past 6 months (45,365 models). Maybe I should consider only the last 3 months. It would make more sense.

Of course this will change in the next hours, but here is how the camscores are distributed right now. Also considering only models online in the past 6 months.

Code:
[   -70 ; -60   [ => 1     (0%)
[     0 ; 1000  [ => 2008  (4.43%)
[   100 ; 200   [ => 3370  (7.43%)
[   200 ; 300   [ => 4274  (9.42%)
[   300 ; 400   [ => 4469  (9.85%)
[   400 ; 500   [ => 4270  (9.41%)
[   500 ; 600   [ => 3910  (8.62%)
[   600 ; 700   [ => 3547  (7.82%)
[   700 ; 800   [ => 3447  (7.6%)
[   800 ; 900   [ => 3473  (7.66%)
[   900 ; 1000  [ => 4173  (9.2%)
[  1000 ; 2000  [ => 5647  (12.45%)
[  2000 ; 3000  [ => 1373  (3.03%)
[  3000 ; 4000  [ => 569   (1.25%)
[  4000 ; 5000  [ => 302   (0.67%)
[  5000 ; 6000  [ => 181   (0.4%)
[  6000 ; 7000  [ => 103   (0.23%)
[  7000 ; 8000  [ => 72    (0.16%)
[  8000 ; 9000  [ => 57    (0.13%)
[  9000 ; 10000 [ => 31    (0.07%)
[ 10000 ; 11000 [ => 19    (0.04%)
[ 11000 ; 12000 [ => 18    (0.04%)
[ 12000 ; 13000 [ => 9     (0.02%)
[ 13000 ; 14000 [ => 11    (0.02%)
[ 14000 ; 15000 [ => 8     (0.02%)
[ 15000 ; 16000 [ => 8     (0.02%)
[ 16000 ; 17000 [ => 7     (0.02%)
[ 17000 ; 18000 [ => 6     (0.01%)

20 models (0.04%) have a camscore equal or greater than 18,000

wow....thank you.....we hear so many questions and answers surrounding "how cs is calculated"....to my way of looking at it, those concerns have little meaning (probably because i REALLY tried to make sense of it for while :lol: )

the distribution of cs, however, does...and it says simply that if a models is over 1000 point, she's one of the top 12% of the earners on site.....i don't know "upper middle class" from "rich" in the global economy, but the 88% is one of those, that's for sure.

and like the global economy, the "super rich" are an elite few, that generate 80-90% of all news and entertainment, and the bulk of all income.
 
katrina4you said:
Well mycamgirl, MFC doesn't allow different rates for private... but a model can certainly require a tip before going private. ;)

With regards to camscore... unless you're among those very highest scored to benefit from placement, I personally don't think it's worth worrying about.

Personally, I think the tag keywords you pick have a bigger impact on visibility (granted sorted by camscore as well, but) If you don't have a good selection of tags, they're not going to find you anyway. I see beautiful models all the time who sit there by themselves because they've poorly selected tags, no one can find them. Most of my guys say they found me via a tag search.
Private and truprivate are two different types of private show. one is 60/per minute the other is 80/per minute.
You seem to be confused by many basic things within MFC workings and payments. I actually would suggest that you take some time and re read the Wiki. http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Instruc ... for_Models
If only for your own benefit. How can you expect to make the best of the site you work on if you don't understand how 90% of it works?

I'm really not meaning this to be rude.
 
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Well mycamgirl, MFC doesn't allow different rates for private... but a model can certainly require a tip before going private. ;)

With regards to camscore... unless you're among those very highest scored to benefit from placement, I personally don't think it's worth worrying about.

Personally, I think the tag keywords you pick have a bigger impact on visibility (granted sorted by camscore as well, but) If you don't have a good selection of tags, they're not going to find you anyway. I see beautiful models all the time who sit there by themselves because they've poorly selected tags, no one can find them. Most of my guys say they found me via a tag search.

Tags may have some effect but if you ever let your camscore get low enough to get off the first page you will see what were talking about. CAMSCORE is a big factor whether we like it or not and having good placement does bring in more people. Ive fluctuated between a 6k+ to mid 3k and I can tell a huge difference when my camscore gets lower.

You can be the most awesome person in the world but if pervs can't find you then you will set in an empty room (tags may help but I don't believe they do nearly as much as CS). Being visable to new members who are just fumbling around on the site is a great way to retain NEW regulars. New pervs aren't aware of all the in's and out's of MFC and Id put money on the fact that most of them just flip through the models as they are listed on the homepage until they come across somebody that strikes their fancy.

Also Im not saying lower camscore models aren't/can't be awesome (JJ is proof-she commited CS suicide and has raised hers back up but no matter what her score was/is she is always awesome :oops: ) just that a lot of people overlook the awesomeness that lower CS models have because of the system MFC has set up. Don't stress over it but don't overlook it either.
 
I'd guess that there's a LOT of gals there who aren't even active any longer. I think mycamgirl should even shrink the 'window' down to a couple of months to give a more accurate reflection of where we stand.

And I guess I'll just put it this way where camscore is concerned. For those VAST majority of (active) girls in the 1,000 to 2,000 range (like me)... tags make a world of difference. Example... popular keyword 'MILF'... if I were on there right now... I'd be among the top girls coming back with my paltry score of 1600 something. For those guys just 'browsing'... they're likely never going to find me anyway. For those girls in my camscore range with poorly chosen keywords... they're really never going to be found.

See my point? You can work your butt off and still have a low camscore... but if you choose the right tag keywords, you can still be found by those many guys who are searching for tags.
 
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Double Post!

Im in a bitch mood so forgive me! There are tons of valuable info in this thread, READ IT, Amber has even gone as far as to tell us how to calculate camscore to within a few hunderd points (maybe closer?). Id say this is a pretty accurate calculation and when Amber and many other girls can calculate there camscore to within a few points Id say they have it pretty much figured out. Us girls realize you guy's are fixers and want to help but I think the camscore debate on how it is calculated is pretty much under control....we have figured it out, we've "won" :lol: The variable in camscore has more to do with what other models make per hour not some hidden agenda on MFC's part. MFC only wants to make it seem complicated, its really not.
 
ElaySmith said:
Double Post!

Im in a bitch mood so forgive me! There are tons of valuable info in this thread, READ IT, Amber has even gone as far as to tell us how to calculate camscore to within a few hunderd points (maybe closer?). Id say this is a pretty accurate calculation and when Amber and many other girls can calculate there camscore to within a few points Id say they have it pretty much figured out. Us girls realize you guy's are fixers and want to help but I think the camscore debate on how it is calculated is pretty much under control....we have figured it out, we've "won" :lol: The variable in camscore has more to do with what other models make per hour not some hidden agenda on MFC's part. MFC only wants to make it seem complicated, its really not.
Trudat! Last time I calculated mine I was within 150 points. I hadn't been on MFC few a few days though, next time I logged in it refreshed and I was within 50 points.
Not much to argue here.

Also, thanks Elay! Tags have not actually been around very long on MFC. I do agree they have made it easier to find niche markets on MFC but are not necessarily going to make or break a girl. I brought my score up from about 550 LONG before tags existed.
The calculation is simple but it's also based on a 60 day average. Freaking out because the camscore didn't do what you expected it to based on a single token earning day is silly. Some days it doesn't update, kind of "freezes" other days it will update 20 times or play catch up. In the end the 60 day is all that matters.
 
katrina4you said:
I'd guess that there's a LOT of gals there who aren't even active any longer. I think mycamgirl should even shrink the 'window' down to a couple of months to give a more accurate reflection of where we stand.

And I guess I'll just put it this way where camscore is concerned. For those VAST majority of (active) girls in the 1,000 to 2,000 range (like me)... tags make a world of difference. Example... popular keyword 'MILF'... if I were on there right now... I'd be among the top girls coming back with my paltry score of 1600 something. For those guys just 'browsing'... they're likely never going to find me anyway. For those girls in my camscore range with poorly chosen keywords... they're really never going to be found.

See my point? You can work your butt off and still have a low camscore... but if you choose the right tag keywords, you can still be found by those many guys who are searching for tags.

Men are usually visual creatures. When you first come into MFC as a guest, or when you first sign up - your models are sorted by camscore until you start messing with it (which usually takes most guys a lil time to figure out).

When I perv, I don't search by tags. I look at 2 things - the most popular room list, my friends list and whats right in front of my face. The girls in front of my face, are the ones with the higher scores.

You say you're getting higher room counts with your tags and that's awesome. I also get a lot of guys finding me with my BDSM/fetish related tags. But that is limited.

However, when I had a 1-3000 camscore 100-200 was as high as my room count ever got.
Now that I have a 7000 camscore on a day shift if I'm having a good show my room count can get up to and beyond 2000.

That's 1800 more members who are seeing me, could tip me, add me to their friendslist, it puts me in the most popular rooms (more people clicking on me!) and more exposure.

When my camscore has dropped, my traffic drops. When it goes up, my traffic goes up.
Traffic, when played right can turn into $

This is why camscore is important. I've been riding this rollercoaster for 2 yrs.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
When I perv, I don't search by tags. I look at 2 things - the most popular room list, my friends list and whats right in front of my face. The girls in front of my face, are the ones with the higher scores.

That's what I do, too. I keep my list sorted by popular rooms, with friends at the top. 99% of my time on MFC is spent in friends' rooms, but when I go looking for someone new, I use the popularity sort to help find what I want. When I just want to be invisible in a big crowd, I look at the top 2 rows. But if I want to find someone I can talk to, I usually look at the bottom 2/3 of the first page... the people in the top few rows are usually too busy to talk. I've only searched by tags two or three times, I think.

Even though I don't sort the list by camscore, camscore is still a huge factor in which rooms I visit. Camscore is the default sort, so it greatly influences the number of people who end up in each room and as I described above, the number of people in a room is a big factor in what rooms I choose.
 
Ah well... I'm content where I'm at... if the camscore moves up, great. Otherwise, I'm not sure I want to add any more skype shows to my schedule. It's a great extra source of income, wished I'd started doing it sooner. The prospects I'm getting now via MFC seems to produce a steady flow of skype work.
 
bob said:
LilyMarie said:
I'm sorry for asking a dumb question, then. :oops: (The 'Is 1000 or 868 the average camscore?' one.)
I was honestly wondering and couldn't figure it out from the last 3 pages that I reread before asking.

there are no dumb questions when it comes to cs, imo.....i've seen it go up when a model has a bad day and the other way 'round.
as concise and accurate as amber's definition is, as much math as i've seen applied to it to help clarify it.....those things just point to a drop of mercury in a petri dish
you can't pick it up and hold it, and if you spend to much time trying, it can poison your entire attitude.

yeah, the higher it is, the better, and it can be kind of hypnotic, because it's so shiny and fluid on site....but you can't spend it
:twocents-02cents:
You are incorrect. Amber has been working on the math for years.

Models who have access to their own stats can always correctly calculate their camscore. While you can watch them or look up their stats, that information is not 100% accurate (MGF has underreported my time online by hours in a single shift and it lags behind by a day or two). Only the model knows her exact minutes online and total tokens earned.

It may seem like a huge mystery, but it is not. The only reason it is confusing you is because you watch a shift or two of a model, don't time it, don't count her tokens, aren't able to see her offline tips, can't calculate the effect of groups or privates, and haven't bothered to try with the math.

Dozens of models on ACF have done the math themselves, with no other factors, and have reported it to be very accurate. The last time I calculated my score I got it within 1 point. There is no secret mystery conspiracy here. The equation is correct, you just don't understand it because you don't have access to the variables.
 
Sorry, it's probably somewhere obvious here and I'm missing it (a page number on this thread?)... where is this 'formula' ?

Also... is there a simple explanation as to why the score can sometimes go UP when there is no activity? (after going down even, following several days of no activity)

Thanks!
 
I smell aggravated estrogen.....

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AmberCutie said:
bob said:
AmberCutie said:
trishhh said:
On friday I raised over 7k tokens in 4 hrs and my camscore jumped 100 points more, yesterday I raised over 9k tokens in 6 hrs and it jumped only 20 :///

THIS IS SHIT!
7k tokens in 4 hours is better TPH than 9k tokens in 6 hours. It's all math, this scenario makes sense.

TPH is Tokens Per Hour. TPH is what camscore is based on.

:whistle:
if it were that simple, then friday (1750 tph = 100 point rise in cs) would translate to saturday (1500 thp = x point rise in cs) would mean x outta equal an 85 point rise in cs.......

it ain't that simple

:twocents-02cents:

but yeah, trishh....you made some good bank....the cs will eventually sort itself out
it's only shit if you stop to smell it
Of course it aint THAT simple, but if you read my previous posts in this thread it makes more sense.

It's starting to drive me batty that models (and members) come in here day after day with their OMG I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY CAMSCORE DID THIS posts without having read the last 5-10 pages or so of this thread, which would explain a lot of it.

I'll type it again.

Camscore is based off of TPH (tokens per hour) over a 60-day average, as well as the average of the TPH of all models on the site. The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.
This was JUST posted on the page right before this. It's the last time I'm going to repeat it.
 
I think people just have a hard time accepting the chicken and egg nature of the camscore system and prefer to believe there is some loophole that successful, high ranking girls are privy to. Obviously, being higher on the page brings traffic, but it's not going to magically make a drastic difference in earnings. After a year and half on MFC and understanding camscore thanks to AmberCutie and the wealth of knowledge available here, my camscore bounces between 1400 and 1900 pretty predictably. This is where my particular efforts or lack their of puts me on the MFC food chain. Even if my score magically went up for a few weeks, it would return eventually because I probably won't up my game anytime soon. :lol: Unless you're planning to make major changes to your show or schedule, it doesn't make much sense to fret over your score like it is the deciding factor of your success.

I hope that made sense. The bish known as Estrogen now rules my life. :oops:
 
Evvie said:
bob said:
LilyMarie said:
I'm sorry for asking a dumb question, then. :oops: (The 'Is 1000 or 868 the average camscore?' one.)
I was honestly wondering and couldn't figure it out from the last 3 pages that I reread before asking.

there are no dumb questions when it comes to cs, imo.....i've seen it go up when a model has a bad day and the other way 'round.
as concise and accurate as amber's definition is, as much math as i've seen applied to it to help clarify it.....those things just point to a drop of mercury in a petri dish
you can't pick it up and hold it, and if you spend to much time trying, it can poison your entire attitude.

yeah, the higher it is, the better, and it can be kind of hypnotic, because it's so shiny and fluid on site....but you can't spend it
:twocents-02cents:
You are incorrect. Amber has been working on the math for years.

Models who have access to their own stats can always correctly calculate their camscore. While you can watch them or look up their stats, that information is not 100% accurate (MGF has underreported my time online by hours in a single shift and it lags behind by a day or two). Only the model knows her exact minutes online and total tokens earned.

It may seem like a huge mystery, but it is not. The only reason it is confusing you is because you watch a shift or two of a model, don't time it, don't count her tokens, aren't able to see her offline tips, can't calculate the effect of groups or privates, and haven't bothered to try with the math.

Dozens of models on ACF have done the math themselves, with no other factors, and have reported it to be very accurate. The last time I calculated my score I got it within 1 point. There is no secret mystery conspiracy here. The equation is correct, you just don't understand it because you don't have access to the variables.

i get that....but when, in any of my posts, have i tried to make any kind of argument for cs as some conspiracy?.......the only point i've tried to make is spending a lot of time fretting over it isn't gonna accomplish anything, and can actually turn a great attitude south.

and that point is important, i think, because amber wouldn't get so frustrated at having to repeat herself about cs if her info was a quiz that was part of model registration here (that's only meant to be half funny), or b/more pertinent to the concerns that are expressed by other models here about the value of camscore

the fact that the formula can be replicated with accuracy is laudable....it offers a cross check for those that might wonder if cs is a conspiracy, and provides a working baseline tph to measure one's performance against....

the fact that dozens of models have done the math themselves is also a good thing, but it also reinforces the fact that amber's info deserves a wider audience i guess.....which to me indicates that all those shiny and fluid variables continue to confuse models who want only to understand why their personal experience with camscore "doesn't add up" all the time....

to those models, i don't think it's out line to post that cs will sort itself out if they focus on what works for them, the guys and their tokies.

in the same way, i feel that camgirl's post about camscore distribution provides a valuable and simple insight into the meaning of camscore at mfc, particularly for any model that doesn't have access to or interest in doing the math themselves.

besides....i kinda like the metaphor of the drop of mercury in a petri dish :lol:
 
I get what you're saying bob.

I feel some folks get a bit frustrated, because we're all, "here is the exact formula to calculate your camscore" and people are all, "nope, that can't be it, because I've made some casual observations that would indicate otherwise. There has to be something more."

Along with the length of this thread and the debates that can confuse people, I wonder if it might not be better to retire this thread and start a new one with straight info for the first post and allowing questions to educate people? This thread seems to be half facts and half debate, which I think leads people to question the accuracy of what's going on because it's being philosophized over.

I do agree it would probably be a really good thing if the Amber Equation ( :lol: ) was given a bigger spotlight somewhere else to help circumvent this confusion.
 
Yeah, I may lock this soon and start a new one with the vital information posted right at the beginning. And then if people continue to debate and argue in a way that I believe would mislead and confuse new readers, I'll just delete posts as necessary.

:thumbleft:
 
So my ability to stand on my head has nothing to do with how high my camscore will get? Damn. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I've done the math that Amber has supplied us with and come within about 100 points of my score every time. I'm certain she's correct and any debaters are just silly goobers.
 
AmberCutie said:
I'll type it again.

Camscore is based off of TPH (tokens per hour) over a 60-day average, as well as the average of the TPH of all models on the site. The last time the average on the site was calculated, it was roughly 385 TPH, which would equal about a 1000 camscore.


This was JUST posted on the page right before this. It's the last time I'm going to repeat it.

so I'll repeat it once more for the people who can't do word problems :p

Camscore =

Most recent average of all camgirls was 385, so put that as the very bottom number.

Then multiply the answer you get by 1000.
 

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katrina4you said:
Start a new sticky thread called 'How is camscore calculated?' ... make it read only... no need to delete any posts.
I think it's a good idea for people to be able to ask questions, just as long as nobody pops in and says "no, this equation is incorrect, I believe camscore is also affected by how many words are on your profile."
 
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katrina4you said:
Start a new sticky thread called 'How is camscore calculated?' ... make it read only... no need to delete any posts.
I think it's a good idea for people to be able to ask questions, just as long as nobody pops in and says "no, this equation is incorrect, I believe camscore is also affected by how many words are on your profile."

the two ideas are compatible....we just need a formula to relate the variables :tongue3:
like...silly questions get referred to the calculation sticky
 
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Yesterday I heard terrible truth lol, namely, that not every model can earn 50k$ a month.. ''there are not enough money which are spending here'' haha... I felt like greedy bitch. I don't want to be second DarlingMegan or CrazySysy... Camscore between 5-7,000 would be perfet 4 me. But they already judged me lol...
But NVM.

Just have a questions and I'm curious what You think about this..
Is important to log at the same hours everyday?? How much would it change if I were coming everyday let's say exactly from 8 - 10 pm ? Would they (members) get used to that? ''Oh it's her time, she should be there, I'm coming in'' ? I mean...to accumulate all regulars to concrete hours. Make sense??
 
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