What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[JoleneBrody]

Who's room is it?

If you cannot help improve the life of your love, why would you want to marry her?

I won't give her name here lol

That was not the point of the argument. She stated that she wanted to stay home and have her husband do the work and support her without her doing anything to bring in income. That may work for some, but all the couples I know consist of both people working.

Be that as it may, it was interesting and amusing that she didn't just let it go.

It's not the point?

It's her room!

What gives a bunch of jackasses like you the right to try and tell her ANYTHING?

I'm uh... Gonna side with grumpy boce here. At least the girl was honest and it different cultures, even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of. If that's what she wants and desires, who's right is it of anyone else to argue against it? Especially when it's something so personal and she is in her own space or "house" if you will.
It just seems rude

 

[NoelleBright]

Who's room is it?

If you cannot help improve the life of your love, why would you want to marry her?

I won't give her name here lol

That was not the point of the argument. She stated that she wanted to stay home and have her husband do the work and support her without her doing anything to bring in income. That may work for some, but all the couples I know consist of both people working.

Be that as it may, it was interesting and amusing that she didn't just let it go.

It's not the point?

It's her room!

What gives a bunch of jackasses like you the right to try and tell her ANYTHING?

I'm uh... Gonna side with grumpy boce here. At least the girl was honest and it different cultures, even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of. If that's what she wants and desires, who's right is it of anyone else to argue against it? Especially when it's something so personal and she is in her own space or "house" if you will.
It just seems rude

It is definitely cultural a lot of the time.
My family is entirely Russian and aside from my mother none of the other women have ever worked, it's pretty much unheard of. The first questions out of any of their mouths when they hear about a boyfriend of mine are "What's his work? Does he have money? Can he take care of you?".

 

[ComicOzzie]

Talking about profiles - this isn't the most annoying thing, but I find it offputting when a girl's profile is like
NO Skype
NO calling me bb
NO PayPal
NO rudeness
NO privates
NO PMing
NO disrespecting other members
NO requests without tipping

Even worse is seeing these rules scrolling across her screen while she is on cam.

 

[BarbieLuv]

It's not the point?

It's her room!

What gives a bunch of jackasses like you the right to try and tell her ANYTHING?

I'm uh... Gonna side with grumpy boce here. At least the girl was honest and it different cultures, even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of. If that's what she wants and desires, who's right is it of anyone else to argue against it? Especially when it's something so personal and she is in her own space or "house" if you will.
It just seems rude

It is definitely cultural a lot of the time.
My family is entirely Russian and aside from my mother none of the other women have ever worked, it's pretty much unheard of. The first questions out of any of their mouths when they hear about a boyfriend of mine are "What's his work? Does he have money? Can he take care of you?".

I come from a looooong line of housewives, and my husband and I's plan has always been for him to work, and me to stay at home and take care of the house (and children, when we have them further down the road). I would say 80% of families in my geographical area have the same structure and dynamic, with a few flipping the gender roles and having stay-at-home husbands.

There is nothing wrong with a woman (or a man, for that matter) wanting to stay at home and take care of the domestic side of things while the other partner 'brings home the bacon', so to speak. And it's definitely not anyone's place to try to convince someone else that the way they want to live is somehow wrong or flawed. If you don't want your partner to stay home, then don't marry someone who wants that dynamic. Don't like what the model is talking about? Leave her room. No need to try to make her feel bad about something that might seem as natural to her as breathing.

 

[wjr3]

I think making tippers, even the regulars you might take for granted, feel valued is an important part of being a cam model.

Very much like tipping will show appreciation to the model for her time, effort, enthusiasm, physical attributes, etc etc etc. The whole atmosphere works best when it goes both ways.

 

[mutantdonut]

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I sometimes wait to see that person online and thank them out loud. Maybe an immediate MFC mail would be better!

This reminds me...

One of my first ever offline tips was to a model that i couldn't always catch online due to our erratic schedules. Because of that, two weeks had passed until i was able to see her again and the model forgotten about the tip. Admittedly, it felt a little shitty but no biggy since she thank'd me a bunch for my in-chat tokens. Later i had found out her thanking style was also to verbally thank her offline tippers in chat. It was just an unfortunate but honest mishap.

So i'm just juggling theories and hypotheticals here...
I would think if your long-time regs know the manner in which you thank your offline tips, it may not be such a big deal to continue verbally thanking them in chat. But in the case of a new regular sending you an offline tip for the first time - who's unfamiliar to how you show appreciation for all gifts - it might be a different case. I suppose if say... you're unable to log on for the next 10 days, a member could feel shunned for his offline tip. I guess it when it comes down to it, it's about sending that thank you in a timely manner. So yeah... immediate mfc mail is the safest bet one would think.

 

[Leon_Omega]

Girls' faces when they get tipped are so fucking cute

Exactly! One of the main reasons why I usually tell people that tipping is its own reward.

The pm'ing thing is SUCH a fine line to walk! Same with saying hi to a member friend before they say hi to you even if they are in the room.
In general I've just taken to letting the members make the first move unless I'm REALLY overwhlemed with the need to say hi because it's like been a while and I'm excited to see them.

I really like it when models do this, provided that I know them, have talked to them, am in their room regularly, etc. I find it quite weird that people would not like to feel appreciated in this manner. I'm here for the social interaction as much as the fapping (on average). Which brings me to my first "most annoying" (feel free to read that in a stuffy British accent) thing that models do:

- MFC mail or PM me despite the fact that we've never spoken before. While I appreciate the heads-up that I'm such a hot commodity that women fight over the right to have me in their presence, it tends to come across more like these girls are not after my sparkling personality, but rather my sweet, sweet tokens. Plus, it's just rude to assume that I'm going to leave a room that I've just tipped in because I liked the show/atmosphere/etc.

- See me come into a room and instantly head to PM in order to try to seduce me into taking her private. This happens quite often in quiet rooms because the few people who would normally be talking in chat are instead all PMing the model because she thought that would help the room's ambiance. It always feels like I'm at an awkward party where there are a few guys leaning against the wall looking at a dancefloor that has only a single girl standing in the middle. Only instead of trying to entice us to dance with her by dancing and flirting with us, she's just standing there, phone in hand and texting us one by one. I also have to be really in the mood to go private with a model. Can't really explain what it is that causes that, but that's just the way it is. If I'm in the room for the first time, I don't kow the model yet, so wouldn't necessarily enjoy a private as much as I would from someone who knows me a bit better.

- Be American. Wait! put down those sharp pointy sticks, I'll explain! The only annoyance here is that a lot of you lovely ladies of the internet are based in the US which, depending on where in the country you live, is anywhere between 6 and 12 time zones behind me, meaning that if you cam at night, chances are I'll be counting sheep in dreamland or at work I wish I could hang out with some of you more.

- Anatomy lessons. While I do enjoy the occasional chat about the female body, I get turned off when a model feels the need to give me "the inside scoop" on her lady parts. I realize it's a fetish (and certainly don't mind if, say it happened during a show because someone tipped for it) but if I enter a room and the first thing that greets me is a massive close-up of a girl's Cave of Wonders, I'll likely hop in the nearest flying carpet outta there. In all honesty though, that's mainly because it's a relatively common occurrence that I'm just really not into.

- Banning me without any apparent reason. This one only happened once, and it's doing my head in trying to figure out what, if anything, I could have done wrong (I like to learn from my mistakes). But it happened while I was offline, after I'd been in the room twice. I;d essentially said hi, perved for a bit before work, said bye and left. Been banned ever since.

- Misleading Avatars. This one got some well-deserved flak a bunch of pages back, but despite the fact that a girl can look very different on a photo because of the lighting, angle, make-up, outfit, etc. than she does on cam, doesn't change the fact that it's jarring to click on a pretty girl's face only to see a very different looking one staring back from the cam feed. I'm not implying different girl, but rather the same girl having a very different look. Not necessarily against it, but can't really shake the feeling that I've been tricked into the room under shaky pretenses. Allow me to explain:

Spoiler

Under the spoiler tag are two pictures. One is the DVD cover for Return to Oz, another one is a still from the movie. Now if a parent were at a store trying to find a fun movie for their children to enjoy, and they saw the happy, colorful DVD with the familiar faces of Dorothy, Scarecrow, the Cowardly Lion and Tin man alongside a few new friends on the sequel to the Wizard of Oz, they might just get it if their children were very fond of one of the many film adaptations of the original story (partial to the Muppet version, myself).

They would then have a room full of screaming children as soon as the fucking Wheelers (the other image) show up in an attempt to kidnap Dorothy for their queen, who wants the young protagonist's head.

I'm just saying that it's a bit off-putting if there's a substantial difference between presentation and product.

 

[Starling]

I'm finding out firsthand how disappointing it is to send a girl a nice sized offline tip and not get any acknowledgement at all.

I had this happen somewhat recently with a wishlist item. I bought something for a model I liked, and included a little note, and the shipping information had my model name... no acknowledgement, even when I popped into her room after the item had been delivered. Kind of a bummer.

Re: Rules, it drives me crazy when I see a model's profile loaded with negative "no" and "don't" phrases. It's just such a subconscious turn-off for people, and I don't know how models don't see that! I do address things like squirting/anal/paypal later in my profile, but it's all in one dainty little fell swoop. Honestly, I figure the people who I want to stay in my room are the kind of people who don't need to see that list to behave themselves. And the asshats are gonna be asshats regardless of whether or not I put something like that in my profile.

Re: Schedule, although I tend to log on in the same 1-2 hour window, I don't have a specific (reliable) schedule on my MFC profile because my week fluctuates with what else I've got going on, how much time/energy I have, etc. Even if you don't have Twitter, I don't think it's that hard to click the Twitter link on someone's profile and check to see if she's posted about when she'll be on... right?

 

[Leon_Omega]

And finally, the absolute worst thing I've seen a camgirl do. This one really deserves its own post.

It all started when I'd just gotten in touch with my inner cam-perv. Back in late December 2012 when I had just discovered a magical place on the internet where my age-old custom of throwing handfuls of nickels at pretty girls and yelling "OPEN BOBS BB!" actually got a reaction other than a pile of restraining orders and regular visits from the men in the white coats (some or all of this story may have been made up).

I'd found a number of fun camgirls to visit, one of which shall be henceforth known as Camgirl B. Camgirl B was quite popular, not difficult to see why because not only was she very good-looking, but she could also effortlessly keep up several conversations at once with a room that could get several thousand visitors at times. She was very entertaining is what I'm getting at. She is also one of the nicest people I have ever met online (I do not make that statement lightly) and she was about to do a girl/girl show in a hotel. I gladly bought a ticket for the show (400 tokens, a significant amount back then as I was just getting into things) and as the show date came around, I sat down ready to enjoy my first big camshow. It was coming aling nicely, tips were flowing, vibe was good, etc. when suddenly the feed cut out and I refreshed only to find out that the room had been banned. Checking the other girl's room revealed the same message. So I took to Twitter to see if I could find out what happened. Not too long after I did, tweets started showing up with screenshots of another model's room where she was inciting her members (while having the most disgusting grin on her face) to report Camgirl B so she'd get banned. See, CB was very short-staffed that particular weekend (this being just after Christmas) and instead of investigating reports, they just decided to ban first, ask questions if they can be arsed to later.

This other model is Camgirl A, and she's the subject of this post. This girl has been having a public feud with Camgirl B for as long as I've known her. Without an apparent reason other than very strong hints at her being very VERY jealous of Camgirl B's success. It has been clear from the first time I saw her Twitter feed that she does not think Camgirl B "deserves" the success she has. (Okay, "camgirl B" is getting annoying, I'll go with B instead)

- She calls B underweight because Camgirl B is very petite.
- She says B is a bad girlfriend because she occasionally does toy shows, one of which is a fuckmachine
- She says B is greedy, because she gets tipped without a countdown/show gong on
- She verbally abuses B to no end, including somehow trying to slut-shame a fellow camgirl
- She has, on cam, thrown darts at a photo of B's face, telling her viewers that she would gladly do the same in real life if she had a gun
- She has created fake accounts in B's name that she uses to troll
- She has given out B's personal information
- B was in LA to shoot for Cam Girlz, so what does A do? Incessantly tweet that it's clearly a seedy porn movie, and that the guys making it are only trying to get girls naked in front of their cameras.
- Whenever her room gets banned, she automatically takes to Twitter to yell venom at B since obviously there can be no other explanation for it.

I should note at this point, that none of the accusations she makes are EVER backed up with any evidence. When pressed to present that, she condescendingly (which was quite funny since she had the writing skill of a 5th-grader writing their first ever assignment) told me that I was misreading her tweets, and that B is very different in private than she is on cam. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock! A camgirl who acts differently to people viewing her than she does to the person who takes any opportunity to slander her name! My mind is blown here.

Worst of all, though, is the blatant hypocrisy. She claims not to b obsessed by B, but has long stretches of tweets about nothing else, and even manages to work in a jab or two whenever she's talking about something completely unrelated. Hell, for all her tweeting about B, she runs an auto-moderator script in her room that silences everyone who mentions her name. Despite claiming that B is "only in it for the money", she has been revealed to have originally e-mailed B asking for advice on how to make more money as a camgirl (yeah, B actually did show me the e-mails) and not only that, but this camgirl who was all about her "principles" back in 2012, never getting nude on cam, now has a BJ video for sale that includes a facial (which is not a bad thing, of course since camming is about exploring and expanding one's sexual boundaries - it becomes bad when she's trying to slut-shame a fellow camgirl for "selling out").

But the real kick in the nuts from all of this, is the fact that she honestly is quite attractive. The one time I was in her room, she came across as very friendly, had a decent rapport going with her crowd and had obviously spent a lot of effort into keeping in shape. All topped of by a pretty face and a nice smile. I could have been one of her regs now, had she not turned into a verbal werewolf at the sight of a full Twitter icon. That and the fact that she's attacking people who, to my knowledge, have done nothing to deserve it. B was one of my favorite camgirls for a long time. In part because of the general vibe I get from her room, but also because it once happened that I didn't get to see her for a few months (she tends to broadcast when I sleep) and once I greeted her, she asked me about things that we talked about months before. Call me a softie, but the fact that this girl who sees and talks to hundreds of people a day still remembered a guy who had been in her room, like 4 times several months before, that hit me right in the feels.

So in summary, be like B, fuck A with a rusty spork. (or, failing that, the "lust" strap-on fom Seven)

 

[JimsX]

bu I believe I am entitled to an opinion too, even in a model's chat room.

You go big Jim... to wherever it is that suits you and where your opinion won't ever be challenged.

So my opinion should be challenged, but not a model's? You are grumpy sir. *hug*

 

[JimsX]

I'm uh... Gonna side with grumpy boce here. At least the girl was honest and it different cultures, even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of. If that's what she wants and desires, who's right is it of anyone else to argue against it? Especially when it's something so personal and she is in her own space or "house" if you will.
It just seems rude

I agree. What I found amusing was her opinion given (she was asked by a member, so I agree the members should have accepted it), members gave theirs, and then nuclear explosion. My point was it escalated needlessly.

ANYWAY! I suck at making my point, so I will leave this dead horse of a topic for the coyotes.

 

[UncleThursday]

I'd probably be agreeing with the model in this case. Nothing wrong imo with a woman wanting a man to support her. Kinda wish I was in that type of relationship sometimes. When both people in a relationship are constantly busy with work it can get shitty.

Except the world isn't like that, anymore.

The cost of living, etc. has gone up dramatically since the early days where the men earned and the women were supported and took care of the family.

Unless you easily make 6 figures bring home, but live a lifestyle and in an area where bringing home 5 figures will let you live very comfortably (with things like nice vacations, etc. being a very large option due to the salary vs cost of living difference), the 1-person working household is a myth these days.

even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of.

Maybe it depends on where you live for that. In the New York/Philadelphia/Baltimore/DC section of the Midlantic, especially living within 100 miles of any of those cities, it is very common to have a dual working household just to get by. I'm sure places like LA and San Fran or San Diego can be similar. Maybe in the Midwest, not near major cities or the Southwest not near major cities it can happen... but within the major population areas of the US, it's very common for both partners to work. The cost of living in NYC is over 128% above the national average... There aren't many 1 person working households there.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I'd probably be agreeing with the model in this case. Nothing wrong imo with a woman wanting a man to support her. Kinda wish I was in that type of relationship sometimes. When both people in a relationship are constantly busy with work it can get shitty.

Except the world isn't like that, anymore.

My world is, and I know plenty of dudes who it ain't a myth for. Might not be as popular or as possible as it once was but myth? lol

 

[goldenaye666]

ANYWAY! I suck at making my point, so I will leave this dead horse of a topic for the coyotes.

I got what you were saying. She can have that opinion, but she can't expect everyone to agree with it. If every model who had a member disagree with one of their opinions, got pissed and left, there would be zero models online.

 

[Foxxx_]

I'm finding out firsthand how disappointing it is to send a girl a nice sized offline tip and not get any acknowledgement at all.

So... you want a special ceremony or what?

I just want a thank you. I don't need a cookie.

(My point being that ignoring offline tips is an "annoying thing a model can do" on par with the topic.

I sometimes wait to see that person online and thank them out loud. Maybe an immediate MFC mail would be better!

An opened offline tip without acknowledgment is the worst, the 5 seconds it would take to respond is worth it. :twocents-02cents:

 

[yossarian]

One of my fav models is always asking for offline tips on Twitter, but I've stopped giving them because she NEVER says thank you. I feel kind of weird about it because I'm one of her few regulars so she knows me...should I tell her why? I feel like I'd sound like a crybaby, but it seems like common courtesy. :?

 

[Misono]

One of my fav models is always asking for offline tips on Twitter, but I've stopped giving them because she NEVER says thank you. I feel kind of weird about it because I'm one of her few regulars so she knows me...should I tell her why? I feel like I'd sound like a crybaby, but it seems like common courtesy. :?

Had similar before, so I stopped. Stopped even going in the room. Finally the penny dropped, and she sent me a PM, got a reply that I just felt they were being taken for granted, and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Tried upping it to a few thousand? Not guaranteed to work though.

 

[LilyMarie]

and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Wow. What a bitch.

 

[ComicOzzie]

One of my fav models is always asking for offline tips on Twitter, but I've stopped giving them because she NEVER says thank you. I feel kind of weird about it because I'm one of her few regulars so she knows me...should I tell her why? I feel like I'd sound like a crybaby, but it seems like common courtesy. :?

Had similar before, so I stopped. Stopped even going in the room. Finally the penny dropped, and she sent me a PM, got a reply that I just felt they were being taken for granted, and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Tried upping it to a few thousand? Not guaranteed to work though.

Instant addition to my hide list. Fuck that.

 

[Misono]

and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Wow. What a bitch.

Indeed. She's still around though. But we don't name names here, right? RIGHT?

 

[LilyMarie]

and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Wow. What a bitch.

Indeed. She's still around though. But we don't name names here, right? RIGHT?

Not gonna lie, I'm really curious of course, but we don't name names.

 

[Misono]

All I will say then in that case is that her MFC username is not based off famous child acting twins.

 

[DuoShi]

and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Wow. What a bitch.

Iknorite. I read that line right before going to the store which is a few blocks up the street. I walked there ranting about what that girl said all the way there and back. I was even fussin' in the store just not as loud. I just can't believe someone would be that dumb to say that. Teh fuck, mayne!

 

[JimsX]

Had similar before, so I stopped. Stopped even going in the room. Finally the penny dropped, and she sent me a PM, got a reply that I just felt they were being taken for granted, and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Tried upping it to a few thousand? Not guaranteed to work though.

20 bucks is not that much and not worth a thanks? I'd fucking spit shine your shoes if you gave me a 20.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I'd probably be agreeing with the model in this case. Nothing wrong imo with a woman wanting a man to support her. Kinda wish I was in that type of relationship sometimes. When both people in a relationship are constantly busy with work it can get shitty.

Except the world isn't like that, anymore.

The cost of living, etc. has gone up dramatically since the early days where the men earned and the women were supported and took care of the family.

Unless you easily make 6 figures bring home, but live a lifestyle and in an area where bringing home 5 figures will let you live very comfortably (with things like nice vacations, etc. being a very large option due to the salary vs cost of living difference), the 1-person working household is a myth these days.

even within the U.S. both partners working is a little unheard of.

Maybe it depends on where you live for that. In the New York/Philadelphia/Baltimore/DC section of the Midlantic, especially living within 100 miles of any of those cities, it is very common to have a dual working household just to get by. I'm sure places like LA and San Fran or San Diego can be similar. Maybe in the Midwest, not near major cities or the Southwest not near major cities it can happen... but within the major population areas of the US, it's very common for both partners to work. The cost of living in NYC is over 128% above the national average... There aren't many 1 person working households there.

You cut out where I said "in some cultures, even within the U.S" in order to basically agree that it's cultural...
That's what I said man. I really don't think you need to prove that some places aren't like that.

 

[LilLitaRose]

Had similar before, so I stopped. Stopped even going in the room. Finally the penny dropped, and she sent me a PM, got a reply that I just felt they were being taken for granted, and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Tried upping it to a few thousand? Not guaranteed to work though.

Jesus. It's moments like that that makes me really mad :angry4: . Why not thank the people who are giving you money? ARRRGH.
This makes me wanna go all Shehulk, but I don't have a law degree.

But uhm. Wow. I don't understand that mentality. I'm sorry Misono.

 

[Misono]

Had similar before, so I stopped. Stopped even going in the room. Finally the penny dropped, and she sent me a PM, got a reply that I just felt they were being taken for granted, and was told "Your couple hundred token tips weren't that much, so I didn't thank you".

Tried upping it to a few thousand? Not guaranteed to work though.

Jesus. It's moments like that that makes me really mad :angry4: . Why not thank the people who are giving you money? ARRRGH.
This makes me wanna go all Shehulk, but I don't have a law degree.

But uhm. Wow. I don't understand that mentality. I'm sorry Misono.

Doesn't bother me, just means my monthly spend goes elsewhere. I usually allow myself about £150 a month on MFC, although now I'm in the mindset to only spend it if it's worth it, not because I have it. I just seem to always end up picking the horrid ones!

 

[Misono]

May as well drift off slightly, but cropping up on my MFC Twitter feed a lot lately seems to be some sort of FinDom fad. I don't get it, but know some guys get off on the idea of having someone control their money. But surely the model has to be more dominant in their own right? The ones I'm seeing post up, hashtaging things like #paypigs etc, certainly come across more as submissive.

Is this just the latest model craze to try and make money for minimal effort?

Edit: Punctuation is your friend, Misono.

 

[Gen]

May as well drift off slightly, but cropping up on my MFC Twitter feed a lot lately seems to be some sort of FinDom fad. I don't get it, but know some guys get off on the idea of having someone control their money. But surely the model has to be more dominant in their own right? The ones I'm seeing post up, hashtaging things like #paypigs etc certainly come across more as submissive.

Is this just the latest model craze to try and make money for minimal effort?

Paypigs is in reference to the guy being her paypig, not the other way around!

 

[Misono]

May as well drift off slightly, but cropping up on my MFC Twitter feed a lot lately seems to be some sort of FinDom fad. I don't get it, but know some guys get off on the idea of having someone control their money. But surely the model has to be more dominant in their own right? The ones I'm seeing post up, hashtaging things like #paypigs etc certainly come across more as submissive.

Is this just the latest model craze to try and make money for minimal effort?

Paypigs is in reference to the guy being her paypig, not the other way around!

Oh, I'm aware of that. Evidently just missed the comma after the etc. Just that I find the models who I follow that have just started doing this are more submissive when I've seen them on cam, and as such the whole concept seems rather false to me.

Will edit the comma into the original post