I would hope models didn't hop into kink related activities simply because it was popular. It wouldn't surprise me but it's ideal if a person tries these things for the sake of exploring one's sexuality.
MrRodry said:Models snorting, or pretending they're snorting, cocaine in privates. It's kind of fucked up but understandable that there is a market for that sort of thing but I think it would be better if that was done in a Skype call and not on MFC feed.
nzhere said:MrRodry said:Models snorting, or pretending they're snorting, cocaine in privates. It's kind of fucked up but understandable that there is a market for that sort of thing but I think it would be better if that was done in a Skype call and not on MFC feed.
I take it you were spying? how often are you seeing this happen
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HarmlessSquirrel said:I'm going to say just a bit about what was just discussed (well, just before Rodry's post), and then I'll mention my on-topic thing: It's not at all surprising (and not a problem usually) that what some people find annoying, others might find enjoyable, necessary, or just nothing to be bothered by. For most of these things, there's not a right and wrong; there are just various opinions/feelings. On the threads, where models talk about annoying things members do, lots of the examples are the usual creeps, trolls, and idiots, doing what they do, and yes, I agree those things are annoying. For some of the other things, sometimes I disagree and think they're complaining about someone doing something perfectly reasonable. I usually won't argue those unless I think my head is going to explode, though. I just take it as information - it's something some models are bothered by and I'll bear it in mind when in a cam room. I won't lengthen the post with examples, but I can name some if someone doesn't know what I mean.
Anyway, to the gripemobile!
It's seems to me that fetish things are turning up in a ton of model rooms. Now, I realize many models and members enjoy that stuff, and I'm not suggesting nobody should do it. I'm just a "vanilla," and a lot of those things make me uncomfortable. Since one of my favorites has moved in that direction, I've tried to get used to it, but I'm afraid it's just not for me. Unfortunately (for me), it seems like in almost every room (probably an exaggeration, but seriously, lots of them) there are at least some of: paddles, floggers, ball gags, cat ears, butt plugs with tails on them, nipple clamps, etc. I understand that there are models who specialize in certain types of things, and that's cool. It just seems like it's become a huge fad, and now everyone thinks it's what members want to see. I don't recall this being very common when I first became a member, and I probably browsed models more then than I do now. I just wanted to put it out there that some of us really don't want to see it, so if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular, just be aware that there are also some guys who will appreciate it if you don't.
mynameisbob84 said:Explicitly begging for things. To be fair, I don't see this often but over Christmas I saw it enough for it to bug me.
A "buy me something from my wishlist and I'll send you a video wearing/using what you bought me" or a "offline tip x and I'll send you y" is completely cool.
A quick, jokey, wink-wink-nudge-nudge "oh btw I have a wishlist lol" or a "offline tips make me smile" is also fine.
But multiple "guys, buy me this", "if you love me, buy me that", "who's gonna buy me these?", "I'm going out, can you send me some offline tips, yeah?" in quick succession just comes across as begging. You're not offering anything in return so it just feels like you're taking advantage of the guys who think enough of you to buy these things for you :twocents-02cents:
JimsX said:I haven't read all 50 pages (yes), so I may be repeating what others have already said.
1. I generally hate when models pm me seconds after I log on. It depends on the model of course; some are just nice ladies and want to chat. I have no issue with that, but with some it's just obvious that when they say "hi" it really means "get your ass in here and tip me!" Can't stand it. But this is also partly due to the models I like (I like Asians, and they often don't earn well).
2. Expecting me to tip big all the time. One model I liked (note the past tense) was desperate to hit her quota. I decided to help out and tipped the 1500 she needed a couple minutes before cutoff. She said thank you and all was well ... I thought. But then on the next 3 cutoff days she was pming me instantly after I logged on and talking about how slow her room was. :naughty: Not gonna work sweetie. This same model called me a liar when I said a couple months later that I lost my job (which was absolutely true, but yeah, I see it from her side too. I am sure she hears it a lot).
I had another model CALL me long distance several times asking me to help. Stupid me, I did help once. Big mistake. The begging didn't stop until I called her out on it and she banned me.
3. Setting an insanely high countdown (yes, I know this is relative) and then bitching out the room for not reaching it. If you set a 5000 token countdown 4-5 days in a row and never hit it, perhaps you should rethink your daily goal? Just saying ...
Gween said:Told a model friend of mine to NEVER do it again when she said it was good business strategy. I hate hate when people bug me on twitter/facebook/whatever when i just logged on for ANYTHING. Posting newsfeed, sending snap and twitter is ENOUGH. If they don't want to get in your room that day, they won't go by forcing them or saying "hi! I am online!" on PM.
and the High Countdown is true, if you are going for a mega month, you dip your feet and see how is it working, if not, just low a little and keep trying. This is very common in near paycheck days like models "6000 to goal! Cumshow!"when she usually makes it like 300 tokens during the week. :?
I consider myself as a member besides being a model, i really like to spend my time tipping some models and recently i got PM "hey sweetie, will you come to my room?" i was laughing "omg girl, i know all your tricks, stahp" :lol:
HarmlessSquirrel said:It's seems to me that fetish things are turning up in a ton of model rooms. Now, I realize many models and members enjoy that stuff, and I'm not suggesting nobody should do it. I'm just a "vanilla," and a lot of those things make me uncomfortable. Since one of my favorites has moved in that direction, I've tried to get used to it, but I'm afraid it's just not for me. Unfortunately (for me), it seems like in almost every room (probably an exaggeration, but seriously, lots of them) there are at least some of: paddles, floggers, ball gags, cat ears, butt plugs with tails on them, nipple clamps, etc. I understand that there are models who specialize in certain types of things, and that's cool. It just seems like it's become a huge fad, and now everyone thinks it's what members want to see. I don't recall this being very common when I first became a member, and I probably browsed models more then than I do now. I just wanted to put it out there that some of us really don't want to see it, so if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular, just be aware that there are also some guys who will appreciate it if you don't.
SexyStephXS said:nzhere said:MrRodry said:Models snorting, or pretending they're snorting, cocaine in privates. It's kind of fucked up but understandable that there is a market for that sort of thing but I think it would be better if that was done in a Skype call and not on MFC feed.
I take it you were spying? how often are you seeing this happen
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Or... Not spy.
I don't have any desire to do those types of shows now, but I enjoyed them back then.
Gween said:Told a model friend of mine to NEVER do it again when she said it was good business strategy. I hate hate when people bug me on twitter/facebook/whatever when i just logged on for ANYTHING. Posting newsfeed, sending snap and twitter is ENOUGH. If they don't want to get in your room that day, they won't go by forcing them or saying "hi! I am online!" on PM.
and the High Countdown is true, if you are going for a mega month, you dip your feet and see how is it working, if not, just low a little and keep trying. This is very common in near paycheck days like models "6000 to goal! Cumshow!"when she usually makes it like 300 tokens during the week. :?
I consider myself as a member besides being a model, i really like to spend my time tipping some models and recently i got PM "hey sweetie, will you come to my room?" i was laughing "omg girl, i know all your tricks, stahp" :lol:
JoleneBrody said:The pm'ing thing is SUCH a fine line to walk! Same with saying hi to a member friend before they say hi to you even if they are in the room.
In general I've just taken to letting the members make the first move unless I'm REALLY overwhlemed with the need to say hi because it's like been a while and I'm excited to see them.
It's nerve wracking though! What some members almost require from a model in order to feel appreciated other members will drop you with a quickness for, specifically the unsolicited PM's.
So fudge it, just do what feels natural to you ladies! No matter what, someone will hate you for it but at least you were being genuine. :lol:
The greatest thing about this thread is that is really goes to show the vast difference of opinions from members. It actually mkes me feel better, because according to this thread everything is bad so I don't take it so personally anymore if I do something that annoys ONE person... because it's inevitable! hahahaha
missmeowmixx said:Having an incorrect aspect ratio! OH MY GAWD, it drives me bananasauce. How can you not tell that you look squished? You look squished man! Your face is SQUISHED! Bah! I CANNOT watch girls who have their cam's resolution set wrong like this.
LacieLaPlante said:missmeowmixx said:Having an incorrect aspect ratio! OH MY GAWD, it drives me bananasauce. How can you not tell that you look squished? You look squished man! Your face is SQUISHED! Bah! I CANNOT watch girls who have their cam's resolution set wrong like this.
Back when I cammed with some models, they were really upset to find out my cam didn't make them look "thinner" and kept asking to cam from their computers because they thought my cam made them look fat.
JoleneBrody said:The pm'ing thing is SUCH a fine line to walk! Same with saying hi to a member friend before they say hi to you even if they are in the room.
In general I've just taken to letting the members make the first move unless I'm REALLY overwhlemed with the need to say hi because it's like been a while and I'm excited to see them.
It's nerve wracking though! What some members almost require from a model in order to feel appreciated other members will drop you with a quickness for, specifically the unsolicited PM's.
So fudge it, just do what feels natural to you ladies! No matter what, someone will hate you for it but at least you were being genuine. :lol:
The greatest thing about this thread is that is really goes to show the vast difference of opinions from members. It actually mkes me feel better, because according to this thread everything is bad so I don't take it so personally anymore if I do something that annoys ONE person... because it's inevitable! hahahaha
LacieLaPlante said:HarmlessSquirrel said:It's seems to me that fetish things are turning up in a ton of model rooms. Now, I realize many models and members enjoy that stuff, and I'm not suggesting nobody should do it. I'm just a "vanilla," and a lot of those things make me uncomfortable. Since one of my favorites has moved in that direction, I've tried to get used to it, but I'm afraid it's just not for me. Unfortunately (for me), it seems like in almost every room (probably an exaggeration, but seriously, lots of them) there are at least some of: paddles, floggers, ball gags, cat ears, butt plugs with tails on them, nipple clamps, etc. I understand that there are models who specialize in certain types of things, and that's cool. It just seems like it's become a huge fad, and now everyone thinks it's what members want to see. I don't recall this being very common when I first became a member, and I probably browsed models more then than I do now. I just wanted to put it out there that some of us really don't want to see it, so if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular, just be aware that there are also some guys who will appreciate it if you don't.
Believe it or not, many models truly enjoy the aspects they bring to their room and it's not all for money. So you may not like cat ears, the model might think she's cute as hell right now with her kitty ears on. Not everything is done for the member. It would probably infuriate me if someone thought because I am generally mild-mannered, calm and not overt about my preference for kink, that I was just doing it because it was a fad.
I hate to say it, but members who are into kink seem to be more willing to pay for their fetish as well. Great, you like it vanilla, but it's pretty hard to tip a model to stay vanilla. There are tips for spanks. You can't tip a model and say "thank you for not spanking yourself for this tip" it's just kinda odd and you wouldn't do it. You shouldn't need to. But there are guys who love spanks and nipple clamps and they will pay for it.
HarmlessSquirrel said:Oh, I'm completely aware that some models enjoy the kink, and I have no issue with that. I'm not suggesting models shouldn't do what they want to do. That's why I said "if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular." If it's what you like anyway, I don't expect you not to do it. My point was that if it's just because it seems popular, I wanted to mention that not everyone likes it, so there's a market for those who don't go that way too. Absolutely some of it is models just doing what they like, but I'd also bet a lot that some are doing it just because they think it's what the tippers want to see. This tipper is bothered by it, but as I said in the first part of my prior post, that's a personal preference thing, not a someone is right and someone is wrong thing.
I think I was pretty clear that I was aware that some models did it because they enjoyed it, and I completely respect their right to do what they want to do. I take this topic to be "things that the poster personally finds annoying" and not necessarily "things that everyone is annoyed by." In other words, "Tons of models suddenly doing kink" bothers me personally, and I suspect *some* of them are doing it just because they think they'll be more successful that way (and for all I know, they may be). I'm well aware that plenty of people don't feel the way I do; I just thought it would be good to put it out there that there are also those of us who us who aren't comfy with that because I rarely hear anyone mention that. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one out there.
The model who I'm a regular of that has incorporated this made it quite clear that this is really what she likes. It never even occurred to me to ask her not to do it (not that she would stop just for me anyway, but I wouldn't lay that on her), and I don't even think she should stop. She's doing great and has a roomful of guys who eat it up. I'm just uncomfortable, and I feel like I don't belong in that room anymore.
Oh, incidentally, I actually *would* tip for vanilla to some degree, although I'm going to tip regardless if I stick around for a good while. I'd just be much more likely to come back to a room if I felt comfortable the first time.
Also, a lot of the models *are* cute as hell with cat ears on, but in my opinion, this is just because they are cute as hell to begin with. I happen to find them most appealing when they just look like women. And yes, that's just my opinion. Other folks enjoy it, and that's okay too.
JimsX said:HarmlessSquirrel said:Oh, I'm completely aware that some models enjoy the kink, and I have no issue with that. I'm not suggesting models shouldn't do what they want to do. That's why I said "if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular." If it's what you like anyway, I don't expect you not to do it. My point was that if it's just because it seems popular, I wanted to mention that not everyone likes it, so there's a market for those who don't go that way too. Absolutely some of it is models just doing what they like, but I'd also bet a lot that some are doing it just because they think it's what the tippers want to see. This tipper is bothered by it, but as I said in the first part of my prior post, that's a personal preference thing, not a someone is right and someone is wrong thing.
I think I was pretty clear that I was aware that some models did it because they enjoyed it, and I completely respect their right to do what they want to do. I take this topic to be "things that the poster personally finds annoying" and not necessarily "things that everyone is annoyed by." In other words, "Tons of models suddenly doing kink" bothers me personally, and I suspect *some* of them are doing it just because they think they'll be more successful that way (and for all I know, they may be). I'm well aware that plenty of people don't feel the way I do; I just thought it would be good to put it out there that there are also those of us who us who aren't comfy with that because I rarely hear anyone mention that. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one out there.
The model who I'm a regular of that has incorporated this made it quite clear that this is really what she likes. It never even occurred to me to ask her not to do it (not that she would stop just for me anyway, but I wouldn't lay that on her), and I don't even think she should stop. She's doing great and has a roomful of guys who eat it up. I'm just uncomfortable, and I feel like I don't belong in that room anymore.
Oh, incidentally, I actually *would* tip for vanilla to some degree, although I'm going to tip regardless if I stick around for a good while. I'd just be much more likely to come back to a room if I felt comfortable the first time.
Also, a lot of the models *are* cute as hell with cat ears on, but in my opinion, this is just because they are cute as hell to begin with. I happen to find them most appealing when they just look like women. And yes, that's just my opinion. Other folks enjoy it, and that's okay too.
Your post suddenly reminds me of the 3 million "library shows" that are all over MFC right now. The first ones were unique and cute, but now I just roll my eyes as I see it as jumping on the token bandwagon.
HarmlessSquirrel said:I think I was pretty clear that I was aware that some models did it because they enjoyed it, and I completely respect their right to do what they want to do. I take this topic to be "things that the poster personally finds annoying" and not necessarily "things that everyone is annoyed by." In other words, "Tons of models suddenly doing kink" bothers me personally, and I suspect *some* of them are doing it just because they think they'll be more successful that way (and for all I know, they may be). I'm well aware that plenty of people don't feel the way I do; I just thought it would be good to put it out there that there are also those of us who us who aren't comfy with that because I rarely hear anyone mention that. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one out there.
LilyMarie said:And yes, models shouldn't do kinky stuff if they don't actually want to (i.e. just for the money), because not only will it probably show on cam (which is so awkward), but it also won't be too great for their own well-being. Depending on what it is that they do. I know if I decided to engage in kink activities on cam that I'm not comfortable with in my private life, I'd feel BAD after logging off, if not earlier.
For some people, when they first saw me, I was "in a monogamous relationship with a lesbian so I got all my dick needs fullfilled online". Utter bollocks, but I was still experimenting with what I was comfortable sharing and what my image was. Who WAS VeronicaChaos? Was she me, or a made-up me, or or or....? My point is that even if a girl appears to be doing things she honestly told you before she didn't like, it may very well be that she's become comfortable sharing a part of herself that she wasn't before. Especially if she's new.HiGirlsRHot said:I seen plenty of models that said when I first saw them say, "I don't like girls, and no way I'm doing anal". Six month or year later they are advertising DP shows, and have plenty of girl girl video. In some case while exploring their sexuality did find they enjoyed a new kink? Sure but in many cases these were young woman in their mid to late 20 with plenty of sexual experience. I expect many are doing it just for the money. Camming is job, lots of people find parts of their jobs distasteful or even plain out horrendous, like salesperson or customer service rep having to lie to people.
LacieLaPlante said:HarmlessSquirrel said:I think I was pretty clear that I was aware that some models did it because they enjoyed it, and I completely respect their right to do what they want to do. I take this topic to be "things that the poster personally finds annoying" and not necessarily "things that everyone is annoyed by." In other words, "Tons of models suddenly doing kink" bothers me personally, and I suspect *some* of them are doing it just because they think they'll be more successful that way (and for all I know, they may be). I'm well aware that plenty of people don't feel the way I do; I just thought it would be good to put it out there that there are also those of us who us who aren't comfy with that because I rarely hear anyone mention that. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one out there.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I think what you might see happening is a bit of a fad because there are model epidemics - One model does a cool thing that makes her money, it trickles down and you'll see models of all ranks doing it eventually. Sometimes that turns into something models really truly enjoy. The others would probably stop doing them after a few tries. Why continue something you don't like ? Many, many people in this world are into some more of kink or BDSM, and this fad might open them up to a true enjoyment of it.
I just hope what you're saying is not, "Models, don't try this thing you might possibly enjoy because some of us won't enjoy it" but rather, "If you don't enjoy kink, don't feel forced to do it on cam because some of us also don't enjoy it"