What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[PunkInDrublic]

Well, there ARE tons of pedophiles on any camsite. I can't even tell you how many times a month I get guys requesting underage roleplay, or PM-ing me to tell me that they get off to kids. I've even had some go as far as say that they're babysitting and resisting the urge to nut on them. Some sick fucks out there I tell ya...

Disturbing but I guess the bright side is they aren't at playgrounds or shady sites, still disgusting to think about tho. Never reported anyone but if I saw some dude make the babysitter comment I might of had to.

 

[yossarian]

Well, there ARE tons of pedophiles on any camsite. I can't even tell you how many times a month I get guys requesting underage roleplay, or PM-ing me to tell me that they get off to kids. I've even had some go as far as say that they're babysitting and resisting the urge to nut on them. Some sick fucks out there I tell ya...

There are also tons of pedophiles on reddit, twitter, facebook, etc. etc. etc.

 

[LilyMarie]

Hypocrisy, yo (which is an annoying trait whichever profession you're in), ie. complaining about the members who use cam sites without tipping and with the very next breath, listing all the movies you've recently pirated :?

OH GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH. :?
I know that some girls think it doesn't hurt the movie industry to lose out on money the way it hurts a camgirl, but even if that were true, how would it make the act of pirating movies OK?

Maybe I'm biased because I was an intern on a TV show a little over 4 years ago and I know what a huge load of work everyone puts into everything, but I'd probably feel the same way if I didn't have that background.
I know music and TV shows could get really expensive for some time, but when did it become not only OK to steal, but so OK that people just happily talk about the things they steal? Even if you really don't have any morals - especially now, with things like Netflix/Hulu and Spotify around, which give you pretty much all the things for a low, fixed monthly price, why are people still pirating? If you don't want people to steal your stuff, don't steal other peoples' stuff, either. Doesn't even matter if you're a camgirl or not, but going on about freeloaders/cappers and then about stolen movies makes it appear even more hypocritical of course.

Sometimes I see models talking about their pirated copies of photo or video editing software and it's the same. Buy things. You expect members to buy your content instead of looking for places where they can download it for free.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Hypocrisy, yo (which is an annoying trait whichever profession you're in), ie. complaining about the members who use cam sites without tipping and with the very next breath, listing all the movies you've recently pirated :?

OH GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH. :?
I know that some girls think it doesn't hurt the movie industry to lose out on money the way it hurts a camgirl, but even if that were true, how would it make the act of pirating movies OK?

Maybe I'm biased because I was an intern on a TV show a little over 4 years ago and I know what a huge load of work everyone puts into everything, but I'd probably feel the same way if I didn't have that background.
I know music and TV shows could get really expensive for some time, but when did it become not only OK to steal, but so OK that people just happily talk about the things they steal? Even if you really don't have any morals - especially now, with things like Netflix/Hulu and Spotify around, which give you pretty much all the things for a low, fixed monthly price, why are people still pirating? If you don't want people to steal your stuff, don't steal other peoples' stuff, either. Doesn't even matter if you're a camgirl or not, but going on about freeloaders/cappers and then about stolen movies makes it appear even more hypocritical of course.

Sometimes I see models talking about their pirated copies of photo or video editing software and it's the same. Buy things. You expect members to buy your content instead of looking for places where they can download it for free.

Well said, bb :thumbleft:

There's even a free version of Spotify now and thousads upon thousands of songs have been uploaded to YouTube by the artist/their record label. I see little reason to pirate music in 2014. And "well, I have very obscure tastes and the music I listen to isn't on streaming sites" is the worst excuse in the world, as the more obscure a band is, the less money they're likely to see for their art and the less money they're earning, the more important it becomes that people actually pay for their music, so they're able to make more.

 

[Fay_Galore]

And "well, I have very obscure tastes and the music I listen to isn't on streaming sites" is the worst excuse in the world, as the more obscure a band is, the less money they're likely to see for their art and the less money they're earning, the more important it becomes that people actually pay for their music, so they're able to make more.

yes this, very much. if the band it too obscure for spotify, buy their fucking records. if it's on spotify. no need to get your eyepatch out.
but, let's be honest, are you guys telling me you've NEVER illegally downloaded an album/movie/tv show?

I'll just go out and say it, and I'm not ashamed. I torrent game of thrones.

there.

edit; and some 60s garage which my record guy couldn't even find legally.

 

[LilyMarie]

but, let's be honest, are you guys telling me you've NEVER illegally downloaded an album/movie/tv show?

I illegally downloaded music between 2005 and early 2007.
I was 14 to 16 at the time and I listened to a lot of bands whose CDs the German Amazon often simply didn't sell, and the electronics stores here didn't sell them either. I could have ordered from the US on amazon.com or on the bands' websites and then paid about 15€ of shipping costs for every CD (if they shipped to Europe at all). That would have been pretty much the only way to get them, and because my mom gave me a reasonable, normal amount of pocket money, it was impossible to buy everything :/ I was also not as morally conscious as I am as an adult.
In 2007, I finally got enough pocket money from my mom to pay for all the music I really felt I had to have (plus shipping, if necessary :roll: ) and I listened to all the rest on YouTube.

 

[mynameisbob84]

And "well, I have very obscure tastes and the music I listen to isn't on streaming sites" is the worst excuse in the world, as the more obscure a band is, the less money they're likely to see for their art and the less money they're earning, the more important it becomes that people actually pay for their music, so they're able to make more.

yes this, very much. if the band it too obscure for spotify, buy their fucking records. if it's on spotify. no need to get your eyepatch out.
but, let's be honest, are you guys telling me you've NEVER illegally downloaded an album/movie/tv show?

I'll just go out and say it, and I'm not ashamed. I torrent game of thrones.

there.

edit; and some 60s garage which my record guy couldn't even find legally.

Sure, loads of stuff. Mainly when I was younger and things like Spotify and Netflix weren't around. I'll still pirate stuff very rarely but there are usually mitigating circumstances that allow me to justify it - like streaming episodes of Community that won't air in the UK for another year when I know I'll be buying the box set as soon as it comes out over here, or downloading an album that had a very limited release and has been long-since deleted and isn't on streaming sites/iTunes and the only way to get ahold of it legally is to buy a second-hand copy at an extortionate price (which the artist will see none of anyway cos' it's second hand).

 

[SaffronBurke]

One of my favorite PC games, Arcanum, you pretty much have to pirate, because the company that produced it no longer exists. I about peed myself in excitement one day when I saw it at a thrift store for $3.99, but I was so broke that day that I didn't even have that much. Think it'll still be there 2 months later?

 

[JerryBoBerry]

One of my favorite PC games, Arcanum, you pretty much have to pirate, because the company that produced it no longer exists. I about peed myself in excitement one day when I saw it at a thrift store for $3.99, but I was so broke that day that I didn't even have that much. Think it'll still be there 2 months later?

This one?
http://www.gog.com/game/arcanum_of_steamworks_and_magick_obscura
Also a really overpriced version on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Arcanum-Steamworks-Magick-Obscura-PC/dp/B00004TTHT
Troika made it, but Activision (Blizzard) publishes it still.

About a month ago GOG had a massive sale on a lot of their games. If I remember right that was 60% off, so around $3.60.

 

[SaffronBurke]

One of my favorite PC games, Arcanum, you pretty much have to pirate, because the company that produced it no longer exists. I about peed myself in excitement one day when I saw it at a thrift store for $3.99, but I was so broke that day that I didn't even have that much. Think it'll still be there 2 months later?

This one?
http://www.gog.com/game/arcanum_of_steamworks_and_magick_obscura
Also a really overpriced version on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Arcanum-Steamworks-Magick-Obscura-PC/dp/B00004TTHT
Troika made it, but Activision (Blizzard) publishes it still.

About a month ago GOG had a massive sale on a lot of their games. If I remember right that was 60% off, so around $3.60.

Cool! When I first heard about it and tried it, my husband and I scoured the web and couldn't find it for sale anywhere. I'm happy that it's becoming more available, because it's amazing!

 

[JoleneBrody]

Hypocrisy, yo (which is an annoying trait whichever profession you're in), ie. complaining about the members who use cam sites without tipping and with the very next breath, listing all the movies you've recently pirated :?

OH GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH. :?
I know that some girls think it doesn't hurt the movie industry to lose out on money the way it hurts a camgirl, but even if that were true, how would it make the act of pirating movies OK?

Maybe I'm biased because I was an intern on a TV show a little over 4 years ago and I know what a huge load of work everyone puts into everything, but I'd probably feel the same way if I didn't have that background.
I know music and TV shows could get really expensive for some time, but when did it become not only OK to steal, but so OK that people just happily talk about the things they steal? Even if you really don't have any morals - especially now, with things like Netflix/Hulu and Spotify around, which give you pretty much all the things for a low, fixed monthly price, why are people still pirating? If you don't want people to steal your stuff, don't steal other peoples' stuff, either. Doesn't even matter if you're a camgirl or not, but going on about freeloaders/cappers and then about stolen movies makes it appear even more hypocritical of course.

Sometimes I see models talking about their pirated copies of photo or video editing software and it's the same. Buy things. You expect members to buy your content instead of looking for places where they can download it for free.

All of that. The movie biz, specifically costuming was my first passion and career goal and many of my friends and family are traveling musicians who rely on people purchasing things to live.
If you love the music that's put out and the movies with their huge budgets, buy them! If you don't and over time more and more people don't... not only are you stealing but you are slowly killing an industry until it can no longer create the things you love.

Purchasing art today funds the art of tomorrow. Most of your favorite movies could not have been created without the financial success of previous works.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Hypocrisy, yo (which is an annoying trait whichever profession you're in), ie. complaining about the members who use cam sites without tipping and with the very next breath, listing all the movies you've recently pirated :?

OH GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH. :?
I know that some girls think it doesn't hurt the movie industry to lose out on money the way it hurts a camgirl, but even if that were true, how would it make the act of pirating movies OK?

Maybe I'm biased because I was an intern on a TV show a little over 4 years ago and I know what a huge load of work everyone puts into everything, but I'd probably feel the same way if I didn't have that background.
I know music and TV shows could get really expensive for some time, but when did it become not only OK to steal, but so OK that people just happily talk about the things they steal? Even if you really don't have any morals - especially now, with things like Netflix/Hulu and Spotify around, which give you pretty much all the things for a low, fixed monthly price, why are people still pirating? If you don't want people to steal your stuff, don't steal other peoples' stuff, either. Doesn't even matter if you're a camgirl or not, but going on about freeloaders/cappers and then about stolen movies makes it appear even more hypocritical of course.

Sometimes I see models talking about their pirated copies of photo or video editing software and it's the same. Buy things. You expect members to buy your content instead of looking for places where they can download it for free.

Well said, bb :thumbleft:

There's even a free version of Spotify now and thousads upon thousands of songs have been uploaded to YouTube by the artist/their record label. I see little reason to pirate music in 2014. And "well, I have very obscure tastes and the music I listen to isn't on streaming sites" is the worst excuse in the world, as the more obscure a band is, the less money they're likely to see for their art and the less money they're earning, the more important it becomes that people actually pay for their music, so they're able to make more.

As someone who listens to a good deal of obscure music, here's how it usually goes:
Hear awesome song on Pandora, fall in love with it. Look for it on YouTube to share it with friends/family. Can't find it on YouTube. Sulk for a couple days, hear more awesome songs from the same album as the first song. Check Amazon for the album. See that I've heard and love 50% of the songs on the album, and at least like most of the rest. Put it in my cart, mull it over for a few days, buy it.

I've actually gotten emails from sellers all "Are you aware that you purchased an audio cassette??!!!???" Dur. Are you aware that you have an audio cassette listed for sale? Cause I will put that in my Walkman and ROCK OUT.



TL;DR: It's harder to find obscure music for free than it is to just buy it. Shut up and cough up.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

As someone who listens to a good deal of obscure music, here's how it usually goes:
Hear awesome song on Pandora, fall in love with it. Look for it on YouTube to share it with friends/family. Can't find it on YouTube. Sulk for a couple days, hear more awesome songs from the same album as the first song. Check Amazon for the album. See that I've heard and love 50% of the songs on the album, and at least like most of the rest. Put it in my cart, mull it over for a few days, buy it.

I've actually gotten emails from sellers all "Are you aware that you purchased an audio cassette??!!!???" Dur. Are you aware that you have an audio cassette listed for sale? Cause I will put that in my Walkman and ROCK OUT.



TL;DR: It's harder to find obscure music for free than it is to just buy it. Shut up and cough up.

NOT arguing the finer points of piracy here, just a point of order. It's actually much easier to find music for free. That's why so many do it. Simple fact is if you name any song that's ever recorded. There's a 99% chance it can be downloaded in under 2 minutes. Whether the general populace can find where all of them are at, that's the rub.

 

[SaffronBurke]

As someone who listens to a good deal of obscure music, here's how it usually goes:
Hear awesome song on Pandora, fall in love with it. Look for it on YouTube to share it with friends/family. Can't find it on YouTube. Sulk for a couple days, hear more awesome songs from the same album as the first song. Check Amazon for the album. See that I've heard and love 50% of the songs on the album, and at least like most of the rest. Put it in my cart, mull it over for a few days, buy it.

I've actually gotten emails from sellers all "Are you aware that you purchased an audio cassette??!!!???" Dur. Are you aware that you have an audio cassette listed for sale? Cause I will put that in my Walkman and ROCK OUT.



TL;DR: It's harder to find obscure music for free than it is to just buy it. Shut up and cough up.

NOT arguing the finer points of piracy here, just a point of order. It's actually much easier to find music for free. That's why so many do it. Simple fact is if you name any song that's ever recorded. There's a 99% chance it can be downloaded in under 2 minutes. Whether the general populace can find where all of them are at, that's the rub.

I must listen to weird stuff, then, or maybe I'm lazy, because I have tried to pirate music and been unable to find it for free, but I only check a couple places before I give up and just buy it. If I pirate something, it's as a placeholder until I can buy it, at which point I pay for it and delete the pirated version. A friend recommended the Music Maniac app to use on my phone, and you'd be amazed at the number of songs that I can't find in there, but I pop onto Amazon or look in the Google Play store and whoomp, there it is.

Maybe I just listen to artists who have respectful fans who don't upload their stuff to places it can be pirated. Or nobody thinks anybody wants to listen to it and doesn't bother.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

As someone who listens to a good deal of obscure music, here's how it usually goes:
Hear awesome song on Pandora, fall in love with it. Look for it on YouTube to share it with friends/family. Can't find it on YouTube. Sulk for a couple days, hear more awesome songs from the same album as the first song. Check Amazon for the album. See that I've heard and love 50% of the songs on the album, and at least like most of the rest. Put it in my cart, mull it over for a few days, buy it.

I've actually gotten emails from sellers all "Are you aware that you purchased an audio cassette??!!!???" Dur. Are you aware that you have an audio cassette listed for sale? Cause I will put that in my Walkman and ROCK OUT.



TL;DR: It's harder to find obscure music for free than it is to just buy it. Shut up and cough up.

NOT arguing the finer points of piracy here, just a point of order. It's actually much easier to find music for free. That's why so many do it. Simple fact is if you name any song that's ever recorded. There's a 99% chance it can be downloaded in under 2 minutes. Whether the general populace can find where all of them are at, that's the rub.

I agree with everyone to an extent here.

I pirate music, BUT...I also am pro-pirating of my own material. I feel that is fair. I hate hypocrisy. I also will buy music if it is easier to do so than pirating it, or if it's something I particularly want to support. I am a huge fan of buying e-albums, and an even bigger fan of donate/download.

I think it's naive to think pirating will go away; I think the future is in crowdfunding/donating/pay-per-download/paid streaming services. We need to make it easier to pay for things than torrenting them. That's why steam and netflix are so popular and such brilliant business models.

I've said this before and I believe it's true; I think the worst possible thing for an artist trying to survive is obscurity, not piracy. Pirate responsibly.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I agree with everyone to an extent here.

I pirate music, BUT...I also am pro-pirating of my own material. I feel that is fair. I hate hypocrisy. I also will buy music if it is easier to do so than pirating it, or if it's something I particularly want to support. I am a huge fan of buying e-albums, and an even bigger fan of donate/download.

I think it's naive to think pirating will go away; I think the future is in crowdfunding/donating/pay-per-download/paid streaming services. We need to make it easier to pay for things than torrenting them. That's why steam and netflix are so popular and such brilliant business models.

I've said this before and I believe it's true; I think the worst possible thing for an artist trying to survive is obscurity, not piracy. Pirate responsibly.

My own thoughts on piracy are best paraphrased from a [now deceased] publisher of Science Fiction books. Jim Baen, of Baen books, he use to have discussions on a forum for his publishing website. He started selling his books in electronic format before any other publisher that I know of. His theory on selling his E-Books was to never encrypt them. This resulted in his books being out there for download on sites pretty much the day they went on sale. So this naturally led to many discussions on the topic.

He always said (paraphrasing from many posts here) he'd rather have stuff unencrypted so it made it easier to steal. Some people that will steal his stuff would never have been his customers anyway. So there is no business loss there. For the people who do buy his books he'd rather not treat them like criminals and encrypt everything. Automatically assuming your paying customers will steal it if you don't encrypt is really bad for trust and business.

And then there's a third category. People who are honest, but just can't afford it right now due to hard times. And there were many people like this he said. These people he was always especially happy they stole his books. Because those are the ones who, when they get back on their feet, are his future customers.

Think about it. The books they could get the easiest were his, and they liked them well enough they'd steal them and maybe even discover more authors they liked. When they did have money and started actually buying again who do you think they'd spend it on? The books that were encrypted and they never read, or the author they pirated eight of his series and the 9th is just coming out when they happen to have money to spare again?

So it was all very simple to him. One, you have people who would have never been paying customers, no loss there. Two, you have people who already pay, no loss there. And three, you have people who will potentially pay in the future. It's a no-brainer situation.

Pretty much summed up the whole thing for me right there. I'm okay with people pirating stuff.

The people downloading movies from PirateBay, does anyone honestly think those people would have ever in their lives bought those movies anyway? Ooh, here's a piece of shit movie in French starring no one I've ever heard of. Well NOW I don't have to spend $30 on that import! The world doesn't work that way.

As a side note. There was also several other authors who put sales records of their books up for public display. They showed their pirated books actually made them more money than they were making prior. They could track when older books were put out in electronic edition, sales of their new books increased. Pirating actually helped increase their sales.

Author Eric Flint did many articles on the subject relating to them putting books on their own website for free to anyone and the increase in sales that followed.

http://www.baen.com/library/prime_palaver.asp
#6 is especially interesting into the actual financials of piracy.
http://www.baen.com/library/prime_palaver6.asp

 

[AmberCutie]

These are 2 points that I sometimes try to make when arguing about whether cam girls should worry about seeking out and DMCAing their pirated content, or if they spend needless effort banning "freeloaders":

Some people that will steal his stuff would never have been his customers anyway. So there is no business loss there. For the people who do buy his books he'd rather not treat them like criminals and encrypt everything. Automatically assuming your paying customers will steal it if you don't encrypt is really bad for trust and business.

People who seek out free cam girl videos aren't necessarily our target audience. If they are in the habit and mindset of "I shouldn't have to pay for porn/naked girls" then it's unlikely that they'll be the ones who come around and buy our content or shows anyway. So many girls see people getting free capped videos as "income lost" but that isn't necessarily the case. Putting copyright and other distracting watermarks on our video feed in an effort to try and deter capping could possibly be seen as an annoyance and bad business to actual paying members who watch and support us. Never know if you're turning people off of wanting to stick around, watch, and support you.

And then there's a third category. People who are honest, but just can't afford it right now due to hard times. And there were many people like this he said. These people he was always especially happy they stole his books. Because those are the ones who, when they get back on their feet, are his future customers.

There ARE the honest and good-intentioned folks out there who will come across (vs. "seek out") your free content, enjoy it when they do, and make a point to come around in the future to support you when they find the financial means. (How many times have we ladies received a tip with a note saying something like "I've watched you quietly for quite a while and finally am able to tip you thanks for all the wonderful shows!" or "I found some awesome videos of you on xxxblahblah site and just had to come see you in action!" I've gotten a ton of them, and it always makes me feel good that I am not such a stickler about freeloaders and pirated content being out there.)

 

[Deleted member 8603]

As someone who listens to a good deal of obscure music, here's how it usually goes:
Hear awesome song on Pandora, fall in love with it. Look for it on YouTube to share it with friends/family. Can't find it on YouTube. Sulk for a couple days, hear more awesome songs from the same album as the first song. Check Amazon for the album. See that I've heard and love 50% of the songs on the album, and at least like most of the rest. Put it in my cart, mull it over for a few days, buy it.

I've actually gotten emails from sellers all "Are you aware that you purchased an audio cassette??!!!???" Dur. Are you aware that you have an audio cassette listed for sale? Cause I will put that in my Walkman and ROCK OUT.



TL;DR: It's harder to find obscure music for free than it is to just buy it. Shut up and cough up.

NOT arguing the finer points of piracy here, just a point of order. It's actually much easier to find music for free. That's why so many do it. Simple fact is if you name any song that's ever recorded. There's a 99% chance it can be downloaded in under 2 minutes. Whether the general populace can find where all of them are at, that's the rub.

I agree with everyone to an extent here.

I pirate music, BUT...I also am pro-pirating of my own material. I feel that is fair. I hate hypocrisy. I also will buy music if it is easier to do so than pirating it, or if it's something I particularly want to support. I am a huge fan of buying e-albums, and an even bigger fan of donate/download.

I think it's naive to think pirating will go away; I think the future is in crowdfunding/donating/pay-per-download/paid streaming services. We need to make it easier to pay for things than torrenting them. That's why steam and netflix are so popular and such brilliant business models.

I've said this before and I believe it's true; I think the worst possible thing for an artist trying to survive is obscurity, not piracy. Pirate responsibly.

I sat here for like, ten minutes trying to say my thoughts, but you'd already perfected it.

I pirate, but I also don't take down my own pirated stuff. I just link my name to it.

I also don't mind silent watchers in my room.
As long as someone isn't taking my time away from other projects, piracy isn't a big deal to me, just attach my name.

 

[SaffronBurke]

My own thoughts on piracy are best paraphrased from a [now deceased] publisher of Science Fiction books. Jim Baen, of Baen books, he use to have discussions on a forum for his publishing website. He started selling his books in electronic format before any other publisher that I know of. His theory on selling his E-Books was to never encrypt them. This resulted in his books being out there for download on sites pretty much the day they went on sale. So this naturally led to many discussions on the topic.

He always said (paraphrasing from many posts here) he'd rather have stuff unencrypted so it made it easier to steal. Some people that will steal his stuff would never have been his customers anyway. So there is no business loss there. For the people who do buy his books he'd rather not treat them like criminals and encrypt everything. Automatically assuming your paying customers will steal it if you don't encrypt is really bad for trust and business.

And then there's a third category. People who are honest, but just can't afford it right now due to hard times. And there were many people like this he said. These people he was always especially happy they stole his books. Because those are the ones who, when they get back on their feet, are his future customers.

Think about it. The books they could get the easiest were his, and they liked them well enough they'd steal them and maybe even discover more authors they liked. When they did have money and started actually buying again who do you think they'd spend it on? The books that were encrypted and they never read, or the author they pirated eight of his series and the 9th is just coming out when they happen to have money to spare again?

So it was all very simple to him. One, you have people who would have never been paying customers, no loss there. Two, you have people who already pay, no loss there. And three, you have people who will potentially pay in the future. It's a no-brainer situation.

Pretty much summed up the whole thing for me right there. I'm okay with people pirating stuff.

The people downloading movies from PirateBay, does anyone honestly think those people would have ever in their lives bought those movies anyway? Ooh, here's a piece of shit movie in French starring no one I've ever heard of. Well NOW I don't have to spend $30 on that import! The world doesn't work that way.

As a side note. There was also several other authors who put sales records of their books up for public display. They showed their pirated books actually made them more money than they were making prior. They could track when older books were put out in electronic edition, sales of their new books increased. Pirating actually helped increase their sales.

Author Eric Flint did many articles on the subject relating to them putting books on their own website for free to anyone and the increase in sales that followed.

http://www.baen.com/library/prime_palaver.asp
#6 is especially interesting into the actual financials of piracy.
http://www.baen.com/library/prime_palaver6.asp

My husband did that a lot when he was alive. I'd call him if I was at a book sale or ordering books online, and he'd have me hunt for authors whose e-books he'd enjoyed. I just prefer having tangible copies of things instead of electronic, so instead of pirating, I buy used.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

And "well, I have very obscure tastes and the music I listen to isn't on streaming sites" is the worst excuse in the world, as the more obscure a band is, the less money they're likely to see for their art and the less money they're earning, the more important it becomes that people actually pay for their music, so they're able to make more.

This is very true. On a forum for an obscure band I like, there was actually a thread at one point asking how many of us would be willing to pre-order the next album so they could even afford to record it.

Also, there does seem to be some merit to artists providing free access to some of their work to build up a following of potential customers. There's a music site I found out about a couple years ago, where bands provide their new albums for temporary free streaming. They're generally up for a month or two, long enough for people to play them enough times to decide if they like them. I found quite a few albums/bands I never would have heard otherwise that way and have bought several of them.

 

[JoleneBrody]

It's funny but I'm actually more concerned with others artists works than my own.
Like, for visibility reasons I usually take my caps down from big tubes site, specifically if I'm not credited and the uploader obviously went through a lot (including blocking my xhamster account from commenting and putting a weird picture of me over my watermark) To make sure I'm not given proper credit. I have had a handful of tube site caps blow up and go semi-porn site viral and friends DID see it. It's not the end of the world but I like to avoid it. If people seeing it who I didn't want to see it was not a concern I would not care at all about my public shows, because it is great advertising! I would care about my videos but damn, I sink a lot of time and money into those!

The only reason for this post is to giggle at the opposites I guess. I think my passion comes more from being very close with amazing musicians who sometimes really struggle financially despite being shared all over the web. I want them to be able to continue living their dream and creating beautiful things.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

It's funny but I'm actually more concerned with others artists works than my own.
Like, for visibility reasons I usually take my caps down from big tubes site, specifically if I'm not credited and the uploader obviously went through a lot (including blocking my xhamster account from commenting and putting a weird picture of me over my watermark) To make sure I'm not given proper credit. I have had a handful of tube site caps blow up and go semi-porn site viral and friends DID see it. It's not the end of the world but I like to avoid it. If people seeing it who I didn't want to see it was not a concern I would not care at all about my public shows, because it is great advertising! I would care about my videos but damn, I sink a lot of time and money into those!

The only reason for this post is to giggle at the opposites I guess. I think my passion comes more from being very close with amazing musicians who sometimes really struggle financially despite being shared all over the web. I want them to be able to continue living their dream and creating beautiful things.

I often thought while reading ACF threads on capping and such that their probably is a parallel discussion going on some musician forum. That goes something like this.

"You know what really pisses me off is when porn stars use my songs as soundtrack for the videos and cam shows, without even any credit much less royalties, I like porn as much as the next guy.. But yesterday my mom ask me if I was writing music for porn cause one of the videos went viral with my song"

I wonder how many camgirls are using the $25/month commercial version of Pandora while playing music in their room, or using public domain music.

 

[JoleneBrody]

It's funny but I'm actually more concerned with others artists works than my own.
Like, for visibility reasons I usually take my caps down from big tubes site, specifically if I'm not credited and the uploader obviously went through a lot (including blocking my xhamster account from commenting and putting a weird picture of me over my watermark) To make sure I'm not given proper credit. I have had a handful of tube site caps blow up and go semi-porn site viral and friends DID see it. It's not the end of the world but I like to avoid it. If people seeing it who I didn't want to see it was not a concern I would not care at all about my public shows, because it is great advertising! I would care about my videos but damn, I sink a lot of time and money into those!

The only reason for this post is to giggle at the opposites I guess. I think my passion comes more from being very close with amazing musicians who sometimes really struggle financially despite being shared all over the web. I want them to be able to continue living their dream and creating beautiful things.

I often thought while reading ACF threads on capping and such that their probably is a parallel discussion going on some musician forum. That goes something like this.

"You know what really pisses me off is when porn stars use my songs as soundtrack for the videos and cam shows, without even any credit much less royalties, I like porn as much as the next guy.. But yesterday my mom ask me if I was writing music for porn cause one of the videos went viral with my song"

I wonder how many camgirls are using the $25/month commercial version of Pandora while playing music in their room, or using public domain music.

I do pay for spotify but not the commercial version, I'm not sure if spotify has that option... but you know I'm gonna look into it now, I hadn't thought of that! And as of recently the music in videos became really important to me so I now only use royalty free and creative commons licensing.
I have a huge and really good database of royalty free and creative commons music, for my production companies clients. But if any models have questions about this feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share some of my favorites!

 

[Fay_Galore]

I cannot get past this but maybe I'm not overreacting, but girls who are constantly checking their phone. this is something that annoys me in real life too when some's with friends, and having people in your room is just as much a social event.

 

[yossarian]

I cannot get past this but maybe I'm not overreacting, but girls who are constantly checking their phone. this is something that annoys me in real life too when some's with friends, and having people in your room is just as much a social event.

It took me a while to realize that a lot of the models who seem to be checking their phones are actually just fiddling with their music.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I cannot get past this but maybe I'm not overreacting, but girls who are constantly checking their phone. this is something that annoys me in real life too when some's with friends, and having people in your room is just as much a social event.

So agree with this. But I'm a bit biased. I don't own a cell phone nor do I have a house phone. So I don't have one to fidget with. :lol: I've come to the conclusion in this day of instant messaging, email, all the chat options, free google voice, video chat options... All these can be done on a pc and my tablets where ever I have wifi. So it just never made sense to get locked into a monthly payment plan for a phone when it's just not needed. I figure a one time investment of a couple hundred dollars on a good 7 inch tablet saves me anywhere from $600 to $2400 [+] a year.

I look at my brother's monthly family cell phone plan and just cringe.

 

[Diana Blake]

I hate seeing girls checking their phones too. I yell at my screen. I know sometimes no one's talking, I know sometimes it's that one important friend/family member but when you're always on your cell I just cringe. These girls are sending the message that they're bored and would rather be somewhere else. I've been caught muttering "Engage your room! They want to see you, not your iPhone 5."

 

[Bocefish]

So it just never made sense to get locked into a monthly payment plan for a phone when it's just not needed.

There are some good, inexpensive plans available. I couldn't imagine carrying a tablet around, but it's all about whatever works best for you.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375644,00.asp

And yes, I wholeheartedly agree that in person or on cam... it's rather rude if somebody keeps checking their cell phone messages or whatever. :naughty:

 

[SaffronBurke]

I cannot get past this but maybe I'm not overreacting, but girls who are constantly checking their phone. this is something that annoys me in real life too when some's with friends, and having people in your room is just as much a social event.

It took me a while to realize that a lot of the models who seem to be checking their phones are actually just fiddling with their music.

Guilty! I kinda stopped even playing music recently because I do that too much. I can never predict what I'll be in the mood for, so I can't accurately put together a playlist that I won't be constantly skipping songs on.

 

[LilyMarie]

(...) and the uploader obviously went through a lot (including blocking my xhamster account from commenting and putting a weird picture of me over my watermark) To make sure I'm not given proper credit.

You can't upload videos with a watermark on xHamster. 2 years ago I tried to upload my sex video to xHamster and save it with a password so that the guy in my video could watch it without having to download it, and it got rejected because of my watermark.
So the reason the uploader put a picture over your watermark is probably just so he could upload the video on xhamster at all, and not so you wouldn't be given proper credit. (This is just something to add, I'm not saying it makes this guy less of a shitty person or anything. )