What is going on with First Choice?

[Evgenij]

I asked Ad where is settlement? How am i gonna recieve any $ without documents and he respond :"
Today and tomorrow we are finalizing discussions with the central bank in Belize which may likely lead to a different (better) scenario. Once there is something we can share I will let you know.


Best regards,

 

[Chriss]

And you have more than 30k? Just curious...

 

[marvelb0y]

I asked Ad where is settlement? How am i gonna recieve any $ without documents and he respond :"
Today and tomorrow we are finalizing discussions with the central bank in Belize which may likely lead to a different (better) scenario. Once there is something we can share I will let you know.


Best regards,

Let's say we trust what Ad Kees is saying. The only better scenario in my mind is a larger bank coming in to purchase and recapitalize Choice Bank. This is how banks in the US are saved.

 

[Chelsea9]

Let's say we trust what Ad Kees is saying. The only better scenario in my mind is a larger bank coming in to purchase and recapitalize Choice Bank. This is how banks in the US are saved.

Either that or the Central Bank bails out Choice Bank

 

[mrfunk]

Personnally I don't know how many in this forum (it's not a critic but only my opinion) who have thousand bucks frozen cannot getting crazy and angry. I'm too far from Belize but If I'll live near 500-1000 km probably I would already flown to the bank and kick their asses.
I spoke with one friend in the forum (Luca) and he told me that's dangerous to go in Belize and claim our money so we can pay for example 100-200 $ each and try to send someone to recover our money with non orthodox methods.
I'm tired to wait and hear their excuses.

 

[Evgenij]

And you have more than 30k? Just curious...

Yes,much more

 

[isitgoneforver]

Personnally I don't know how many in this forum (it's not a critic but only my opinion) who have thousand bucks frozen cannot getting crazy and angry. I'm too far from Belize but If I'll live near 500-1000 km probably I would already flown to the bank and kick their asses.
I spoke with one friend in the forum (Luca) and he told me that's dangerous to go in Belize and claim our money so we can pay for example 100-200 $ each and try to send someone to recover our money with non orthodox methods.
I'm tired to wait and hear their excuses.

First of all, yeah he is right, Belize is not safest place on earth to go to. I heard many people pay for some kind of "bodyguards" when they go to such places to do some business or when money involved.
And the interesting part that none of these people you talk to are located in Belize.
Rob Anderson is in New York, Ad Kees is in Spain

 

[mrfunk]

Ad Kees on whatsapp appear as Spain but I asked him and he told me he was in Belize.
So I don't know. But if he's in Spain I can reach him in an easier way.
Choice Bank is in Belize so I thought to go there to have money back.
Rob Anderson I don't know.
To recover 80-90k I will fly to Belize anyway or everywhere they are.

 

[isitgoneforver]

I'm loosing my mind over it too and don't know what to do
But lets be real here. If you go there it doesnt mean you get your money right away. Maybe your chances will be higher if you go there, but i doubt it.
I think you will go to the bank and they feed you with same words you receive from them by email but in person.
It's legal process, it's not like in movies where you show up with a gun to their face or something like that.

 

[marvelb0y]

Ad Kees on whatsapp appear as Spain but I asked him and he told me he was in Belize.
So I don't know. But if he's in Spain I can reach him in an easier way.
Choice Bank is in Belize so I thought to go there to have money back.
Rob Anderson I don't know.
To recover 80-90k I will fly to Belize anyway or everywhere they are.

This situation is frustrating all around. But to add some lightness to this thread, your ideas remind me of this scene from Casino:



Anyway, physically going there isn't likely to help you get your money back faster.

 

[luca_locombia]

BREAKING NEWS

There are good news for all, I had an important unofficial update from few minutes.
Now I haven't more time but later I'll tell more about.
Choice Bank seems telling the truth, but later I'll tell more here.
Keep the faith alive!

Luca

 

[mrfunk]

I'm loosing my mind over it too and don't know what to do
But lets be real here. If you go there it doesnt mean you get your money right away. Maybe your chances will be higher if you go there, but i doubt it.
I think you will go to the bank and they feed you with same words you receive from them by email but in person.
It's legal process, it's not like in movies where you show up with a gun to their face or something like that.

Ok I'm not in a movie but I prefer to act and don't stay here waiting.
What legal process ? they steal our money ! The process will happen after I'll meet one of them.
You can do what you want it's your choice if u want to wait their promises. I'll continue menace them until they will do something.
Maybe I'm wrong but this is my idea.

 

[jessy]

I contacted to CAPORASO & PARTNERS LAW OFFICE who into this problem about frozen funds on choicebank limited and i asked if i can to sign to be on the petition and join together for possibly presenting a class action and they answered to me like that:
Yes it is possible, for it you have to sign a POA and send it by currie,
we will notarize and apostille it, than we present to the Central Bank
and Choice Bank/ firstchoicepay.

The cost is 750 USD.

Best regards,
Lic. Giovanni Caporaso
CAPORASO & PARTNERS LAW OFFICE
Attornet at Law
So now i decide if im really would join and if it will help to me...did u hear about them anyway?

 

[luca_locombia]

I want to report you, this night, on a long telephone conversation from my lawyer yesterday, with Vice President of Choice Bank, Ad Kees.

Mr. Ad Kees explained very clearly, to my lawyer, the current situation of his bank: Choice Bank literally found itself without much of its money because of the closure made by Master Card to Choice Bank. Due to a situation connected to a break with WireCard company, the Choice Bank bank has been freezing the money processed by Master Card, putting this in danger the bank and forcing it to a forced liquidity.

Now, according to Ad Kees, the situation is evolving positively: Master Card is reopening the liquidity towards Choice Bank and this will allow the Bank to take back its money and, therefore, of power will begin to pay its creditors, starting from those affected by the FCP card block, in particular the ones with lower amounts.

All this should unblock in a few days, however within the end of the month, these are the words of Ad Kees.

According to the lawyer who spoke with Kees, the explanation of the Vice President of Choice Bank is entirely true because the same lawyer has in the past handled similar proceedings between banks vs. MasterCard.

In my constant requests on the good faith of Ad Kees, the lawyer told me that "Yes, Ad Kees is speaking in good faith and really working with the Bank to solve everything in the best possible time".

Now I think, like the hundreds and hundreds of other FCP users here affected by this crisis, that we should expect these days promised by Kees to see the evolution of this process: a process that, paradoxically, has also become a bit slower due to the Belize Central Bank which, in some way, has placed under special control Choice Bank to ensure that no fraud will be committed and that all creditors will be respected and paid.

As for the class action option promoted by Avv. Caporaso di Panama I think it can be a useful action for the future, better after June 31 and especially if Ad Kees and Choice Bank were for the umpteenth time disregard the promises gradually made.

 

[jessy]

what is reason mastercard stop to work with choicebank then?
why mastercard did like that?

 

[luca_locombia]

what is reason mastercard stop to work with choicebank then?
why mastercard did like that?

Choice Bank owns several prepaid and debit / credit card lines. The problem was created with a chasm generated by a gambling-related gambling line, to a company that Master Card does not recognize in its commercial policy.

For this, according to the information given to me, Choice Bank had to interrupt relations with Master Card. These are the explanations given to me by a lawyer with great knowledge of the thing.

Then, at last, if there are others bigger reasons, occult explanations, political explanations or even worse, I can not say this nor know it

 

[bbbosic]

That is actually the same what CAPORASO said at the very beginning. Our money is stuck with MasterCard. I have no idea how MasterCard works. I also did not know that MasterCard can hold money for such a long time. Choice Bank is f*****ed because there aren't many alternatives for Mastercard. But it will be their own fault.

 

[marvelb0y]

Quadrant said pretty much the same thing. That money will be freed up when the Mastercard program ends June 31st. So basically we got confirmation this is the case from multiple sources.

 

[avantgart]

What a bunch of close dates. Everything are happening within 2 weeks: mastercard ending, deadline to unfreeze the money, perhaps closing down the bank and fcp website closing as well...
Epassporte got fucked by mastercard too...by stopping cooperation over night. Well it turned out that owner is a fraud...but the fall started with mastercard...

 

[bbbosic]

What a bunch of close dates. Everything are happening within 2 weeks: mastercard ending, deadline to unfreeze the money, perhaps closing down the bank and fcp website closing as well...
Epassporte got fucked by mastercard too...by stopping cooperation over night. Well it turned out that owner is a fraud...but the fall started with mastercard...

Epassporte had problems with Visa i tought. Even the cards no longer worked from one day to the next. I don't think prepaid cards have a lot of future. Too many loopholes that Europe and other parts of the world want to close.

 

[Chelsea9]

I want to report you, this night, on a long telephone conversation from my lawyer yesterday, with Vice President of Choice Bank, Ad Kees.

Mr. Ad Kees explained very clearly, to my lawyer, the current situation of his bank: Choice Bank literally found itself without much of its money because of the closure made by Master Card to Choice Bank. Due to a situation connected to a break with WireCard company, the Choice Bank bank has been freezing the money processed by Master Card, putting this in danger the bank and forcing it to a forced liquidity.

Now, according to Ad Kees, the situation is evolving positively: Master Card is reopening the liquidity towards Choice Bank and this will allow the Bank to take back its money and, therefore, of power will begin to pay its creditors, starting from those affected by the FCP card block, in particular the ones with lower amounts.

All this should unblock in a few days, however within the end of the month, these are the words of Ad Kees.

According to the lawyer who spoke with Kees, the explanation of the Vice President of Choice Bank is entirely true because the same lawyer has in the past handled similar proceedings between banks vs. MasterCard.

In my constant requests on the good faith of Ad Kees, the lawyer told me that "Yes, Ad Kees is speaking in good faith and really working with the Bank to solve everything in the best possible time".

Now I think, like the hundreds and hundreds of other FCP users here affected by this crisis, that we should expect these days promised by Kees to see the evolution of this process: a process that, paradoxically, has also become a bit slower due to the Belize Central Bank which, in some way, has placed under special control Choice Bank to ensure that no fraud will be committed and that all creditors will be respected and paid.

As for the class action option promoted by Avv. Caporaso di Panama I think it can be a useful action for the future, better after June 31 and especially if Ad Kees and Choice Bank were for the umpteenth time disregard the promises gradually made.

so, after i wrote an email to kees telling he s not serious, not answering at skype and on phone, he was very promt in responding to my email.. and look what he said
"
I am currently at my desk and I was to discuss this matter with you. However: in a few days we will be able to announce reopening of the bank, so this will be over pretty soon. There were some other solutions in place, which no longer make sense at this time.



Best regards,





Ad Kees

Vice-President Banking and Investment Services

Spain: +34674874279 (including WhatsApp)
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What about Ad Kees words earlier about reopening the bank? Did you tell your lawyer to ask about that as well?

 

[Mell_B]

What a bunch of close dates. Everything are happening within 2 weeks: mastercard ending, deadline to unfreeze the money, perhaps closing down the bank and fcp website closing as well...
Epassporte got fucked by mastercard too...by stopping cooperation over night. Well it turned out that owner is a fraud...but the fall started with mastercard...

Visa was!

 

[ryan333]

is here someone who has less like 10K and received or asked for wire transfer? Do u think , this smaller amount is also dangersous to receive on personal account ? i m from slovakia

 

[Chriss]

is here someone who has less like 10K and received or asked for wire transfer? Do u think , this smaller amount is also dangersous to receive on personal account ? i m from slovakia

Were you asked?

 

[ryan333]

Ryan Thompson ,,he accepted my ID and formular for transfer and its now in process

 

[Chriss]

Ryan Thompson ,,he accepted my ID and formular for transfer and its now in process

When did he contact you? Lately or more than one week ago?

 

[ryan333]

more like one week ago

 

[mrfunk]

more like one week ago

Less than 10k, same as u.Sent info 10 days ago and no wire confirmation received (no money too on account). Usually under 15k there are no problem but I never received money from Belize and I don't know if this can be a problem.

 

[mrfunk]

I called Mr Kees via whatsapp , he replied me only to wait because he's waiting central bank's approval to do the wire. He told me to be quiet and with me it was a lot arrogant and hang up the phone. I wish they will die all together with this fuc*ing Choice Bank.
Worst service in the world.I sent him other insults.
Maybe they will send our money but I lost any hope.
I cannot wait anymore for their replies, always the same, everyday same story : "wait wait wait wait wait". No, I don't wanna wait anymore.

 

[Soskalolka11]

So, I received answer from Choice bank about wires currency.
Good Afternoon Sir,
Yes the wire will be sent in Euros.
Does it mean that we can use Paxum to receive that transfer? Their support told me that it is possible to receive from third parties in euro.