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Does anyone in Canada have a cross border us account? I'm looking at that option so I don't have to wait two weeks for checks to clear but I'm unsure

Ack we have to wait two weeks for checks to get here then clear? eek i had no idea
 
Ack we have to wait two weeks for checks to get here then clear? eek i had no idea
It all depends on your bank and who the check is issued by. Every situation is unique.
 
It all depends on your bank and who the check is issued by. Every situation is unique.
Thank you im looking into banking options right now. Not sure why i just assumed id take my first check to the bank and it was be easy peasy...sorry this other first choice is affecting so many other models
 
Thank you im looking into banking options right now. Not sure why i just assumed id take my first check to the bank and it was be easy peasy...sorry this other first choice is affecting so many other models
My bank had no issues with the checks l receive. They held the first ones for 5 days and after that they clear them instantly.
 
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If its in euros we could received it on common paxum...(when you click to create euro wallet there, above it will present you link to iban transfer instructions)..
Well, we will see if we with larger sums will get it in a same way( if we get any after all)
 
I got in touch with FirstChoicePay support today to ask them what will happen to their website after 1 July, since their website registration expire in July, and I was told that the FCP website will close and we won't be able to login after that date. So if you did not make screenshots/videos inside your acount to proof to your bank or tax office, where the money are comong from(if there will be a wire transfer from Choice Bank) hurry up and do that asap.
 
I receive last week the form to complete with my bank account info, I sent it and they said it's ok, this week I asked Ad Kees when will I receive my money and he said "in a couple days"...

How many days are couple days?

They can retain our money 90 days by law, on july 10th more or less
 
My bank had no issues with the checks l receive. They held the first ones for 5 days and after that they clear them instantly.

Thank you! I'm going to call my bank monday to see what I need. We probably won't get our first check for a few more weeks so I have time to figure it out
 
So, I received answer from Choice bank about wires currency.
Good Afternoon Sir,
Yes the wire will be sent in Euros.

Does it mean that we can use Paxum to receive that transfer? Their support told me that it is possible to receive from third parties in euro.
JUST WOW!
Seems like yes!
But before this moment they said many times that it will be in USD only.
 
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DEPOSITORS ASKING COURT TO CLOSE DOWN CHOICE BANK
General— 16 June 2018— by Rowland A. Parks

BELIZE CITY, Thurs. June 14, 2018– On Thursday, June 7, the Central Bank of Belize issued a press release announcing that it had placed the international offshore bank, Choice Bank Limited, under enhanced supervision due to the bank’s liquidity problems.

On that same day, however, a fixed date claim was filed at the Supreme Court Registry by some of the bank’s depositors. The claimants in the lawsuit are seeking relief from the court to close down Choice Bank.

The court document stated, “The Claimants seek the following orders pursuant to Section 105 of the International Companies Act, Chapter 270 of the Substantive Laws of Belize, read along with Section 131(a) of the Companies Act, Chapter 250 of the Substantive Laws of Belize and the inherent jurisdiction of the Court: An Order that the Defendant, Choice Bank Limited, be wound up by the Court under the provisions of the International Business Companies Act; Costs and such further or other relief as the Court sees fit.”

Companies seeking to have the court close Choice Bank Limited include Orion Corporate & Trust, AC Webconnecting by t/a Shoshoro NV, ACWM and Live Pimpin, Oasis Global Belize Limited, and Oasis Global Nevis Limited.

The court document went on to say that the company carries on business as an international bank with authorized capital of $8,600,000, and that the claimants operated demand deposits accounts with the bank, which is named in the lawsuit as defendant.

Claimants in the lawsuit have itemized the amount of moneys that the bank owes to them, which is estimated to be about $4 million US dollars. The claimants have also attached a list specifying the dates when the company (Choice Bank) was served with demands by their attorneys to pay the moneys owed.

“Over 21 days have now elapsed since the Claimants served the said demands, but the Company has neglected to pay or satisfy the said sums or any part thereof, or to make any offer to the Claimants to secure or compound same,” the court document said.

“The Company is, pursuant to Section 131 (a) of the Companies Act, insolvent and unable to pay its debts; and in the circumstances it is just and equitable that the Company should be wound up,” states the document.

The case against Choice Bank will come up for mention before the Honorable Madam Justice Shona Griffith on Wednesday, June 27 at 10:00 a.m.

In mid-May, Prime Minister Dean Barrow, in his capacity as Minister of Finance, told the media, “…I signed a letter based on the recommendation of the Central Bank giving the Central Bank broader powers than would normally be the case to, as it were, ensure that the bank’s [Choice Bank] continued operations would be with a view to seeing all their depositors and customers satisfied as far as is possible.”

On Monday, we asked the officials at the Central Bank via email, “Information to our newspaper is that the bank has pretty much wound down its operations in Belize and will be located in another jurisdiction. How come the Central Bank is just addressing the shortcomings of the bank and its depositors? Isn’t the Central Bank’s action a little too late to ensure that depositors are afforded the necessary protection under laws of Belize?”

The officials at the Central Bank replied, saying, “Kindly note that the Central Bank of Belize is not ‘just addressing the shortcomings’ of Choice Bank Limited (CBL) operations in Belize. While the press release was issued on 7 June, 2018, this date is not indicative of the commencement of the actions by the Central Bank and does not disclose the extent to which the Central Bank has exercised its regulatory authority in this regard.”

The response from the Central Bank went on to explain that late in 2017 “…the Central Bank has been taking steps to address concerns with CBL’s operations, which were identified in the conduct of the Central Bank regulatory oversight function. Upon the CBL’s decision to suspend withdrawal of deposits on 9 April, 2018, the Central Bank immediately implemented an intense course of action.”

It further stated that, “In light of information discerned from the enhanced monitoring and investigation, the Central Bank recommended that the Prime Minister issue preventative measures under Section 27 of the International Banking Act with respect to CBL.”

“There has been public speculation on the state of CBL’s operations in Belize. The International Banking Act provides for an international bank to be wound up either compulsorily or voluntarily. At this time neither the Central Bank nor CBL has initiated the formal process of winding up CBL. Currently, the scopes of CBL’s international banking operations are restricted, which is distinct from initiating winding up procedures,” the Central Bank stated in its reply.

The Central Bank did not respond to our question about the bank operating from another jurisdiction. Amandala has learned, however, that Choice Bank Limited has a subsidiary in Puerto Rico under the name “Choice Financial International”.

Choice Bank Limited first began operating in Belize in 2008, and up to 2014 had listed the following persons as directors: Robert Cummings, businessman of Toronto, Ontario Canada; Tyrone Gill, Belizean banker; Stephen Czechowski, chartered accountant, North Calgary, Canada; Yuval Tal, businessman, New York, N.Y. USA; and Rodwell Williams, Belizean attorney.


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The situation for our funds becoming day by day worst. But I wish STRONGLY that, everyone in this forum, can stop for a moment on the penultimate line of the article, when Mr. Yuval Tal is mentioned as director of Choice Bank.

For those who still do not know (but I have been beating on this subject for months!) Mr. Yuval Tal is none other than the founder and CEO of Payoneer. So Yuval Tal, director (actual or in the past?) of Choice Bank and also Payoneer and First Choice Pay was aware of the whole situation and, in my humble opinion, was one of the puppeteers of all this fucking mess.

Now you know who you should ask for information, but I think that Yuval Tal is not the best person to deal with, and indeed (given his prominent past in the Israeli intelligence Services) it is better not to step on the feet to these men almost untouchable.
 
Here's the reply of Ad Kees about the posted article.
Did you look at the date?

We are under supervision ever since the beginning of April and we are working closely with the Central Bank to solve this.

Ad Kees
 
Here's the reply of Ad Kees about the posted article.
Did you look at the date?

We are under supervision ever since the beginning of April and we are working closely with the Central Bank to solve this.

Ad Kees
It seems it s from 7June... not 14th or 16th June...
 
I got in touch with FirstChoicePay support today to ask them what will happen to their website after 1 July, since their website registration expire in July, and I was told that the FCP website will close and we won't be able to login after that date. So if you did not make screenshots/videos inside your acount to proof to your bank or tax office, where the money are comong from(if there will be a wire transfer from Choice Bank) hurry up and do that asap.
And then they like.... who are you? fcp what? what site?
Funny thing they are not sending emails about it, that our site will not be available anymore
 
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They have renewed their domain.

Domain Name: FIRSTCHOICEPAY.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2042462134_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: http://www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2018-06-16T14:02:33Z
Creation Date: 2016-07-13T06:57:07Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-13T06:57:07Z
Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: NS1.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS2.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS3.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS4.P06.DYNECT.NET
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-06-16T17:11:24Z <<<
 
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They have renewed their domain.

Domain Name: FIRSTCHOICEPAY.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2042462134_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: http://www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2018-06-16T14:02:33Z
Creation Date: 2016-07-13T06:57:07Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-13T06:57:07Z
Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: NS1.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS2.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS3.P06.DYNECT.NET
Name Server: NS4.P06.DYNECT.NET
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-06-16T17:11:24Z <<<
you meant they going to exist more and we can check our account on fcp?
 
Yes. they just extended their expiration date with one year, but when I discussed with them, the domain was set to expire in July 2018. they updated it just after I discussed with them. It shows as updated in 16-06-2018
 
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you meant they going to exist more and we can check our account on fcp?

It means that the domain name "firstchoicepay.com" remains in their possession. It does not tell us whether the website remains hosted. They also need the domain name to send us e-mails. So it is important that this was extended.

But create screenshots, videos from your account anyway. Also download those PDFs.
 
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Just wait next week! Their lawsuit can last for years!

It’s not like we are all fucked because 2-3 clients wants the bank closed...

I think we will all know were we stand in just a few days...
 
Just wait next week! Their lawsuit can last for years!

It’s not like we are all fucked because 2-3 clients wants the bank closed...

I think we will all know were we stand in just a few days...

The article was just information but it's hard to tell whether it's good or not. You have to wonder why clients are trying to close the bank. Perhaps if the bank goes into bankruptcy, it goes into third party stewardship and all assets have to be used to pay off depositors. Right now because they are managing their own funds, they can also divert some of their assets to other things like paying investors, moving it into another business.
 
I donot understand why fcp website will close...its our only true evidance and they will close it no matter if we get paid or not..and it cost them nothing to be online for little while more...
One other thing crossed my mind just now...how can kees say the payment will be sent in euros after all of you have already gave him details for wire? In my bank(and i believe in others too) details for wire are different for euro and dollar transfers. So that means he is laying again?:(
 
I donot understand why fcp website will close...its our only true evidance and they will close it no matter if we get paid or not..and it cost them nothing to be online for little while more...
One other thing crossed my mind just now...how can kees say the payment will be sent in euros after all of you have already gave him details for wire? In my bank(and i believe in others too) details for wire are different for euro and dollar transfers. So that means he is laying again?:(

start screenshotting what you need then. If you are using chrome, I recommend the full page screen capture extension.
 
There is no reason that Choice Bank sends the amount in euros. Maybe they want to earn some extra percentage by using a dollar-euro conversion in their favour?

Mr Thompson told me that wire will be sent in USD (2 weeks ago). I don't know if is real or not because I can't trust them anymore.
 
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