Things models say that make you go "WTF?"

[AmberCutie]

Financial domination is a popular fetish, but those without the fetish would definitely have a hard time relating to its details.

Also, I'm not with you on the wtf about sending pics as thanks for helping a model with stuff. Are you suggesting that a member of a camsite would be disappointed with that?

 

[mynameisbob84]

I said something to the effect of "Wow..they really are good friends." and she agreed and reiterated to me that she was spoiled.
When I asked what she does to reciprocate the friendship, she said that she sends them pictures of....HERSELF.

What was she thinking? She should have sent them pictures of Jack Kevorkian instead. If I liked a model enough to spoil them and they sent me pictures of themself as way of thanks, I'd be PISSED :?

 

[LailaBaise]

When I asked what she does to reciprocate the friendship, she said that she sends them pictures of....HERSELF.

Tell me that's not a WTF moment! Tell me that's not narcissistic in the least!

Yep, total WTF moment for me, I'm heading straight over here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1605 with your latest comment of epic proportions.

Believe or not but most members are actually quite interested in pictures/content of the models they frequent...but I think you already know that, and are just quibbling the choice of words (it's becoming quite a trait of yours) that the model used.

It's NOT ok to say she sent pictures of herself, but it iz ok to say she sent them masturbation material. amirite? :thumbleft:

WTF

 

[Ataboy]

Financial domination is a popular fetish, but those without the fetish would definitely have a hard time relating to its details.

Also, I'm not with you on the wtf about sending pics as thanks for helping a model with stuff. Are you suggesting that a member of a camsite would be disappointed with that?

I am suggesting that once ya go outside the "normal" cam model/ member relationship (Ala: Tokens in exchange for a performance) that simply sending pictures is not something appropriate. She was admitting that members actually took time out of their day..aside from enjoying MFC...to actually do personal stuff for her. The attitude of her being spoiled and all she had to do was send pics, was really off-putting.

A few weeks ago, I helped a friend move. Took 4 hours. The next day, he gave me ride to the airport. Only took 1/2 hour. While good friends would never expect anything in return, we just know that he or she is there for the other whenever. But, doesn't the above scenario sound..in the least...one sided? In jest I suggested to a model on my "friends" list, that since we have gotten to know each other, and are on each others "friends" list, can I count on her to help me move my buddy. She suggested that she would for the right price. This is why I dislike the word "friend" on this site.

For the record: I have bought plenty of "material" from the models...for its functional value <I will let you figure out what I mean by that>. But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

 

[mynameisbob84]

But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

Ha! I lol'd. Helping somebody out at the expense of your own time being taken up with something that benefits someone other than you... that is indeed crossing the line :-D

 

[Ataboy]

When I asked what she does to reciprocate the friendship, she said that she sends them pictures of....HERSELF.

Tell me that's not a WTF moment! Tell me that's not narcissistic in the least!

Yep, total WTF moment for me, I'm heading straight over here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1605 with your latest comment of epic proportions.

Believe or not but most members are actually quite interested in pictures/content of the models they frequent...but I think you already know that, and are just quibbling the choice of words (it's becoming quite a trait of yours) that the model used.

It's NOT ok to say she sent pictures of herself, but it iz ok to say she sent them masturbation material. amirite? :thumbleft:

WTF

For the record. My thoughts on the word "epic" was just a footnote explaining that I don't like the current most popular use of the term. My actual WTF moment came earlier in the post. I will let you figure out what it was. I promise you should be much more upset with what I was really saying, that my thoughts on a single word. HELL...don't even get me started on this "FTW" bullshit!

As for your last message. Transparency and honesty...That's all I am asking for.

 

[Ataboy]

But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

Ha! I lol'd. Helping somebody out at the expense of your own time being taken up with something that benefits someone other than you... that is indeed crossing the line :-D

Strictly within the context of what I was suggesting...Yes it is.

 

[AmberCutie]

Some members would leap at a chance to help their favorite model with off-site stuff. They like to feel helpful and included in a models day to day life.

If one of my fave celebrities allowed me to help with their interior design, I'd jump at that and wouldn't expect anything in return. The experience and interaction would be fulfilling in itself.

You are not one of those members so I don't expect you to understand. You're making it clear that you go to mfc strictly for masturbation material and humor yourself by making fun of models' vocabulary.

 

[NoelleBright]

When I asked what she does to reciprocate the friendship, she said that she sends them pictures of....HERSELF.

I have some regulars who do things for me/help out and don't ask or expect ANYTHING AT ALL of me in return. As a matter of fact, I HAVE tried to compensate them in some way and they have ALL politely declined.
This may be hard for you to grasp but some people genuinely enjoy doing things for other people even without the promise of receiving something in return.

 

[mynameisbob84]

But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

Ha! I lol'd. Helping somebody out at the expense of your own time being taken up with something that benefits someone other than you... that is indeed crossing the line :-D

Strictly within the context of what I was suggesting...Yes it is.

It's not really "crossing the line" though is it. It may be something you personally wouldn't do, but that's all it is. I personally wouldn't suck a dick, but that doesn't mean that anyone who does is "crossing the line".

I used to be pretty friendly with a model (until she got tired of me and banned me but that's another story for another day!) and there were many times she went out of her way to do something kind for me that she didn't need to.
She'd send me packages full of American foodstuffs (I live in England so that shit is awesome), she went out and bought a US PlayStation Card so I could download some stuff from the American PSN Store (and then she didn't let me pay her back), she let me send a bunch of stuff I'd ordered from amazon.com to her house cos' they wouldn't deliver to England and then she took the time to send the stuff to me.
Similarly, I would do stuff for her that I'm guessing you wouldn't - I'd routinely buy her stuff from her wishlist, I sent her my old capo when she first started to play guitar so she wouldn't have to buy one, I once sent her a Plop Trumps card game cos' I thought it would make her laugh, at Christmas when she wanted to send a gift that could only be bought in England to another regular, she got it sent to my house and I posted it to her.
Throughout all those instances, no figurative line was crossed and nobody did anything that they shouldn't have done. There are worse things in the world than taking time out of your day to do something for someone else, ya know?

 

[Ataboy]

Some members would leap at a chance to help their favorite model with off-site stuff. They like to feel helpful and included in a models day to day life.

If one of my fave celebrities allowed me to help with their interior design, I'd jump at that and wouldn't expect anything in return. The experience and interaction would be fulfilling in itself.

You are not one of those members so I don't expect you to understand. You're making it clear that you go to mfc strictly for masturbation material and humor yourself by making fun of models' vocabulary.

Amber, please keep in mind: You're the celebrity in this scenario.

And yes, I do like to take a few jabs at the silly sometime ridiculous vocabulary that has become popular in this age of instant messaging and texting. Shorthand is one thing, but "bb, FTW, , RAWR, AMIRITE"...Dear Lord! I cringe every time I type LOL..would prefer to type haha..at least is an actual sound. I have not had good success with that...LOL...damnit! Oh well. To be fair...whenever I see in a models chat, I poke fun there too. And 99 out of 100 times the models and members get a little laugh out if it. Apparently this is not the case here...OOPS!!

 

[Ataboy]

But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

Ha! I lol'd. Helping somebody out at the expense of your own time being taken up with something that benefits someone other than you... that is indeed crossing the line :-D

Strictly within the context of what I was suggesting...Yes it is.

It's not really "crossing the line" though is it. It may be something you personally wouldn't do, but that's all it is. I personally wouldn't suck a dick, but that doesn't mean that anyone who does is "crossing the line".

I used to be pretty friendly with a model (until she got tired of me and banned me but that's another story for another day!) and there were many times she went out of her way to do something kind for me that she didn't need to.
She'd send me packages full of American foodstuffs (I live in England so that shit is awesome), she went out and bought a US PlayStation Card so I could download some stuff from the American PSN Store (and then she didn't let me pay her back), she let me send a bunch of stuff I'd ordered from amazon.com to her house cos' they wouldn't deliver to England and then she took the time to send the stuff to me.
Similarly, I would do stuff for her that I'm guessing you wouldn't - I'd routinely buy her stuff from her wishlist, I sent her my old capo when she first started to play guitar so she wouldn't have to buy one, I once sent her a Plop Trumps card game cos' I thought it would make her laugh, at Christmas when she wanted to send a gift that could only be bought in England to another regular, she got it sent to my house and I posted it to her.
Throughout all those instances, no figurative line was crossed and nobody did anything that they shouldn't have done. There are worse things in the world than taking time out of your day to do something for someone else, ya know?

Very Good...Very Fair. But please, I would like you to also be fair. This is not the same scenario as I described in the original post. This was mutual. My original post described a one sided relationship with a model who admitted to being "SPOILED". What you just described to me now..while not something I am interested in...doesn't make me go WTF!

 

[Jessi]

Some men do get a real kick -sexual or otherwise- out of spoiling women. I don't understand why (maybe they feel big about swinging their financial dick around, maybe they just like seeing someone happy, maybe its part of a submission fetish who knows. And not all girls who are spoiled don't appreciate it.

 

[sweetiebatman]

Sometimes people are just NICE and expect no recompense other than to be appreciated.

I don't think anyone is saying this is or should be expected to be the case with every model-prem relationship but you seem pretty intent in painting this situation with the broadest brush-strokes possible.

Live and let live eh? If people are getting what they want, who are we to complain :twocents-02cents:

 

[sweetiebatman]

And maybe if you used a bit of shorthand in your life you'd have time to grow a lovely bonzai tree for one of your favorite model


Bonzai trees FTW IMO... LOL :handgestures-salute:


I'm only joking, please don't hurt me! ray:

 

[Bocefish]

Crossing the line? How dare you take time from your busy day to do something that could possibly considered friendly. :laughing-rolling:

 

[AmyLemon]

A few weeks ago, I helped a friend move. Took 4 hours. The next day, he gave me ride to the airport. Only took 1/2 hour. While good friends would never expect anything in return, we just know that he or she is there for the other whenever. But, doesn't the above scenario sound..in the least...one sided?

Totally one sided! given the amount of physical labour and emotional support you provided during the move the dude totally owed you a hand-job as per the accepted rules of polite society. I don't do anything for anyone if it isn't clearly understood by both parties that hand jobs are the implied currency.

 

[sweetiebatman]

Handjobs/Bitcoins, as long as its in the fine print :lol:

 

[Ataboy]

Crossing the line? How dare you take time from your busy day to do something that could possibly considered friendly. :laughing-rolling:

I wish you people would read what I actually write. I never said anything about only doing good deeds and favors in exchange for reciprocation. In a previous response I specifically said that friends don't need to do that, because true friends know the other will be there for them whenever. However, yes, there are times where friendships become one sided and it should at least make ya think about that relationship. All, I did was describe one such situation. And it made me go WTF!!

Your message and a couple I see previous to it, puts words in my text that simply aren't there.
I would hate to do the same to you and accuse you of implying that I should give the models charity. Is that what you're saying? Are the models charity cases? I personally do not believe so, but I fear you feel different.

**I will await all the messages that show that what I said was taken out of context**

 

[Shaun__]

Some members would leap at a chance to help their favorite model with off-site stuff. They like to feel helpful and included in a models day to day life.

If one of my fave celebrities allowed me to help with their interior design, I'd jump at that and wouldn't expect anything in return. The experience and interaction would be fulfilling in itself.

You are not one of those members so I don't expect you to understand. You're making it clear that you go to mfc strictly for masturbation material and humor yourself by making fun of models' vocabulary.

Amber, please keep in mind: You're the celebrity in this scenario.

And yes, I do like to take a few jabs at the silly sometime ridiculous vocabulary that has become popular in this age of instant messaging and texting. Shorthand is one thing, but "bb, FTW, , RAWR, AMIRITE"...Dear Lord! I cringe every time I type LOL..would prefer to type haha..at least is an actual sound. I have not had good success with that...LOL...damnit! Oh well. To be fair...whenever I see in a models chat, I poke fun there too. And 99 out of 100 times the models and members get a little laugh out if it. Apparently this is not the case here...OOPS!!

This is how I feel about you, "éow standan swician mec". I did not use any fancy slang just so I could be sure you understood me, just plain Old English.

 

[Ataboy]

A few weeks ago, I helped a friend move. Took 4 hours. The next day, he gave me ride to the airport. Only took 1/2 hour. While good friends would never expect anything in return, we just know that he or she is there for the other whenever. But, doesn't the above scenario sound..in the least...one sided?

Totally one sided! given the amount of physical labour and emotional support you provided during the move the dude totally owed you a hand-job as per the accepted rules of polite society. I don't do anything for anyone if it isn't clearly understood by both parties that hand jobs are the implied currency.

Once again: Not entirely on point with what I was trying to say or describe. But hey, if you truly believe handys are a prerequisite for help in a relocation, I will help ya move a 3 bedroom condo down 3 floors into a new building and 6 floors up. All day..everyday!!

 

[alexa7]

Financial domination is a popular fetish, but those without the fetish would definitely have a hard time relating to its details.

Also, I'm not with you on the wtf about sending pics as thanks for helping a model with stuff. Are you suggesting that a member of a camsite would be disappointed with that?

I am suggesting that once ya go outside the "normal" cam model/ member relationship (Ala: Tokens in exchange for a performance) that simply sending pictures is not something appropriate. She was admitting that members actually took time out of their day..aside from enjoying MFC...to actually do personal stuff for her. The attitude of her being spoiled and all she had to do was send pics, was really off-putting.

A few weeks ago, I helped a friend move. Took 4 hours. The next day, he gave me ride to the airport. Only took 1/2 hour. While good friends would never expect anything in return, we just know that he or she is there for the other whenever. But, doesn't the above scenario sound..in the least...one sided? In jest I suggested to a model on my "friends" list, that since we have gotten to know each other, and are on each others "friends" list, can I count on her to help me move my buddy. She suggested that she would for the right price. This is why I dislike the word "friend" on this site.

For the record: I have bought plenty of "material" from the models...for its functional value <I will let you figure out what I mean by that>. But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

bet you wish you had a vagina and a set of tits huh? :roll:

 

[Bocefish]

Crossing the line? How dare you take time from your busy day to do something that could possibly be considered friendly. :laughing-rolling:

I wish you people would read what I actually write. I never said anything about only doing good deeds and favors in exchange for reciprocation.

For the record: I have bought plenty of "material" from the models...for its functional value <I will let you figure out what I mean by that>. But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

I did read exactly what you wrote which is totally in line with what my reply was. Your idea of crossing the line sounds like it's almost a sin to do something nice for a model just because. It's not charity, but if that's your opinion, sobeit.

 

[AmberCutie]

Crossing the line? How dare you take time from your busy day to do something that could possibly be considered friendly. :laughing-rolling:

I wish you people would read what I actually write. I never said anything about only doing good deeds and favors in exchange for reciprocation.

For the record: I have bought plenty of "material" from the models...for its functional value <I will let you figure out what I mean by that>. But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

I did read exactly what you wrote which is totally in line with what my reply was. Your idea of crossing the line sounds like it's almost a sin to do something nice for a model just because. It's not charity, but if that's your opinion, sobeit.

Exactly. No one mistook his words at all. As I said, he's making it clear that to him a cam model is meant only for personal sexual gratification, or to poke fun at and humor himself. He keeps missing the point we are making that OTHER PEOPLE LIKE TO SPOIL MODELS and do things for them outside of his scope of "enjoyment on a camsite". It brings them happiness and joy in a way that he just can't understand or relate to, therefore it makes him say WTF.

Yes, it's one-sided. Yes, most times the members go into the experience knowing this. Yes, they still enjoy the hell out of it. And yes, in many cases, a set of sexy pictures is a great way to thank a member who makes us feel special, even if they didn't ask for it (which they probably don't in many of these situations.)

I think his misunderstanding of this scenario paired with his lack of knowledge of financial domination should have tipped us all off that he won't understand all of this info we keep throwing at him.

 

[AmberCutie]

And if there must be a comparison made, it can't be "charity."

You give to a charity because the people NEED it, and maybe because you feel sorry for them or their situation.

How about volunteering. You volunteer because you enjoy a cause. It brings you joy to give an hour a week to the local animal shelter. To spend time with other people who love animals, and to interact with the puppies or whatnot. You don't expect the puppies to give you a handjob because you gave up an hour of your precious time to throw a ball around with them. At least I hope not.

 

[Ataboy]

Crossing the line? How dare you take time from your busy day to do something that could possibly be considered friendly. :laughing-rolling:

I wish you people would read what I actually write. I never said anything about only doing good deeds and favors in exchange for reciprocation.

For the record: I have bought plenty of "material" from the models...for its functional value <I will let you figure out what I mean by that>. But would never..help a model with personal stuff that takes from my day. For me, that's crossing the line.

I did read exactly what you wrote which is totally in line with what my reply was. Your idea of crossing the line sounds like it's almost a sin to do something nice for a model just because. It's not charity, but if that's your opinion, sobeit.[/quote

My original post suggested that this was under the pretense of friendship. Your suggestion that I do not believe in doing friendly things for people without the possibility of getting something in exchange has not once been suggested by me. Again..words in my text that aren't there. And thank you for failing to see the context in my comment about charity. I even suggested that someone might miss it.

 

[sweetiebatman]

I think the problem here, is that the way you come across with the style of writing you use, makes it sound, to quote President Bartlet from the West Wing, Like you have a big stick up your butt"

 

[Ataboy]

Your message and a couple I see previous to it, puts words in my text that simply aren't there.
I would hate to do the same to you and accuse you of implying that I should give the models charity. Is that what you're saying? Are the models charity cases? I personally do not believe so, but I fear you feel different.

**I will await all the messages that show that what I said was taken out of context**

And if there must be a comparison made, it can't be "charity."

You give to a charity because the people NEED it, and maybe because you feel sorry for them or their situation.

How about volunteering. You volunteer because you enjoy a cause. It brings you joy to give an hour a week to the local animal shelter. To spend time with other people who love animals, and to interact with the puppies or whatnot. You don't expect the puppies to give you a handjob because you gave up an hour of your precious time to throw a ball around with them. At least I hope not.

Amber...believe it or not...I respect you (perhaps the only one who has been responding) too much, so I can truly say, I am disappointed in this response. I wish, that you would have noticed the context in which I made the "charity" comparison. That was strictly a swipe at Boce when I was saying he put words in my message. I did the same thing back to him. I even alluded in the footnote that you all should be careful and see that that statement could be taken out of context.

Also, I understand that some members feel good when they spoil the models. And yes, this good feeling is in itself a reward. I am not even saying that I don't tip just cause I feel it the right thing to do.

My original post was about a specific model who actually admitted...to me...that she was "spoiled" and admitted that she had to do very little to earn this generousity. Almost like she was proud. The blantant flaunting of this attitude is what made me go WTF!! Was this not perfectly clear?

And yes..to be fair...I cannot even begin to wrap my head around the idea of "financial domination". Totally baffles me!!

 

[mynameisbob84]

And if there must be a comparison made, it can't be "charity."

You give to a charity because the people NEED it, and maybe because you feel sorry for them or their situation.

How about volunteering. You volunteer because you enjoy a cause. It brings you joy to give an hour a week to the local animal shelter. To spend time with other people who love animals, and to interact with the puppies or whatnot. You don't expect the puppies to give you a handjob because you gave up an hour of your precious time to throw a ball around with them. At least I hope not.

I'm just glad it wasn't me who made the analogy in which camgirls are dogs :-D

 

[MadisonLeigh]

Ataboy, it sounds like you're on MFC solely for the tokens for performance exchange. That is perfectly fine, and a valid way to use the site. But not every premium member is the same as you, and some have different motivations. The model you're speaking of isn't forcing anyone to spoil her. She's not holding a gun to their heads. They are consenting adults, and if they enjoy helping her out and buying her gifts, and they are satisfied with receiving pictures in return, what exactly is WTF about that? Now, if she was complaining about not receiving gifts and outside help, then I could agree with your WTF. But this sounds like a mutually beneficial situation, and therefore none of your business.