Setting Minimum Tip + On/Off User Images

[uhohtrouble]

I think Agent_99 set her minimum to 100 tokens.

:lol:

 

[LadyLuna]

Since someone asked about the minimum tip, I thought I'd bump the thread where we discussed the pro's and con's of the minimum tip feature.

 

[ComicOzzie]

As I replied in the other thread, I will tip what I want to tip, not what the model thinks I should tip. I really think some models do this because they still believe that small tips hurt their camscore.

 

[mynameisbob84]

If my 10 token tip isn't good enough for ya, then neither is my 10 brazillion token tip...

 

[Jessi J]

I like your tip, Bob. :lol:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I like your tip, Bob. :lol:

I like your bum, Starz.

 

[Neudiin]

I like your tip, Bob. :lol:

I like your bum, Starz.

Get a room you 2 lol

 

[Mitchie Lynn]

I like your tip, Bob. :lol:

I like your bum, Starz.

Get a room you 2 lol

Yeah! Get a room!

....

Can I watch?

 

[Jessi J]

Sure, if you like men that look like homeless Jesus. :lol:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I can't see the Anti-Thanks button through these tears :crybaby:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

minimum tip

Models: Do you have a minimum set for your tips? Why/why not? If you do, what is it?
Members: Do you care if a girl sets a minimum?

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I have mine set at 10tkns. I only make 50cents off of that and it's a $1 for them. I don't think it's too much to ask for. At a strip club you don't throw change....I hope. lol
But I didn't want to set it too high because some guys like to do a low amount MANY times for a yellow wall, or just to say "thank you" without wanting anything in return.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Re: minimum tip

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There's a bunch of discussion about this already here, I'm not sure if Amber wants it all to continue there or not.

But, I don't set a tip minimum and it honestly made me upset when I tried to tip a girl my last 8 tokens just to find out her tip minimum was set at 20 tokens. I was kinda like, oh? My last 8 tokens aren't good enough for you?

Plus, I have a group of regulars who make token walls rangin from 1-10 tokens, so I would never have yellow tip walls if I set a tip minimum.

I can see doing a minimum for a tip-controlled show like sybian, hitachi, sound-based vibes. Guys would go crazy with 1 tokens tips.

 

[Shaun__]

Re: minimum tip

I have mine set at 10tkns. I only make 50cents off of that and it's a $1 for them. I don't think it's too much to ask for. At a strip club you don't throw change....I hope. lol
But I didn't want to set it too high because some guys like to do a low amount MANY times for a yellow wall, or just to say "thank you" without wanting anything in return.

I made a long wall of 5 token tips for a lovely model the other day. You may be losing that kind of thing with a token limit. I say any model too good for a 1 token tip is too good for me as well.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I have mine set at 10tkns. I only make 50cents off of that and it's a $1 for them. I don't think it's too much to ask for. At a strip club you don't throw change....I hope. lol
But I didn't want to set it too high because some guys like to do a low amount MANY times for a yellow wall, or just to say "thank you" without wanting anything in return.

I made a long wall of 5 token tips for a lovely model the other day. You may be losing that kind of thing with a token limit. I say any model too good for a 1 token tip is too good for me as well.

So any model that thinks they are worth more than 5cents, is too good for you? lol

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Re: minimum tip

I have mine set at 10tkns. I only make 50cents off of that and it's a $1 for them. I don't think it's too much to ask for. At a strip club you don't throw change....I hope. lol
But I didn't want to set it too high because some guys like to do a low amount MANY times for a yellow wall, or just to say "thank you" without wanting anything in return.

I made a long wall of 5 token tips for a lovely model the other day. You may be losing that kind of thing with a token limit. I say any model too good for a 1 token tip is too good for me as well.

So any model that thinks they are worth more than 5cents, is too good for you? lol

How is getting a 1 token tip saying you are worth 5 cents? I hardly doubt any person who tips 1 token is expecting much. We can't even read tip notes if it's under 5 tokens, so it's not like the tip can even come tied to a request.

Sure, it might be annoying sometimes to see a wall of yellow and have it only account to 10 tokens, but so many times has that 1 token wall enticed someone else to tip WAY more.. Someone will randomly throw in 10, 100, 300, 1000 in these walls to show everyone else up. I think mostly what shaun is trying to say though is that why would you deny 5 cents just because it's only 5 cents?

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I have mine set at 10tkns. I only make 50cents off of that and it's a $1 for them. I don't think it's too much to ask for. At a strip club you don't throw change....I hope. lol
But I didn't want to set it too high because some guys like to do a low amount MANY times for a yellow wall, or just to say "thank you" without wanting anything in return.

I made a long wall of 5 token tips for a lovely model the other day. You may be losing that kind of thing with a token limit. I say any model too good for a 1 token tip is too good for me as well.

So any model that thinks they are worth more than 5cents, is too good for you? lol

How is getting a 1 token tip saying you are worth 5 cents? I hardly doubt any person who tips 1 token is expecting much. We can't even read tip notes if it's under 5 tokens, so it's not like the tip can even come tied to a request.

Sure, it might be annoying sometimes to see a wall of yellow and have it only account to 10 tokens, but so many times has that 1 token wall enticed someone else to tip WAY more.. Someone will randomly throw in 10, 100, 300, 1000 in these walls to show everyone else up. I think mostly what shaun is trying to say though is that why would you deny 5 cents just because it's only 5 cents?

I think when you set a minimum, you attract customers willing to pay that. If a customer comes in and is not willing to give you a dollar for your time, do you really want him in your room to begin with? And for the guys who tip 5tkns and a huge yellow wall. You can just do half the wall for 10tkns. Same thing. I feel like there is negativity towards models who set minimums. Like people are thinking, "She thinks she is so much better than my 5cents, then fuck her!" How is that a bad thing??? You are only worth as much as YOU think you are.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: minimum tip

I think when you set a minimum, you attract customers willing to pay that. If a customer comes in and is not willing to give you a dollar for your time, do you really want him in your room to begin with? And for the guys who tip 5tkns and a huge yellow wall. You can just do half the wall for 10tkns. Same thing. I feel like there is negativity towards models who set minimums. Like people are thinking, "She thinks she is so much better than my 5cents, then fuck her!" How is that a bad thing??? You are only worth as much as YOU think you are.

While many can appreciate your confidence and strong sense of self worth (which is great, having a positive view of yourself is very healthy!) I think a lot of people do find it off-putting if a girl is willing to turn down a gift of money just because it's not enough. There's only been a few times where someone was abusing the ability to tip single tokens, and I've dealt with them all case by case, but I know in the long run, having a minimum set will effect my reputation. My biggest tip EVER began with a 1 token tip just last month. Imagine if he went to do his plan of tipping 1, then 10, then 100... and so on until the big bomb, and he got a rejection saying I wouldn't accept his 1 token? He may have gotten a sour taste in his mouth and decided not to tip at all, let alone rock my face with epicness.

Limiting them is really only limiting yourself.

I believe there's a lot of psychology behind why certain people tip certain ways, and I think making a great first impression has a lot to do with how likely people are to return and tip again. It's understandable not to thank a 1 or 2 token tip with the same enthusiasm as something higher, but turning off the ability to accept them might end up hurting you in the long run. Unless you don't care what people think when they get the rejection message, or about the potential bigger tips that could follow after a few token tip. Obviously you choose what you're most comfortable with, but since you seem surprised at all the negative comments associated with setting a minimum tip amount, I just wanted to explain my thoughts on it a little better.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Re: minimum tip

I think when you set a minimum, you attract customers willing to pay that. If a customer comes in and is not willing to give you a dollar for your time, do you really want him in your room to begin with? And for the guys who tip 5tkns and a huge yellow wall. You can just do half the wall for 10tkns. Same thing. I feel like there is negativity towards models who set minimums. Like people are thinking, "She thinks she is so much better than my 5cents, then fuck her!" How is that a bad thing??? You are only worth as much as YOU think you are.

One of my regulars, he doesn't have a lot of tokens, but he does like to see me smile. So he tips 20-30 tokens in 1 token walls, in which many people join in. If he tips me 20 or 30 tokens he sees me smile once, but if he tips a whole yellow wall of one token tips that other people join in on and start giving me 2 and 3 and 5 token tips.. well this guy has not only gotten what he wants (to see me smile, and not just for a second, he got a LONG happy, giggling smile) and I get more than the 20 or 30 tokens that he had to give.

It's not about worth. I think I am worth a a lot more than five cents - I just know that sometimes dudes only have a dollar or two to give each of their favorite models and I'm not going to deny any way they choose to give it to me.

 

[schlmoe]

Re: minimum tip

I think when you set a minimum, you attract customers willing to pay that. If a customer comes in and is not willing to give you a dollar for your time, do you really want him in your room to begin with? And for the guys who tip 5tkns and a huge yellow wall. You can just do half the wall for 10tkns. Same thing. I feel like there is negativity towards models who set minimums. Like people are thinking, "She thinks she is so much better than my 5cents, then fuck her!" How is that a bad thing??? You are only worth as much as YOU think you are.

That's fine, and admirable if you value yourself that highly. I place a high value on myself, and I bet most of the forum members do as well. To me, this has nothing to do with that. There's an old saying: "if I could buy you for what you're worth, and sell you for what you think you're worth, I'd have made a fortune".

If you accept smaller tips, who says you owe anything BUT a "thank you". If you want to put a limit, put limits on what requests cost. Or not, certainly it's your room, your choice (and your camscore).

There are lots of reasons to accept any tip, most have been stated here better than I could. To me, it's not about how you value yourself, but about growing your business, growing your brand.

I know for a fact from reading member posts in here that some members buy one token package per month. When they run low, they will start to dole out smaller tips to stretch until the next purchase. If a model refused to accept these, even if she was the hottest thing on the planet, she'd never seen that member when he loaded up next month. There are also members that are in temporarily reduced circumstances, and they can only purchase the $20 pack. Again, if their 5 token tip was rejected, that model will most likely never see that member again.

Of course, there may just be a few genuine cheap-asses out there, but I wouldn't know anything about that... :whistle:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I think when you set a minimum, you attract customers willing to pay that. If a customer comes in and is not willing to give you a dollar for your time, do you really want him in your room to begin with? And for the guys who tip 5tkns and a huge yellow wall. You can just do half the wall for 10tkns. Same thing. I feel like there is negativity towards models who set minimums. Like people are thinking, "She thinks she is so much better than my 5cents, then fuck her!" How is that a bad thing??? You are only worth as much as YOU think you are.

While many can appreciate your confidence and strong sense of self worth (which is great, having a positive view of yourself is very healthy!) I think a lot of people do find it off-putting if a girl is willing to turn down a gift of money just because it's not enough. There's only been a few times where someone was abusing the ability to tip single tokens, and I've dealt with them all case by case, but I know in the long run, having a minimum set will effect my reputation. My biggest tip EVER began with a 1 token tip just last month. Imagine if he went to do his plan of tipping 1, then 10, then 100... and so on until the big bomb, and he got a rejection saying I wouldn't accept his 1 token? He may have gotten a sour taste in his mouth and decided not to tip at all, let alone rock my face with epicness.

Limiting them is really only limiting yourself.

I believe there's a lot of psychology behind why certain people tip certain ways, and I think making a great first impression has a lot to do with how likely people are to return and tip again. It's understandable not to thank a 1 or 2 token tip with the same enthusiasm as something higher, but turning off the ability to accept them might end up hurting you in the long run. Unless you don't care what people think when they get the rejection message, or about the potential bigger tips that could follow after a few token tip. Obviously you choose what you're most comfortable with, but since you seem surprised at all the negative comments associated with setting a minimum tip amount, I just wanted to explain my thoughts on it a little better.

I think if that customer really had a plan to tip you that huge. He would not care to have started off with 10tkns. I don't think it's a bad thing to not have a minimum. I also do not think it's a bad thing to have a minimum. Guys are going to get a "sour taste" about you from all different things. Not just tips. You can't worry about what everyone thinks. You just have to do what you want, and there will be people who love you for exactly that.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: minimum tip

I think if that customer really had a plan to tip you that huge. He would not care to have started off with 10tkns. I don't think it's a bad thing to not have a minimum. I also do not think it's a bad thing to have a minimum. Guys are going to get a "sour taste" about you from all different things. Not just tips. You can't worry about what everyone thinks. You just have to do what you want, and there will be people who love you for exactly that.

I most certainly would never call him a customer. But this whole conversation, that included, just goes to show that models have different mindsets about how to best present themselves, and that different things work for different people.

Thanks again, Megan, for participating in a discussion where your opinion isn't necessarily the most popular, but still posting respectfully and maturely.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: minimum tip

I think if that customer really had a plan to tip you that huge. He would not care to have started off with 10tkns.

I also have to point out, that once when I spoke with him about his awesome tips, one of the things he told me was, and this is a direct quote:

"I really enjoy how you run your room"

Never know if that had a part to play in that whole bigger picture.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I think if that customer really had a plan to tip you that huge. He would not care to have started off with 10tkns. I don't think it's a bad thing to not have a minimum. I also do not think it's a bad thing to have a minimum. Guys are going to get a "sour taste" about you from all different things. Not just tips. You can't worry about what everyone thinks. You just have to do what you want, and there will be people who love you for exactly that.

I most certainly would never call him a customer. But this whole conversation, that included, just goes to show that models have different mindsets about how to best present themselves, and that different things work for different people.

Thanks again, Megan, for participating in a discussion where your opinion isn't necessarily the most popular, but still posting respectfully and maturely.

I certainly did not say "customer" in a demeaning manner. I am curious to what you call the people in your room who pay for your services?
Yes, that's exactly my point. Models do different things. There are top 20 models and many of them do totally different things. But it obviously works for them even though they are different. I just don't think negativity should be placed on it. That is all.
Of course hon. We are adults here and there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate!

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: minimum tip

I certainly did not say "customer" in a demeaning manner. I am curious to what you call the people in your room who pay for your services?

I call them members, and sometimes friends. While I realize that people are paying for a service, part of that service is feeling appreciated and having a certain type of interaction with the lady on screen that they are paying. Many members come to a camsite for the bonus material, not just the porn.

When I hear "customer" I think "merchandise". I believe the members who we want to have around and return to tip us or keep us company see us as more than just merchandise they are purchasing.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Re: minimum tip

I certainly did not say "customer" in a demeaning manner. I am curious to what you call the people in your room who pay for your services?

I call them members, and sometimes friends. While I realize that people are paying for a service, part of that service is feeling appreciated and having a certain type of interaction with the lady on screen that they are paying. Many members come to a camsite for the bonus material, not just the porn.

When I hear "customer" I think "merchandise". I believe the members who we want to have around and return to tip us or keep us company see us as more than just merchandise they are purchasing.

While that's true, it doesn't negate the fact that they are still paying customers. I want you to know that when I said "customer" it was not a derogatory term. You may become good friends with your waitress and go there often for her company instead of the food, but you are still her customer, regardless.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: minimum tip

While that's true, it doesn't negate the fact that they are still paying customers. I want you to know that when I said "customer" it was not a derogatory term. You may become good friends with your waitress and go there often for her company instead of the food, but you are still her customer, regardless.

Ah yes, but if you're the waitress, and you treat this person in a way that they forget that they are "just your customer" you may end up with a better tip!

Anywho, I'm not the one to take offense to the word. You said yourself you wanted to attract the right type of tipper in your room, and in my opinion, people who would rather not be called a customer and want to be treated with that certain level of interaction are the most enjoyable to have. I believe the ones who think of themselves as just customers are the ones that expect something tangible or extravagant for their tokens, more often than not.

 

[Marokite]

I get token packages when I am able to afford it. Unfortunately, this mostly leaves me with the ability to tip in small amounts, or I will completely lose the ability to tip at all. Now when I visit a room, I am not in there to view the "merchandise", as I consider the lady on screen to be a person, and not an object. I am there to chat a little bit, and hear her interactions with people. If I get the bug to drop a tip, I don't do it with the intention of making a request or buying her "affection". I do it because I simply felt like doing it. If I received a rejection because I tipped too low, I would do one of two things: 1) Leave the room and not bother, or 2) Stick around and not tip. I think that choice would be case by case depending on the lady. Either way, the set minimum would have cost the lady my tip (and any future tips) just because it wasn't "enough".

 

[Sia Green]

Re: minimum tip

I don't really understand setting a tip minimum either. I let my guys tip me how they see fit and whatever works with their budget at the time. I totally agree with Lacie. Of course I think Im worth more than .05 lol, but all those .05 add up and can even inspire other guys to start tipping during a dry spell. Plus, I would never deny myself an opportunity hear that awesome tip bell sound!

I think if that customer really had a plan to tip you that huge. He would not care to have started off with 10tkns.

I also have to point out, that once when I spoke with him about his awesome tips, one of the things he told me was, and this is a direct quote:

"I really enjoy how you run your room"

Never know if that had a part to play in that whole bigger picture.

I agree. You run your room like a boss. Im also enjoying this whole discussion. Megan and Amber are both making great points! :happy1:

 

[JickyJuly]

The sound of one dude tipping a small amount often reminds others to tip. So, I get a nickel AND the luxury of rambling along without asking for tips. It's good for my paycheck and my room vibe. I don't think anyone who tips any amount thinks it's what a girl is worth. The same way many members probably aren't paid what they're worth at their dayjobs. Every tip is a contribution toward the feeling in the room. Also, customers