Great advice. I really dislike that 30 seconds as well. The rates you suggest are good too. It also always depends as how busy or not you are, how willing you are in private, etc. I go with 5.99 for premium and 7.99 in excl. Most my pvts are excl. Higher the rate, the longer you might be in free chat though, so it depends a little bit on what you prefer as well. Different rates also, sometimes, brings different type of people to you. But never undervalue yourself either
Needs a little of playing around in general to find what its the most suitable for you
Hi,
Actually a big portion of the users who enter the 30s are big spenders on the platform.
I meant the users that just enter and intentionnaly leave after 30sec. Obviously those who stay after are spenders^^.Actually a big portion of the users who enter the 30s are big spenders on the platform.
The 30s are used to make sure that from the technical point of view and billing side, the user can sustain that paid session.
That used to happen to me all the time too, but since I raised my rates to 6.99/6.99 it isn't as much anymore. Same with the 30 sec premium peepers, they are too scared to go over 30 secs and be charged a whole 6.99 (lol). I also block anyone that wastes my time like that, because they take me away from buyers in free chat, who are regs and stuff, and who were in the middle of organizing a longer show w me. It's annoying.
It's a shame that so many abuse it. I wish there was a way they could get a system warning with support on members who never spend and abuse such features repeatedly. That way they could close their accounts. Then the high payers who don't abuse, the 30-sec feature, and waste everyone's time, would be fine. Because they put serious long show buyers off (by all these constant inappropriate interruptions), and lose us all money and fun.
When I'm in premium and they come in peeping, I watch the timer, and purposefully start getting more explicit and exciting at around 25 secs. Since I started doing that a lot of them forget and stay longer, and get charged for a minute. It's greatYes. I don't think they should have that 30-second thing as a feature AT ALL though. I just think it's shitty (As if giving the models only 35% of their earnings isn't bad enough). Anytime you make it known to members that they'll get something FREE, you can expect that a lot of them will try to abuse it. I wish every single one of them would just lose track of the time and wind up accidentally staying past 30 seconds and getting charged.
They can't help themselves. The 30 secs is easy to control in exclusive, but in premium, I feel bad for the original show buyer who is there paying for these shenanigans. However, I do have a lot of cuckold and voyeur fans, and it gets them off to know other guys are watching too. So I do tolerate the peepers to a certain extent, if I know it's getting the original guy off more.
is there anything y'all can do about the repeatable offenders? i sometimes get the same people popping in and out of my private and leaving before i can ban them. i dont like keeping the remember users who leave your chat option since i have a busy room and it clutters up my member list. and i cannot ban through their profile, only note. like maybe a timeout where they cant keep joining private after the third time? having to interrupt my private shows to ban these repeatable offenders is pretty disruptive to paying members. sometimes they will leave if i need to stop what im doing. internet broadband and technology have improved greatly. the 30 seconds made sense when the fastest internet speeds were 250 kbps. average internet speeds are 12-25mbps.Actually a big portion of the users who enter the 30s are big spenders on the platform.
The 30s are used to make sure that from the technical point of view and billing side, the user can sustain that paid session.
For repeat offenders or guys who jump in - I quick click their name to get the note to pop up and don't close it, if they leave quick I put it in their note. Then if they come back and do it again, I type it in again or just block at the 2nd time they do it. I have had guys pop in and later get a real show because they liked what they saw in the few seconds they were there. I also write down usernames but the guys who make a habit of it will change usernames. If you keep the notes window open, you can get their user ID from the address at the top - next to the padlock if you scroll over and then block them using that hack that's been shared here before. I can screen shot and show if anyone needs to see what I mean.
Catalina, it would be greatly beneficial if a user name would show up as clickable if they spend at least 1 second in paid. Why do the names disappear? It makes our jobs harder and the abusers get away with it over and over.If you get users who abuse the 30s rule, please report them. CS will take the right measures for this.
But as mentioned above, a big portion of the users who go in and out within the first 30s, are big spenders on our site. Most of them take the time to analyze the models before they actually start spending. So I would not necessary go into blocking them all, unless they do something that should not do or start abusing this rule.
When I'm performing I'm not near my keyboard or mouse. I would have to move away from my cam to note. So it's not the most convenient thing. It would be best if streamate would give us the option to have a section in members list who were previously in private. We do have the option to save members who left in your chat, but if you have a busy room it's hard to keep track.
I rarely have more than 1 or 2 guys in pvt so I can't relate
Here is another reason it really should change - I had a private last night and as the original user left, a new one joined . About 20 seconds in, another joined and the second person left, and about 25 seconds later 2 more users joined and the 3rd person left. And then it happened again! It was at least a minute of time I did NOT get paid for. And I know for a fact 2 of the guys who came in have done this 2x or more each! I could not ban them in time.
So what i'm gathering here is they're the "big spenders" because they pop in and out of 500 models rooms a night and 50/500 times they accidentally stay too long and get charged lol. So Streamate wins, but the 450/500 models who got played by this "big spender" lose out. Now I understand why even though every single model on there hates this feature it's not going anywhere.If you get users who abuse the 30s rule, please report them. CS will take the right measures for this.
But as mentioned above, a big portion of the users who go in and out within the first 30s, are big spenders on our site. Most of them take the time to analyze the models before they actually start spending. So I would not necessary go into blocking them all, unless they do something that should not do or start abusing this rule.
I'm not sure about CB, but I was a model full time on MFC for a couple years (and I still go with this vibe to this day in adult film/Onlyfans)...I always charged the maximum amount available. The way I see it, if people want a private with you, they'll do it. There's only one of you! Even if it's "expensive," if they REALLY want it, they can save up and treat themselves. In my experience, lowering my rates not only felt icky to me but also attracted cheapskates!! AND the cheapskates tended to be pretty disrespectful. Again, this is just my own personal experience, but more money is always better than less money and it's COMPLETELY up to you as to what feels right and good for you to be charging. I don't even look at what other models charge because everyone is different
in my book, any second we are exposing intimacy and "working" should be paid. There shouldn't be a 30 seconds rules to put to safety due to potential technical issues. Tech department should just work harder to make sure these things done occur. If it happens on the members connection, well its not the platform or models fault.If you get users who abuse the 30s rule, please report them. CS will take the right measures for this.
But as mentioned above, a big portion of the users who go in and out within the first 30s, are big spenders on our site. Most of them take the time to analyze the models before they actually start spending. So I would not necessary go into blocking them all, unless they do something that should not do or start abusing this rule.
At the beginning of all shows (except GOLD Shows), there is a 30 second leeway period before payment begins. If the member leaves before this 30 second period is up, they will not be charged. Once your show hits the 30 second mark, billing starts. This helps catch early technical difficulties and prevent billing issues.
