New Found Corruption on MFC

[lusciouz]

Ok so..it urked me to have to explain this but I now believe that not only is MFC corrupted as far as camscore but now with studio models. I say this because I met an MFC camgirl. I met her at like the last minutes when she was camming I saw he ron mfc and her room topic was set to im quitting mfc and everybody was tipping her, etc but she gave out her kik so people can keep in touch with her and whatnot so i kik her and apparently as I have been told by one of her trusted regulars that she tells everything to that she is planning a comeback her studio is and she has been having a hard time keeping her camscore up and getting people to tip since an good night for her is 1k tokens a night. This alleged regular also says that shes taking a break to work on another site that her studio offers and when she makes a grand return to mfc she will be a guaranteed top model in top 20 because her studio she is with will be doing the tipping and putting in work as far as marketing and tipping since there business has flourished. Can this really happen? Why is she trying to bamboozle people? If this can really happen does this happen with every top model that is #1 cause it sounds so corrupt that karcin would do this to her regulars she calls friends i feel so bad because her regulars begged her to stay and they sounded so torn apart and one of them got so sad he had to log off and they kept tipping her sooo much to get her to stay and giving her reasons to stay too. I felt so bad for them so I told them they can always visit me on mfc but the point is wtf??? is this real? it sounds dirty to make a comeback in like 2 weeks just cause she wants to start over in the 2st week of march

 

[JerryBoBerry]

 

[Fay_Galore]

I loved that one!

 

[Sevrin]

Well, now they'll have to kill you, won't they? And us, since we read your post(s). Whoever investigates our murders should probably not buy any green bananas, either.

 

[CrazyCatLady]

There is so much WTF in this post.

 

[PRISM]

I could somewhat take interest in the possibility of a studio tipping to increase cam score, but it seems totally insane for a studio to spend so much money to guarantee a model gets in the top 20.

 

[lusciouz]

Yeah, I've heard of romainian studios doing it but in the USA??? Look, karcin is pretty but for studio to spend money on he rlike that?? I dont know how she would do in the top 20 its--shes---i dont think light skinned girls can make it without going through somethings. I get it shes a pretty black girl but she ..idk i barely get it. She doesnt have one professional photo up and her camscore is not that well- http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Karcin

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Yeah, I've heard of romainian studios doing it but in the USA??? Look, karcin is pretty but for studio to spend money on he rlike that?? I dont know how she would do in the top 20 its--shes---i dont think light skinned girls can make it without going through somethings. I get it shes a pretty black girl but she ..idk i barely get it. She doesnt have one professional photo up and her camscore is not that well- http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Karcin

Did you just become a racist bastard on your third post here?

 

[ramblin]

Camscore does have an inertia of course (camscore > placement > tips > camscore), so it's certainly not unheard of for models or studios to reinvest earnings into tips in the hopes of a sustained boost. A decent chunk of that reinvestment, of course, goes to MFC, and another chunk to taxes, so it's not an infinitely repeatable loophole.

I don't see it as corruption - just working the system a bit. If this studio wants to try to boost a model all the way to top 20 I wish them luck.

 

[Sansa]

B A M B O O Z L E !

 

[Teagan]

For one I would take anything someone else says on the internet with a grain of salt. That said...

This happens all the time. Not just studios but solo girls as well. Whether the studio is tipping her beforehand or a girl is selling goods on a new account prebroadcast it's all for a boost and to get a bit ahead on camscore. I dont see anything wrong with it. Either it will work and she gets noticed more and thus more tippers that she does deserve since she is putting in the work, or it wont work and she will not get more tippers and go back down in camscore. Usually when we see inflated scores and the girls hop on cam they do fail as they have no regulars to keep that score up where it was. She hasnt built those relationships at all. If a studio did the tipping to give her that boost she not only has to work to keep that score up but also work to pay the studio back on their "investment."

Ive never seen a studio tip to get a model in the top 20 though that I can recall. Maybe tipping her to get her score a bit up and hoping that boost will continue with others tipping though, yeah that happens. Tipping to try to get a room going, probably happens too. I can say for certainty though no this does not happen with every top 20 model.

Either way I dont think this is bamboozling people in any way. Nor doing anything wrong to her "regulars" at all. Its great they were tipping her to stay and not leave for a bit or at all, but really.... if you want a model to stay you should be tipping her what you can all along. If she's struggling and cant get tippers then should she really stay where she is just for the people who arent really paying her bills? No. One night does not help consistently not making goals long term. This is a job. If your job is not paying your bills then anyone has a right to leave it. Even if it's just for a bit to try to come back bigger and stronger.

 

[Sevrin]

I had not heard of this model before. She is cute, but I'm not sure why any studio would invest serious money in a 1k cam score model like that. They'd be better off with a model with a bit better track record than that, I'd think.

Anyway, it's one thing to tip a model into a high cam score, simply because of the cam score formula, especially if it will be a new, studio-owned account. A model with even a moderately organized following can get a 5k+ cam score pretty easily with a new account, at least for a few weeks. Tipping a model into the top 20 any time after the first of the month is a whole different story.

The whole thing sounds like bullshit.

 

[Ambers Troll]

I had not heard of this model before. She is cute, but I'm not sure why any studio would invest serious money in a 1k cam score model like that. They'd be better off with a model with a bit better track record than that, I'd think.

Anyway, it's one thing to tip a model into a high cam score, simply because of the cam score formula, especially if it will be a new, studio-owned account. A model with even a moderately organized following can get a 5k+ cam score pretty easily with a new account, at least for a few weeks. Tipping a model into the top 20 any time after the first of the month is a whole different story.

The whole thing sounds like bullshit.

I do pretty much agree with this. It is alot to invest in a model.


But let's assume it is all true.
I think it is very low behaviour to use your members in this way. I consider it to be stealing the golden eggs and killing the goose in a business sense though.

I think more studios should invest in their models. Sometimes it appears that some do, especially in russia, with mixed results. A little reinvestment is ok, it can be a very worthwhile exercise.
One thing studios can offer is a fresh start when things go badly for a model, this is probably what is occuring in this case.

I would not call this corruption, models and studios will try a variety of ways to get members to spend on them and to improve the model's position on a site. Being a liar is allowed on MFC, how many times do members click pvt and get nothing in return? But they warn of this when we join, it is buyer beware at all times.
The worst thing I have seen occur in regard to manipulated rankings/ camscore was the bot generated BAF token issues quite a few years back, but that was simple theft from MFC.

 

[Ambers Troll]

edit/ additional: Would leaving on a boost, then retuning with the same account on a boost say after 50 days (working another site between), greatly improve camscore? Would say 50 days worth of camscore before leaving fall off it or would this be a waste of time ?

 

[PRISM]

I had not heard of this model before. She is cute, but I'm not sure why any studio would invest serious money in a 1k cam score model like that. They'd be better off with a model with a bit better track record than that, I'd think.

Anyway, it's one thing to tip a model into a high cam score, simply because of the cam score formula, especially if it will be a new, studio-owned account. A model with even a moderately organized following can get a 5k+ cam score pretty easily with a new account, at least for a few weeks. Tipping a model into the top 20 any time after the first of the month is a whole different story.

The whole thing sounds like bullshit.

I do pretty much agree with this. It is alot to invest in a model.


But let's assume it is all true.
I think it is very low behaviour to use your members in this way. I consider it to be stealing the golden eggs and killing the goose in a business sense though.

I think more studios should invest in their models. Sometimes it appears that some do, especially in russia, with mixed results. A little reinvestment is ok, it can be a very worthwhile exercise.
One thing studios can offer is a fresh start when things go badly for a model, this is probably what is occuring in this case.

I would not call this corruption, models and studios will try a variety of ways to get members to spend on them and to improve the model's position on a site. Being a liar is allowed on MFC, how many times do members click pvt and get nothing in return? But they warn of this when we join, it is buyer beware at all times.
The worst thing I have seen occur in regard to manipulated rankings/ camscore was the bot generated BAF token issues quite a few years back, but that was simple theft from MFC.

Its really not much difference compared record labels buying the music on itunes to make it popular or people buying twitter followers.

 

[lusciouz]

No no no ! I'm not being racist but she is gorgeous in a sense but I have black friends. Anyways If my studio helped me like that if I had one then I'd stay almost forever . Does anyone know if aspenrae is with a studio? Which one?

 

[Teagan]

No no no ! I'm not being racist but she is gorgeous in a sense but I have black friends. Anyways If my studio helped me like that if I had one then I'd stay almost forever . Does anyone know if aspenrae is with a studio? Which one?

Its not like they're "helping" to be a good studio. They put in the money then you're indebted to them for that much money. The girls have to pay it back. You dont see a cent till you do that. And as I said it never actually works because they don't have the backers to keep those scores and it plummets right back down. You really could end up owing a heck of a lot of money with this route. They also do it to keep making money off of you even if you do happen to make what you owe them back. They will always get a percentage from you. For not really doing anything you cant do yourself honestly.

And no she doesnt work for a studio. She did it with hard work and determination. You're not gonna find some easy way to get up there besides that.

 

[lusciouz]

I love aspen that's crazy ...this here we are talking about

 

[The Insider]

Anything can be bought, but we aren't talking about the oscars/grammys which the money spent can have a serious payoff.

In the past, models I've worked for I've "salted" the room, or primed the pump so to speak. Spending & tipping some in her room as an impetus to goad others into doing the same.

But there's no affiliate side prog on mfc so any tokens I buy it's just like any joe blow. So why spend $100 or $1000 on tipping a model i guess in your studio where she's gonna get half of that & I guess the studio boss then says "ok, gimme back that $500?"

 

[zippypinhead]

But there's no affiliate side prog on mfc so any tokens I buy it's just like any joe blow. So why spend $100 or $1000 on tipping a model i guess in your studio where she's gonna get half of that & I guess the studio boss then says "ok, gimme back that $500?"

Sounds like a wonderful recipe for indentured service to me. Not that anything like could ever possibly happen in camland, mind you.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

New Found Glory on ACF. Man, they were terrible but I'd be lying if I said I didn't own a few of their cd's as a youngin.