My experience with MFC / Models Earnings

[FlimsyRobot]

I wanted share my experience with everyone and to see what comments you would have

I started using MFC like 6 months ago and my spending habit was around 8000 tokens a month. I don't really use MFC for sexual gratification, more like socializing/helping out the girls if I think the ones I talk to warrant this. I just don't
get the slightest satisfaction with paying for sexual shows so I don't do it.

Lately though I've had a change of heart and I have drastically cut down on my expenditure. I was under the impression that many of those "quiet" rooms generally make little for the girls so I always felt to help out little. Also the girls pretending
to struggle kind of lured me into this spending.

However recently someone from the members lounge opened my eyes and made me see that all those girls who finish at #600-#700 MissMFC actually make a small fortune, like around $4000 a month and those who finish #100-#200 over $15,000 net income (before taxes) easily. Can anyone here confirm these figures?

Looking at some of the luxurious apartments that some work from it is not surprising anymore. I am also quite surprised at what a gold mine MFC is for many girls (not just the top ones) and am even more surprised that the rooms I visit even though are generally speaking "quiet" with never more than 10-15 premium members in yet they generate more money per month for the girls than what most people will ever see from their "normal" jobs. I can imagine in eastern Europe this amount of money is seriously life changing.


The fact that they pretend to struggle yet they make a ton has put me off and I admit all this had me fooled for a while. I was often told "I really really need to reach my goal today or i'll struggle financially" or other times "help me have holidays" .

I was under the impression that I am helping people out who actually struggle but its evident to me now they don't REALLY need my money as much as they pretended to. If you go through 5k a month in east Europe and you are struggling you need check your head.


Basically to sum it up the top #1000 girls make far more than I thought and this has affected me in how much I spent on them as they really don't struggle at all.


Has anyone felt the same thing and consequently reduced his spending?

 

[JickyJuly]

Look at someone like Kickaz and how she works

and now it all makes sense.

 

[sweetbee]

Did I ban you from my room? Or is there someone else going room to room dumping this “models make more than they advertise” ramble on public chat without even saying hello to the host first?

tip because you are entertained (yes that includes socially) If you aren’t, dont tip, problem solved.
If you are still worried about what your entertains make after, you better reflect on the possible internal misogyny that makes it unacceptable for a camgirl to succeed but allows any other business owner the same luxury without a peep.
I seriously never see people complain about earnings of business owners who’s service they enjoy, unless they are trying to validate stealing from them. Real common excuse used to validate piracy

Came here to say I had this same guy in my room on Friday! Rubbed me wrong asking about money without ever having tipped? Very much came across that he was trying to prove that some model didn't deserve to be tipped.

 

[sweetbee]

He also thought that the average Miss MFC rank for all models on the site is 600. Like lol wut

 

[LilyPink]

Your figures about London are completely wrong but I'm not going to dignify your probing with the details.
This has gone way too far and how much a model makes and what she does with it is not any of your business.

This is thinly veiled misogyny.

 

[Marceline]

You are simply throwing out statements with nothing coherent to ground them on.

Actually, everything I said was a response to stuff you yourself posted. You just didn't like my response, so you're trying your hardest to deflect while also insult me.

I never articulated my position on why I thought some girls as morally bankrupt. You seem to
be replying to someones else's post not to mine.

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the amount of girls that are morally bankrupt, completely demoralized by MFC /

I never said I am on MFC for the purpose of helping "poor cam girls"

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I don't really use MFC for sexual gratification, more like socializing/helping out the girls if I think the ones I talk to warrant this.

I could go on, but you get the point.

Be patronizing to someone else.

I actually wasn't being patronizing. At least, it honestly wasn't the intention. I made deductions based off your self-righteous, holier-than-thou, "how dare these naked internet womanz make a 'small fortune' of 4000 a month?!" posts. If I'm being honest, I can totally understand how you would be turned off in a situation where you find out that someone was begging for money for something and turns out it was just a hustle. The thing is, you just heard from another member that there's girls in the top 1000 who make what you consider to be a lot of money and got upset from there. Other people in this thread did a terrific job in breaking down the living costs and how far $4000 a month really gets you, so I won't go into that. However, what made me respond was the misogynistic undertones of all your responses. Also, I said it before, but I'll say it again, your word soup response seemed like little else but a patronizing way to give yourself a hug to feel better because you didn't like what I had to say, which again, was based off your own responses.

You really need to educate yourself on the difference between instinctive sexual response to a good looking body and appreciation for the aesthetics of the actual physical form in front of you. If you don't get it say you don't get it and ask for elaboration without questioning the integrity of my words.

Read about the criteria that judges adhere to for certain beauty contests for specific industries around the world to gain a better insight into the world of aesthetics of the female form. In a more general note the more you learn the more you can "see" that you couldn't before, and I say this as an information for you to consider not as a lesson.

I mean, come on, dude. But, I have time, so I'll bite.

You really need to educate yourself on the difference between instinctive sexual response to a good looking body and appreciation for the aesthetics of the actual physical form in front of you. If you don't get it say you don't get it and ask for elaboration without questioning the integrity of my words.

To put it in layman's terms:

Instinctive sexual response = "Wow, the chick is super hot! SCHWIIINNGG!"

Appreciation for the aesthetics of the actual physical form in front of you = "That woman is beautiful. Look at the way her hair shines in the cool blue light of her ring light and the way the ring light's circle of light is also reflected in her blue... is it blue... could it maybe be blue green? or grey? damn monitor colors.... eyes. Look at the slight muscle definition. How one arm is slightly more muscular than the other from all those spankathons. And those forming abs from all those Workout Wednesdays. My, my, this sure is pleasing to my eyeballs."

Read about the criteria that judges adhere to for certain beauty contests for specific industries around the world to gain a better insight into the world of aesthetics of the female form.

Lololol, nooooo thanks. This is so ridiculous. I know you were trying to sound intelligent, but this ain't it.

In a more general note the more you learn the more you can "see" that you couldn't before, and I say this as an information for you to consider not as a lesson.

Oh, I did see this as a lesson. Namely, in:

"Mansplaining 101" and "How To Be A Pseudo-Intellectual Douche On The Internet"

You did a fine job at showing you're well versed in both.


Anyway, I refer you to @ForceTen 's post, since he got into basically everything else I could say. Most specifically:

Part of me thinks you're a red pill/MGTOW follower while the other part of me thinks you're some self-righteous twat of a troll. Perhaps both. Either way, perhaps you'll stay committed to your post and not come here again.

 

[FlimsyRobot]

Would you ever go into a mosque to try have a discussion on the merits of Islam? Futile exercise. Nuff said from me.

 

[Marceline]

When you say you won’t be replying again, but then you just can’t stop yourself from saying more ridiculous stuff:

 

[Mara_Jayne]

You are on MFC to be entertained regardless of the type of entertainment you get from it (sexual, socialization, something nice to look at ect.) So tipping is actually quite simple. You receive your choice of entertainment from a model and you tip said model for the entertainment she provided you. Because all models are there to work. Models provide a wide range of entertainment and most all have their own personal boundaries.

If you end up offended after finding out you were not giving to a charity case but actually paying a model for her time and attention then you are using the site wrong. Even models who are making decent money right now are online working for said money by providing entertainment to members who go on the site for a wide variety of reasons.

All I hear is you feeling less special knowing your tips are not as life changing as you originally thought. Now you're here trying to dig up what models make so you can hate on models making more money than you think someone should make in this line of work.

Get over it. If you enjoy your time with someone on MFC it means she did her job and when someone does a job the person on the receiving end should tip to show their appreciation(one with good morals will understand this concept quit easily) not double check to see if this model is struggling enough for you to choose her worthy of a few tokens.

 

[Danigirl]

Would you ever go into a mosque to try have a discussion on the merits of Islam? Futile exercise. Nuff said from me.

would you ever go to a pro cam girl forum and wrongly mansplain how to be a cam girl to those making a living from it?

oh futile exercise. Oh shit. Those girls (and guys) actually know their industry more than you. Go figure.

I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks kicka** is a bastion of moral superiority.

 

[Pia]

First of all, I'd like to point out that when you give a cookie to someone maybe you shouldn't care if that person had eaten before and despite that person is full of cookies, you shouldn't condition the things you give.
Said that I'd like to add up that cam sites aren't charity foundations. Stay away from the "Pretty Woman"/damsel in distress idea.
Uhmm... well, yeah... many models earn good money but not because you don't see what happens when the cam is off means isn't happening... is not an easy job, at all!! From my personal experience, I had to stop working as a pre-school teacher (second career I studied), say goodbye to bonuses, health security, easiness to get financial credit, growth in the teaching field and the stigma is REAL. I have to be very careful and strong to handle that situation, $$ not always pays out what you are putting on the table but it might help to reach personal goals. Besides I had to learn merchandising in the porn indistry, accountancy, psychology, fetishes and sex culture, video and website editing, lighting, and photography... all that in a year. I'm not complaining 'cause I love learning buuut if I'm honest... it is not easy.
I started on MFC on April, I give a non-nude, chatting and music show and since then I only stream on Sundays for about 3 hours and I'm SO afraid of going live because I don't want to spoil my cam score, I'm terrified of losing my few points therefore what I usually earn on MFC isn't enough to pay my VERY modest life, I don't even have a car and I buy very few things with credit xDD so, that idea of the rich model might not be real dude.
To sum up, MFC is indeed a "gold mine" for many but after a lot of behind the scenes work, when the cam is off there's blood and sweat. Even for studio models, their struggle might be slightly different but is real. Many are like "you just buy a cam, move your ass and get a lot of money.... piece of cake!" Uhm.. you don't have a clue, seriously.

 

[Cbmodel777]

I participate in a few forums and there's one in particular where people joke about becoming a cam model and making bank. I just laugh and shake my head. It's not easy, there are real risks and real fears and real issues. Someone could make $400 in one day and then not make more than $20 for the next three days, or longer. The more saturated the industry, the harder it becomes to be successful.

 

[Diana_Devil]

Well i have an word for you : LITTLE WILLI BIG MOUTH !!!

1. How much a cam girl make its not your fucking bussiness. This is our job and we are self employed so every cam girl or escort or prostitute sell her body and image how the fuck she likes and she doesnt have to give you any explination. If you attend to any of these services then pay for it and disscuss in prior what you want , she can tell you yes or no !!!
2. Woman body bla bla shit !!! Sorry but every human being on this earth can do whathever he likes with his body , so if we choose to shove dicks in all our holes on cam or not its our choise so if you have a problem with that then go in the field and stay with the sheeps and sing Brother Jack song!!! Do not like then do not watch !! END of discusion!!!!
3. All these sites are sexual adult entertainement so if you are not ok with this do not enter!!!!!
4. You are not agree with ask money for a certain sexual service?!£!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really!!!????? Then why you do not go to the reastaurant and complain to the owner you do not like him that he has a fixed price for everything??????????? Even when you go to the toilet you have to pay because its a service you need or attend , if you can not understand and acceptit then tie your asshole and keep it inside!!!!!! Its normal to get priced when you ask a service!!!!!
5. You are not agree how a cam girl run her show ?!! Who cares?! Every bussines owner run his bussines as he likes because he target a certain clientele, and if you do not like thats its your problem!!!! You can not ask an funeral catering specialist to perform an wedding in the cemetery as long as he does not have it listed in his service!!!!!
6.Cam girls are not social cases !!!! So stop acting like we do not deserve to make more money than you !!
7. You are there only to chat ?!!!!!! Fine!!! Then if you want total and non sexual attention then take the girl in true private and she will do as you please as long as you pay , if she offer this kind of privates of course!!!

4000 dollars at month a small fortune???!!!!! damm fuck do not make me laugh! Where i live i need that money only to mantain my own ass without counting that i have a family, and monthly !!!! And guess what those money are only peanutes!!! The taxing to all those and contributions you have to count it separatelly!!!

 

[Slowburst]

There are literally thousands of MFC models that make/made more money than I do. If I limited myself to only tipping or chatting with a certain financial income range, then I would have missed out on getting to know some amazing ladies over the years. I have had great experiences with models who cover all "camscore" ranges. It's not about the numbers, it's about the people.

 

[LilyPoole]

How do you find those? I only ever see 1300-1700 girls online. I doubt there are 20k active models.

I finished #10580 for the month and made $197 I tried to log on at least 15 - 30 min a day. Due to the cam score system, and get scared to stay on longer just do do more damage to my general ranking on the site. I’m not looking for a handout though. I want to be genuinely entertaining the folks in my room, not feel like people are throwing tokens at me because they have some sort of faux help the needy boner. People that tip out of some sort of I’m helping poor girl feels tend to be the most demanding jerks. If you were in my room tipping with this attitude, even though I’m currently on the super low end of models, I’d probably kick you like I did the dude expecting I do everything he says for one token a minute in free chat last week

 

[ClaraBlack]

I think some of you may be forgetting than 4000$ in the US may be not much, but in other countries you can live pretty well and that's more money than the average income. In my country, Spain, that amount is pretty good, not many people earn that, you won't be living like a millionaire but after taxes you end up around 3000€ which lets you live in a good positioned place etc. Not like a millionaire but definitely upper middle class.