You are simply throwing out statements with nothing coherent to ground them on. You seem to be deducing random things with no actual relevance. I am making subjective statements and you seem to overlook that by the looks of it. I am not making statements about what should or shouldn't be but about what I personally prefer for myself.
There is a leap in logic to suggest that because someone is sexual she is also therefore morally bankrupt. I never articulated my position on why I thought some girls as morally bankrupt. You seem to
be replying to someones else's post not to mine. I never said I am on MFC for the purpose of helping "poor cam girls" as you describe. Be patronizing to someone else.
For me its just another chat room girls on camera. If you cannot accept this keep it to yourself and don't lay judgement on me so frivolously. You point the finger at me for judging when you are doing the same.
I joined MFC to look at hot chicks and at that point of looking at the various girls at no point did I get aroused sexually or thought of "shaking the snake". I'd imagine and hope that I know better than you how I felt and perceived the whole thing but perhaps am just lying here by trying to win you over *rolls eyes*.
You really need to educate yourself on the difference between instinctive sexual response to a good looking body and appreciation for the aesthetics of the actual physical form in front of you. If you don't get it say you don't get it and ask for elaboration without questioning the integrity of my words. With all that said, I would agree that sexual appreciation and aesthetical appreciation might have some slight overlapping that isn't self evident and would require justification however they are largely two different things.
Read about the criteria that judges adhere to for certain beauty contests for specific industries around the world to gain a better insight into the world of aesthetics of the female form. In a more general note the more you learn the more you can "see" that you couldn't before, and I say this as an information for you to consider not as a lesson.
I do not try very hard to convince anyone, why would I? Being comprehensive is perceived by you someone who tries hard to convince people? Convince who exactly and why? what do I have to gain or lose typing here anonymously?
I was only curious to read peoples feedback on my experience but in your case find your comments superfluous at best and at worst highly unparsimonious.
Dude, shove a sock in your piehole and STFU with your contradictions and self-righteous bullshit. You for fuck's sake said you don't agree with models and what they do on MFC in this post.
A friend of mine one day when we were chatting on ICQ told me "look at these hot chicks". I then got on MFC and being single and all I decided to "take a peek". Now, mind you, it was never in me and never will be to pay for sex shows, snapchats and all that but at the same time I personally appreciate and value a lot the female form at the point where I judge it to be aesthetically outstanding. It is not sexual at all.
I had no intention of ever becoming premium. However I begun some conversations here and there as a basic member and slowly I got to see MFC as StarBucks (no joke). A place to go, have a chat, kill some time and leave. With that said I realized that these girls have a job there and since I can afford it why not help them out a little as they in turn keep me "entertained". I like helping out people, it is just in me. It is also in me not to reward deception.
In a nutshell, being single and bored, not having a great social life due to being introverted, plus being tired from work made me "look for things" to do online to relax before I go to sleep. I only spend what I can and don't care about losing it. So basically the way I use MFC is fun, for me and only for me though. Others use MFC differently.
Lastly, given the amount of deception that goes on, the ridiculous members, the so called white knights, that I come across in rooms, the excessive sexualization and objectification of the girls from members, how almost all girls assume that for a guy to be on MFC therefore he must be a pervert/loser, an underlining non-verbal attitude that I can discern that goes like "yes, yes you are a nice guy but you are on MFC therefore something MUST be wrong with you", the amount of girls that are morally bankrupt, completely demoralized by MFC / life, those who just stick a dildo and off they go to make money which offends my standards which are telling me that it's not ok to have a price tag for everything just because it generates money and so forth. Nothing wrong being on MFC, its what you do while on MFC that matters to me.
There are what I would call good girls on MFC, for sure, however am not sure I want go through all the "undesirable ones" to find the good ones. Also you now know how I view MFC and the kind of girls who generate income by being sensual, elegant, classy, humble and sophisticated don't exist in my book and I'd imagine they couldn't exist as these characteristics wouldn't sell well or easily on MFC.
I killed some time for a few months and that's about it. Other than Amber and maybe 1-2 others I have no great interest being active.
Amber is a cool person that makes you feel at home without a hint that shes judging you for being there hence I signed up on her forum. A splendid community indeed.
Look at someone like Kickaz and how she works and a few others. There are many different ways. Also clearly as evidenced by many models the "how I do" matters a lot more not the "what I do". "Adult material" is a lot more expansive and inclusive than you may think.
Ahh, you're splitting hairs trying to defend your waning "moral virtues". I've known kicka over the years, having been in her room a number of times and tipped her quite often. Same with other partial or full nude, non-explicit, models. Sure, they may not be using toys, masturbation, etc. publicly or in privates. But, they still use sexual stimulation to entice or seduce you to tip and someone like kicka also uses a high level of energy in coordination with sexual stimulation. There's a big push by kicka and a few others to say they aren't prostitutes and should not be lumped in with sex workers such as escorts or prostitutes. However one looks at it, this all falls into the "adult entertainment" realm to which the draw and enticement is sexual arousal and stimulation of some level.
Perhaps you'd like to try and split those hairs even further?
You talk about deception from models? Since you used kicka as an "upstanding" model. Perhaps you should look into her past of her being an MFC model. She's been very deceptive on her tweets, her life, etc. Some examples: Retiring because she has cancer, and not sure she'd come back so she made a big deal of retiring to get a ton of money. Well, she came back to camming but with claims of having a kid and a husband who she was married to for many years. Some "cancer", huh? There's a lot of people who question if she even has a kid since she's always leaving it in the care of an "incompetent nanny" some of whom have attempted to steal and blackmail her while she's off travelling the world looking for banks who will deal with adult made money. She's also mentioned how she's had nothing but problems with Mexican workers, businessmen, etc. She's also ripped on many other models, some members, and MFC, for a number of things. Not quite the thing one should be doing when they were at/near the top of the revenue. But, continued controversy and drama seems to have a certain level of appeal to select individuals when it's presented in a certain point of view. Yeah, real upstanding person you used there...
Looking at a naked body for sexual gratification and appreciating it aesthetically are both legitimate ways of expressing oneself however are two largely different exercises. I would hope more girls realized that there are men who react in more ways than just sexually when looking at naked girls and this very fact doesn't for a moment exclude us or label us as outsiders that have no place in the "adult scene". Nor does it make us insecure. If you realize this then you might start working towards catering to this segment of the market which may or may not be small. Just do what makes money without thinking too much about it. You can come across uncomfortable realizations if you do. Don't take that risk.
So, again, why did you go to MFC? Oh yeah, because your friend told you to go check out those hot chicks on MFC. You contradict yourself so much with the above statement compared with your previous posts where you say women shouldn't do whatever to make money.
Now, since you want to talk about sexual gratification vs aesthetically appreciating the female body. Sure, these can be two different aspects. However, what's the intent and how is it performed and acted upon?
Camming sites such as MFC, CB, SM all are strongly sexually oriented. It's their draw, and 99.999% of the models there are doing something of a sexual nature to gain revenue.
Clip sites such as OnlyFans, Clips4Sale, etc. are still heavily sexually oriented. There's a lot of female bodybuilders who use these sites (particularly OF) as revenue generation performing acts of sexual content.
Now, since I touched on the subject of bodybuilding, that is generally where appreciation of the human form is. Yes, contestants go on stage in very small outfits. This isn't to be sexually pleasing. It is to show off the most of the body while still retaining a level of decency so as not to compare certain anatomical parts. This is to show the level of preparation, cutting/shredding they've done for aesthetics and symmetry. It's difficult to show the vascularity and muscle definition under a one piece or tank and board shorts. For the record, I've been to a few different bodybuilding shows as well as known a number of competitors over the years so I'm familiar with many aspects of bodybuilding and competitions in general
Another form of non-sexual performance would be certain forms of entertainment such as Cirque Du Soleil shows, belly dancers, and other types of performers. While I'm sure there are a very small amount of people who may find this sexually gratifying on some level, it's certainly a far cry from adult themed such as cam and clip sites.
Part of me thinks you're a red pill/MGTOW follower while the other part of me thinks you're some self-righteous twat of a troll. Perhaps both. Either way, perhaps you'll stay committed to your post and not come here again.
Just head to the #10,000 - #20,000 zone. I'm certain your 8000 tokens will be hugely greatly appreciated and your philanthropic nuts may even feel a few little tingles of excitement. 
