MFC Social Stats

[JubalCobb]

yesterday mfc posted this to twitter.



I think back when I first started reading ACF some girls commented that stats like this would trip their OCV. 3 new friends today. But the total number of friends is down by 5. Oh no anic99

do these stats (unique room visits, visits over 5 minutes, friended, bookmarked) help?
Or is it more interesting but not directly useful?

 

[Osmia]

yesterday mfc posted this to twitter.



I think back when I first started reading ACF some girls commented that stats like this would trip their OCV. 3 new friends today. But the total number of friends is down by 5. Oh no anic99

do these stats (unique room visits, visits over 5 minutes, friended, bookmarked) help?
Or is it more interesting but not directly useful?

When developing web applications, I sometimes will produce new screens or reports simply because they can be done. You have all this data waiting to be sliced and diced and exposed in different ways. That's how this "Social Stats" report strikes me. In fact, a lot of the enhancements that MFC does strike me as the same sort of phenomenon. That's not to say they're useless; just that they seem incremental and build on functionality or data that they obviously already have.

 

[AwesomeKate]

Getting members to add you as a friend is very important to room count. I like having these numbers because now I can see what kind of shows get me the most friend adds.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

The Unique Room Visits is the one I'm curious about. Has anyone asked what that includes? Does it just include premium members, or is it also basics and guests? Judging by some of the numbers I've seen posted I suspect it includes everything. I'm also wondering if 'room visit' actually means they went to the room, or if they pull up a models video from one of the lounges is that included as well?

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I've seen a lot of ladies on twitter talking about how these stats are depressing to them and unhelpful. I agree they could have more information, but for me.. they're really useful.

If I have a high bounce rate.. then I know i need to be doing more to entice people to stay. Or check my mic etc to ensure there's not something small that's causing people to leave fast.

The really high #s of people that visit your room.. they're just people scrolling/bouncing around. It's honestly not *personal* if they don't happen to stay. Finding you have high #s there is a great opportunity for you though - it's a good thing!

The friends list thing was really interesting. Again though, if you're finding that # is lower than you hoped.. it's just a reason to remind yourself to tell people to add you. Especially during peak traffic times. A lot of times members will ASK before adding you to their friendslist because they feel like it must be something that does something on your end (rather than simply acting as a bookmark) so it can be really helpful after a really busy show to take two seconds before your roomcount drops and say "Hey, if you came in because you noticed I was furiously fucking my twat and that was exciting, please don't forget to add me to your friendslist so you can find me easy again"

Type it too, for all those dudes on mute.

No, they might not have tipped this time. And yeah that might be a little bit infuriating. But if they friend you you have next time to convince them to tip. They may wander in on their payday.

I dunno, i was honestly a bit perplexed by the negativity I saw in my feed about this feature. I'm a stat junkie,I see the information as opportunity to know more about where I can do better and grow. They change nothing, you are still in control of everything that happens in your room.

 

[Yavin4MFC]

I'd be excited for these stats, as Miss_Lollipop says. Same with Twitter stats and ManyVids stats and wherever else you promote and sell content. It's there to help figure out best times to post, what type of posts get the best response, which days of the week are best for camming...data can be overwhelming but also super useful and helpful.

I dunno, i was honestly a bit perplexed by the negativity I saw in my feed about this feature. I'm a stat junkie,I see the information as opportunity to know more about where I can do better and grow. They change nothing, you are still in control of everything that happens in your room.

Yeah, it's huge and can be of tremendous value. And I think you are doing an amazing job of showing that to a lot of models.

 

[LuckySmiles]

I don't understand the point of the bookmarks... why might someone bookmark vs friend add? They are also right above one another on the member screen.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I don't understand the point of the bookmarks... why might someone bookmark vs friend add? They are also right above one another on the member screen.

One reason, Private Messages. A lot of models tend to PM people immediately upon entering their room. Also there's many models out there who sit in the big rooms and PM everyone who tips trying to get them to go to their room for a show. Members can turn off PM's all together, and we can also set them to friends only. By bookmarking we can keep track of models who we like their show's and want to visit again, but really don't want them to be PMing all the time.

Other than that it's just a different way of sorting. Many people may have different criteria for each. Occasional perv versus always be in her room when she's on. Something like that.

Personally I don't use bookmarks and removed it from the menu all together now.

 

[AmberCutie]

I don't understand the point of the bookmarks... why might someone bookmark vs friend add? They are also right above one another on the member screen.

By bookmarking we can keep track of models who we like their show's and want to visit again, but really don't want them to be PMing all the time.

That's how I use it on both of my member accounts. Girls who seem interesting and I want to watch/learn more about, but not ready to commit to "friend" status (I reserve that for girls I actually talk to and know a little better.)

 

[LuckySmiles]

So it's fair to say getting friend adds is probably better than getting bookmarks? They numbers seem to be vastly different, but then it's like.. what even is a bookmark.. should I WANT a bookmark

 

[AmberCutie]

So it's fair to say getting friend adds is probably better than getting bookmarks? They numbers seem to be vastly different, but then it's like.. what even is a bookmark.. should I WANT a bookmark

I just see them both as positive things.

 

[Yavin4MFC]

One reason, Private Messages. A lot of models tend to PM people immediately upon entering their room.

This is always freaky. If I randomly join a room, by choice or accident, and I'm *immediately* greeted...that freaks me out. Especially if I see room count or a low topic.

Even if it's a model I know well, it still gives me a slight freak. It's like they know you are in their room before you even enter...

(Side comment - do a lot of models do instant PMs on Twitter to new followers?)

 

[AmberCutie]

(Side comment - do a lot of models do instant PMs on Twitter to new followers?)

I pretty much instantly unfollow those that do.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I've seen a lot of ladies on twitter talking about how these stats are depressing to them and unhelpful. I agree they could have more information, but for me.. they're really useful.

If I have a high bounce rate.. then I know i need to be doing more to entice people to stay. Or check my mic etc to ensure there's not something small that's causing people to leave fast.

The really high #s of people that visit your room.. they're just people scrolling/bouncing around. It's honestly not *personal* if they don't happen to stay. Finding you have high #s there is a great opportunity for you though - it's a good thing!

The friends list thing was really interesting. Again though, if you're finding that # is lower than you hoped.. it's just a reason to remind yourself to tell people to add you. Especially during peak traffic times. A lot of times members will ASK before adding you to their friendslist because they feel like it must be something that does something on your end (rather than simply acting as a bookmark) so it can be really helpful after a really busy show to take two seconds before your roomcount drops and say "Hey, if you came in because you noticed I was furiously fucking my twat and that was exciting, please don't forget to add me to your friendslist so you can find me easy again"

Type it too, for all those dudes on mute.

No, they might not have tipped this time. And yeah that might be a little bit infuriating. But if they friend you you have next time to convince them to tip. They may wander in on their payday.

I dunno, i was honestly a bit perplexed by the negativity I saw in my feed about this feature. I'm a stat junkie,I see the information as opportunity to know more about where I can do better and grow. They change nothing, you are still in control of everything that happens in your room.

As a solo site model, who uses MFC as my main form of advertising I was very happy to see the stats!

Ive been telling girls for years that MFC is the best advertising for a solo site, and even if you average 100 people over the whole night it probably adds up to thousands and I was right!
The number of unique impressions is pretttttty great!

 

[deblackivory]

(Excuse me if I sound super confusing. English isn't my priority and I have no idea how to say it properly)

I like the stats because numbers do not lie and they exist to tell me what is working and what isn't. If the hours are helping or not. If my content is interesting enough to keep people in the room long enough to watch and if they bookmark me or friend me that they would find me again easily.

I can understand why it's discouraging but it shouldn't! They are your powerful tool so do not be afraid to be more aggressive and change things if something isn't working. I know empty room or being in a full room with non tippers are scary but numbers can help. It's not there to tell you how popular you are. It shouldn't be there to destroy or increase your confident. So don't take statics personal. It's just numbers but wonderful for business. It's there to tell you if you're getting enough traffic. It's there to tell you if you're doing something interesting enough for people to stay to see more of you.
If you aren't getting enough traffic for a while, it's telling you that you need a change in something. Maybe lighting, camera angle, scene or your contents. It could also be the time you are on.

I'm.. just.. going... to cut myself off as I'd babble on and on and on and on and on. I like numbers even if they're low but they're helpful.
I have my schedule planned out for the next two weeks to figure out which time zone bring in the best traffic for me. I'm aware there's a chart somewhere on MFC but I feel more better testing it out myself.

 

[LuckySmiles]

I easily get addicted to little things like this!! It's a handy tool beyond ranks and camscores.

Is anyone noticing a consistent percentage of unique room visitors vs Visitors that stay more than 5 min? I don't cam enough recently to accurately measure.

But for example I'm currently noticing a trend (but only have about 3 days to go on where I've been mostly chillin) Of 10% unique visitors sticking around for more than 5 minutes.

I'd be curious to know bare minimum percentages vs ideal. Like low effort vs fantastic day. What could be a goal to aim for... Also 1-2% of unique room visits resulting in a friend add and negligible amounts of bookmarks.

FASCINATING THINGSS. The more than 5 minutes stat is clutch.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I easily get addicted to little things like this!! It's a handy tool beyond ranks and camscores.

Is anyone noticing a consistent percentage of unique room visitors vs Visitors that stay more than 5 min? I don't cam enough recently to accurately measure.

But for example I'm currently noticing a trend (but only have about 3 days to go on where I've been mostly chillin) Of 10% unique visitors sticking around for more than 5 minutes.

I'd be curious to know bare minimum percentages vs ideal. Like low effort vs fantastic day. What could be a goal to aim for... Also 1-2% of unique room visits resulting in a friend add and negligible amounts of bookmarks.

FASCINATING THINGSS. The more than 5 minutes stat is clutch.

I have a hand full of shows I consider crowd pleasers, and it was so cool to see the actual numbers back it up the other night when I did one! While I knew that the room counts are higher I didn't realize the overall impressions, (over 5 min) and friend adds would be literally DOUBLE my normal "show" stats.

It makes me super motivated!

 

[Puffin]

Sound notifications and email notifications are together: On the menu for the model click 'Add Online Notifications' as highlighted in red below.



Then you can select the options required and click 'Add Notificaiton' button to add.

 

[Ambers Troll]

I do quite a bit of unfriending, almost as much as friending, which is far more significant for the model involved because it means I was interested, but on getting to know her better am no longer interested in spending on her. Friending doesn't mean I will spend but like the model enough to do so (usually we spend then friend). Personally I will friend almost anyone, so it only indicates you are actively seeking attention. To be removed from the list means you are ignoring something so much I lose interest completely.

Unique visits seem like something very worthwhile to the model. I think it is a really great indicator of potential new members interested in something more. If it doesn't translate into tokens you may be doing something to turn those newbies off. A unique visit from me means interest, expect a return visit most likely.

Over 5 minutes is a cool indicator for entertainment factor There are so many great models out there, if you can keep our attention for that long you are doing something right.

Bookmarks I don't do, so wont comment.

 

[Cutie_Kisses]

I personally love social stats, though like others, I do wish they gave a bit more information, especially regarding what a unique few is. It would also be nice to add in addition to stayed longer than five minutes if they participated in conversation or tipped, but I'm assuming that's a difficult stat to measure? What do I know.

If I have a high bounce rate.. then I know i need to be doing more to entice people to stay.

Ultimately, I see it as a learning tool. And I feel models who are unhappy with it, or think it's depressing, need to start thinking glass half full!

The friends list thing was really interesting.

This was the part that stunned me personally. I have a camscore right now of about 1700, and less than 3000 twitter followers... but I have OVER 15,000 friends and almost 2,000 bookmarks (which I didn't even know was a thing until these stats came out. I was certain it was a bug, and that number was going to drop but it has only risen. Who are you 15,000 people and why aren't you more active in my life?! I love youuuu!

I don't understand the point of the bookmarks

Even after reading about them in detail on their wiki I still don't really see why I would bookmark someone over friending them. But perhaps that's because I am a big time public chat participant and don't care as much about PMs (while perving)

If I randomly join a room, by choice or accident, and I'm *immediately* greeted...that freaks me out.

Really Yavin? This is something I pride myself on both in real life and on cam. I play a game where I try and wish my cashiers a good day before they do (since it's their job) and almost always win. The look of surprise makes me feel happy. The same goes for my MFC room. I try to pay attention to the best of my ability to who comes and goes from my room. So if you are a cutieville patron, you know it's a friendly race to see who can say hey what's up first! I never mean it to be intimidating or freak someone out. I just like people to know, that all are welcome and everyone is important to me!

do a lot of models do instant PMs on Twitter to new followers?

Share this pet peeve. No, just like PMing guys from another girls room, I don't understand the train of though on how this would be perceived as good marketing or friendship building. It's pushy and makes you feel like you're not a human with unique thoughts and feelings to contribute to the relationship!

I like the stats because numbers do not lie

HECK YEAH GIRL. I'd say you hit the mark right there.

Is anyone noticing a consistent percentage of unique room visitors vs Visitors that stay more than 5 min? I don't cam enough recently to accurately measure.

Also curious about this, would love some more input!

Enjoy your weekend ACF friends!

 

[Yavin4MFC]

Yeah, idk, Cutie_Kisses. It might just be me. Some models I'm friends with will say hi really quickly, but if I'm just browsing around, and especially if room/countdown is low...it freaks me out lol.

 

[WickedTouch]

Congrats MFC... nice idea and very interesting. Always love me some stats. Playing devil's advocate for a minute though... apparently, it seems that the stats would have us believe that …

1. A member who drops in for 5-10 mins, chats, tips and then leaves

would have the same value as…

2. A member who sits in a corner of your room, shows a level of interaction somewhat akin to that of a lump of wood and just lurks for 4 hours.

Yeah I know, I think most models would prefer that guy behind door number 1.


On that unique room visit figure, I am assuming it counts ALL visitors,even those non contributing guests and basics. Similarly, on the "friended" front, does that include basic accounts who have added a model to a friend or bookmark list or just premium member accounts? Anyone know? A bit more detail on that would be helpful methinks.

Also, bearing in mind the high levels of "friend add" that some girls are seeing, I was thinking how that might correlate with how many unique members have actually tipped from that group. After all, obtaining 15,000 new friends doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to eat and pay your rent, if they are all lurkers and freeloaders, but having 30 new tippers in your room in a month could swing it. Just a thought.

 

[schlmoe]

Congrats MFC... nice idea and very interesting. Always love me some stats. Playing devil's advocate for a minute though... apparently, it seems that the stats would have us believe that …

1. A member who drops in for 5-10 mins, chats, tips and then leaves

would have the same value as…

2. A member who sits in a corner of your room, shows a level of interaction somewhat akin to that of a lump of wood and just lurks for 4 hours.

Yeah I know, I think most models would prefer that guy behind door number 1.


On that unique room visit figure, I am assuming it counts ALL visitors,even those non contributing guests and basics. Similarly, on the "friended" front, does that include basic accounts who have added a model to a friend or bookmark list or just premium member accounts? Anyone know? A bit more detail on that would be helpful methinks.

Also, bearing in mind the high levels of "friend add" that some girls are seeing, I was thinking how that might correlate with how many unique members have actually tipped from that group. After all, obtaining 15,000 new friends doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to eat and pay your rent, if they are all lurkers and freeloaders, but having 30 new tippers in your room in a month could swing it. Just a thought.

Unless I'm mistaken, models already have pretty thorough stats on the "whos", "whats", and "how muchs" of tipping. My take on the friends, bookmarks and unique visitors is that it is on the model to capitalize on them. A lot of models do this, with specials for new tippers or variations: new tippers today, new premiums, basic to prem convert, etc.

So if a model has 5000 "friends", but only 50 or so regular tippers, that's an opportunity IMO.

 

[WickedTouch]

Oops... somehow I forgot models already had detailed tip stats... doh!

 

[Admiralfoot]

Really Yavin? This is something I pride myself on both in real life and on cam. I play a game where I try and wish my cashiers a good day before they do (since it's their job) and almost always win. The look of surprise makes me feel happy. The same goes for my MFC room. I try to pay attention to the best of my ability to who comes and goes from my room. So if you are a cutieville patron, you know it's a friendly race to see who can say hey what's up first! I never mean it to be intimidating or freak someone out. I just like people to know, that all are welcome and everyone is important to me!
!

I agree with you Cutie. I like a friendly greeting when I enter a room. I don't find it to be awkward or threatening. Now if the first pm has a demand or is immediately followed with one, I will tell them to have a nice day and leave quietly. There have been times I have logged into MFC and by the time my screen loads I have a pm waiting for me from a model friend. I find it to be really cool. I have made some type of impression on them that was positive.

 

[Boog]

I don't understand the point of the bookmarks... why might someone bookmark vs friend add? They are also right above one another on the member screen.

I guess you could say organization or a priority list. Before bookmarks were a thing I would friend everyone I had a bit of interest in so I could check them out later (you're cute but maybe you seemed angry today, maybe you're on multiple sites and I'm checking out how you run your room, etc). Since I jump around a lot, eventually that me accidentally overlook my favorite models when glancing at my friends list, especially when models changed names.
These days I'm converting many of those "friends" into bookmarks or friended bookmarks (first set of names I see)

 

[Ambers Troll]

Question? ... Do models get any stats on how many members have them on ignore? Or other stats related to fallout/ room drop off rate?

If not it may be useful for MFC to add in future, and in the longer term might improve the member experience. Would even allow more models to great and meet members without members feeling too bothered by it.
Pester power might work for our children (wives sometimes), but I think it is mostly unhelpful on cam, some stats on such things might help more models get it right.

When it comes to stats I always try to look for the negative spaces in them, so for bookmarks, friends, unique, over 5 min stats, I would want some other total site figures to measure them against, otherwise they don't mean too much. Opportunity usually comes from these negative spaces, so to set targets you must have some idea what to hunt for, then work on improving your skills to get what you want.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

Question? ... Do models get any stats on how many members have them on ignore? Or other stats related to fallout/ room drop off rate?

If not it may be useful for MFC to add in future, and in the longer term might improve the member experience. Would even allow more models to great and meet members without members feeling too bothered by it.
Pester power might work for our children (wives sometimes), but I think it is mostly unhelpful on cam, some stats on such things might help more models get it right.

When it comes to stats I always try to look for the negative spaces in them, so for bookmarks, friends, unique, over 5 min stats, I would want some other total site figures to measure them against, otherwise they don't mean too much. Opportunity usually comes from these negative spaces, so to set targets you must have some idea what to hunt for, then work on improving your skills to get what you want.

I think in this industry, focusing on what's making people leave is rarely helpful. I get what you're saying, but there are sooooooo many reasons for members to leave, many out of our control, or even about us. I think it's far better to focus on those who do like you, and what keeps them coming, as opposed to what we're doing wrong to make them leave. Every model, no matter how beautiful or witty or charming or successful she is, is going to have people leaving her in droves.

That's why I hated my old website forcing members to give a reason for cancellation. People leaving you is a sign of success; it means they found you in the first place. I got wayyyy more cancellations than other models who didn't get as many sign ups.

 

[deblackivory]

Agreed. I don't want to focus on someone who doesn't like me.

There's also a lot of models for them to browse so and they're all looking for something specific.

 

[Cutie_Kisses]

Do models get any stats on how many members have them on ignore?

Nope, we don't. I think @VeronicaChaos answered this perfectly:

but there are sooooooo many reasons for members to leave, many out of our control

but I'd just like to add. It's always more important to focus on the positive!