Man-on-cam sightings thread

[Jupiter551]

Personally, I've never reported anyone. If I saw examples of beastiality or pedophilia, I would. But I don't feel it's my job to enforce MFC's rules, even indirectly. I'm not fond of seeing men in the rooms, but see, I just go to another room when it happens.

I don't think anyone really objects to men on MFC on principle.
It's more a case of it points out how unevenly enforced the rules are.
'no penetration' - 'no masturbation' ...

Then why do I at the moment see the top girl in 'most popular rooms' in the bath with a dildo, another further down, and what looks like a cap of fisting in the middle?

And UkGameGirl just talking to camera getting higher ratings than two of the above shows

It's a legal issue. Two things - in the United States, adult material that is legal requires 2257 compliance; any person on cam must submit certified copies of original documents stating they are over 18 etc. Obviously, unauthorized men don't do this.

Secondly, it crosses the boundary between softcore and hardcore adult content, and again for legal reasons MFC is not licensed to be considered a producer of adult content, but rather a middleman etc etc, but basically speaking they have to enforce certain rules at least some of the time, if they're busted not doing so they face being shut down etc.

Public penetration, while occasionally enforced, is considered a "lesser evil" both because it's solo, or *maybe* girl/girl though penetration in public by more than one girl is rare, but either way it's both SOFTCORE, and the models are 2257 CERTIFIED.

If a model was to do something illegal, like illegal illegal such as showing an underage model or whatever, the model would be liable to prosecution, but MFC would ALSO be liable if it could be determined they allowed it to occur by negligence or non enforcement of rules.

I'm not usually a fan of authority, but I'm siding with Leo on this one - the rules are clearly stated, and some people getting away with some of them some of the time is no reason to bitch if you get caught and punished.

That would be no different to a murderer objecting because his brother-in-law got let off for speeding.

Or for that matter complaining about a speeding ticket because the car in front of you was going the same speed - tough shit, you break the rules you have a chance of being caught an potentially a punishment fitting the severity of the offence.

And just like cops, admins can't be everywhere at once. How could they possibly police upwards of 1000 rooms on both homepages to make sure all the rules were being followed?

I'm not even suggesting anyone should follow any rules they don't agree with - by all means follow your own moral compass. If you get caught because of something you did - own it.

 

[FifthElephant]

And just like cops, admins can't be everywhere at once. How could they possibly police upwards of 1000 rooms on both homepages to make sure all the rules were being followed?

Have the 'most popular rooms' up on a browser nearby.
Glance over at it every half an hour to see if there are any obvious transgressions, fine/ban the models.

A quick glance over popular room topics indicates 8 clearly rulebreaking shows - most in the top 15.

This would at least set a tone.
Either that, or get rid of the rules that you're not enforcing.

 

[Zoomer]

And just like cops, admins can't be everywhere at once. How could they possibly police upwards of 1000 rooms on both homepages to make sure all the rules were being followed?

Have the 'most popular rooms' up on a browser nearby.
Glance over at it every half an hour to see if there are any obvious transgressions, fine/ban the models.

A quick glance over popular room topics indicates 8 clearly rulebreaking shows - most in the top 15.

This would at least set a tone.
Either that, or get rid of the rules that you're not enforcing.

You delegate and distribute via the "community" you build. Build in a report button into each room. When it is pressed it takes a screenshot and generates and submits report to admins. The report button, once pressed by one user, cannot be pressed again by anyone for at least one minute. You reward correctly reported violations with 50 tkns. If multiple people managed to report the same violation, you split the tokens.

If a user repeatedly reports incorrectly, they have the privileged revoked (3 strikes of bad reports = removal of privilege, to prevent attempted black mail by members) and a "low trust" added to their profile (to signify they suck). Reporting is limited to premium users with more than just the basic $20 initial buy in (again, to dissuade black mail/spammers/those who low investment in their account). At first the reports would be massive...but once it was in place for a week or two, it'd die down as models would find it hard to break the rules without someone jumping on it fast. Ergo, profitability of breaking a rule is removed.

Extra thought could be put in to develop a system better, but honestly, I'd fucking hate it if they did something like this. The place is bad enough with White Knights being way overly protective ... imagine what it'd be like with the self styled "Police" trawling the rooms simply trying to catch girls out. Yes, they should be aware of the rules, but I'd imagine some may simply be desperate and taken advantage of by the scum that lurk on MFC...

 

[FunsizeNerd]

Secondly, it crosses the boundary between softcore and hardcore adult content, and again for legal reasons MFC is not licensed to be considered a producer of adult content, but rather a middleman etc etc, but basically speaking they have to enforce certain rules at least some of the time, if they're busted not doing so they face being shut down etc.

[begin pornographer rant]

Thought I would just clarify this a bit: you do not need a license for what MFC does. To be honest, I have yet to hear of a license for adult content specifically. The only licenses used are usually just in the distribution of content, but it's between third parties (i.e. photographer to website, studio to website and so on) and not government-issued.

There is also no difference between "softcore" and "hardcore" adult content by U.S. law. Nudity is nudity is nudity, and the U.S. just wants to make sure it's not kids being exploited. Hence the 18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement (try saying that three times fast ). All that is required is a good legal department (or a lawyer you can pay for internet legalese, for those ladies who want to start their own site) and a record keeper.

Truth is, MFC is in no danger of being shut down for having live sex on their site. They are only in danger for not having model verification. Which the United States would ream them up the ass for if given the chance. Their reasoning for not allowing a couples section probably has to do with their promotion of community interaction. That is essentially MFC's niche as a cam site: finding the girl next door live on cam, getting to know her and paying her to reenact your fantasies. Allowing couples kind of bursts that bubble.

EDIT:
Fun fact of the moment: by adult industry standards, it is still considered hardcore for any penetration at all. Whether the girl is solo in her bathtub or taking on 40 different peens in an alley by a strip club. Softcore is artistic nudity. :-D

[/end pornographer rant]

 

[Bocefish]

Leo has likely been threatened with litigation and has actually been sued equal to, or more times than anybody in the adult industry. I'd guess he's just about a teflon tiger by now and could probably pass certain parts of the bar exam no problemo, lulz.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Leo has likely been threatened with litigation and has actually been sued equal to, or more times than anybody in the adult industry. I'd guess he's just about a teflon tiger by now and could probably pass certain parts of the bar exam no problemo, lulz.

He's also known to have filed a lot of lawsuits himself.

 

[Bocefish]

Leo has likely been threatened with litigation and has actually been sued equal to, or more times than anybody in the adult industry. I'd guess he's just about a teflon tiger by now and could probably pass certain parts of the bar exam no problemo, lulz.

He's also known to have filed a lot of lawsuits himself.

It's all part of the biz, I s'pose. I just wish he took better care of the girls that work their asses off to help line his pockets.

 

[QueenMeadow]

Sorry to jump back a page, although I am loving the current conversational stand point... I just wanted to add this, as gotta save face for the boys who are brave enough to give this camming a go.

Geez these ladies all seem to have dudes with little peens everytime! Maybe I should bring my dude on cam and show off what a average dick looks like :lol: (jk)

They are all so tinyyyyyyyyyyy. Little baby penises hahah

I mean I literally have never seen such a vast array of tiny peeps! Wonder if there is a reason behind all the man on cam chicks having little wieners on parade?

I would assume the tiny penises are because of stage fright. They aren't horny cuz they want to fuck, they are fake horny cuz the boys wanna see the happy couple fuck. Kinda like us chickas, sometimes we dont want it RIGHT when the prem wants it .We are just better fakers.

How would you fake a hard on? Just curious.

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

Your probably right Meadow but, my man has been on cam with me on other sites and he has talked about cam fright but I am thinking from the pictures I saw a few of those peens looked fully hard! If your dick has cam fright wouldnt it just be soft? :confusion-shrug:

 

[Bocefish]

Guys can't fake it like women can. I can't get a raging boner shortly after a good orgasm, even after a sammich, unless there are some serious hormonal desires at play. We're just not built that-a-way. On the other hand, there have been days when perpetual horniness have gone unsatisfied too.

 

[Jupiter551]

Secondly, it crosses the boundary between softcore and hardcore adult content, and again for legal reasons MFC is not licensed to be considered a producer of adult content, but rather a middleman etc etc, but basically speaking they have to enforce certain rules at least some of the time, if they're busted not doing so they face being shut down etc.

[begin pornographer rant]

Thought I would just clarify this a bit: you do not need a license for what MFC does. To be honest, I have yet to hear of a license for adult content specifically. The only licenses used are usually just in the distribution of content, but it's between third parties (i.e. photographer to website, studio to website and so on) and not government-issued.

There is also no difference between "softcore" and "hardcore" adult content by U.S. law. Nudity is nudity is nudity, and the U.S. just wants to make sure it's not kids being exploited. Hence the 18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement (try saying that three times fast ). All that is required is a good legal department (or a lawyer you can pay for internet legalese, for those ladies who want to start their own site) and a record keeper.

Truth is, MFC is in no danger of being shut down for having live sex on their site. They are only in danger for not having model verification. Which the United States would ream them up the ass for if given the chance. Their reasoning for not allowing a couples section probably has to do with their promotion of community interaction. That is essentially MFC's niche as a cam site: finding the girl next door live on cam, getting to know her and paying her to reenact your fantasies. Allowing couples kind of bursts that bubble.

EDIT:
Fun fact of the moment: by adult industry standards, it is still considered hardcore for any penetration at all. Whether the girl is solo in her bathtub or taking on 40 different peens in an alley by a strip club. Softcore is artistic nudity. :-D

[/end pornographer rant]

Licensed was a poor choice of words -

This service is an interactive computer service as defined under 47 U.S.C. § 230(f), as well as an Internet access service as defined under 47 U.S.C. § 231(e), that is statutorily exempt from being considered a producer under 18 U.S.C. § 2257(h)(2)(B).
However, we fully support and comply with 18 U.S.C. § 2257 and 28 CFR Part 75.

MFC is required to be shown to be enforcing some rules to keep their legal status, because as soon as they become considered a "producer" of content under US law they're liable, completely, for anything that happens on the site.

Like Boce said, Leo, if you google him has been involved in so many damn lawsuits that he's basically set this up so that he is not responsible for pretty much anything that happens on mfc. You could commit any crime you want on cam and as long as he had your 2257, the law can't touch him. This doesn't however mean he can just let it run wild with couples or threesomes or whatever and never enforce any rules, sooner or later someone would make official complaints and he'd be either held liable for something or shut down.

I'm not privy to his decision making process but I still expect he has some kind of hierarchy of rule-breaking. Men and kids on cam seem to be the fastest to be enforced, as are scat and pee or whatever I guess - I never see it so I wouldn't know, then public penetration.

The law (in the US at least and let's remember MFC is worldwide) may not see any difference between a dick in a pussy and and a dildo in a pussy but most people would. One is sex and the other is masturbation. You really can't tell me they're the same thing.

While we're on the topic...think about the name MyFreeCams - yes I know you guys don't want free shows all the time because you percieve that you make less money - but economically, spread across the site I doubt that's true. It attracts customers because they see some free stuff. The social stuff hooks them so they sign up, then they spend money. Maybe only 20% ever become premiums, maybe only 10%. But the fact of the matter is it's marketing on a truly MASS scale. That's why it works. If you don't like that aspect then sites where it's private, group, or nothing are the way to go.

 

[nzhere]

Man on cams sightings thread

Very simple, the camera adds 10 pounds if its a woman and minus 3 inches if its a guy on it.
:lol:

 

[FunsizeNerd]

Licensed was a poor choice of words -

This service is an interactive computer service as defined under 47 U.S.C. § 230(f), as well as an Internet access service as defined under 47 U.S.C. § 231(e), that is statutorily exempt from being considered a producer under 18 U.S.C. § 2257(h)(2)(B).
However, we fully support and comply with 18 U.S.C. § 2257 and 28 CFR Part 75.

MFC is required to be shown to be enforcing some rules to keep their legal status, because as soon as they become considered a "producer" of content under US law they're liable, completely, for anything that happens on the site.

Like Boce said, Leo, if you google him has been involved in so many damn lawsuits that he's basically set this up so that he is not responsible for pretty much anything that happens on mfc. You could commit any crime you want on cam and as long as he had your 2257, the law can't touch him. This doesn't however mean he can just let it run wild with couples or threesomes or whatever and never enforce any rules, sooner or later someone would make official complaints and he'd be either held liable for something or shut down.

I'm not privy to his decision making process but I still expect he has some kind of hierarchy of rule-breaking. Men and kids on cam seem to be the fastest to be enforced, as are scat and pee or whatever I guess - I never see it so I wouldn't know, then public penetration.

The law (in the US at least and let's remember MFC is worldwide) may not see any difference between a dick in a pussy and and a dildo in a pussy but most people would. One is sex and the other is masturbation. You really can't tell me they're the same thing.

While we're on the topic...think about the name MyFreeCams - yes I know you guys don't want free shows all the time because you percieve that you make less money - but economically, spread across the site I doubt that's true. It attracts customers because they see some free stuff. The social stuff hooks them so they sign up, then they spend money. Maybe only 20% ever become premiums, maybe only 10%. But the fact of the matter is it's marketing on a truly MASS scale. That's why it works. If you don't like that aspect then sites where it's private, group, or nothing are the way to go.

Hm? I'm not sure if you're directly addressing me or not. The point I was making was MFC is not in any danger at all wth having live sex on their site, as long as they have the model identification. You are correct that they are not a direct producer. I don't believe I said otherwise. However, while being a service provider, they are still required to have identification of any model featured on this site, as long as they plan to sell to United States customers.

The other point I was making was the simple fact of softcore does not exist on MFC if there's penetration involved. No matter how you may view it, it is a hardcore act by definition. So, it has nothing to do with legal obligations for keeping wang off-camera. It's a personal choice to keep the site female-only. Which means any males visible on cam are by default without identification. Hence the swift banination!

 

[nzhere]

Meanwhile back at MFC

:naughty:

 

[nzhere]

:naughty:

 

[cheeks]

Your probably right Meadow but, my man has been on cam with me on other sites and he has talked about cam fright but I am thinking from the pictures I saw a few of those peens looked fully hard! If your dick has cam fright wouldnt it just be soft? :confusion-shrug:

mine is a bit smaller when tired, not really horny or a bit fright.

 

[AshleyMarks]

elitegirl on myfreecams.

 

[AshleyMarks]

still going

 

[nzhere]

 

[deadelvis]

still going

In Elitegirls room on the 19-06-11,evening gmt there were two guys who seemed high and of east euro extraction talking gibberish.
The room was advertising a 3girl two man show which i did not witness as they banned me after i called them muppets.
Who cares i don`t but the strange thing was they were waving about a
real looking pistol in their sort of drunken type banter.Sort of gangster types,
maybe the girls pimps.
cheers/chris

 

[FrecklesXxX]

^This guy just looks totally clueless. I wonder how many of these boyfriends were on their gf's comp snooping... and end up finding out the hard way that their gfs are camwhores... :lol: d'oh!

Yet another girl caught red rocket handed...

 

[nzhere]

:naughty: banned already

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

Giving head off cam for a group show :naughty:

 

[AshleyMarks]

Agent_99 at it again

 

[LiLredhairedgrl]

I finally figured out how to use my screenshot....
:-D

 

[AmberCutie]

You guys, I've asked previously that nobody upload screen caps or images of Agent99 here on the forum. Please and thank you. Your posts have been edited.

 

[nzhere]

:naughty: banned already

 

[AngelAndrea]

Yeah Agent would prefer you send them to Admin as opposed to using it to laugh at her, she wants it used AGAINST her.

 

[Bocefish]

:naughty: WTF

 

[AshleyMarks]

Unaware pizza guy.....