Looking to hear your experiences :)

[TemporarilyWhining]

When in doubt, the answer is, she's not into you. Reason:

1. If you're paying her, you're a customer. That's it.
2. If you're not paying her, and have talked for "100s of hours" but you still don't know her in real life, it's because she doesn't WANT to know you IRL.
3. She's a cam girl specifically because she doesn't want to get to know people in real life. This may be because she is already in a relationship in her life, because she is a totally different person off-cam than she pretends to be, or both. Any time you meet someone via a cam site, that happened because she set her life up in such a way not to be too personal with people. Otherwise, she could just strip, escort, sugardaddy, etc. only. Or work a completely different type of job.
4. If a woman is into you, sex worker or not, she will make sure you know it. A cam model is a pretty self-actualized person, who has some confidence, and knows how to make things happen. She also knows how to control a situation so it is exactly the way she wants it to be, but makes customers feel like they are in control the whole time. If she actually cares, and wants to know you outside of camming, that would happen without any prompting on your part whatsoever. And she definitely wouldn't take money from you if she cared about your feelings more than your wallet. (That last one is a great tip for guys dating ANY woman, no matter where you meet her... you know she likes you for you if she's not into the jewelry, the cars, the fancy house, whatever).


Members don't seem to keep their wits about them concerning the reality either. Even in the .000001% chance you actually have a shot with her in real life:

1. If she gave you her personal info, it is frequently a red flag that she is not mentally together or prepared for this job - which means there is a good chance that the relationship will end in disaster when that is how you met each other.
2. She's a cam girl. She'll likely continue to be a cam girl. You, met her as a dude was looking to masturbate to the image of a stranger online. That's not a romantic start for either one of you. It is really naive to think that history won't affect your relationship eventually, particularly if you continue to EVER use porn, or she continues to EVER cam. There is room for jealousy, disgust, mistrust, and other negative feelings, on both ends.
3. Let's be real: guys who frequent cam sites very often have social and emotional problems. Women who cam frequently have troubled pasts and emotional issues. Put them together and you're not likely looking at a healthy, long-lasting relationship. It might start hot and passionate, but often burns out in a huge ugly mess.
4. When you meet through a cam site, the relationship is built on sex - even if she's a non-nude model, it's still based on an attraction situation. What happens when she stop looking/acting like she does on cam? What happens when she has real problems to deal with, and the relationship is suddenly not all about you, your needs, keeping you feeling good and needed and important and all that? Starting from camming sets up an unrealistic expectation of who both of you are, that neither of you can keep up off-cam.

I don't think I'm saying anything here that would really insult other models here - we all know the common realities of the business. Even in a relationship that does not start out of porn, the likelihood of making it in the long run is rather poor. All the more so then when it is a relationship between a sex worker and a client. It's not sexy. It's not actually, a fantasy, in real life. Almost 100% of the time, she lets you think it's going to happen, but it's never really going to... she's just stringing you along for a paycheck. But even if does actually happen, the likelihood that you will actually be happy with the outcome, is low.


Note also, your worries for her are likely unfounded. Cam girls are human, and yes, things do go wrong in their lives. But, their entire job is often built on making guys think they are in need of rescuing, that they are your "friend," etc. You clearly have some white knight syndrome going on, and so is it really so hard for us models to imagine she is playing right into that to keep making money from you? It's your choice to believe her, but 99 times out of 100 she is lying, because her job is to tell you what you want to hear, what makes you feel important and keep giving her money. And, she's probably talking to other guys, not just you. And, she might have a husband and kids. And she might not be nearly as naive and helpless as you think she is. If you've never met her anyone but online, you have no reason whatsoever to assume what she tells you is the truth.


And no, from my personal experience, I don't ever take a work relationship off-cam. Sometimes this job is lonely, I get mildly attached to the people I talk to. Even if they don't tip much, if they are pleasant and make me laugh, I enjoy having them around. I enjoy our conversation. But I would never in a million years give them my personal information or contact info. When the job is over, so is my interaction with them. I don't wish them ill or anything. But work has nothing to do with my private home life. The nature of the job makes that an inherently unhealthy and unsafe relationship in my eyes. Business is business, and personal is personal, and never the twain shall meet. I never dated or really made serious friends with clients/coworkers/bosses in any of my other mainstream jobs before I started camming, either. I don't sleep where I eat, as they say.

 

[Wolf_3_5_9]

3. Let's be real: guys who frequent cam sites very often have social and emotional problems. Women who cam frequently have troubled pasts and emotional issues.

While I agree with most of your post, this bit feels like an unfair generalization to me. But perhaps I am still naive. I would say I’m a fairly normal guy with a normal life and professional career. I categorize myself as an introvert, so cam sites are a way to get some controlled amount of social interaction and entertainment. I just assumed most members are fairly normal too, but I concede that you models get to know other members a lot better than I do. That’s pretty interesting to learn.

Incidentally, as an introvert, I find the prospect of becoming friends with a model outside of a cam site to be daunting/frightening. I like to know that I can stop being social as soon as I close that browser window.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

So maybe another way to say it is that I am asking for any stories of any relationship that went further than the chat room.

Sure I tell you story.

There was a beautiful model, shy, awkward, and did not know how to act on cam. She was nervous. Afraid to take her clothes off. But so pretty with a smile I cannot explain.

The first two weeks she worked, 4 different men came to see her cam. They chatted with her over next year or so.

Spoiler: Guy 1...

...told her he wanted to marry her. He showed her pictures of BIG house, with a swimming pool. He told her how strong he was, he always exercised. He told her how much money he made, which was a LOT. Always talked about wedding and what a beautiful honeymoon they would have. Soon she was dreaming of the things he told her. When he came in room, her whole face would shine, so happy. Sometimes he would just chat in room, sometimes go for a long private. This went on for a long time.

But something strange...he never could show her his cam. Always an excuse "Oh I am at work right now, I can't show you on this computer." Also he kept promising to send her a picture to show what he looked like, but he never did.

She started to wonder if he was telling lies, but even after 1 year, she wanted to believe so bad. She got sneaky, and found pictures of him on the internet. He did not look like he exercised at all, very fat. His job was a lie, he did not make a lot of money. But still she could not believe he would lie to her like that.

So finally, one day she showed him what she found and said "Is this you?"

OMG. He left so quick. She knew the truth then. She said "Why did he lie to me?", then started to cry hard. She turned cam off for a few minutes, then back on and pretended like she was happy. Soon though she started crying again. Cam off. Then back on pretending to be happy. Then cry again. Cam off....rest of the day it was like that. He never came back after that.

Spoiler: Guy 2...

...she had also been talking to. After a while they started chatting when she was not at work. Talking on skype about stupid stuff. Also texting, sending pictures. She knew he liked her a lot, but she was only 19 and she didn't want man over 30.

But after a year, she started to think "maybe". So she asked him to meet. He told her he couldn't, she was too young for him. After that he stop chat with her so much.

Spoiler: Guy 3...

...she had also been talking to. Chatting on skype, texting about stupid stuff, sending pictures...

This guy stopped coming in her chat room after a couple weeks, as soon as he got her skype and im; he said he loved her too much and it made him jealous to see other guys in her room chatting. He only talked to her on skype and text.

He was very good looking, but he was 30, and staying with his parents. Still, he told her he was going to marry her. He let her know how bad his first two wives had cheated on him, and showed her pictures of how pretty they were. This bothered her a little, she didn't want a man with two ex-wives.

After a year of chatting, she went to meet him in his country, stayed with him at his parents house. Within first hour or two of that weekend, she knew she did not want to be with him. She said he did not act confident. So at the end of the weekend when she left she told him she did not want to be in a relationship. They could only be friends.

He got MAD. He asked if she was talking to other guys, and she told him yes, she talked with other guys. Then she left.

She had to block him from all chat apps the next day. He sent so many angry message that night, called her bad names, said she had hurt him so bad, said she had lied to him, then kept begging to come see him again.

Spoiler: Guy 4...

...she had also been talking to. Skype, texting, pictures...

She went to meet him a month or so after she met Guy 3. Her and her girlfriends were on vacation, he came to join them. After that weekend she said "I am in love". There were more vacations together after that, engagement ring, etc...a happy ending last I heard.

This girl was inexperienced. Some might say she was stupid for using the sites like that, but she was highly intelligent. She also convinced me she was honest to a fault. A rare individual.

One final detail, but a hugely important one...

Spoiler

This girl absolutely would not accept gifts/money away from the camsites.

And lord knows I tried when she was working; she told me the studio kept 70%. Even after she quit, she wouldn't let me buy her something for Christmas. Not even something small.

 

[BufordT]

Hopefully everything works out for you in whatever way is best.

You seem a lot more level headed than a lot of the posts we get on this topic.

I've tried to be friends with regulars in the past but it often gets to point where it gets weird. I only have one regular that I had from when I still streamed on MFC that I chat with freely. But he's really respectful of my time and doesn't message often.

Thanks Emberblaze, I try to be level headed but I recognize feelings will always have an influence for all of us, to different degrees. Your reply is also the type of thing I wanted to hear, the different outcomes when there are feelings involved, not always the "OMG I'm in love with you, will you marry me". A lot of replies now are becoming overly repetitive as if they haven't tried to read the rest of the topic. I'm trying to reply to most but soon my replies will become novellas if I try to go back through everything that has been said already.

 

[BufordT]

When in doubt, the answer is, she's not into you. Reason:

1. If you're paying her, you're a customer. That's it.
2. If you're not paying her, and have talked for "100s of hours" but you still don't know her in real life, it's because she doesn't WANT to know you IRL.
3. She's a cam girl specifically because she doesn't want to get to know people in real life. This may be because she is already in a relationship in her life, because she is a totally different person off-cam than she pretends to be, or both. Any time you meet someone via a cam site, that happened because she set her life up in such a way not to be too personal with people. Otherwise, she could just strip, escort, sugardaddy, etc. only. Or work a completely different type of job.
4. If a woman is into you, sex worker or not, she will make sure you know it. A cam model is a pretty self-actualized person, who has some confidence, and knows how to make things happen. She also knows how to control a situation so it is exactly the way she wants it to be, but makes customers feel like they are in control the whole time. If she actually cares, and wants to know you outside of camming, that would happen without any prompting on your part whatsoever. And she definitely wouldn't take money from you if she cared about your feelings more than your wallet. (That last one is a great tip for guys dating ANY woman, no matter where you meet her... you know she likes you for you if she's not into the jewelry, the cars, the fancy house, whatever).


Members don't seem to keep their wits about them concerning the reality either. Even in the .000001% chance you actually have a shot with her in real life:

1. If she gave you her personal info, it is frequently a red flag that she is not mentally together or prepared for this job - which means there is a good chance that the relationship will end in disaster when that is how you met each other.
2. She's a cam girl. She'll likely continue to be a cam girl. You, met her as a dude was looking to masturbate to the image of a stranger online. That's not a romantic start for either one of you. It is really naive to think that history won't affect your relationship eventually, particularly if you continue to EVER use porn, or she continues to EVER cam. There is room for jealousy, disgust, mistrust, and other negative feelings, on both ends.
3. Let's be real: guys who frequent cam sites very often have social and emotional problems. Women who cam frequently have troubled pasts and emotional issues. Put them together and you're not likely looking at a healthy, long-lasting relationship. It might start hot and passionate, but often burns out in a huge ugly mess.
4. When you meet through a cam site, the relationship is built on sex - even if she's a non-nude model, it's still based on an attraction situation. What happens when she stop looking/acting like she does on cam? What happens when she has real problems to deal with, and the relationship is suddenly not all about you, your needs, keeping you feeling good and needed and important and all that? Starting from camming sets up an unrealistic expectation of who both of you are, that neither of you can keep up off-cam.

I don't think I'm saying anything here that would really insult other models here - we all know the common realities of the business. Even in a relationship that does not start out of porn, the likelihood of making it in the long run is rather poor. All the more so then when it is a relationship between a sex worker and a client. It's not sexy. It's not actually, a fantasy, in real life. Almost 100% of the time, she lets you think it's going to happen, but it's never really going to... she's just stringing you along for a paycheck. But even if does actually happen, the likelihood that you will actually be happy with the outcome, is low.


Note also, your worries for her are likely unfounded. Cam girls are human, and yes, things do go wrong in their lives. But, their entire job is often built on making guys think they are in need of rescuing, that they are your "friend," etc. You clearly have some white knight syndrome going on, and so is it really so hard for us models to imagine she is playing right into that to keep making money from you? It's your choice to believe her, but 99 times out of 100 she is lying, because her job is to tell you what you want to hear, what makes you feel important and keep giving her money. And, she's probably talking to other guys, not just you. And, she might have a husband and kids. And she might not be nearly as naive and helpless as you think she is. If you've never met her anyone but online, you have no reason whatsoever to assume what she tells you is the truth.


And no, from my personal experience, I don't ever take a work relationship off-cam. Sometimes this job is lonely, I get mildly attached to the people I talk to. Even if they don't tip much, if they are pleasant and make me laugh, I enjoy having them around. I enjoy our conversation. But I would never in a million years give them my personal information or contact info. When the job is over, so is my interaction with them. I don't wish them ill or anything. But work has nothing to do with my private home life. The nature of the job makes that an inherently unhealthy and unsafe relationship in my eyes. Business is business, and personal is personal, and never the twain shall meet. I never dated or really made serious friends with clients/coworkers/bosses in any of my other mainstream jobs before I started camming, either. I don't sleep where I eat, as they say.

Your comments are fair and also accurate in the vast majority of the cases. Have you read the rest of the thread? I have said I don't have my personal doubts and that is not what I am asking for. I also said I should not have brought up the worry for her because it is vague and I will not explain the details. I will say that it is not based on any of the types of scenarios you bring up. I do appreciate your post and understand it. And I agree with it. It only seems like you have missed a large portion of what has been said. What you said is correct however. May I ask one question, do you believe there are ever exceptions to the generally accepted rule?

 

[BufordT]

While I agree with most of your post, this bit feels like an unfair generalization to me. But perhaps I am still naive. I would say I’m a fairly normal guy with a normal life and professional career. I categorize myself as an introvert, so cam sites are a way to get some controlled amount of social interaction and entertainment. I just assumed most members are fairly normal too, but I concede that you models get to know other members a lot better than I do. That’s pretty interesting to learn.

Incidentally, as an introvert, I find the prospect of becoming friends with a model outside of a cam site to be daunting/frightening. I like to know that I can stop being social as soon as I close that browser window.

I think most of the post is pretty fair but they are all generalizations. I think that part of the post hinges on what is meant by frequenting cam sites. It is probably unfair to characterize either models or members as having problems simply because they are on cam sites but I would assume the intent is that someone who has an addiction to them may have other problems. I agree though, I wouldn't want to draw any conclusions about someone's personal issues based solely on that one fact.

 

[BufordT]

Sure I tell you story.

There was a beautiful model, shy, awkward, and did not know how to act on cam. She was nervous. Afraid to take her clothes off. But so pretty with a smile I cannot explain.

The first two weeks she worked, 4 different men came to see her cam. They chatted with her over next year or so.

Spoiler: Guy 1...

...told her he wanted to marry her. He showed her pictures of BIG house, with a swimming pool. He told her how strong he was, he always exercised. He told her how much money he made, which was a LOT. Always talked about wedding and what a beautiful honeymoon they would have. Soon she was dreaming of the things he told her. When he came in room, her whole face would shine, so happy. Sometimes he would just chat in room, sometimes go for a long private. This went on for a long time.

But something strange...he never could show her his cam. Always an excuse "Oh I am at work right now, I can't show you on this computer." Also he kept promising to send her a picture to show what he looked like, but he never did.

She started to wonder if he was telling lies, but even after 1 year, she wanted to believe so bad. She got sneaky, and found pictures of him on the internet. He did not look like he exercised at all, very fat. His job was a lie, he did not make a lot of money. But still she could not believe he would lie to her like that.

So finally, one day she showed him what she found and said "Is this you?"

OMG. He left so quick. She knew the truth then. She said "Why did he lie to me?", then started to cry hard. She turned cam off for a few minutes, then back on and pretended like she was happy. Soon though she started crying again. Cam off. Then back on pretending to be happy. Then cry again. Cam off....rest of the day it was like that. He never came back after that.

Spoiler: Guy 2...

...she had also been talking to. After a while they started chatting when she was not at work. Talking on skype about stupid stuff. Also texting, sending pictures. She knew he liked her a lot, but she was only 19 and she didn't want man over 30.

But after a year, she started to think "maybe". So she asked him to meet. He told her he couldn't, she was too young for him. After that he stop chat with her so much.

Spoiler: Guy 3...

...she had also been talking to. Chatting on skype, texting about stupid stuff, sending pictures...

This guy stopped coming in her chat room after a couple weeks, as soon as he got her skype and im; he said he loved her too much and it made him jealous to see other guys in her room chatting. He only talked to her on skype and text.

He was very good looking, but he was 30, and staying with his parents. Still, he told her he was going to marry her. He let her know how bad his first two wives had cheated on him, and showed her pictures of how pretty they were. This bothered her a little, she didn't want a man with two ex-wives.

After a year of chatting, she went to meet him in his country, stayed with him at his parents house. Within first hour or two of that weekend, she knew she did not want to be with him. She said he did not act confident. So at the end of the weekend when she left she told him she did not want to be in a relationship. They could only be friends.

He got MAD. He asked if she was talking to other guys, and she told him yes, she talked with other guys. Then she left.

She had to block him from all chat apps the next day. He sent so many angry message that night, called her bad names, said she had hurt him so bad, said she had lied to him, then kept begging to come see him again.

Spoiler: Guy 4...

...she had also been talking to. Skype, texting, pictures...

She went to meet him a month or so after she met Guy 3. Her and her girlfriends were on vacation, he came to join them. After that weekend she said "I am in love". There were more vacations together after that, engagement ring, etc...a happy ending last I heard.

This girl was inexperienced. Some might say she was stupid for using the sites like that, but she was highly intelligent. She also convinced me she was honest to a fault. A rare individual.

One final detail, but a hugely important one...

Spoiler

This girl absolutely would not accept gifts/money away from the camsites.

And lord knows I tried when she was working; she told me the studio kept 70%. Even after she quit, she wouldn't let me buy her something for Christmas. Not even something small.

Thanks, those are very interesting. They cover a fairly good amount possible scenarios. It shows that pretty much everything people have said on here can be true. You still think she is a rare individual? As in you like her and are happy for her? I'm not implying anything, I simply couldn't be sure from the post.

 

[Lelo1]

@BufordT people post i'm in love with a cam girl threads all the time. I've yet to see a thread where it worked out. The threads always end with some guy heart broken, blocked, and usually in Debt. If your tipping a person to pay attention to you, and to be sexy, it's not a relationship, it's entertainment.

The fact that you don't want to talk in detail about the situation is a huge red flag.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

Your comments are fair and also accurate in the vast majority of the cases. Have you read the rest of the thread? I have said I don't have my personal doubts and that is not what I am asking for. I also said I should not have brought up the worry for her because it is vague and I will not explain the details. I will say that it is not based on any of the types of scenarios you bring up. I do appreciate your post and understand it. And I agree with it. It only seems like you have missed a large portion of what has been said. What you said is correct however. May I ask one question, do you believe there are ever exceptions to the generally accepted rule?

Um, you are asking a question of cam models - people who give their attention to others for money. You want a free answer. So,you get the kind of general answer that free buys you. If you want a more detailed answer catered to your specific situation, tip please....
I have shown you some of what I am capable of, now you'll need to invest more if you want to see more...



I'm not writing a term paper with citations, christ... why would I bother to read every post that carefully and make sure I got every detailed lined up for your personal situation, with no mistakes in it, if there is no money at the end of the rainbow for my effort? I'm very sick medically, and that much concentration is difficult for me. I'm not putting that kind of effort into a free forum message. Ultimately, you know you're the only one on Earth who can really answer your own question anyway. You're the only one who knows yourself, and the details of this woman, that would give us any clue as to how she feels or doesn't, or what will happen.

What I wrote will be true for 999,999 people out of every 100,000, at least. I can't tell you if she's your friend for real, I don't have a crystal ball. I did tell you though that in nearly all cases, they're not truly your friend, and in my own work, I am not truly a friend of the people on cam although I do care about them a little bit. I wrote my post because 999,999 male customers out of 100,000 need to hear it. If you're the lucky 1 that is was not relevant for, at least I helped somebody else!

I don't really get why you care what I believe, because what I believe as a fallible human is irrelevant to reality, or to your situation. But, academically, it wouldn't make sense for me to say there are NO exceptions to any rule. As soon as I say that, here comes all the evidence inevitably to prove me wrong. But, in my own life personally, have I ever or do I ever expect to see someone with a healthy, happy, life-long, equality-based relationship that came out of a sex worker and her client? Hell no. But what I think about that has no bearing on anybody else's life or reality whatsoever.


Note also, just as clarification, to those taking exception to what I wrote in my previous post: I specifically said it was COMMON, NOT that 100% of all people fall into these generalizations. But if you don't think that it is common that guys who peruse camsites have social issues and problems with emotional intimacy, and that it is common that sex workers have dysfunctional pasts and their own kinds of problems with trust and all that... you're not looking hard enough. Yes, there is always going to be the exception to the rule. I strive myself to be a healthy human being for instance, and not to scam people, not to feed into the unhealthy situation in the world around us, etc. But am I the exception? Well, sure, we'd all like to think of ourselves as the exception... but somebody also has to be out there to prove the rule. At the very least, I can't deny that I have the dysfunctional past that led to the failure of my health and the ultimate need for the sex work, and also that I have trust issues that sex work certainly has not done anything to alleviate. I've known a LOT of women and also men in various types of sex work, and every one of them I have known personally, fit the rule more than they fit the exception. And I've known a lot of customers... and they sure as hell prove the rule most of the time too. Is it EVERYBODY? Of course not. But the point of my post was to give a general guideline, because I'm never going to know OP personally, or whatever unnamed chick he is talking about. OP said, what is your experience? Well, those rules are a summation generally of my experience. It's not always going to be true. But it's nearly always going to be true.

People don't just fall into socially unacceptable pasttimes, and forms of employment, all by themselves with 100% health and balance behind it. And I think the more of a person's time in their life that they spend in sex work, or in using sex workers to get off, those numbers of who fits the rule go up. You don't spend your entire waking life, and all your money, flirting with a virtual girlfriend because you're well-adjusted and good at real-life relationships with attractive people in your local community. The nature of camming is never going to be nearly as real as an in-person interaction with a human would be. It's one-sided, to give you only what you want to hear and see, and nothing that you don't. So much of what you see of this person is fake, or skewed, versus how they are in person. That's why trolls, and catfishing, exist too. Because it is just too damn easy to pretend online that you're someone you're not. In person interactions are way more challenging, and people who choose to spend money on a fantasy rather than hone their skills getting good at reality, are often doing so because succeeding in reality is too hard for them.

 

[BufordT]

@TemporarilyWhining I think I have fairly clearly said that I am not asking anyone to tell me what is happening in my situation. It was to see if anyone would share what has happened in there "personal" experiences (edit to relationship is the intention not experience, but it may not have been clear). A few have done just that. It is ok if you want to give advice of a sort and I know you are right in most cases but it was not what I was asking for. That was all I was trying to say. It wasn't meant to offend you so I will just apologize. @Lelo1 pretty much what I just said and also add that the detail is strictly for her privacy.

In general, to anyone posting I don't mind any form of post. I have tried to point out when I think someone has not understood the OP and I have clarified it a little in the process. That is never meant to offend anyone. Some may not believe my intentions in the post and that is to be expected also since I understand that this type of post fits certain patterns I'm sure some of you are familiar with. I wouldn't blame anyone if they felt that way. So I will stop trying to clarify going forward. If anyone is unsure what I am asking or even my intentions perhaps it is best if they just message me. This doesn't mean I'm upset with any of the posts either. I only want to avoid the potential for a misunderstanding to escalate into something else or to clog up the thread unnecessarily. And I was trying to reply to everyone when I thought the discussion would be fairly small. That is probably not practical now.

 

[AwesomeKate]

This thread:

"Tell me that I have a chance with this cam girl."

"No."

"You all misunderstood everything and now I'm leaving."

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Thanks, those are very interesting. They cover a fairly good amount possible scenarios. It shows that pretty much everything people have said on here can be true. You still think she is a rare individual? As in you like her and are happy for her? I'm not implying anything, I simply couldn't be sure from the post.

Oh yes, she is rare. And yes, happy for her.

Usually models lie lie lie. Never caught her in one.

 

[BufordT]

Oh yes, she is rare. And yes, happy for her.

Usually models lie lie lie. Never caught her in one.

Thanks, I'm really glad to hear that. I really appreciate your examples and the perspective

 

[briandf255]

Different people seek out cam girls for different reasons: Sure, there are those who are socially awkward and can't approach women or form relationships with them in real life, but I think those people are pretty easy for cam girls to identify, because they don't know how to relate to women online, either. They are pushy, immature, selfish and don't get the hints when a girl draws the line somewhere. There are also those who have a fetish and aren't comfortable sharing that with people in real life. They prefer the anonymity of the internet and paying girls who are willing to accommodate their fantasies "virtually". They are otherwise normal people who are perfectly functional in the real world. It's just that they are either embarrassed about having a fetish or they are afraid to reveal it, fearing that an angry ex-girlfriend would tell everyone about it after their relationship ends, for example. There are also those who simply don't want the personal baggage that comes with real relationships and want something sexual that's quick and convenient and doesn't require them to eventually meet the girl's family, friends and all that. They just want to see the girls at their best and don't want to deal with real-life relationship issues. I think this last category, rather than the first, is what makes up the majority of customers.

(There was an article a few years ago in a local newspaper about what type of men go out with escorts and they found that the men were mostly business men who were either too busy to be in a relationship or they didn't want to be in a relationship. Unlike the stereotype, a surprisingly high percentage of them were not socially inept losers who couldn't attract women and therefore had to pay them for sex. I'm assuming that with cam girls it's a case of similar types of men seeking them out for similar reasons, but maybe I'm wrong.)

As for offline relationships with cam girls, I don't see why the last type of customer would even be interested in them. The whole reason they cam is to avoid that. That's why camming works as a whole, because usually the men get what they want (sexual release, virtual companionship, etc.) and the women get what they want (money)... Aside from girls who scam men for their money and men who want more than the girls are willing to give, the rest are satisfied. That's why the industry works as a whole.

 

[Mfc_anon]

I actually went back to read the OP since the author kept insisting the replies are missing his point so I do see one thing that hasn’t been addressed. OP, since you asked whether this model will be okay in this industry, what specifically do you mean? Here are some of the risks I know about cam modeling in a nutshell:

• Camming is illegal in certain countries. Because of this, the models are always under threat, not only from the law but from the studios they work for who can blackmail them
• Camming has a huge stigma that will upset families and close the door to a lot of future career paths
• Camming takes an unknown toll on your mental and physical health. The mental toll comes from dealing with other people’s issues without the appropriate maturity or training to handle such things. Physical toll comes from repetitive motions, drinking, lack of sleep.

 

[BufordT]

I actually went back to read the OP since the author kept insisting the replies are missing his point so I do see one thing that hasn’t been addressed. OP, since you asked whether this model will be okay in this industry, what specifically do you mean? Here are some of the risks I know about cam modeling in a nutshell:

• Camming is illegal in certain countries. Because of this, the models are always under threat, not only from the law but from the studios they work for who can blackmail them
• Camming has a huge stigma that will upset families and close the door to a lot of future career paths
• Camming takes an unknown toll on your mental and physical health. The mental toll comes from dealing with other people’s issues without the appropriate maturity or training to handle such things. Physical toll comes from repetitive motions, drinking, lack of sleep.

Thanks about that info, I do understand those risks a little. Since you asked I will explain briefly. If I don't make it clear enough I don't mind if you message me. A little later I said I should not have asked about her being ok. You mention some things that have bearing but I will not to provide enough detail due to her privacy to ask a question that anyone can answer specifically regarding that. The other part was asking if anyone had developed feelings, had an actual relationship (be it friend, lover or other) and what happened after, good and bad. There are a number of people who have understood that and answered that. And I have tried to clarify it further in some posts. It's fine if people wish to answer a little differently. I do appreciate those also because they are related. I only felt they didn't fully understand the question in some cases. And thanks for taking the time to ask.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

I'm not writing a term paper with citations, christ... why would I bother to read every post that carefully and make sure I got every detailed lined up for your personal situation, with no mistakes in it, if there is no money at the end of the rainbow for my effort?

If you are not writing a term paper why are your posts almost as long as one? I am sorry that I am being glib and going for the cheap laugh, but as someone who has been guilty of writing long posts myself I have found that writing shorter more concise posts makes it easier for people to read and for me to get my point across. While I agree with most of what you write, your math here is wrong.

What I wrote will be true for 999,999 people out of every 100,000, at least.

You probably just lost a zero so it became 100k instead of 1 million.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

@TemporarilyWhining It wasn't meant to offend you so I will just apologize.

No need to apologize, I was not offended! At points I was even joking a bit, hence the smiley faces!

If you are not writing a term paper why are your posts almost as long as one? I am sorry that I am being glib and going for the cheap laugh, but as someone who has been guilty of writing long posts myself I have found that writing shorter more concise posts makes it easier for people to read and for me to get my point across. While I agree with most of what you write, your math here is wrong.

You probably just lost a zero so it became 100k instead of 1 million.

Lol, this also does not offend me!

I think very fast, and type very fast. So it does not take me long at all to write VERY long posts. Also, as I alluded to elsewhere, I am very ill with a neurological disease. It, among other things, affects my ability to edit my writing (one of the symptoms that tanked my previous career when I got sick). It takes waaaaaay longer, and way more hard work, for me to edit what I'm saying down to a short post, than just to post the long one I think off the top of my head. That's why I say you have to pay me if you want edited posts, with cited replies that actually match up exactly with what somebody wrote, lol. It's a joke, but also true, I'm not going to put that much work when I feel sick into stuff like that. I do my best to contribute, and I think what I write is at least as good as the dim-witted typo-ridden replies the majority of the internet posts to online forums. And sometimes, they're even a little better than that low bar!

I don't worry myself with who reads my stuff. Having been an academic my whole life, I'm not going to start catering to people who get lost if they read more than a single Twitter paragraph now. Just because some people can't read or stay focused, does not mean the whole world needs to change for them. We are a diverse world. There are plenty of people who write 2-sentence posts to everything on the internet. There are precious few who have more to say. I have more to say. Anyone who finds it annoying, or overwhelming, is more than welcome to skip past me and check out the hundreds of short replies there are always going to be to any given topic. I won't apologize for who I am any more than anyone else should apologize for who they are. I don't intentionally mean to overwhelm, but you know, some of us are overwhelmed just as much by the short replies and spending our whole lives then trying to guess what the hell they mean because there are like 50 relevant details missing from what they're trying to say. I like not to leave anything out, so there is far less chance for miscommunication. I do wish I could edit for clarity though, and because I hate typos and mistakes, but I just have to be at peace with what the universe has brought me. And fortunately, there are always a few who tolerate my wordy self!

Hopefully people realize I mean well, and my intent overall is never to be mean-spirited. If people got that gist, then that's good with me, even if they didn't read the whole damn thing!

 

[BufordT]

@TemporarilyWhining internet communications can always be tricky and have misunderstandings. Thanks for letting me know that you weren't offended

 

[Phoenix4987]

This thread:

"Tell me that I have a chance with this cam girl."

"No."

"You all misunderstood everything and now I'm leaving."

Thanks for this. So many walls of text I just wanted a TL;DR with maybe some juicy stuff to read. But alas, not.