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eclipse76 said:MaggieRider said:
Hope he is aware that you have " tip standards" for your potential bf. If he is notified and both parts agree to continue this type of relationship I have no judgments. But if a guy is mislead into believing something different I believe it's wrong!
mynameisbob84 said:
I give you 20k bb! Deal? I buy dinner then get night stand free plz!
Kickaz said:
As I'm feeling generous, I'll give you 6 months exclusivity for $20k which an $8000 discount I wouldn't give to just anyone. So you should feel very special indeed, bb
Sevrin said:You got it.Kickaz said:
Best night stand ever!
Such fantastic wood working skills...
can someone make me an apothecary ...
mostly because I just like saying "I have an apothecary"
can someone make me an apothecary ...
mostly because I just like saying "I have an apothecary"
Kickaz said:eclipse76 said:MaggieRider said:
Hope he is aware that you have " tip standards" for your potential bf. If he is notified and both parts agree to continue this type of relationship I have no judgments. But if a guy is mislead into believing something different I believe it's wrong!
no lies. I dont lie, its much more fun to tell the truth. And I told him many times that all his "one and only" and "his name tattoo" must cost pretty much. But he still doing that with no much to oFfer in return.
In any other way I understand judgement. I wouldnt ask if i wasnt expecting that Girls and Guys. Thanks for any suggestion, good ar bad. I got to understand what to do with him. And its a first time for me any member is so close to meet me.
Also about
- i wouldnt call bf someone who is only here for holidays.Kickaz said:
Isabella_deL said:
Thank U Isabella.
Yes, sorry for my English, I am Russian. And English is my 3rd tongue. So sometimes I mix my thinking between all the languages. But I am glad you get my point correctly.
Well more about situation - he is not young as 20-30s .And is not a case of misleading him that it could be real love.
Its just he is one of my regulars and good one, but he want to take is off-line for his holidays and have me as "his only", and why I wrote "not tipping well enough" because MFC is my job, and this job covers my rent, bills, gasoline etc. And being "his only" will not cover it. All tho I dont wanna loose him as a good friend and good tipper, but I also dont wanna lose the rest of MFC instead, nor becoming a private escort for his holiday ideas (No fens for those girls, but its not my thing)
So the real question is - how to keep a member on-line having fun, but keep him out of my own off-line life?
Stop entertaining the idea that if he tips enough that he can meet you. Just tell him "no matter how much you tip, we won't meet".MaggieRider said:
And that's that.
I registered just to reply to this thread lol.
I have been scammed 2 times on mfc (that I know of :shock: )
The first time was by an American model and did not really involve money ... not much anyway. She approached me first for off-mfc chats ... skype, ym, phone. Seemed like I had found something that I was not looking for (honest!). I only tipped her about 2000 tokens and send her 1 $100 gift card ... no cash. So I felt I was being smart. Long story short, 3 months went by and I learned she was doing the exact same thing to 2 other guys (I love you, can I visit you, blah blah blah), and then began dating a member (who turned out to be married and cheating on his wife with 3 women in total ... karma!). So the money did not really matter. It was the mindfuck that hurt the most there.
The second time was all cash. And for me it was not about love (I swear!). I just felt bad for this girl. She said she was about to be evicted with her young son, had nowhere to go, no food, studio boss was gonna fire her, etc. I tipped 4000 tokens a day to help her out for a week or so, and then I went online researching organizations and churches in her city that could help her. When I provided this info to her, she replied "I won't take charity. That's for really low people. I won't beg." Well that was enough for me. I was done. And turns out she had no boss, had family and friends that do help her, and, the kicker, she "works" on mfc 4-5 days a month, always with "Heeeeelllllpppppp meeeeeeeeee!!" or "life sucks" in her topic, and getting mad at guys for not tipping for her staring at the cam.
After typing all that, I forgot my point. Oh well, I guess it's that we can all get scammed, even when we least expect it, and there are different kinds of scams.
PS: Thanks to the "are you a bot?" verification on registration here, I now know that a keyboard does not hold water. Me so clever!
I have been scammed 2 times on mfc (that I know of :shock: )
The first time was by an American model and did not really involve money ... not much anyway. She approached me first for off-mfc chats ... skype, ym, phone. Seemed like I had found something that I was not looking for (honest!). I only tipped her about 2000 tokens and send her 1 $100 gift card ... no cash. So I felt I was being smart. Long story short, 3 months went by and I learned she was doing the exact same thing to 2 other guys (I love you, can I visit you, blah blah blah), and then began dating a member (who turned out to be married and cheating on his wife with 3 women in total ... karma!). So the money did not really matter. It was the mindfuck that hurt the most there.
The second time was all cash. And for me it was not about love (I swear!). I just felt bad for this girl. She said she was about to be evicted with her young son, had nowhere to go, no food, studio boss was gonna fire her, etc. I tipped 4000 tokens a day to help her out for a week or so, and then I went online researching organizations and churches in her city that could help her. When I provided this info to her, she replied "I won't take charity. That's for really low people. I won't beg." Well that was enough for me. I was done. And turns out she had no boss, had family and friends that do help her, and, the kicker, she "works" on mfc 4-5 days a month, always with "Heeeeelllllpppppp meeeeeeeeee!!" or "life sucks" in her topic, and getting mad at guys for not tipping for her staring at the cam.
After typing all that, I forgot my point. Oh well, I guess it's that we can all get scammed, even when we least expect it, and there are different kinds of scams.
PS: Thanks to the "are you a bot?" verification on registration here, I now know that a keyboard does not hold water. Me so clever!
This is in reply to the original poster. I too am going through something like this. I don't consider myself a stupid man, just a lonely one.
A little about my self. I am 53 years old and have been married for 27 years. I have not been happy in my marriage for a long time, my wife is cold. Hardly any affection at all. Yeah I know you are all thinking that after 27 years there must be something. And you are also thinking that "we've heard that one before too". And no it is not just about sex, it is all the other things that go along with a loving relationship, kissing hugs, holding hands cuddling on the couch, sweet loving words. I stay because well I don't really have anything else. So after so many years of this I decided to go online. Now the cam site I go to is not the one you guys talk about. I wont talk about that or tell you the girls online or real name except to say she is Romanian and has a son.
This started about two years ago. I am fully aware of what these site are, and what they are not. I got online just to talk and have a little affection even if it was paid for. I visited two girls before this one. one was very upfront about what she wanted. The other was a little different, but I realized right off the bat that she just wanted money. Even though she said she was in love with me.
But the last one, wow. From the moment we started talking I could tell I was attracted to her. She is 27, much younger than I but seemed to be so much more mature. Yes at first we did have sex PVTs, but then after two or three they turned into just talking. She would always tell me "I don't know why but I like you so much". At first we never used the L word. But after a while we both started using the L word. She would say "I love you more than you know". The more we talked the deeper I fell. I tried to tell my self that hey she is a cam model, this is their job to make guys like them. But she gave me her real name, send me her address and never asked for anything. I would send her some stuff flowers and presents. she would always get a little upset that I spend money on her, she know the situation I am in. Knows about my family. She would really get upset if I spent money on cams with her.
Then we started talking via e-mail, Skype and messenger. By this time she had my heart, more so than my wife ever did. she would say such wonderful loving things that would just make my day. She told me she wanted to meet me. And I wanted to meet her. We would talk on Skype maybe three for four times a week. I would call her on the phone and we would talk. She only asked for money twice n the 2 years we talked. One when she was severely penalized for something a customer said in Freechat. I sent her I think $200. The second time was when she was having a really hard time. She asked for a loan of $1056. I sent, even though I couldn't afford it I sent.
Then around Christmas time things started to change. No longer were we talking as much. She said she couldn't answer my calls because of a custody battle she was having with her son's father. then the Skype talks dwindled to maybe once a month. I would tell her or ask her if she was tired of talking to me. She would reply "Never I would talk to you everyday if I could". But this continued, until one day I had to get a new phone and installed Skype on this and notice a second number for her Skype account. One number was the one I always used. The other number I think was from the Customer that caused her so much trouble. I called that other number and I think she answered. At least is sounded like her with our pet phrase. But then it was handed over to a guy and he said There is not one here by that name.
We had a big fight about this and she denied that it was her number and that I kept the number from the other customer. So I gave her the benefit of the doubt and tried to remove the number. Nothing would work. I deleted my phone and my computer and rebuilt both. Added Skype and there was that number again. The difference is that the number she gave me was not there only this phantom number. so I called Skype thinking that I had done something wrong and they confirmed that this was a number in her profile. That I could not delete it because it was the number she used to set-up her profile.
So I know I have been lied to. I called that number again from a different phone and yes this time I heart her say hello. After two years I would recognize her voice anyware. Still she denies calling me crazy. What's worse other things are falling into place. She wanted to meet me so I told her that I am going on a business trip to Las Vegas and I would love to fly her there. She said she wanted too. So I purchased a ticket (I didn't send her the money but purchased it myself in her name) and purchase a show too. Then a week before the trip she informs me that her Visa was denied. So I called the US consult in Romania asking if there was something I could do. Maybe vouch for her. They told me that no one with that name or birthdate ever applied. They said that they would have a record and it would not have been misplaced. So I talked with her and she said she had proof and would send me. Nothing was sent. this was before the whole second number thing so I was willing to believe her. I have developed a friendship with a collogue of hers, not a close friend of hers. She tells me that the girls said to her " how could he think a 27 year old would be with a 53 years old. How can I believe anything she ever told me? After everything why not just be upfront and tell me that yes I have another number but I can't use it for you? Or no I cant meet you?
I have since stopped talking to her and deleted my account on the site. But I am in such pain and I wonder what I did wrong. How could somebody take my heart like that and just rip it to pieces? Still I am such an foolish old man that I wonder if I am wrong. If I have not totally misunderstood everything. I miss her and I miss the feeling I felt. I keep checking in to make sure she is aright. I want to talk to her and beg for forgiveness.
I still love her so much but I hurt so bad. How could she have done that? How could she have pretended all that for 2 years????? I don't know why I'm writing this, there is really nothing anybody can do. Maybe other guys will read this and think twice. Nothing is real at cam sites, NOTHING. I'm not even sure it was about the money. She never really asked to send much. I am so miserable and sad.
A little about my self. I am 53 years old and have been married for 27 years. I have not been happy in my marriage for a long time, my wife is cold. Hardly any affection at all. Yeah I know you are all thinking that after 27 years there must be something. And you are also thinking that "we've heard that one before too". And no it is not just about sex, it is all the other things that go along with a loving relationship, kissing hugs, holding hands cuddling on the couch, sweet loving words. I stay because well I don't really have anything else. So after so many years of this I decided to go online. Now the cam site I go to is not the one you guys talk about. I wont talk about that or tell you the girls online or real name except to say she is Romanian and has a son.
This started about two years ago. I am fully aware of what these site are, and what they are not. I got online just to talk and have a little affection even if it was paid for. I visited two girls before this one. one was very upfront about what she wanted. The other was a little different, but I realized right off the bat that she just wanted money. Even though she said she was in love with me.
But the last one, wow. From the moment we started talking I could tell I was attracted to her. She is 27, much younger than I but seemed to be so much more mature. Yes at first we did have sex PVTs, but then after two or three they turned into just talking. She would always tell me "I don't know why but I like you so much". At first we never used the L word. But after a while we both started using the L word. She would say "I love you more than you know". The more we talked the deeper I fell. I tried to tell my self that hey she is a cam model, this is their job to make guys like them. But she gave me her real name, send me her address and never asked for anything. I would send her some stuff flowers and presents. she would always get a little upset that I spend money on her, she know the situation I am in. Knows about my family. She would really get upset if I spent money on cams with her.
Then we started talking via e-mail, Skype and messenger. By this time she had my heart, more so than my wife ever did. she would say such wonderful loving things that would just make my day. She told me she wanted to meet me. And I wanted to meet her. We would talk on Skype maybe three for four times a week. I would call her on the phone and we would talk. She only asked for money twice n the 2 years we talked. One when she was severely penalized for something a customer said in Freechat. I sent her I think $200. The second time was when she was having a really hard time. She asked for a loan of $1056. I sent, even though I couldn't afford it I sent.
Then around Christmas time things started to change. No longer were we talking as much. She said she couldn't answer my calls because of a custody battle she was having with her son's father. then the Skype talks dwindled to maybe once a month. I would tell her or ask her if she was tired of talking to me. She would reply "Never I would talk to you everyday if I could". But this continued, until one day I had to get a new phone and installed Skype on this and notice a second number for her Skype account. One number was the one I always used. The other number I think was from the Customer that caused her so much trouble. I called that other number and I think she answered. At least is sounded like her with our pet phrase. But then it was handed over to a guy and he said There is not one here by that name.
We had a big fight about this and she denied that it was her number and that I kept the number from the other customer. So I gave her the benefit of the doubt and tried to remove the number. Nothing would work. I deleted my phone and my computer and rebuilt both. Added Skype and there was that number again. The difference is that the number she gave me was not there only this phantom number. so I called Skype thinking that I had done something wrong and they confirmed that this was a number in her profile. That I could not delete it because it was the number she used to set-up her profile.
So I know I have been lied to. I called that number again from a different phone and yes this time I heart her say hello. After two years I would recognize her voice anyware. Still she denies calling me crazy. What's worse other things are falling into place. She wanted to meet me so I told her that I am going on a business trip to Las Vegas and I would love to fly her there. She said she wanted too. So I purchased a ticket (I didn't send her the money but purchased it myself in her name) and purchase a show too. Then a week before the trip she informs me that her Visa was denied. So I called the US consult in Romania asking if there was something I could do. Maybe vouch for her. They told me that no one with that name or birthdate ever applied. They said that they would have a record and it would not have been misplaced. So I talked with her and she said she had proof and would send me. Nothing was sent. this was before the whole second number thing so I was willing to believe her. I have developed a friendship with a collogue of hers, not a close friend of hers. She tells me that the girls said to her " how could he think a 27 year old would be with a 53 years old. How can I believe anything she ever told me? After everything why not just be upfront and tell me that yes I have another number but I can't use it for you? Or no I cant meet you?
I have since stopped talking to her and deleted my account on the site. But I am in such pain and I wonder what I did wrong. How could somebody take my heart like that and just rip it to pieces? Still I am such an foolish old man that I wonder if I am wrong. If I have not totally misunderstood everything. I miss her and I miss the feeling I felt. I keep checking in to make sure she is aright. I want to talk to her and beg for forgiveness.
I still love her so much but I hurt so bad. How could she have done that? How could she have pretended all that for 2 years????? I don't know why I'm writing this, there is really nothing anybody can do. Maybe other guys will read this and think twice. Nothing is real at cam sites, NOTHING. I'm not even sure it was about the money. She never really asked to send much. I am so miserable and sad.
Holy crap! You poor guys! I've never heard horror stories like this. I mean I've heard guys getting scammed out of a video or a skype session. But thousands of dollars?!?!? That is crazy, and awful that someone would do that. I'm actually somewhat surprised techniques like this would work. I think its kinda a invisible rule to be as positive on cam as possible. When I was camming, and a subject would come up that I would feel sour about, if I showed the slightest bit of negativity. BOOM! 10-25 people would leave instantly like I had slimy booger coming out of my nose ahahaha. I wouldn't like to watch someone complain about there money problems. Just keep in mind, that if a model does this. She is more then likely trying to manipulate you to pity her. You pity her, you give her money, she gives you affection for finances. You never win in this situation. Come to a cam site to relax! Don't be worrying about other peoples bullshit. Models are here to entertain you and make your shit day at the office a better one! That is all we are here for!
Another thing about the date raffles. I had some type of feeling that alot of the girls who throw these are escorting when they do the meet up. These type of raffles should be banned from mfc. Your picking some random person to go meet up with? That is completely dangerous. It is a nice idea to make money. But super super dangerous! Even though you may meet in a public space. It takes five minutes to go on a walk and for the person your meeting to push you in a alley and do terrible things to you. As far as I'm aware this has not happened hopefully. But it easily can happen and no one should meet a random who bought a raffle ticket anywhere at any time.
Another thing about the date raffles. I had some type of feeling that alot of the girls who throw these are escorting when they do the meet up. These type of raffles should be banned from mfc. Your picking some random person to go meet up with? That is completely dangerous. It is a nice idea to make money. But super super dangerous! Even though you may meet in a public space. It takes five minutes to go on a walk and for the person your meeting to push you in a alley and do terrible things to you. As far as I'm aware this has not happened hopefully. But it easily can happen and no one should meet a random who bought a raffle ticket anywhere at any time.
I have a pretty simple rule when it comes to camming, but it's one that's served me well and I think, one that will continue to serve me well. If/when a model tells me she loves me and asks me to send her a thousand dollars, that's my cue to hit the 'ignore' button and never ever go back to her room again :?
sad sad man said:
Gonna tell you what my friend told me when this happened to me (as I said it a previous post I got played twice).
Move on. Now. Forget her. Block her, ignore her, delete her phone, email, skype. Make it so you cannot contact her even when you are tempted. And when she contacts you (and she will), ignore her. Do not pick up the phone or reply to emails. She will apologize and try to bring you back in. Do not fall for it.
The feelings you shared were not real. She played you. It's hard to accept, but you have to. It's embarrassing as hell, but admit it happened and let it go. And never, never, never fall for it again. If a model wants money, tip her
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This shit makes me so mad.
Don't toy with peoples hearts! That's not just bad business, it's down right Evil. I'll say it makes you a bad person. There is NO excuse.
I'm really sorry that happened to you Sad Man.
53 is so far from an old man, maybe you feel like that because your bored but you are NOT too old to live and enjoy life! But, if you expect honesty you should probably try being honest first.
Leave your wife so you both can be happier and THEN join an actual dating site or start going out and meeting people. People who aren't actively working where you can at least feel remotely safe that money is not the primary objective. Dishonesty and lies will only lead to more dishonesty and lies coming back to haunt you, I'm not saying you deserved it but you can handle yourself better next time and maybe the outcome will bring you light and happiness?
I wish you the best. Good luck and don't be afraid to do what makes you happy... you only live once man, don't waste it in a miserable marriage.
Don't toy with peoples hearts! That's not just bad business, it's down right Evil. I'll say it makes you a bad person. There is NO excuse.
I'm really sorry that happened to you Sad Man.
53 is so far from an old man, maybe you feel like that because your bored but you are NOT too old to live and enjoy life! But, if you expect honesty you should probably try being honest first.
Leave your wife so you both can be happier and THEN join an actual dating site or start going out and meeting people. People who aren't actively working where you can at least feel remotely safe that money is not the primary objective. Dishonesty and lies will only lead to more dishonesty and lies coming back to haunt you, I'm not saying you deserved it but you can handle yourself better next time and maybe the outcome will bring you light and happiness?
I wish you the best. Good luck and don't be afraid to do what makes you happy... you only live once man, don't waste it in a miserable marriage.
"I am 53 years old and have been married for 27 years. I have not been happy in my marriage for a long time, my wife is cold. Hardly any affection at all."
SO.....you saying you are married and wanted a relationship with another woman? Woman who works as model on a cam site? RIGHT.
I guess if you dont offer much you wont get much. From any woman.
SO.....you saying you are married and wanted a relationship with another woman? Woman who works as model on a cam site? RIGHT.
I guess if you dont offer much you wont get much. From any woman.
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That is just what he said she asked for directly, not the time spent in privates or tipping.Fay_Galore said:
Pure_emotion said:
I'm not here to justify my actions I know I'm a shit. And yes I probably should leave. I'm not going to go into 27 years and what that entailed.
As I said I was not looking for "The Real thing" on site. It just seemed to happen, or so I thought.
JoleneBrody said:
I don't know...
"She would really get upset if I spent money on cams with her.
Then we started talking via e-mail, Skype and messenger. By this time she had my heart, more so than my wife ever did. she would say such wonderful loving things that would just make my day. She told me she wanted to meet me. And I wanted to meet her. We would talk on Skype maybe three for four times a week. I would call her on the phone and we would talk. She only asked for money twice n the 2 years we talked."
mister sad, sad man, did you pay for all those skype sessions? did you tip her (royally) when you were in her room while she was camming?
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No as to Skype that was just Skype not paid. I did take her PVT and sent her tips. I did send her gifts, earrings, flowers, a nice warm coat, camera, laptop when hers broke, a ring.
I don't know how much I spend on her in PVT and tips.
sad sad man said:
oh yes, well, then yes, I guess I'm afraid it does seem it was about the money and gifts
Fay_Galore said:sad sad man said:
oh yes, well, then yes, I guess I'm afraid it does seem it was about the money and gifts
I want to be clear she did not ask for the gifts. I wanted to send them. And yes even thought I feel very hurt I am still trying to justify. I know you girls probably hear this from guys all the time. And yes I know that I should have left my wife a long time ago, but it is often not that simple. Especially when you have kids and bills and the like to worry about. Again I am not trying to justify any of my actions. Just trying to figure out if I made a mistake and should run back to her and make a life with her or try and repair my marriage as much as I can. I mean I have lived with the state of things for 27 years.
And thank you all for responding and listening to my :violin:
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She clearly doesn't want you, whether it be anymore or ever. Don't waste your life chasing another woman who makes you feel less than deserving. Maybe she was kind of into you and just lost interest over time, that happens. Maybe she just strung you along for the gifts and money she knew you would spend... however it may be it sounds like it's ended pretty clearly. What you do with your life is really none of any of our concerns but I would advise at least not wasting any more of your precious ticking time bomb known as life on her.sad sad man said:
This sounds pretty textbook emotional manipulation, I could be wrong... but I kind of doubt it.
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^What Jolene said. You already have your doubts, why continue something that makes you not only doubt her, the relationship, but yourself and your own real life.
Plus you already said you don't want to divorce your wife, how are you planning to be with this girl that's miles away from you, even if go chose her?
I would really recommend for you to move on and also cut all ties with her.
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Off topic but I feel this needed a response.
Most girls that do date raffles are smart about all this. Background checks, they send ID pictures to a friend, they meet in a restaurant/whatever, do not leave with their date, etc. You're really not giving us any credit.
Well that's sort of insulting. :/ It may happen but it's rare. I know I've never had sex on a raffle date.SilentOne said:
Most girls that do date raffles are smart about all this. Background checks, they send ID pictures to a friend, they meet in a restaurant/whatever, do not leave with their date, etc. You're really not giving us any credit.
Camming is also dangerous. Many models have been stalked in person. Should that, too, be illegal?SexyStephXS said:
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