Game of Thrones: Season Quatro

[SatanJonez]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

the cersei/jaime sex happened in the book,
the main difference was that the showrunners changed it from consensual sex, to rape

and on a similar note
i'm not sure how much more of this i can take
more departures from the books are annoying the hell out of me ( Bran and co. stopping/getting caught at crasters never happened)
how much more before we have series that only has characters with the same names as the books

I was talking to someone about this the other day because he's read all the books that are currently out and I just started the first.. The first season + first book are pretty dead on. Apparently not so much for where the show is now.

I'm one of those assholes who likes it when something follow the original media pretty closely though. :dontknow:

 

[Red7227]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

the cersei/jaime sex happened in the book,
the main difference was that the showrunners changed it from consensual sex, to rape

and on a similar note
i'm not sure how much more of this i can take
more departures from the books are annoying the hell out of me ( Bran and co. stopping/getting caught at crasters never happened)
how much more before we have series that only has characters with the same names as the books

I was talking to someone about this the other day because he's read all the books that are currently out and I just started the first.. The first season + first book are pretty dead on. Apparently not so much for where the show is now.

I'm one of those assholes who likes it when something follow the original media pretty closely though. :dontknow:

The deviation is increasing. The Books are going to make it really hard for a Series to follow. There are another three character threads added (at least) and a lot of the book actions are either boring or really depressing. I will see how this series plays out. At the moment its not realyly grabbing me, but that is mostly due to havign read beyond this bit in the books.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

All in all I've felt disappointed after watching each episode. I've still enjoyed them but they've been missing something. They do this every season, they'll start not so good and then will go big at the end. I'm really hoping the end will be awesome.

At the moment. When I see gifs from a new GoT episode turn up, i know that there must also be a new Ophan Black episode out. That show never disappoints, thought its getting a bit disturbing.

Oh my god this so much! I haven't seen any gifs but I was thinking the other day how when I watch an episode of orphan black I'm feeling excited and interested at all moments. It's not just that I'm enjoying watching it, I'm engaged and loving watching it while in game of thrones I've just been liking it and then feel like I've missed something.

 

[Red7227]

I give up. I've no idea what the script writers think they are doing. They are departing significantly from the book in pointless directions. I how the people who have not read the books enjoy the show because it is now too irritating to watch the really good writing converted into a shite and predictable script.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I give up. I've no idea what the script writers think they are doing. They are departing significantly from the book in pointless directions. I how the people who have not read the books enjoy the show because it is now too irritating to watch the really good writing converted into a shite and predictable script.

Yup pretty much. I mean I can understand why the 4th book (the next season) wouldn't be that interesting as not all that much happens in the 4th book. The 3rd book, especially the 2nd half of the 3rd book is incredible though! They missed out on loads of amazing scenes from the first half of the book in the last season, great battles, great sex scenes, generally loads of amazing spoilers and cool conversations. Both of these books as far as I can remember were action action the entire way through, I could barely stop reading them. I don't really understand why they're missing out on all of these amazing scenes and storylines to fit a load of not that interesting talk into the mix.

I think if you haven't read the books then it's probably a lot more enjoyable as you're still getting little spoilers and wondering what's going to happen, but for those who've read the books you can only enjoy the action being presented on the screen, which doesn't seem to be very much at the moment. The series is somehow losing its magic.

I think game of thrones the tv series seems to be one of those that's amazing if you watch all in one big go on a hangover day rather than having to wait all week for another episode.

 

[Kunra9]

It's been awhile since I've read the books, so some things have slipped my memory, but some things have been glaring departures from the book.

I did enjoy this last episode though. Tyrion's trial was very entertaining.

 

[Anonymous]

Haven't read the books but this pretty much sums up that last episode:

 

[Red7227]

It's been awhile since I've read the books, so some things have slipped my memory, but some things have been glaring departures from the book.

I did enjoy this last episode though. Tyrion's trial was very entertaining.

Given what is coming its almost trivial though. They seem to be wasting a lot of time in a 10 episode series on stuff that was very minor in the book.

 

[Kunra9]

I'm going to make predictions on how the next few episodes will go.

Very very very major spoilers for those who have not read the books.
Please don't read these spoilers below unless you have read the books.

Spoiler

Next episode ends with Lysa going out the moon door. Episode 8 Oberyn gets his face caved in. Episode 9, Shae goes down and episode ends with Tywin shitting himself. Episode 10 ends with Lady Stoneheart

 

[Rose]

I'm going to make predictions on how the next few episodes will go.

Very very very major spoilers for those who have not read the books.
Please don't read these spoilers below unless you have read the books.

Spoiler

Next episode ends with Lysa going out the moon door. Episode 8 Oberyn gets his face caved in. Episode 9, Shae goes down and episode ends with Tywin shitting himself. Episode 10 ends with Lady Stoneheart

You said not to read them, but that's practically telling me to. I have a problem with NEEDING spoilers. Thank you! Now I can *patiently* await the new episodes without getting all twitchy.

I miss reading!!! Ahh!

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I thought the last episode was very good with the trail. It was just so much more entertaining to watch. The beginning with Asha (or Kiara or whatever they're calling her in the series) coming to rescue Theon was again something that didn't happen in the books, but I guess it was a bit of action? Except she got scared away by a few hounds... What was that about? I think they're spending too much time on Theon's character. I really like Ramsay Snow, I loved the actor in misfits too so I'm not completely opposed to having him in more, but Theon is such a shit boring character. Even in the books there's too much of him and there's barely any of him at this point.

They're also making Cersei a lot nicer to Margery in the series. I know it's probably all supposed to be a front, but half the thing with Cersei is that she really starts losing the plot at this point- Not major spoiler but a bit that they haven't mentioned so far in the series-

Spoiler

especially against Margery because of the prophecy that another Queen will take everything she loves, which is blatently Daneary's instead of Margery

 

[Red7227]

I'm going to make predictions on how the next few episodes will go.

Very very very major spoilers for those who have not read the books.
Please don't read these spoilers below unless you have read the books.

Spoiler

Next episode ends with Lysa going out the moon door. Episode 8 Oberyn gets his face caved in. Episode 9, Shae goes down and episode ends with Tywin shitting himself. Episode 10 ends with Lady Stoneheart

You said not to read them, but that's practically telling me to. I have a problem with NEEDING spoilers. Thank you! Now I can *patiently* await the new episodes without getting all twitchy.

I miss reading!!! Ahh!

There are so many departures from what is in the book that who knows if that is going to happen. There is also Bran and the Wildlings, a couple other plots and a few new characters. I'm half inclinded to re-read the books and skip the series.

 

[Rose]

I'm going to make predictions on how the next few episodes will go.

Very very very major spoilers for those who have not read the books.
Please don't read these spoilers below unless you have read the books.

Spoiler

Next episode ends with Lysa going out the moon door. Episode 8 Oberyn gets his face caved in. Episode 9, Shae goes down and episode ends with Tywin shitting himself. Episode 10 ends with Lady Stoneheart

You said not to read them, but that's practically telling me to. I have a problem with NEEDING spoilers. Thank you! Now I can *patiently* await the new episodes without getting all twitchy.

I miss reading!!! Ahh!

There are so many departures from what is in the book that who knows if that is going to happen. There is also Bran and the Wildlings, a couple other plots and a few new characters. I'm half inclinded to re-read the books and skip the series.

I'd love the read the books, have always preferred reading over any kind of tv watching, but I lack the time and sleep these days. I'm making do with movies in 10 minute segments. :lol:

 

[mynameisbob84]

At this point, I'm really glad I haven't read the books. Not only do I not know what's coming next (save for spoilers) but I'm able to watch and enjoy each episode on its own terms without constantly assessing what the show is doing that the books didn't, what the books did that the show hasn't, what the books did differently, what the books did better, how the show is being paced in relation to the books, and so on and so forth.

Judged purely on its own merits, I'm loving this season (and the series in general).

 

[Kradek]

I read the books the show is covering 15 years ago or whatever when they came out originally (book one was published in 1996, book 3 in 2000). I remember the high points, but not the niggly details. I'm really not bothered at all with the shows relatively minor deviations from the overall story line. I suppose if I had read them more recently I might be, but they are two different mediums. All the debate now reminds me of the debate over Peter Jackson's LOTR movies. In the end, I like the books and like the movies so I don't really care.

 

[eyeteach]

At this point, I'm really glad I haven't read the books. Not only do I not know what's coming next (save for spoilers) but I'm able to watch and enjoy each episode on its own terms without constantly assessing what the show is doing that the books didn't, what the books did that the show hasn't, what the books did differently, what the books did better, how the show is being paced in relation to the books, and so on and so forth.

Judged purely on its own merits, I'm loving this season (and the series in general).

I haven't read the books either and I agree with every point made. This last episode really showed that although Tyrion may be a dwarf, he's more of a man than anyone else in Kings Landing.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I read the books the show is covering 15 years ago or whatever when they came out originally (book one was published in 1996, book 3 in 2000). I remember the high points, but not the niggly details. I'm really not bothered at all with the shows relatively minor deviations from the overall story line. I suppose if I had read them more recently I might be, but they are two different mediums. All the debate now reminds me of the debate over Peter Jackson's LOTR movies. In the end, I like the books and like the movies so I don't really care.

Same here. I've come to peace with the fact there has never been a movie/show that followed the book exactly. Can't be done since they are two completely different mediums. So I just enjoy each for what they have to offer without expecting them to follow along.

 

[Red7227]

And for those of you wondering about an as yet to appear character who will become important in the next couple of episodes. Lena Headly is 5'5" (or 1.66 m)

 

[Falke]

And for those of you wondering about an as yet to appear character who will become important in the next couple of episodes. Lena Headly is 5'5" (or 1.66 m)

I am really excited for and dreading that character's return. The actor fits the role so much better than the tall, very skinny "Beanpole that Rides" from Season 2.

 

[Violet October]

I thought the last episode was very good with the trail. It was just so much more entertaining to watch. The beginning with Asha (or Kiara or whatever they're calling her in the series) coming to rescue Theon was again something that didn't happen in the books, but I guess it was a bit of action? Except she got scared away by a few hounds... What was that about? I think they're spending too much time on Theon's character. I really like Ramsay Snow, I loved the actor in misfits too so I'm not completely opposed to having him in more, but Theon is such a shit boring character. Even in the books there's too much of him and there's barely any of him at this point.
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I LOVED that scene. It makes her indifference to him later in the books make perfect sense, and shows exactly how far Theon has falln from BEING Theon to "reek."

All of these changes in the show are making me giddy as fuck. My husband and I are both hard core Ni love with every change. They're all perfect and make total sense to us. Remember, GRRM has a pretty big hand in helping with the show, they're not doing anything that's pissing me off. Hell, he even writes an episode every season.


I think people who think movies/tv shows should follow books exactly are silly.


Also, on your point about Cersei, her and Tywin ihad a conversation in the episode before about how bad they need the Tyrell's as allies because of their money issues. She's being as nice as humanly possible for now so that can happen. She DOES later try to find a reason for their marriage to not be legit if you remember. And since it's a legal reason, it makes it seem like it's n a direct attack on her from the Lannisters. So it works out perfectly.

 

[Always_Tim]

I thought the last episode was very good with the trail. It was just so much more entertaining to watch. The beginning with Asha (or Kiara or whatever they're calling her in the series) coming to rescue Theon was again something that didn't happen in the books, but I guess it was a bit of action? Except she got scared away by a few hounds... What was that about? I think they're spending too much time on Theon's character. I really like Ramsay Snow, I loved the actor in misfits too so I'm not completely opposed to having him in more, but Theon is such a shit boring character. Even in the books there's too much of him and there's barely any of him at this point.

They call her Yara on the show. (To avoid confusion with Osha.) But apparently she's still "Asha" in some of the foreign language dubs.

They need to give characters something to do or risk losing the actors. The show has had enough random recasting as it is.

 

[SatanJonez]

I was happy to see the new actor who's playing the Mountain in action. Scary looking dude for sure. And yay for moon doors. I figure Little Finger has some bad stuff in the works, but at least that crazy lady can stop corrupting everything around.

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Not looking forward to next week's episode since I LOVE Oberyn. At least he takes the fucker down in turn or so goes the books.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I never expect series's to follow exactly how a book is, it'd be almost impossible to, but I think it's a shame when they cut some of the really lovely parts out of the series that were in the book and add not so interesting things into the series. Some of the stuff I can understand them changing, like Tyrions relationship with Shae, and Tywin being a whole load nicer and more charismatic than in the books. I also understand cutting certain parts out. But stuff like adding that whole thing with Jon going to Crasters just to get his arse kicked? I know they're trying to save all the proper action for the end of the series but there's so much action in this book I don't really see why they felt the need to hold back and then cram it all in at the end.

Last episode again was good, not much action happened but it had the witty Game of Thrones charm and humour which some of the earlier episodes this season were lacking. I'm definitely now feeling a lot more engaged with the season and am excited to see the rest.

Something that's nice about changing the seasons from the book is that the books remain much more interesting to read. The first season was almost identical to the first book. When I started reading the books I'd already watched the first two seasons, because the first season was so similar the first book was kind of boring to read, while the second second was amazing, largely because of all the interesting differences.

All the debate now reminds me of the debate over Peter Jackson's LOTR movies.

I used to feel like they missed out loads of my favourite parts in the LOTR films... Until I watched the extended versions! I understand why they cut and trimmed it for the main film but the extended versions have all the magic and adventure I can remember from the books. They felt less rushed. Definitely worth a watch. Was like watching different films!

 

[Crumb]

today i found @angrygotfan and today I learn I am not alone

 

[goldenaye666]

I like that the GOT TV show is only based on the books, and not exactly the same. I look forward to seeing what events they will show and what parts will be different from the books. Especially like when a character who just left and was never heard of again in the books, is shown being killed in the TV show and you get some closure.

 

[Kunra9]

splat

 

[goldenaye666]

Spoiler alert if you click it, but here's an animated gif from the biggest moment in tonight's episode. http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blog ... s-Eyes.gif

 

[EdgarAllenWhoa]

The fight between Prince Oberyn and The Mountain really came to a.....HEAD :dance:

Well that happened....yikes what a way to go
I liked Oberyn too bad he had caught "monologging".

If your going to kill...kill...don't talk

 

[eyeteach]

Wow...like a melon. :shock:

 

[mynameisbob84]

That was fucked up