Game of Thrones: Season Quatro

[HiGirlsRHot]

I looked it up and it did say that there were some rumoured references about the Viper so I definitely missed those. I'm still not keen on it being made such a big deal, it just seems a bit off subject. I watched the first season before reading the books so I knew Renly was gay from the beginning, you're right, they didn't put as much in. The first few books were definitely less sexual than the series, which is funny because they made the 3rd season less sexual when that book actually has quite a bit of action in it. I was very surprised that they didn't jump on board with Daenary's being fingered by her handmaiden.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the actress who plays Daenarys refused to do some scenes that were planned as she felt they were too gratuitous. So that could well be the scene in question.

Hustler's porn parody "Ain't Game of Thrones" prominently features Daenerys (Playmate Spencer Scott) getting fingered (and more) by her handmaiden.. Which is evidently as close as we are going to get to the scene.
According to this article Emilia Clark's nude scene are behind us. http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...nerys-nudity-emilia-clarke-khaleesi-naked.htm

I don't agree that Daenary's were that gratuitous, her sexuality was a big part of her charisma in the book.

 

[Red7227]

 

[eclipse76]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

 

[EdgarAllenWhoa]

Some people are freaking out about the Walker Kings showing themselves saying its some kind of spoiler. I thought it was pretty fantastic seeing those characters...I thought the white walkers just ate the babies, goes to show you huh?

I have not read the books because I don't want to wreck the fun of the series sounds odd...save the series by avoiding the books. But I like the series so much I don't want to ruin it for myself by reading ahead. I like things to be remain shocking for me.

I imagine that the books are so loaded with stuff that changes have to be made for a viewing audience and so changes are going to have to happen.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm actually reaaallllyyyy OK with them turning the babies into them. I was really scared there would be a very graphic baby murder scene.

 

[Crumb]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

the cersei/jaime sex happened in the book,
the main difference was that the showrunners changed it from consensual sex, to rape

and on a similar note
i'm not sure how much more of this i can take
more departures from the books are annoying the hell out of me ( Bran and co. stopping/getting caught at crasters never happened)
how much more before we have series that only has characters with the same names as the books

 

[Red7227]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

It was in the book, just in a different spot, and it was mostly non-cosentual. This is basically the writers breakign down Cerci for later in the story. Without 200 pages of back story its hard to see how Cerci goes from from mostly togather Regent to batshit isane nutter.

 

[Red7227]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

the cersei/jaime sex happened in the book,
the main difference was that the showrunners changed it from consensual sex, to rape

and on a similar note
i'm not sure how much more of this i can take
more departures from the books are annoying the hell out of me ( Bran and co. stopping/getting caught at crasters never happened)
how much more before we have series that only has characters with the same names as the books

There is a lot of consilidation of the story paths going on because maintaining 8 different threads is ridiculous and beyond any reasonable budget - and the tiny minds of the audience. Bran needs a major exposition of what the fuck he is doing and Jon is the obvious candidate. Loch is there to kill Jon him so that is going to be part of the story. They have also changed how the information from the wall came to Stanis and how the Iron bank is getting involved in the plot. The books are huge and and this much change is to be expected. It will get a lot worse in the next series.

 

[bawksy]

more departures from the books are annoying the hell out of me

This is why I am happy I never read the books. I'm glad I never have to be disappointed about what the show's producers did or didn't do relative to the books. I just get to enjoy the show for what it is: a great show.

 

[EdgarAllenWhoa]

You know I'm kind of happy

People who read the books seem to be stressing out about the Series.

Folks who are stressing about the series not matching or being different from book.
Let me just say the series is REALLY good... people are really enjoying the hell out of it... Ignorance REALLY is bliss


This has to be a first where people who read the book are behind those who watch the series.


:character-hobbes:

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I always thought it so silly that people get upset about the show/movie not matching the book. They never do, have they not realized that yet? They are completely different mediums. Enjoy each for what it offers.

Unless they do Replay by Ken Grimwood. Then that shit better be spot on cause that's my favorite book! :lol:

 

[RosalieDay]

Brienne getting new loot from Jaime and saying goodbye, those scenes hit me right in the feels.


And whatever the White Walkers have in store, I think their plans will take awhile if they don't find a quicker route back and forth, picking up those babies. :lol:

ETA: Speaking of the White Walkers, did anyone else think of a Zabrak? Kinda, maybe?

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

ETA: Speaking of the White Walkers, did anyone else think of a Zabrak? Kinda, maybe?

I totally thought the same thing! :lol:

 

[eclipse76]

No comments about the last episodes, especially the way they added a Cersei/Jaime which wasn't even in the book?

the cersei/jaime sex happened in the book,
the main difference was that the showrunners changed it from consensual sex, to rape

Yes, that what I meant by "added a thing".

I don't care if it doesn't follow the book to the letter, but committing a rape greatly changes the dynamics of the characters. As far as i understand, Jaime was onto a "redemption path" bu that scene ruined all his character development.

 

[Red7227]

I don't care if it doesn't follow the book to the letter, but committing a rape greatly changes the dynamics of the characters. As far as i understand, Jaime was onto a "redemption path" bu that scene ruined all his character development.

Redemption for what? His character hasn't actually done anything wrong.

 

[eclipse76]

I don't care if it doesn't follow the book to the letter, but committing a rape greatly changes the dynamics of the characters. As far as i understand, Jaime was onto a "redemption path" bu that scene ruined all his character development.

Redemption for what? His character hasn't actually done anything wrong.

I don't know, like pushing a kid from a tower?

 

[Kradek]

I don't care if it doesn't follow the book to the letter, but committing a rape greatly changes the dynamics of the characters. As far as i understand, Jaime was onto a "redemption path" bu that scene ruined all his character development.

Redemption for what? His character hasn't actually done anything wrong.

I don't know, like pushing a kid from a tower?

Yeah, that. Having three kids with his sister too. This is probably an area where having read the books makes something a lot more clear. Jaime, prior to his capture is a pretty thoroughly despicable human being, in the same vein as his sister. One of the best tricks Martin has pulled off is making me actually start to like the guy in later books. I hated him, probably intentionally, early on.

 

[Red7227]

I don't care if it doesn't follow the book to the letter, but committing a rape greatly changes the dynamics of the characters. As far as i understand, Jaime was onto a "redemption path" bu that scene ruined all his character development.

Redemption for what? His character hasn't actually done anything wrong.

I don't know, like pushing a kid from a tower?

Yeah, that. Having three kids with his sister too. This is probably an area where having read the books makes something a lot more clear. Jaime, prior to his capture is a pretty thoroughly despicable human being, in the same vein as his sister. One of the best tricks Martin has pulled off is making me actually start to like the guy in later books. I hated him, probably intentionally, early on.

The books are initially very Stark versus Lannister with the Lannisters firmly in the role of the bad guys. I never liked Ned or Catlin so I didn't really see Jaime as as much of a bastard as the books wanted to portray him. Throwing Bran out the window or trying to get an excuse to kill Ned in kings landing actuially seemed pretty reasonable to me

 

[eyeteach]

For possibly the first use of the word "consilidation" in an ACF thread red gets a thanks. :-D

 

[RileyBooXOXO]

Omg I've been reading the books, and I'm about even with the show now.

Arya is still my favorite, but I am definitely like Oberyn.

Tyrion is of course one of my favorites as well, but I don't know how he's going to get out of this mess. So I'm trying to emotionally detach myself from him

 

[Red7227]

Omg I've been reading the books, and I'm about even with the show now.

Arya is still my favorite, but I am definitely like Oberyn.

Tyrion is of course one of my favorites as well, but I don't know how he's going to get out of this mess. So I'm trying to emotionally detach myself from him

If they follow the books the next couple episodes will be very interesting

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Question about the books. Are they primarily a lot of exposition and background information in detail?
I haven't read them but it just seems like they are very heavy in that area compared to dialogue and action scenes.

I've been avoiding them so far because I get that feeling. Another series I really liked at first was Honor Harrington by David Weber. That series started out very tightly written with a lot of action sequences. But as the books went on and it became much more popular I think he was pressed into writing longer books and they stopped doing as much editing on it. So from the 5th or 6th book in the series on you started having entire chapters devoted to background history and hardly anyone actually talking.

One guy would enter someone's office and the other guy would start reflecting on their entire history, the history of the other guy's home planet, the time there was a battle there 20 years in the past, how many tonnes of food is imported to that system, how many sheets of toilet paper that person uses to wipe...

The minutia that went on for pages that served absolutely no purpose whatsoever to the plot of the book got to be so overwhelming I had to quit reading the series. To this day I avoid books that are overbloated like that just for the sake of selling a big book. Editors: no author should get too big for their britches they stop using them.

 

[Red7227]

Question about the books. Are they primarily a lot of exposition and background information in detail?
I haven't read them but it just seems like they are very heavy in that area compared to dialogue and action scenes.

They just abandon about 3/4s of the plots in the series. Its also a lot nicer. Much douchbaggery is avoided.

Harrington would have been court marshalled and executed for incompetence about the second book if the same redneck standards were applied to her own perfrmance. I've always liked Elizabeth Moon's characters more. Sassinak is a much more plausible character. The plots get about as silly though.

 

[RileyBooXOXO]

This really sums um my feelings on the latest episode perfectly.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

This really sums um my feelings on the latest episode perfectly.

Subscribed. Funny review.

 

[adorkabelle]

This really sums um my feelings on the latest episode perfectly.

Ohman, that's spot on. I look forward to watching his review/recap of episode 5.


Ep5 talk
I'd not let Robin the little Lord of the Eyrie play with or near the moondoor. Like, I don't trust that kid to not fail to understand he can't fly. Or you know, shove random people through it. Kid seems downright gleeful for the chance to do so.

I worry for Sansa, I feel like Littlefinger might be either projecting Catelyn onto her in which case shit going get crazy OR he's convinced himself Sansa really is his daughter(niece in the show) with Catelyn and is doing the paternal thing is a veryvery creepy way. Littlefinger doesn't seem like the type for playing pretend or self delusion, so, I'm not even sure my theories are right. But I do know is he's an untrustworthy fuck.

MY RANDOM THEORY the dragons hatching and the white walkers rising, and the red guy was able to bring that bandit dude back to life so easily. Clearly means the return of magic to the world. Like it's a tidal thing; it had been a magical low tide and it's flowing back into the world now. So as the series goes on well encounter more magical things, and get to see how the various characters react or adapt. Which might be it's totally possible for Sam to have his wish and he could become a wizard. (I only want good things for Sam).

It was heartbreaking to see Hordors panic after Bran warged out of him and he saw very dead Loocke and the blood on his hands...like ugh.

I'm like 90% certain Pod is murder-bait. He's so likable even I want to stab him in the back.

How terrifying was it to see a sober and downright rational/friendly Cersei? ...freaked me out. That cannot be a good sign.

**Possible Spoilers from Book**

Spoiler

Do you think we will see Lady Stoneheart any time soon?
I feel like her reveal will be a major point in the season. And perhaps a strong enough punch to end a season on. But then I sort of feel like the show writers are trying to still give the book readers surprises (and/or fuck with us), hence all of the changes from book to show, so maybe not.

 

[Red7227]

 

[Pepp]

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I have to say I've been pretty disappointed with the last 2/3 episodes. This was in my opinion the best book. At this point in the book shit was kicking off constantly. They're clearly trying to save it all for the last 3 episodes but I don't really see why. There's more than enough action to spread it out rather than cram it all into a few episodes.

What was the whole thing with crasters about?! So they decide to bring Loch into the picture... interesting... Then Jon decides to go to Crasters and apparently Bran is there too and a whole load of general debauchery goes on and all that. Then Bran and that lot escape from Crasters and decide not to go and contact Jon so they never even meet anyway (Just like the books). Meanwhile Jon gets his arse kicked by some cut throat arsehole and gets saved by a scabby woman. The sword through the face was kind of cool, but come on, that fight was pathetic! Oh and of course meanwhile Loch dies... So all of that was completely and utterly pointless.

Well done on wasting an entire episode! Like where the fuck are the wildlings?! In the book Jon shows up injured and is like "The wildlings are coming!". Everyone has time to get ready and do some barricading and Jon and his brothers defend the wall awesome style. What on earth are the wildlings doing? They don't really come across as the kind of people to dawdle and relax while the wall has time to prepare. There is so much stuff that happens in this book that I doubt they're going to manage to fit it all in.

Interesting the bit with the white walkers... That part isn't even in any of the books. I'm not sure if George R. R. Martin has given the series spoilers. Kind of cool for those who have read the books, but I hope he doesn't give them too much as I don't want the books to be spoilt.

Wasn't keen on the rape scene with Jaime either... That was weird.

All in all I've felt disappointed after watching each episode. I've still enjoyed them but they've been missing something. They do this every season, they'll start not so good and then will go big at the end. I'm really hoping the end will be awesome.

 

[Red7227]

All in all I've felt disappointed after watching each episode. I've still enjoyed them but they've been missing something. They do this every season, they'll start not so good and then will go big at the end. I'm really hoping the end will be awesome.

At the moment. When I see gifs from a new GoT episode turn up, i know that there must also be a new Ophan Black episode out. That show never disappoints, thought its getting a bit disturbing.