Asking for a friend...

[MarieElise]

If you knew a model who was starting CB, but didn't know anything about the site at all. What's the first, basic advice you'd give them? Other than to turn off grays (which is probably the only thing this model knows so far).

Anything about the interface is especially helpful, since this model has information processing issues, and gets overwhelmed easily.
(Don't worry though, she does at least know the basic stuff like don't have unverified people on stream, don't do ageplay, don't give out personal details, or anything else that's super weird.)

 

[Marceline]

I'm never really sure what to do with it. I don't mind muting the rude greys but there are so many borderline cases where I don't feel it's my place to mute them.

I've never had to yet but I would have no hesitation in clearing someone and their messages out of the chat if she was busy performing and didn't notice it.

^^ This is literally the only thing my room helpers (basically mods, just MFC’s term for them) ever did with their room helper status.

If I was just chatting and had easy access to my keyboard, I wouldn’t have a room helper. But, there would be times where I was doing a show covered in oil (and once in ice cream haha) or in the shower, and it would have been a huge hassle to stop mid show to clean off my hands so I could use my laptop to ban or mute someone, so room helpers were really useful in those situations. I’ve seen horror stories about models ruining their laptops or keyboards from getting oil all over and in it, so I didn’t want that happening. Even then, my regs would usually only ban/mute/kick someone if they were acting really out of pocket, and it was almost always because I specifically said out loud to ban the person.

So, I think mods can be useful in those sorts of instances. Other than that, I think it’s mostly a status thing. And mods who try to talk for the model or continuously post in the chat about how others should tip are very bad for business.

 

[rockin_rod]

It raises the question of whether it's actually possible to ignore the moderator.

No question, I've done it many times (or else I would not have suggested doing that).

ETA: an example of why I'm done reading such inane BS from anyone who claims to be 'exclusively working with the model' (whatever the fuck they think that means, only the model is working).
I blanked out a reference to the model in these GIFs so it doesn't identify them.

 

[Vixxen81]

No question, I've done it many times (or else I would not have suggested doing that).

ETA: an example of why I'm done reading such inane BS from anyone who claims to be 'exclusively working with the model' (whatever the fuck they think that means, only the model is working).
I blanked out a reference to the model in these GIFs so it doesn't identify them.
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OH HELL FUCKING NO. Instant demodding and banning.

Also everyone can turn emotes off. Including the broadcaster.

 

[Vixxen81]

One of things I'm really grateful for is that no one ever sat in my room making gifs of me. I hate that shit.

 

[cexmental]

I never enjoyed rooms with mods who yelled, demanded, tipped the most to have control, tossed up endless :emoticons, etc. I'm a simple and organized person who relishes respect and quiet. As such, I've only modded for people I am comfortable with. However, I consider modding to be more than silencing users in chat or begging people to spend money. I think of modding as an important job. It's my job to help keep my model informed of TOS violations, CB trends (it's why I read threads here), online safety, etc. It's my job to help track regulars/tippers, save CB notes on users, and present that information in a beneficial way. It's my job to help advertise services, menus, goals. It's my job to offer support, be it emotional or creative. It's my job to make my job easier, and the reason I spent years writing a bunch of mod tools and statistical output for the model. It's my job to blend into the background. That includes a ninja tool set and understanding my place in the chat. I'm lucky to spend time with someone I am comfortable with. If I'm not operating at my best, I'm doing a diservice to them and myself.

If you're moding for any other reasons than to offer honest help or getting paid, you're modding selfishly. I see this as resulting in a hostile environment in one form or another.

I just wanted to add some thoughts, because I seems like there are a lot of bad mod experiences out there.

Cheers,
Cexmental

 

[Smoothie]

One of things I'm really grateful for is that no one ever sat in my room making gifs of me. I hate that shit.

Speaking of that, I’ve often wondered how cb can allow basically anyone to upload explicit gifs, which can then be re-used by anyone that knows or finds the file name.

I get why models would be allowed to create explicit gifs of themselves. But members can create them too, which seems like a risk. You can report gifs that are clearly offensive, which is good. But the generic porn/nudity gifs probably don’t get reported, and it’s hard to imagine the people in those gifs provided consent, in all cases, for their image to be used repeatedly in that way.

Then again, I guess gifs on all sites play a little fast & loose with permissions/rights.

 

[misterical]

I never enjoyed rooms with mods who yelled, demanded, tipped the most to have control, tossed up endless :emoticons, etc. I'm a simple and organized person who relishes respect and quiet. As such, I've only modded for people I am comfortable with. However, I consider modding to be more than silencing users in chat or begging people to spend money. I think of modding as an important job. It's my job to help keep my model informed of TOS violations, CB trends (it's why I read threads here), online safety, etc. It's my job to help track regulars/tippers, save CB notes on users, and present that information in a beneficial way. It's my job to help advertise services, menus, goals. It's my job to offer support, be it emotional or creative. It's my job to make my job easier, and the reason I spent years writing a bunch of mod tools and statistical output for the model. It's my job to blend into the background. That includes a ninja tool set and understanding my place in the chat. I'm lucky to spend time with someone I am comfortable with. If I'm not operating at my best, I'm doing a diservice to them and myself.

If you're moding for any other reasons than to offer honest help or getting paid, you're modding selfishly. I see this as resulting in a hostile environment in one form or another.

I just wanted to add some thoughts, because I seems like there are a lot of bad mod experiences out there.

Cheers,
Cexmental

There's not a lot of this that fits the description of "blending into the background" though. It seems a bit full on, both for you and for the model. A lot of reference to things being "your job". I think once you start crossing that boundary into thinking that you are an employee or "part of the team" then you run the risk of getting too invested and lose sight of the fact that it is her business, not yours. When you get that invested in anything, a lot of things become personal and you run the risk of making emotional, reactionary decisions, which could hurt her business.

I've no idea why you would keep cb notes on members for instance. I mean, I know the functionality is there but really? And yes, as a moderator I recognise the regulars. You can't sit in a room regularly and not notice the same names coming through but if I notice them, so does she and she can well enough deal with that herself.

 

[misterical]

No question, I've done it many times (or else I would not have suggested doing that).

ETA: an example of why I'm done reading such inane BS from anyone who claims to be 'exclusively working with the model' (whatever the fuck they think that means, only the model is working).
I blanked out a reference to the model in these GIFs so it doesn't identify them.
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That kind of shit is stifling in rooms. I see it a lot. More to the point, I can't recall a single time where it appeared to make the slightest difference to whether people tipped. Tippers will always tip and freeloaders will always freeload. Throwing gifs at the situation won't change anyone's behaviour or increase their available funds. Sometimes it feels like moderators justifying their own existence as moderators, rather than genuinely helping.

And let's face it. A lot of guys who come to these rooms aren't the most articulate or confident. It's difficult enough for them to initiate a conversation without them feeling like the model has a burly bodyguard watching their every word and silently judging their tipping habits.

 

[misterical]

To be honest, it's not difficult. If you are a moderator and the model trusts you, just be a mate. Don't write yourself a job description or look for a performance appraisal. Help when you are asked to help. Bring levity to the situation when things aren't going so well. If you spot something that she doesn't or something that she can't deal with at the time then deal with it. But don't be acting like a performance analyst who has side jobs as a bouncer and cheerleader.

I dunno, I can only tell folk how I deal with being a moderator.

 

[rockin_rod]

@MarieElise we've gone down a rabbit hole on room moderation, but still hoping for good news of your friend's early experiences using CB

 

[MarieElise]

@MarieElise we've gone down a rabbit hole on room moderation, but still hoping for good news of your friend's early experiences using CB

Oh yeah, my friend is actually me . I'm cool with rabbit holes. It's still relevant to learning the site ie talking about mods what they can do/ should do etc etc I doubt anyone would have the balls to try and mod my room, but I guess we'll see. Lol. If they do volunteer themselves for that, they better get real good at taking orders. I'm very anal and specific, and I'm a real whip cracker.

Hahaha I'll be emailing them at 7am to wake up, have a protein shake and jog 5 miles before they even get to the actually modding my room part and I will be charting their every move, on paper There will be mandatory staff meetings, and I will expect specific attire and language. There will be no pay, and dismissals will probably be frequent

 

[Vixxen81]

Speaking of that, I’ve often wondered how cb can allow basically anyone to upload explicit gifs, which can then be re-used by anyone that knows or finds the file name.

I get why models would be allowed to create explicit gifs of themselves. But members can create them too, which seems like a risk. You can report gifs that are clearly offensive, which is good. But the generic porn/nudity gifs probably don’t get reported, and it’s hard to imagine the people in those gifs provided consent, in all cases, for their image to be used repeatedly in that way.

Then again, I guess gifs on all sites play a little fast & loose with permissions/rights.

I don't know how long you've been on the site, but I do know those black and white gifs of open mouthed tonselectomies and other really graphic gifs were there since 2013.

You have to have at least one token to upload a gif now. There was a model specific section but I'm not sure if it's still there, the last thing I uploaded was about 6 years ago.

I agree they should all be removed. Hell I think there are some that seem underage too, but CB has never addressed it. Instead we get features we don't want or need.

 

[Garduskippa]

I have all gifs turned off. Its annoying

 

[Vixxen81]

I have all gifs turned off. Its annoying

Models should not do this. We need to see what crap is being posted.

 

[MarieElise]

Models should not do this. We need to see what crap is being posted.

So if we turn them off the room still sees it?

 

[Garduskippa]

But my avatar is home made gif aka steam engine.

 

[Vixxen81]

So if we turn them off the room still sees it?

Correct. unless the viewer has them turned off. Then they just see the keyword string.

 

[Garduskippa]

Correct. unless the viewer has them turned off. Then they just see the keyword string.

Yep i see only the strings.

 

[Vixxen81]

There was mention of enter/leave notices. Models are in control there. I have enter notifications turned on but turned off leave notifications (cause that hurts the ego.)

We recognize names over time and it's the same effect as greeting a guest checking in at the front desk of a hotel. "Hello, Mr. Bigballs, glad to see you again. Welcome in."

 

[Garduskippa]

"Hello, Mr. Bigballs, glad to see you again. Welcome in."

You can deposit all your tokens here, feel free to do so. Thank you.
After that you can checkout.
Was thinking about Hotel Calfornia from The Eagles

 

[MarieElise]

There was mention of enter/leave notices. Models are in control there. I have enter notifications turned on but turned off leave notifications (cause that hurts the ego.)

I have that same thing set on SM. I get audible alerts when they enter only. Mainly for if I'm in another tab. It hurts the ego, and it can also be overly much information to process at busy times too.

SM also has a setting where their name can be set to linger 1, 5, 10 or 15 minutes after leaving in a lighter font. That helps a lot with reports of rule breakers


They didn't get the reaction they wanted and ran off, but their name and client id can remain on the screen, for reporting or charting purposes, for up to 20 mins I believe. It's unbelievably handy.

 

[rockin_rod]

Oh yeah, my friend is actually me.

Yes I took that from the thread title

 

[RainForest]

There was mention of enter/leave notices. Models are in control there. I have enter notifications turned on but turned off leave notifications (cause that hurts the ego.)

We recognize names over time and it's the same effect as greeting a guest checking in at the front desk of a hotel. "Hello, Mr. Bigballs, glad to see you again. Welcome in."

I have enter notifications turned on for everybody but leave notifications turned off for grey's because who cares

 

[Vixxen81]

I have enter notifications turned on for everybody but leave notifications turned off for grey's because who cares

Grey accounts should be auto-terminated after a year of not spending. IMO.

 

[RainForest]

Grey accounts should be auto-terminated after a year of not spending. IMO.

It should be done just before XMAS lol

 

[Garduskippa]

Grey accounts should be auto-terminated after a year of not spending. IMO.

A liitle visit by the perhaps?
Grey user? you not going back!
Unless you have tokens to spend on me

 

[misterical]

Grey accounts should be auto-terminated after a year of not spending. IMO.

It's worse on Stripchat because you can see when the account was created. I used to see guys chatting shit and they'd had a grey account for 7 or 8 years. Not a single token purchased or spent in the best part of a decade. Probably spending all the money on polish for their brass necks.

 

[Garduskippa]

It's worse on Stripchat because you can see when the account was created. I used to see guys chatting shit and they'd had a grey account for 7 or 8 years. Not a single token purchased or spent in the best part of a decade. Probably spending all the money on polish for their brass necks.

On the other hand i have seen a guy with a account 2 months old level 98. That is a lot of in 2 months.

 

[misterical]

On the other hand i have seen a guy with a account 2 months old level 98. That is a lot of in 2 months.

It's true. Extremes exist at both ends of the colour chart.

 

[CallMeMaria]

Did someone mention hashtags?! In your room topic you can post up to 5 tags that are relevant to you and your show, users can browse rooms by tags.

Then in your chat, if you have the notifications on for people joining the chat, you can also see if the user has joined in following a specific tag. It will read "user69inchcock has joined the room from #sph"