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MarieElise

Cam Model
Dec 19, 2019
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Twitter Username
@EliMarie717
MFC Username
EliMarie
Streamate Username
MarieElise
ManyVids URL
https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/328205/EliMarie717/
Clips4Sale URL
https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/92217/marie717
If you knew a model who was starting CB, but didn't know anything about the site at all. What's the first, basic advice you'd give them? Other than to turn off grays (which is probably the only thing this model knows so far).

Anything about the interface is especially helpful, since this model has information processing issues, and gets overwhelmed easily.
(Don't worry though, she does at least know the basic stuff like don't have unverified people on stream, don't do ageplay, don't give out personal details, or anything else that's super weird.)
 
@Vixxen81 @MarieElise
I see a lot of rooms, with a pretip of 1000 or even 5000 tokens before starting a private?
How do you think about that?
In this economy and with how inconsistent I can be, I don't plan to do that. If I could get away with it I would, but it's never been a way I like to do things.

I get irritated, moody and turned off easy, and I refuse to humor dipshits.
Just last night (on mfc) I basically told a guy who tipped me $200 for nothing, to fuck off, because he was purposefully flaming me.
I'm not built for politics.

If someone tipped me upfront like that, I'd feel obligated to not end the show early, if they were being a dick.
If we just go minute by minute neither of us has any commitment or obligations, and I like that.
 
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@Vixxen81 @MarieElise
I see a lot of rooms, with a pretip of 1000 or even 5000 tokens before starting a private?
How do you think about that?
I think it's fair, especially if the room is really busy chatwise but slow on tips. That's the fee to take that model off the main page and tank her room. It can be difficult to rebuild a room after a private. Guys don't wait like they used to.
 
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What I'm gathering from a few posts here, is that maybe I should change things, and not take privates while I'm offering room goals, period. I've never done that before on MFC, but if I don't want to charge upfront and be committed to something, I'll just have to do it that way. Unless I run it like I do MFC, where I really don't do room goals, and mainly try to get back to back privates. Uuuugh I can't decide. Since I've never tried actually applying myself to room goals, I have no clue what the pros of that are/ would be.

That would be a huge change for me, but I'm also aware that that is how most models do token sites, and kinda how they (token sites) are supposed to be done.

I guess the major challenge would be splitcamming SM, if I do this. But, I could not splitcam SM, and only split cam MFC, and change how I do things there as well. It might be super confusing for people who are used to me, but it's not like I'm not super confusing for most people anyways... decisions. Hmmmm.
 
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What gathers more tokens?

  1. Public show witch a lot of 1-100 tips
  2. Private show with high token rate
  3. ON sc excl. Private (only one user)
  4. Ticket show for example 200 tokens per ticket.
 
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This is the account of a very longtime user, with some decent advice :

https://chaturbate.com/the_big_bad_wolf/
To me he will always be known as the alphabot guy that purposely applied the spam filtering to colored names causing problems for tippers and models every where.

Edit: back then you couldnt turn that feature off either, he finally changed it a few years ago.
 
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If you knew a model who was starting CB, but didn't know anything about the site at all. What's the first, basic advice you'd give them? Other than to turn off grays (which is probably the only thing this model knows so far).

Anything about the interface is especially helpful, since this model has information processing issues, and gets overwhelmed easily.
(Don't worry though, she does at least know the basic stuff like don't have unverified people on stream, don't do ageplay, don't give out personal details, or anything else that's super weird.)
Tip menu. That fucking changed my life! I didn’t have one with my new tag. I would have made 500X more if I had one.
 
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Hash tags go in the room subject above the video panel. You can have five at once and can change them on the fly.

No need to worry about a bio until you decide how you want to run things. Then I can point you to a bio developer or you can use html and do it yourself. 😉
 
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or you can use html and do it yourself. 😉
Oh this'll be fun 😆

Eta; KingMarti is gonna read that and think to himself "oh please God no! " Haha. He has experience trying to talk me through stuff like that lol

He'll stop responding to DMs and mysteriously be gone on vacay the next 2 weeks avoiding me 😆
 
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HTML:
<html>
    <title>Cute</title>
    <body>
    I am a cute model.
    Please buy my videos.
    </body>
</html>
:nerd:
HTML:
<html>
    <title>Are you man enough Pussy-Balls?</title>

 <body>
I'm too much woman for you to handle.
You'd never last 30 seconds with one of my clips Fuck-Nuts
But humor me, go ahead and try anyways...

    </body>
</html>

lol had to inject a little of my own personality in there 😆
 
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I'm not talking to him since he tried to incorrectly liken something I said to Trump. He's fully on ignore. I will read and listen to absolutely nothing he says, to be 100% frank.
I guess I'm just a pretty little snowflake after all 😆
Don't feel pressured to stop typing.
I love it, and I am beyond grateful.🤍

This because I associated calling someone a snowflake being something that Donald Trump and his like, often do?
Well yeah, u hardly heard anyone insulting anyone calling them snowflake until he did, it's a well known insult the right wing say about the left. And it is a hypercritical insult.

Vixen how often do we see girls come into the forum asking for advice because they're not making much? Heck even you've written in here stressed that u haven't been earning much lately. Look like with onlyfans there's this pop culture urban myth that a young girl
just needs to flash her boobs and will be automatically earning $thousands a week.
Ofc we know that some girls this is very much true. do u think a girl from on page 38 is automatically making that? if they r then they're doing better then the other ladies i follow on the back pages.
Why do you think most new girls on the site leave within 6 months if they're making good money?

Uk minimum wage is £12.21 ($14.89) so over say 40 hours She makes £488.10 so to make at least just as much on cb she needs to make over 9000 tokens a week. And again this is just minimum wage. Realistically cb would have to be a side job at first, possibly for good.
 
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My advice would be to set-up your basic securities (a bot to manage spam/users, remove your location from your bio, etc), create some content to sell for day 1 (a couple of 1 min videos), read the CB Terms of Service/rules (and truly understand them), and then see how it goes.

What works for one model does not work for all models.

CB Support: https://support.chaturbate.com/hc/en-us/p/form_requests

CB TOS: https://chaturbate.com/terms/?language=en
CB Contest Rules: https://chaturbate.com/terms/appendix-a/
CB Affiliate Terms: https://chaturbate.com/terms/appendix-b/
CB Privacy and Cookie Policy: https://chaturbate.com/privacy/
CB Code of Conduct: https://chaturbate.com/terms/appendix

Cheers,
Cexmental
 
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This because I associated calling someone a snowflake being something that Donald Trump and his like, often do?
Well yeah, u hardly heard anyone insulting anyone calling them snowflake until he did, it's a well known insult the right wing say about the left. And it is a hypercritical insult.

Vixen how often do we see girls come into the forum asking for advice because they're not making much? Heck even you've written in here stressed that u haven't been earning much lately. Look like with onlyfans there's this pop culture urban myth that a young girl
just needs to flash her boobs and will be automatically earning $thousands a week.
Ofc we know that some girls this is very much true. do u think a girl from on page 38 is automatically making that? if they r then they're doing better then the other ladies i follow on the back pages.
Why do you think most new girls on the site leave within 6 months if they're making good money?

Uk minimum wage is £12.21 ($14.89) so over say 40 hours She makes £488.10 so to make at least just as much on cb she needs to make over 9000 tokens a week. And again this is just minimum wage. Realistically cb would have to be a side job at first, possibly for good.
I think it was you who scoffed and asked me how much I was charging for privates when I mentioned a specific number. And when I was complaining about the lack of money, EVERYONE on EVERY site was complaining about the lack of money.

That figure you're running right there at the bottom? I made that Friday night. :) Cheers.
 
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I think it was you who scoffed and asked me how much I was charging for privates when I mentioned a specific number. And when I was complaining about the lack of money, EVERYONE on EVERY site was complaining about the lack of money.

That figure you're running right there at the bottom? I made that Friday night. :) Cheers.
If I remember rightly the only time I scoffed and asked someone how much they charged was because you and at least another girl were being rude and condescending towards another camgirl on here who said she charges 18 tokens per minute. Tbh can't remember if it was you and might not have been your intention to insult her but that's how it came across to both me and quite clearly her.

As for the money, good for you, no complaints, just remember u are not the only model on cb. Just because U can make that amount in one day doesn't mean most can. I follow girls who have pvts set at 30-60 tokens per min who don't often get people asking for pvts.

Pick a random room where the model is charging more then 6 tokens per pvt, somewhere in the double digit pages, watch how much she makes over a few hours.
 
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If I remember rightly the only time I scoffed and asked someone how much they charged was because you and at least another girl were being rude and condescending towards another camgirl on here who said she charges 18 tokens per minute. Tbh can't remember if it was you and might not have been your intention to insult her but that's how it came across to both me and quite clearly her.

As for the money, good for you, no complaints, just remember u are not the only model on cb. Just because U can make that amount in one day doesn't mean most can. I follow girls who have pvts set at 30-60 tokens per min who don't often get people asking for pvts.

Pick a random room where the model is charging more then 6 tokens per pvt, somewhere in the double digit pages, watch how much she makes over a few hours.
That was me and I stand by it. I charge a lot, because you're killing my room when you take me off the page and I expect to be tipped within the show as well. I don't waver or negotiate and maybe it's taken more seriously because I'm not under 30. Maybe they aren't whatever those people are looking for in a private show.

These threads exist because there is a learning curve. I learned just about damn near everything on my own and when I came here I learned that much more to make it even better for myself. There are things I won't share because they're my brain children and I don't want anyone else to have them but as far as general strategies and all that? Open book. It's up to the model to learn how to implement them and make them work for her. So yes, you are technically correct in the idea that it's wrong to assume you can just pop a tit and make your life happen. But you are incredibly wrong in thinking that it can't be more than enough to make ends meet and beyond. If that were indeed true, you wouldn't have models who have been on the site for 12 - 15 years. Consistently. Some are so successful they get to take months off at a time. Do they have a team behind them? Probably. But they made enough initially to create that team. There's so much you guys as viewers don't even see or understand in nuances, tip notes you can't read that aren't read allowed to the room, bans that you no longer see happening, PM/DM....honestly, sometimes I really wish you guys would take our money out of your mouth.
 
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That was me and I stand by it. I charge a lot, because you're killing my room when you take me off the page and I expect to be tipped within the show as well. I don't waver or negotiate and maybe it's taken more seriously because I'm not under 30. Maybe they aren't whatever those people are looking for in a private show.

These threads exist because there is a learning curve. I learned just about damn near everything on my own and when I came here I learned that much more to make it even better for myself. There are things I won't share because they're my brain children and I don't want anyone else to have them but as far as general strategies and all that? Open book. It's up to the model to learn how to implement them and make them work for her. So yes, you are technically correct in the idea that it's wrong to assume you can just pop a tit and make your life happen. But you are incredibly wrong in thinking that it can't be more than enough to make ends meet and beyond. If that were indeed true, you wouldn't have models who have been on the site for 12 - 15 years. Consistently. Some are so successful they get to take months off at a time. Do they have a team behind them? Probably. But they made enough initially to create that team. There's so much you guys as viewers don't even see or understand in nuances, tip notes you can't read that aren't read allowed to the room, bans that you no longer see happening, PM/DM....honestly, sometimes I really wish you guys would take our money out of your mouth.

Well i dont regret scoffing at you if you felt the need to be rude to a fellow camgirl just because she charges less then you.


I never said it wasn't enough to live off, I just said "dont make alot" as in most doesn't make loads of money.
It's just u assuming the worst like you often do, when u read something someone put. Ofc I know there are models that been here for several years doing fine.
I know there are girls that are making hundreds of thousands a year.
What I'm saying is most aren't, how many of these girls that have been here over a decade front page models?
How many girls have been here for several years vs girls who only stay for a few months? I mean I'm sure many leave as soon as they make enough or realise it's not for them, but how many because it's harder to make real money then they thought/little interest from users?

What I was saying is the model shouldn't go expecting to make shit loads, just expect the possibility that they might do no better then any other job, particularly if theyre from a first world country, theres a reason why the majority of cb is from central/south America, And why the next majority from eastern Europe.

Do you watch any of the female models? Any of the ones that aren't popular? Because as a viewer I have, loads of times, you don't think I've heard girls talking about quitting or leaving or even sending pm asking (you're going to love this) any ideas to draw more users in.

Actually ask any viewer here, how often when they enter the room of a lady (with less then 100 viewers) do they suddenly get sent a free pm without asking?

You saying as a user we don't see alot of what goes on, but you also forget as a punter we also see things that models who don't browse don't see, and there's a reason why most of the back pages are of girls charging less.

FYI I do take money out of my mouth, may not be much (what can I say, I just make enough to get by) but I always fucking contribute when I visit a room, and I wish I could tip more.
 
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FYI I do take money out of my mouth, may not be much (what can I say, I just make enough to get by) but I always fucking contribute when I visit a room, and I wish I could tip more.
She means stop discussing cam girl money.
 
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Well i dont regret scoffing at you if you felt the need to be rude to a fellow camgirl just because she charges less then you.


I never said it wasn't enough to live off, I just said "dont make alot" as in most doesn't make loads of money.
It's just u assuming the worst like you often do, when u read something someone put. Ofc I know there are models that been here for several years doing fine.
I know there are girls that are making hundreds of thousands a year.
What I'm saying is most aren't, how many of these girls that have been here over a decade front page models?
How many girls have been here for several years vs girls who only stay for a few months? I mean I'm sure many leave as soon as they make enough or realise it's not for them, but how many because it's harder to make real money then they thought/little interest from users?

What I was saying is the model shouldn't go expecting to make shit loads, just expect the possibility that they might do no better then any other job, particularly if theyre from a first world country, theres a reason why the majority of cb is from central/south America, And why the next majority from eastern Europe.

Do you watch any of the female models? Any of the ones that aren't popular? Because as a viewer I have, loads of times, you don't think I've heard girls talking about quitting or leaving or even sending pm asking (you're going to love this) any ideas to draw more users in.

Actually ask any viewer here, how often when they enter the room of a lady (with less then 100 viewers) do they suddenly get sent a free pm without asking?

You saying as a user we don't see alot of what goes on, but you also forget as a punter we also see things that models who don't browse don't see, and there's a reason why most of the back pages are of girls charging less.

FYI I do take money out of my mouth, may not be much (what can I say, I just make enough to get by) but I always fucking contribute when I visit a room, and I wish I could tip more.
Oh fuck off all the way off until you fall off and keep cix
Well i dont regret scoffing at you if you felt the need to be rude to a fellow camgirl just because she charges less then you.


I never said it wasn't enough to live off, I just said "dont make alot" as in most doesn't make loads of money.
It's just u assuming the worst like you often do, when u read something someone put. Ofc I know there are models that been here for several years doing fine.
I know there are girls that are making hundreds of thousands a year.
What I'm saying is most aren't, how many of these girls that have been here over a decade front page models?
How many girls have been here for several years vs girls who only stay for a few months? I mean I'm sure many leave as soon as they make enough or realise it's not for them, but how many because it's harder to make real money then they thought/little interest from users?

What I was saying is the model shouldn't go expecting to make shit loads, just expect the possibility that they might do no better then any other job, particularly if theyre from a first world country, theres a reason why the majority of cb is from central/south America, And why the next majority from eastern Europe.

Do you watch any of the female models? Any of the ones that aren't popular? Because as a viewer I have, loads of times, you don't think I've heard girls talking about quitting or leaving or even sending pm asking (you're going to love this) any ideas to draw more users in.

Actually ask any viewer here, how often when they enter the room of a lady (with less then 100 viewers) do they suddenly get sent a free pm without asking?

You saying as a user we don't see alot of what goes on, but you also forget as a punter we also see things that models who don't browse don't see, and there's a reason why most of the back pages are of girls charging less.

FYI I do take money out of my mouth, may not be much (what can I say, I just make enough to get by) but I always fucking contribute when I visit a room, and I wish I could tip more.
Pardon me Amber but I'm about to unload two barrels into him.

You are the worst viewer. You say that you mod for a top room, I've never seen your name on CB. Maybe you were smart about that but considering your horseshit here I doubt it, and for what it's worth again you're an idiot that doesn't understand anything. When you post that girls aren't making money it's because you aren't tipping them I think you somehow found my room one night and tipped me less than a thumbs up which is 25 tokens, you have no credibility here at all and yet you act like you do. It's really rather fascinating. Main Character Syndrome.
 
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Pardon me Amber but I'm about to unload two barrels into him.
No worries, his posts are bringing nothing to this thread so he's not welcome in it anymore :D
 
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That was me and I stand by it. I charge a lot, because you're killing my room when you take me off the page and I expect to be tipped within the show as well. I don't waver or negotiate and maybe it's taken more seriously because I'm not under 30. Maybe they aren't whatever those people are looking for in a private show.

Just wanted to chime in and say, I can't ever remember you being rude or condescending towards another model for having low rates. Some people just think that anything that isn't coddling or is worded bluntly is being mean or condescending. But let's be real, 6 tokens a minute is an absurdly low rate to price privates. That's $18 dollars an hour. You can make more than that at most entry level jobs, without risking your health, safety and privacy.
 
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Just wanted to chime in and say, I can't ever remember you being rude or condescending towards another model for having low rates. Some people just think that anything that isn't coddling or is worded bluntly is being mean or condescending. But let's be real, 6 tokens a minute is an absurdly low rate to price privates. That's $18 dollars an hour. You can make more than that at most entry level jobs, without risking your health, safety and privacy.
Not to mention that's $18 an hour with no space between pvt's which let's face it is never going to happen because there's always resetting that needs to happen between pvts, even if you can get the customers to be back to back, so realistically that $18 an hour is going to end up looking more like $12-$15 an hour, and then you have to deduct the % of tax you're going to need to pay on it, the expenses of actually running (the cost of the electricity to run the pc and the lights for example along with all of the other costs that go into it like hair, makeup, internet etc that while harder to break down to an hourly cost are still expenses that need to be covered from that original $18 an hour)
 
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Oh oh oh.... are you coming to the dark side? We have cookies.

RamRodRomeo16Inch6969MoneyBags has been waiting for this day. ;)

What I'm gathering from a few posts here, is that maybe I should change things, and not take privates while I'm offering room goals, period.
I think that depends on the goal and it if has been reached. If you've just reached a big ticket goal (a few thousand tokens say) some people may be disappointed/upset if you disappear to take a private. I don't think it's much of an issue for smaller goals or if the goal isn't close to completion. And, if you don't really want to take privates you can set your prices to some insanely high amount; if someone is going to pay an insanely high amount for your time it might be worth it.

Uuuugh I can't decide.
And the great thing is, you don't have to. Mix it up and see what works for you; maybe you'll like doing simple, cheap goals that are easy to achieve (blow a kiss, quick flash etc.) or maybe you'll have more luck with bigger more expensive goals (any public nudity or orgasms). Maybe use items from your tip menu, but at a discount. Or maybe do things that are exclusive to goals and aren't on your tip menu. Or set up a tip poll app and let the viewers pick the next goal. The possibilities are endless.

Some other points, many of which have also been mentioned.

1. Hash tags. You can list as many as you want, but you will only be searchable by the first five you list, so make sure you list the most important ones first. Since the hash tags are free form text make sure you don't make any typos; #bigbobs won't get you many viewers unless you are looking for Bob Newhart fans.
2. Get apps, bots, menus, and a simple bio set up for day one. You can use the testbed to play around and figure things out before going live.
3. Clear a week on your calendar to make the most of the "New" tag. It is going to attract a number of guys that think the "New" tags means you are easy to take advantage of, and I sooo want to be there to watch you slap the shit out of them 😂
 
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3. Clear a week on your calendar to make the most of the "New" tag.
One other thing that I don't think anyone else has mentioned yet; the seven day "New" tag starts the moment your account is approved and not when you first start broadcasting. So don't register an account until you are ready to go. Support seems to be pretty good about resetting the New tag, but it's an extra hassle that is easy enough to avoid.
 
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