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RainbowBryte said:
FrenchKitty said:
It's always slightly embarassing to witness little (or bigger........) kids pointing fingers at any Black person in a super (tiny)market and screaming "look look swarte piet!"
It's a bit better than "go back to africa" but not by much lol.

I dont really know much about this swarte piet guy but I was at the store with my kids once and an old dude with white hair and a beard walked by and my daughter was like mommy mommy look its santa!! Do kids like this piet guy?? If so i don't really see it as being that horrible that a small child might get confused.

Oh and black face is pretty rediculous!
It's different, somehow..... but it's hard to explain, obviously little kids will also scream santa (sint) when they see an old guy with a white beard, but I wasn't talking about 3year olds... 10/12 y olds are prone to screaming "haha look, swarte piet" and laugh.
But the 3 years olds are often scared of swarte piet throwing them into a bag and taking them to the boat :p The schools help with this a lot though, they organize events around christmas where lots of swarte pieten come to the school, snap pictures with the kids, even give presents, and everything's less scary for the kids after that. Also they grow up.
Tiny 3 years olds will hide behind their moms though,when they cross paths with a Black guy.
The other issue i have with swarte piet is the television programs that come up around christmas time. They're , i'm sorry but, pictured as DUMBASSES. innocent stupid submissive slaves. They act like children , of the worst kind; while being obviously adults right? but black. I find it weird.
 
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FrenchKitty said:
pictured as DUMBASSES. innocent stupid submissive slaves. They act like children , of the worst kind; while being obviously adults right? but black. I find it weird.

HOLD ON... you are aware this is flemish right? i don't wanna sound like a flemish hating bitch, but even adult themed flemish programs, like game shows, or even talk shows, come across as childish and dumb.. its kind of their 'thing'
i hate watching flemish entertainment because of the way they do it..
the most popular dutch show about sinterklaas, is where the pieten are actually the center of the story, and they're having big adventures and are always the hero's of the story...
they save sinterklaas from all kinds of bad people, and you see that they are the ones that rule the castle, sinterklaas doesn't even have a big part in it..
in my experience kids are either a little shy about zwarte pieten, or they think they're cool



when i walk across the street, i get yelled at by 10,11 year olds as well, telling me i'm gross and a fatass
thats bad parenting, just like the boys you talk about... they know damn well that they're not suposed to be little dickheads...
when i see shit happening like that.. and parents just laughing and turn the cheek.. i wanna slap them in the face..

what i'm trying to say is... it's not really like it seems for outsiders, ofcourse we raised eyebrows about zwarte piet, but in the end it's a celebration for our children..
it doesn't in one way reflect what we (adults) think about racism or black people... AT ALL!!

sinterklaas parade in rotterdam:


yes! i feel passionate about this.. it's a great celebration for KIDS.. and i still love the sinterklaas! and no i don't feel like a racist for doing so..
 
Is it flemish?? I know for sure it's on Dutch TV though. Anyway, i always did the whole sinterklaas thing, at my in-laws, but THEY are racist, so that may be why I have been a bit apalled by their version of the pieten. I didn't know that show was flemish but ,ok, everyone looks like a dumbass in it lol, only sinterklaas is a sort of "father figure" telling people off and fixing everything.
I also have to agree that dutch kids are generally not very respectful , which doesn't make them more racist, they're just raised in a "let the kids be kids" way I guess. It can make the streets irritating, especially since you're not supposed to tell them off when they insult you......
Anyway yeah, it's always going to look weird to outsiders. But the kids love it for sure.
 
FrenchKitty said:
Is it flemish?? I know for sure it's on Dutch TV though. Anyway, i always did the whole sinterklaas thing, at my in-laws, but THEY are racist, so that may be why I have been a bit apalled by their version of the pieten. I didn't know that show was flemish but ,ok, everyone looks like a dumbass in it lol, only sinterklaas is a sort of "father figure" telling people off and fixing everything.
I also have to agree that dutch kids are generally not very respectful , which doesn't make them more racist, they're just raised in a "let the kids be kids" way I guess. It can make the streets irritating, especially since you're not supposed to tell them off when they insult you......
Anyway yeah, it's always going to look weird to outsiders. But the kids love it for sure.

yeah its flemish, and yeah we do broadcast alot of flemish kids shows/ movies... not really sure why.. i don't see the attraction.. must be a money thing...
that dude in that clip annoys the shit outta me btw... he's like a 50 year old teenager... rather annoying to watch.. but thats my opinion
 
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Pffffff, last day, tomorrow that old bastard and his blackfaced helpers are back to Spain !

And we can put below discussion away for the next 48 weeks ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...lands-holiday-tradition-racist_n_2237076.html

The world does not understand us, including the author of above article, referring to our biggest troll site (geenstijl) as it was a real opinion, man oh man, that was satire.
 
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RedHerby said:
Pffffff, last day, tomorrow that old bastard and his blackfaced helpers are back to Spain !

And we can put below discussion away for the next 48 weeks ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...lands-holiday-tradition-racist_n_2237076.html

The world does not understand us, including the author of above article, referring to our biggest troll site (geenstijl) as it was a real opinion, man oh man, that was satire.
I suspect we understand better than you realise. You have a holiday tradition that you know is racist, but fond memories of childhood and cultural pride keep you from actually doing anything about it, even though it's becoming more of a problem every year.
There are various versions of the history of St. Nicholas – "Sinterklaas" in Dutch – and of Zwarte Piet, who made his debut as an African servant in an 1850 book.

"Nobody is against the Sinterklaas celebration or is calling people who celebrate it racist," said Silversmith. "But it is time to consider whether this is offensive, whether there actually are racist ideas underlying Zwarte Piet."
^ that seems pretty straightforward to me :dontknow:
 
Jupiter551 said:
RedHerby said:
Pffffff, last day, tomorrow that old bastard and his blackfaced helpers are back to Spain !

And we can put below discussion away for the next 48 weeks ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...lands-holiday-tradition-racist_n_2237076.html

The world does not understand us, including the author of above article, referring to our biggest troll site (geenstijl) as it was a real opinion, man oh man, that was satire.
I suspect we understand better than you realise. You have a holiday tradition that you know is racist, but fond memories of childhood and cultural pride keep you from actually doing anything about it, even though it's becoming more of a problem every year.
I know you are right, so best thing to do now is start swearing and make fun of your gay relation wih Nording.

you filthy dick, you do not get us Dutch people, go play with Nording's dick and let us Dutch people do what we do.

is this a good tactic ?
 
RedHerby said:
I know you are right, so best thing to do now is start swearing and make fun of your gay relation wih Nording.

you filthy dick, you do not get us Dutch people, go play with Nording's dick and let us Dutch people do what we do.

is this a good tactic ?


Calling a man gay just because he disagrees with you. :clap: Sounds like something a 12-year old does when he's run out of comebacks.
 
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RedHerby said:
I know you are right, so best thing to do now is start swearing and make fun of your gay relation wih Nording.

you filthy dick, you do not get us Dutch people, go play with Nording's dick and let us Dutch people do what we do.

is this a good tactic ?


Calling a man gay just because he disagrees with you. :clap: Sounds like something a 12-year old does when he's run out of comebacks.
I assumed this was a joke referring to the troll we've had recently. If either Jup or Nord are personally offended by this, please let me know. ;)
 
Nordling said:
Yeah, that's how I took it too. Although sometimes "referencing jokes" often fall flat if the reference isn't obvious to everyone. I suggest this may be the case here.
ofc it was, I mean, in the line before I confirm that Jup is right and I don't have any arguments left, and the line after it is a sarcastic question if it was a good tactic.

However, I can understand it is confusing if someone sees this posting over a few months without knowing about that other thread, I have no problem at all if Amber uses her admin powers.

btw, if or Jup or Nording is offended by the gay suggestion, then they have something to explain in this liberal forum :)
 
RedHerby said:
Nordling said:
Yeah, that's how I took it too. Although sometimes "referencing jokes" often fall flat if the reference isn't obvious to everyone. I suggest this may be the case here.
ofc it was, I mean, in the line before I confirm that Jup is right and I don't have any arguments left, and the line after it is a sarcastic question if it was a good tactic.

However, I can understand it is confusing if someone sees this posting over a few months without knowing about that other thread, I have no problem at all if Amber uses her admin powers.

btw, if or Jup or Nording is offended by the gay suggestion, then they have something to explain in this liberal forum :)
I wasn't when it was a few bits of sarcasm poking fun at the troll. Hell, like mynameisbob, I'd happily join in. However, I think it eventually reaches "enough is enough" status when it leaks over into other threads days later. Not everyone reads every thread...even some of the more vile ones...so you can't assume everyone gets every reference.
 
AmberCutie said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
RedHerby said:
I know you are right, so best thing to do now is start swearing and make fun of your gay relation wih Nording.

you filthy dick, you do not get us Dutch people, go play with Nording's dick and let us Dutch people do what we do.

is this a good tactic ?


Calling a man gay just because he disagrees with you. :clap: Sounds like something a 12-year old does when he's run out of comebacks.
I assumed this was a joke referring to the troll we've had recently. If either Jup or Nord are personally offended by this, please let me know. ;)

mmmfwhat? sorry, was too busy sucking dick :shifty:
also Herby is a fathead!
 
Honestly, the "OMG ITS RACIST!11!" reaction kinda reminds me of ... was it Chasing Amy? Where the guy goes off on one about how Darth Vader is all black, representing that all black people are bad, evil, etc - only to then take off his helmet in the end to show he's white - meaning all black people want to be white. Out of context (here) you'd be hard pushed to know it was all a set up for the friends to get out of the comic signing or whatever it was :D

Question is, if it were a black person in that role rather than a painted white person - does it suddenly make it okay?

Or are you getting all offended by the recent modern racially motivated interpretation that he's a slave. A black slave - which he never was originally and this view isn't even what appears to be the current view there. Only to you...

Remove the "slave" word, what's left? People painted black instead of a black person? but is "black pete" still racist itself? It never was. People have hijacked it.

If they reinvent it to keep you happy - I hope the reinvent it as a black helper. If a white helper is acceptable, so is a black helper - otherwise that is racist as equality is being denied.
 
Zoomer said:
Honestly, the "OMG ITS RACIST!11!" reaction kinda reminds me of ... was it Chasing Amy? Where the guy goes off on one about how Darth Vader is all black, representing that all black people are bad, evil, etc - only to then take off his helmet in the end to show he's white - meaning all black people want to be white. Out of context (here) you'd be hard pushed to know it was all a set up for the friends to get out of the comic signing or whatever it was :D

Question is, if it were a black person in that role rather than a painted white person - does it suddenly make it okay?

Or are you getting all offended by the recent modern racially motivated interpretation that he's a slave. A black slave - which he never was originally and this view isn't even what appears to be the current view there. Only to you...

Remove the "slave" word, what's left? People painted black instead of a black person? but is "black pete" still racist itself? It never was. People have hijacked it.

If they reinvent it to keep you happy - I hope the reinvent it as a black helper. If a white helper is acceptable, so is a black helper - otherwise that is racist as equality is being denied.



thats is like the most awsome post in this thread... AMEN!
 
Zoomer said:
Honestly, the "OMG ITS RACIST!11!" reaction kinda reminds me of ... was it Chasing Amy? Where the guy goes off on one about how Darth Vader is all black, representing that all black people are bad, evil, etc - only to then take off his helmet in the end to show he's white - meaning all black people want to be white. Out of context (here) you'd be hard pushed to know it was all a set up for the friends to get out of the comic signing or whatever it was :D

Question is, if it were a black person in that role rather than a painted white person - does it suddenly make it okay?

Or are you getting all offended by the recent modern racially motivated interpretation that he's a slave. A black slave - which he never was originally and this view isn't even what appears to be the current view there. Only to you...

Remove the "slave" word, what's left? People painted black instead of a black person? but is "black pete" still racist itself? It never was. People have hijacked it.

If they reinvent it to keep you happy - I hope the reinvent it as a black helper. If a white helper is acceptable, so is a black helper - otherwise that is racist as equality is being denied.
So by that logic it's perfectly acceptable for entertainers to mock black people by putting on facepaint, afro wigs, thick lips, or jews by putting on big noses and holding a sack of cash...or any other racist stereotype right?

I guess it's just coincidence that this character, invented in it's current form in the mid 19th century resembles precisely the racist physiological stereotype that again coincides precisely with the period in which minstrel shows became popular in the US, until they were finally thrown out during the 1960s civil rights movement.

If it's not intended to portray the exaggerated physical characteristics (nevermind the slavery/servility aspect at this point) inherent in these specific racist stereotypes, then I invite you to explain why it mimics it so incredibly specifically.
 
jackie_O said:
^ This is really the issue. It is black face, if you want your helper to be black, let a black person play them. Black face is just patently unacceptable. Especially if your character is a slave, but even if he is just a "helper."

I mean, really, what year is it guys?
I couldn't agree more. There are many citizens of the Netherlands of African descent - why not let them play zwart piet and avoid the racist stereotypes? It's a matter of historical fact that this character has evolved over the centuries to what it is now. Evolve it again.
 
Also, let's not forget that from at least the 16th century (where Zwarte Piet's costume originates) until 1863, little more than a decade after Sinterklass' "servant" was introduced, the Dutch were instrumental in the slave trade - both to the Americas and in their own African colonies. The character appears also to be inextricably linked with clumsiness, stupidity and an allround servile nature. I think this is a very interesting article on the matter. It's long, but worth reading. Keep in mind this is from the point of view of AFRICAN newspapers - that is, the people who are most qualified to label this racist:
http://www.thisisafrica.me/opinion/...ve-Race-Power-and-Identity-in-the-Netherlands
Black Pete the slave: Race, Power and Identity in the Netherlands
by Siji Jabbar

Two blackfaced white Dutch girls walking the streets during the Sinterklaas/Zwarte Piet celebration

I once heard a joke that went something like this: when the world is coming to an end, move to the Netherlands because everything happens there 50 years later. A bit harsh, I thought, after all, the Dutch are a relatively progressive people with much to recommend them: from the high level of volunteering and Amnesty International membership relative to other European countries to their pragmatism and absence of hysteria around subjects like cannabis, prostitution, same-sex marriage and euthanasia. And the Netherlands is also the originating country for the World Press exhibition. Then there are other humane and social indicators such as the unemployed being entitled to holiday money and time, and homelessness is one-fifth that of the States. On the matter of race, though, you do wonder.

There are a number of subtle and unsubtle methods by which white Dutch people remind black Dutch people of their place - and keep them there - which is as second-class citizens to be tolerated, but never fully accepted. The most unsubtle of these methods happens once a year around this time, by way of a character called "Zwarte Piet" (translation: Black Pete).

Sinterklass on his white horse with "servants"

In the United stated you have Santa Claus, in the UK he's Father Christmas, and in the Netherlands he's called Sinterklaas. Unlike the other Santas, though, Sinterklaas arrives with his slave/servant called Zwarte Piet. The slave-servant comes dressed like a renaissance minstrel: blackface, painted red lips, afro wig (for tight curly hair), classic "darkie" iconography. The arrival is a huge event: Sinterklaas and the ‘Zwarte Pieten’ make a grand entrance, and the whole parade is broadcast on public television. Sinterklaas sits tall on a white horse while his black servants share out candy to the kids on the sidelines, and families from all over the country either turn up to watch the arrival or watch it on TV. Or course, to cover the country there will be several Black Petes, typically played by white people, all in blackface, with red painted lips and afro wigs. And many people across the country dress up as Zwarte Piet, too, kids and adults alike.

Kids awaiting Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet

The transformation, however, is not complete with the outfit and greasepaint. The character must speak poor Dutch with a stupid accent, and must act childlike and mischievous when performing, thus reinforcing an old stereotype of black people. And from mid-November, when Sintaklass and his servants arrive, right through till the 5th of December, you can see Zwarte Pieten on various television programmes and TV commercials, and on the streets, acting the fool.

At schools across the country, children sing songs referring to the skin tone and character of the black servant "...even if I'm black as coal I mean well…", "Saint Nicolas, enter with your Black servant", etc, and there are other old songs about Zwarte Piet in which he's made out to be a little bit stupid, a little bit clumsy, more akin to a child than an adult, the same generalisations previously applied to black people, but which can no longer be made explicitly, so here's a "tradition" that allows it to be made implicitly.

Bear in mind that Sintaklass is white - always white - so, essentially, the Netherland's biggest Christmas-related celebration consists of a white man who serves as overlord to a group of stupid, forever subordinate black servants with big, red lips and woolly hair, thus mirroring the slave-master relationship of old and keeping the symbolism of the relationship intact in contemporary society.

Bear in mind, also, that the Netherlands is not a remote and isolated country unwittingly celebrating something that has no connection to its history. The Dutch were deeply involved in the slave trade, enriching themselves over centuries at the expense of millions of black people, some of whose descendants live in the Netherlands today.


Portraying Africans, colonial style

Historically, European mythology has not been kind to people of colour. European mythology hasn't even been kind to Jewish people, but the second world war put an end to the caricature of Jews. The European tradition of portraying black people as savages, or wicked and devilish, or inherently dim-witted and suitable only for servitude, has mostly vanished from popular culture due to the protests and the realisation that these depictions are deeply racist and damaging, and have no place in the modern world. Americans got rid of their coon-themed iconography and the Brits have mostly done away with the golliwog figure, as they did with the Black and White Minstrel stage show which was stopped in 1987 (the TV show was stopped in 1969, following petitions and protests). Mind you, the damage had already been done. Repeated over centuries, these portrayals sit deep in the consciousness of many white (and black) people today, and continue to influence the way black people are perceived. Actually, you will still find derogatory references to dark skin in many of the classic European fairy tales, a political act woven into popular culture for kids to absorb sub-consciously.

Minstrel iconography

So what on is going on with the Dutch? How can such an abhorrent anachronism exist in a seemingly modern and progressive country? As one writer put it, "millions of black people were killed or enslaved by white people over four centuries, and millions more continue to suffer discrimination all over Europe and in the States, so this Zwarte Piet character is about as funny as wearing a swastika." If that sounds like an exaggeration, imagine what would happen today if you sang "Saint Nicolas, enter with your Jewish servant" and you immediately see that this is more than just an innocent song.

And in case there's any doubt about this character as a figure of ridicule, watch this clip (which appeared on public television in 2007):

[UPDATE: I've been informed the video was satirical - made by Dutch comedy duo the Groen Brothers, i.e. an exaggeration that takes the figure of Zwarte Piet to the limits of ridicule in order to show how he is in fact really seen, so it supports the point we're making in this article]


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the issue seems to lay with peple who actually have nothing to do with the sinterklaas celebration..
who are not from here...

i find that artical highly offensive.. i feel exactly the same way about the way americans watch executions... thats something that belongs in the middle ages..
us retarded dutch people can say whatever we want... and share our opinions... but it doesn't matter... like it doesn't matter what we feel about the way american put their criminals to death...

claiming that holland is non tolerant and 'puts black people in their place' is offensive and false..
 
jackie_O said:
Many Americans agree with your point of view on the death penalty. But why bring that into a wholly unrelated discussion? "You do something I think is bad so you can't criticize my tradition" isn't a very good way to go about it.
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because articles written like that piss me off.. and when i get pissed.. i'm, like alot of other people not the most well spoken and calm person..
everyone who has opinions about another countries traditions should come here first and see what its really about..
people keep suggesting that we're big racists that wanna let black people know how we really feel about them... thats just wrong.. we don't experience zwarte pieten like that..
hell.. even black people in holland don't experience zwarte pieten like that...
it seems very wrong to wiki everything and then come to a conclusion you possible can't have just by reading opinions of people that aren't even from holland..

what about dressed up little people then? ofcourse elfs don't excist and thats why they use little people for elfs... but black slaves don't excist anymore either...
the whole discussion about what zwarte pieten en sinterklaas are in the eyes of people that just read history from 200 years back just seems a little odd..
in 1800 something something people also raped their wives and that was found to be normal if a woman didn't provide her husband with sex... that doesn't mean that refects the opinions that are hold about rape right now..

i'm aware how it 'comes off'... but to me that doesn't excuse people from calling everyone over here racists..
i tried to explain and give a point of view from our side... but when thats been ignored and ends up with the posting of offensive acticles.. i get a little uneasy
 
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TashaDutch said:
claiming that holland is non tolerant and 'puts black people in their place' is offensive and false..
yep, I agree, below line did irritate me a lot, that is just not true.

There are a number of subtle and unsubtle methods by which white Dutch people remind black Dutch people of their place
but lines like below does make me very proud

the Dutch are a relatively progressive people with much to recommend them: from the high level of volunteering and Amnesty International membership relative to other European countries to their pragmatism and absence of hysteria around subjects like cannabis, prostitution, same-sex marriage and euthanasia. And the Netherlands is also the originating country for the World Press exhibition. Then there are other humane and social indicators such as the unemployed being entitled to holiday money and time, and homelessness is one-fifth that of the States.
so, we in Holland we are progressive, liberal, tolerant, we think about minorities, and so on. Would it not fit in this great tradition of ours if we change this Sinterklaas tradition so that it will not offend others? Today's tradition is a fact, but we can make tomorrows tradition today.

for the others, every year there is more discussion, not much politicians are standing up against it, because the majority of the dutch people is deeply into this tradition, it's really massive in this 3 weeks every year. One politican who did stand up this year was André van Es, now from GroenLinks (GreenLeft), before that from PSP (the pacifist party). And now you may guess where vote did go in the first election I was allowed to vote …. 1986 … to PSP with André van Es as leader
 
Tasha, I understand why it upsets you. I really do understand that this is a deep intrinsic part of your culture. It seems you are most upset because you think that by calling this tradition racist we are calling all Dutch people racist. That isn't the case. I don't think that every American who enjoyed a minstrelsy show in the 19th century were raging racists or anything. We aren't denouncing all of Holland because of this tradition.

But it's really impossible to deny that having white people put on blackface and act as a character that is defined as a slave is a racist element to your tradition. In the interest of the fact that the Dutch are not a racist people, wouldn't it be worthwhile to make progressive changes?

If many people prefer and accept the reason that Piet is that color because of the chimney, why not support that as an official answer?
 
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jackie_O said:
If many people prefer and accept the reason that Piet is that color because of the chimney, why not support that as an official answer?

WE DO....I DO!
i've talked about this ALOT due to this thread.. and i have yet to meet the person who was raised with another explaination...
i was always taught that... and so is 99% of the population..
wikipedia and other websites are about history... facts... and where it MAY have come from...
this is not what we teach our children!
it's very disturbing that people think we teach our children that zwarte pieten are actually black slaves...

this is not reality... the chimney explaination is...
like i told before... politics have researched the possibilities... and failed..
we had pink/green/blue pieten for one year... everyone hated it... and i can imagine that wasn't only tested amongst white people...
 
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there is alot to be said from both sides if you look at it like that
the official story i know, is that saint nicolas saved a slave, and that slave decided to stay with him out of graditude..
yeah i dunno... some people claim that greek mythology is created by aliens.. so i never really know what to think if people claim to know the 'official' story
the way people receive it, is very personal.. with that thought in mind... it can never be that everyone sees zwarte piet porrayed like a slave
i'm telling you dutch people overall don't... so how can it be that he is portrayed like that when nobody sees it like that

its getting too confusing now... but all i could said is beeing said... we agree on alot... and disagree on alot as well..
thats it i guess...
 
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I don't think Dutch people are racist, and I don't think the current tradition is continued out of a sense of racism.

However, at the time Zwart Piet was reinvented as a black "servant", Holland was one of the largest slave-trading nations in the world, in their African colonies, and were one of the main suppliers of African slaves to the United States. Now, I'm not suggesting even remotely that the Dutch people are responsible for what their ancestors did almost 150 years ago (and centuries prior to that), but considering, and I can't speak to the truth of the assertion that Zwart Piet is regularly depicted as being a little dumb and speaking in broken Dutch, but you can't seriously be ignorant of the fact that there are people, of African/Dutch-colonial descent both in and out of Holland that would find this deeply offensive. Also, regardless of what you teach your kids about equality, you're sending mixed messages by showing stereotypical, comedic, slightly dumb generalisations about black people.

The chimney explanation is a convenient retcon, but then why as some pointed out, it's embarassing in supermarkets when kids point at a black person and yell 'Zwart Piet!!'. Are they perhaps under the impression that they're chimney sweeps?

The article I posted was written by a black man from the Netherlands. Is it even white residents place to determine what is or isn't offensive about Zwart Piet? I would suggest that people who aren't on the recieving end of the offense are not the ones who have a valid opinion about whether or not it's offensive.

On that note, if it's not offensive then explain this
In 2011, legislators in the former Dutch colony of Suriname stated that government-sanctioned celebrations involving Zwarte Piet were considered an insult to the "black part of Suriname's community." Efforts have begun in the Republic to prevent future governmental promotions of the character.

Again, I don't think Dutch people are racist at all, in fact I can think of dozens of countries who are far more racist. HOWEVER, as it seems to be historical fact that Santa's coal-skinned helper has evolved from pagan roots, to being a mischevious but well-meaning devil, to a slave and finally (apparently) a chimney sweep why the hell is it so inconcievable for him to undergo another evolution and actually appear as a chimney sweep.

For comparison, here's an actual chimney sweep from around the time Zwart Piet appeared:
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and here's the apparent Dutch interpretation:
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