Would it be ok to visit a model as a surprise?

[hollyreynolds]

I am dumbfounded by you people, I seriously don't even know what to say anymore. So if I was a fan of Selena Gomez and waiting outside a concert she was doing, so I could meet her that would be creepy? Because thousands of fans do it everyday. And celebrities normally enjoy meeting their fans this way. PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is my FRIEND

Selena Gomez charges people 1k plus for a meet and greet, and even then it's PRE ARRANGED and she is AWARE IT'S HAPPENING. You can't compare a CELEBRITY who has BODY GUARDS and is PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to entertain fans to a cam girl. 2 + 2 = 5!!!

I mean it seriously from the bottom of my heart, seek psychiatric help before you end up in jail, either in Russia or in America. You are a danger to others and need treatment to help your lack of judgement and complete disrespect for boundaries. Please.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

Camgirls are not mainstream celebrities. Being on cam doesn't = We're okay with being approached in real life

Most of us highly value our privacy/safety and don't appreciate being bothered in public, let alone have someone make a trip to us and show up as a suprise.

Sure, some girls DO meet up with fans at places THEY willingly agree to and plan, like at different adult industry conventions where she is equipped to deal with that interaction. I've seen mainstream porn stars seem happy if someone recognizes them randomly (again I'm sure if they suspected the person flew to them and waited for them outside work without them knowing this would end up horribly as well)
Comparing a camgirl to Selena Gomez shows how ridiculous you are and how little understanding of the industry you have.
You forcing youself into interaction with her with NO warning is plain selfish.

If you are SO sure you and her are going to embark on a grand day of friendship and her showing you around --then why are you worried about the police?? Because you know it's wrong.

Celebrity or not basic respect of a human's space is important. It's very disturbing that you can't see that.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Dude. Can you seriously not see that if 100% of the people you ask say that it's a bad idea, it might actually be a bad idea? You are LITERALLY INSANE, and yes, I do mean literally, if you can't see that this behavior is creepy and wrong. If you're not a troll, and i truly hope you are, you are horribly sick. I'm not kidding this time...you should really seek help because your judgement is terrible, and you could honestly be dangerous. And I know you might think that isn't true, but dude...you'd have no way of knowing that, would you? Because you're very, very mentally unwell.

But he's HER FRIEND! And that makes it all right.

 

[SaffronBurke]

PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is my FRIEND

Dude, how many people have said that they don't even like friends showing up unannounced? A fucking lot. I've had friends that had spare keys to my house, who I didn't like showing up unannounced, because that shit isn't cool. You need to let people know.

You know what a FRIEND would actually do? Plan a trip to the city, and say, "Hey, I'm going to be in your city on (date). Any chance we could meet up? I'd love to see some of your favorite hangouts!"

 

[dilligaf0]

I know a lot of people think this dude is a troll.

BUT six years (ish?) ago this exact thing happened. Dude from US showed up at gals front door as a surprise for her birthday in fucking Australia.
It did NOT go well.

No one likes surprises like this. Even the person doing the surprise is guaranteed to not like it after it happens.

How about instead of surprising her with a visit surprise her with all the money you were going to spend on your trip? It would be a better sign of friendship. lloooll

If you insist she's your friend then instead of traveling to see her in Russia, offer to pay for the trip and ask her to come see you. If it's a good idea, she'll come see you. If it's a bad idea, she won't and you won't have the legal / medical bills to pay.

 

[BobbyB]

I am dumbfounded by you people, I seriously don't even know what to say anymore. So if I was a fan of Selena Gomez and waiting outside a concert she was doing, so I could meet her that would be creepy? Because thousands of fans do it everyday. And celebrities normally enjoy meeting their fans this way. PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is my FRIEND

OK, if you think she is your friend I can make the following suggestion:

You tell her you came across a discussion on the internet where camgirls were freaking out about the thought that a customer from a camside suddenly shows up in real life. Now you ask your FRIEND what she would do when for example you suddenly show up .

Should give you are clear indication where this girl stands on this issue, maybe you are lucky, maybe it saves you a lot of problems....

 

[DrWangFei]

I am dumbfounded by you people, I seriously don't even know what to say anymore. So if I was a fan of Selena Gomez and waiting outside a concert she was doing, so I could meet her that would be creepy? Because thousands of fans do it everyday. And celebrities normally enjoy meeting their fans this way. PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is my FRIEND

You know what, since you're not listening to ACF or Reddit, just go ahead and do it. I don't think you're going to listen to anyone here anyway.

So, let's get your trip planned... do you have a Passport?

 

[n_i_c_u]

Poor guy. I feel sorry for how his brain is working. Something just isn't right.

 

[CasseLove]

Did you guys read his other reddit post? The one where he called her his girlfriend and wanted advice because she laughs for the other guys but not for him. So A. He thinks they're in a real relationship (in which people told him that no he isn't) and B. He can't even make her laugh (or fake laugh). She's literally the model that keeps the awful regular around because he tips her. Not because they're friends.

ETA @DrWangFei he doesn't need a passport because instead of coming back he'll live happily ever after in Russia... I mean probably not actually happy and probably in prison. But semantics.

 

[RebelleHart]

Has anyone found a way to contact her? We need to warn this girl. She could be in real danger!

 

[CasseLove]

Has anyone found a way to contact her? We need to warn this girl. She could be in real danger!

There's a Tista Ray currently online on flirt4free, idk if it's her or if she's Russian

 

[RebelleHart]

There's a Tista Ray currently online on flirt4free, idk if it's her or if she's Russian

Thanks! From there I was able to find her twitter and I tweeted her a link to this thread. I really hope she sees it

 

[ihearttistaray]

you all are horrible people

 

[RebelleHart]

I just went to her chat, loads of people were warning her and she said she will join ACF

 

[CasseLove]

you all are horrible people

Awe, that's what my momma always used to tell me too

 

[CasseLove]

Dude she's super cute, hell, I wanna go to Russia now and visit her

 

[Tron1981]

I REALLY hope this guy is trolling, but I'm going to treat it seriously anyway.

Okay, as someone who has been very close friends with a camgirl for over 5 years, have actually hung out with her, have talked to her both on and off cam, and knows more details about her than most, listen when I tell you DO NOT DO THIS!

DO. NOT. DO. THIS.

As close as we are, I would NEVER come to her home or place of employment unannouced. I would NEVER hunt down information on her without her knowing. Any information that I have on her was given WILLINGLY. If it weren't, that would be a severe breach of trust.

You may believe that just popping up out of the blue to her place of employment is cute and that she would be pleasantly surprised, but what you described is word-for-word every sex worker's worst nightmare.If she was the friend that you claim her to be, then you would ask her before you made a move like this, and accept whatever her answer is. But if you go through with this, then it's a good bet that Russian police will be the least of your worries. I'm sure that "disappearing" in a foreign country would not be the dream ending that you would expect. You asked everyone here what you should do, and they have unanimously told you not to do it. I suggest that you listen.

But, given some of your other statements here, you obviously plan on doing what you want anyway. So someone please warn this girl. You think that you're not some creepy stalker, but most creepy stalkers believe the exact same thing.

 

[Tron1981]

Did you guys read his other reddit post? The one where he called her his girlfriend and wanted advice because she laughs for the other guys but not for him. So A. He thinks they're in a real relationship (in which people told him that no he isn't) and B. He can't even make her laugh (or fake laugh). She's literally the model that keeps the awful regular around because he tips her. Not because they're friends.

ETA @DrWangFei he doesn't need a passport because instead of coming back he'll live happily ever after in Russia... I mean probably not actually happy and probably in prison. But semantics.

Honestly, a Russian prison would be the best case scenario for him. There's no telling who her employers might be, or what they might do if he comes within site of their building.

 

[Mila_]

I am dumbfounded by you people, I seriously don't even know what to say anymore. So if I was a fan of Selena Gomez and waiting outside a concert she was doing, so I could meet her that would be creepy? Because thousands of fans do it everyday. And celebrities normally enjoy meeting their fans this way. PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is

Since the caution area is out of work, this will be my attempt at appealing to a different part of your brain.

Some girls are okay with meeting a regular in real life, exchanging gifts and even taking him in a tour of the town. But most of the time she will do this as a prize for a game, for example, a date raffle. Date raffle tickets are usually expensive, ranging from 400 tokens to 2000 tokens a pop. The person who wins the raffle has usually been a regular for a very long time, and bought at least a dozen of these. What makes you think she will be okay meeting you for free?

If you had actually won a date raffle she would pick the date and the location, she would run a background check on you, and probably bring either security or a friend. By showing up unannounced you are not giving her the option to prepare.

Unlike Selena Gomez who had control over her circumstances, charged a fee for the concert ticket, chose the date and the venue, and brought security to the event, you are not giving the model an option to have any say or control on the situation. More importantly, none of Selena Gomez' fans have seen her vagina up close or believe they have a relationship with her.

 

[Always_Tim]

A few random thoughts. This is from someone who has several very close model friends and who has visited a model at her home in real life. So I do know a little bit about this sort of thing.

1. From what you've said it does not sound like you have an actual friendship. I'm sorry, but it really doesn't. Unless SHE makes an effort to get to know you outside of camsites, you're at most internet friends. And that can be great! Enjoy that! But it doesn't mean you're real life friends. I have a very strong feeling that you and she have very different ideas about what kind of friends you are.
2. If you don't feel bad about tracking down this model's location and personal information, there's something wrong. Seriously. (I did this once. I felt like shit for a long, long, long time afterwards. I'm convinced that any well-adjusted person will have the same reaction.)
3. If she didn't explicitly invite you to visit, then stay the hell away. It will NOT go well. Two very close model friends have given me their home addresses (so I can mail them stuff) a long time ago, but they both would have freaked out if I'd ever shown up randomly. I wouldn't go within 50 miles of either of their homes without permission in advance.
4. Both of those models have now invited me to visit them (and I have actually visited one of them now, twice) but it was only after we'd been good friends for years. I don't mean friends on MFC. I mean friends on Facebook, who'd exchanged phone numbers and home addresses, and spend ridiculous amounts of time talking to each other months and years after they'd stopped camming. Talked to each others' real life friends and even family members.
5. When I did visit the one model for the first time, it was six months after SHE had repeatedly invited me to visit. Even though she was only a few hours drive away, I waited that long (a) so I could be sure that she really meant it and wouldn't change her mind and (b) because I was super nervous about what would happen, whether she'd react badly to me actually showing up for real, etc. That day we met at a public place (a restaurant a few miles from her house, which she chose) and ate lunch and that was it. The key thing is that we talked about it and planned a lot ahead of time, even for a simple lunch meeting that she organized. That was hard enough for both of us. A surprise.. well, that would just not have been good. Just don't do it.

It really sounds like you are rushing things and getting far, far ahead of yourself. If you're really friends, let her make the first move. And don't be in a hurry. Real friendships take years. Especially when they start online. And given the sort of power dynamic involved here (and all the extra weird shit that goes along with having watched someone be naked and masturbating online) you should not be forcing anything. And a surprise visit is just extra bad, in so many ways. This is dangerous, dangerous territory you're walking into. (I mean that metaphorically. I don't know enough about Russia to speak literally, but I'm guessing it's literally true, too.)

Oh and flowers and chocolate for a friend? That doesn't seem like a friend thing.

 

[jemi]

I am dumbfounded by you people, I seriously don't even know what to say anymore. So if I was a fan of Selena Gomez and waiting outside a concert she was doing, so I could meet her that would be creepy? Because thousands of fans do it everyday. And celebrities normally enjoy meeting their fans this way. PLUS in my situation I am FRIENDS with her. I bet I could get her to show me around the city after she got off work. Because she is my FRIEND

Dude....are you actually friends with her or does she act friendly towards you because you always hang out in her room and tip her a good amount of money? Pretty significant difference and I'm gonna guess it's more of the latter. Most camgirls will be friendly towards people who tip but that doesn't mean she actually wants to be your friend during her off hours.

And if you're actually good friends (which I doubt) then it's still common courtesy to ask her beforehand if she'd like to hang out sometime. The fact that you're so against asking her about it ahead of time is a big red flag.

 

[Guy]

There's a Tista Ray currently online on flirt4free, idk if it's her or if she's Russian

He never mentioned the name of the model and there are many Russian camgirls. How did you know it was her? Just curious.

 

[CasseLove]

He never mentioned the name of the model and there are many Russian camgirls. How did you know it was her? Just curious.

His Username is I Heart Tista Ray... and when someone called out this post in her chatroom he was in her room to say the that the forum wasn't bad and people were just trying to twist his words. So I'm assuming it ended up being the correct woman and now she knows the specific member since he made himself known in chat (which was a different SN than on this site)

 

[ihearttistaray]

His Username is I Heart Tista Ray... and when someone called out this post in her chatroom he was in her room to say the that the forum wasn't bad and people were just trying to twist his words. So I'm assuming it ended up being the correct woman and now she knows the specific member since he made himself known in chat (which was a different SN than on this site)

Yeah and it wasn't that big of deal to her. She said I could visit her, but not as a surprise. So you attempt to make her hate me failed. You didn't believe me when I said we were friends



We went on to talk about it. It's still a few months off but it might happen and she knows about it now. So you all can back off

 

[RebelleHart]

Yeah and it wasn't that big of deal to her. She said I could visit her, but not as a surprise. So you attempt to make her hate me failed. You didn't believe me when I said we were friends

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We went on to talk about it. It's still a few months off but it might happen and she knows about it now. So you all can back off

I wasn't trying to make her hate you. I was worried for her safety. Big difference.

That said, if she still wants to meet you after this, then that is her choice and we will all respect that because all we ever wanted was for her to have a choice in this.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Yeah and it wasn't that big of deal to her. She said I could visit her, but not as a surprise. So you attempt to make her hate me failed. You didn't believe me when I said we were friends

We went on to talk about it. It's still a few months off but it might happen and she knows about it now. So you all can back off

Do you really believe anyone wanted to make her hate you? Or were people trying to let you, and her, know that what Tista Ray herself described as a "bad idea" had taken root in your imagination?

 

[JickyJuly]

*squints*
I totally thought his name was IHeartIsAstray. Like his internet heart had gotten lost. Dude busted himself with his username. Good grief.

 

[RebelleHart]

*squints*
I totally thought his name was IHeartIsAstray. Like his internet heart had gotten lost. Dude busted himself with his username. Good grief.

Detective Rebelle is always on the case!! With an assist from detective @CasseLove (I could only find pirated vids of her, Casse found her camsite) we were able to put this baby to bed.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Congratulations, you did what you should have done in the first place and ask her. But as you saw her initial reaction when we told her, it was a shock and it scared her.

 

[JickyJuly]

OP, I think it might be a good idea to take a class at a community college on women's studies or join a club that has a high number of ladies. You could benefit a lot and gain a better sense of women. You need to be around women who do not benefit financially from agreeing with you or being sweet to you. You seem very resistant to the idea that having a man waiting outside of your job uninvited and unannounced would be frightening to a woman.